227 in 99 overs (WI v PAK) or 227 in 20 overs (KXIP v MI) - What would you rather watch?

[big_gamer007]

KXIP will score close to 227 so wanted to know everyone's opinion if you were forced to watch either one of these matches which one would you chose?

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Neither. Both equally pathetic.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

Can't really compare the two, tests are a whole different ball game compared to T20 (that too, which isn't an international match).

 

[Abdul]

227/3 (99.0 ov).

 

[Arsalan Pro]

227 in 99 overs is better than watching IPL.

 

[SaadAliG]

Watch hong kong super sixers, lady!

 

[big_gamer007]

227 in 99 overs is better than watching IPL.

Can't really compare the two, tests are a whole different ball game compared to T20 (that too, which isn't an international match).

Of course both are different formats everyone knows that, question was which one would you rather watch? Assuming it was a T20I featuring Pakistan then?

 

[Kianig89]

Ifvi have to pay $$ then defo 227 in 20 overs #fact

 

[big_gamer007]

Watch hong kong super sixers, lady!

Used to watch it as a kid was pretty fun, actually most fun matches were those 5-6 overs each cricket matches featuring legends from WI, Australia etc

 

[Big Mac]

Of course both are different formats everyone knows that, question was which one would you rather watch? Assuming it was a T20I featuring Pakistan then?

I'll watch an India v England test match over watching Pakistan v anybody T20I, provided that both are available just as easily as the other.

Answer might change if the T20 is on TV and I have to mess around looking for crappy streams for the test.

 

[90MPH]

I'd rather watch paint drying on a wall than mindless nonsensical 20/20 league cricket played on a small ground.

 

[Abdul]

Ifvi have to pay $$ then defo 227 in 20 overs #fact

Don't label your opinion as a fact. I'd pay to watch Test cricket instead.

 

[JaDed]

Watch hong kong super sixers, lady!

Used to love those,remember Robin Singh or someone was Indian captain once.Good fun.

 

[Zak_Fan]

I don't like sitting miserable for hours. IPL match any day.

 

[Zak_Fan]

Don't label your opinion as a fact. I'd pay to watch Test cricket instead.

Quality Test Cricket is one of the best things about the sport. This Pak Vs WI match however is a nightmare. You are playing a sub-par team, fighting to win a series in WI and still no intent whatsoever. Couldn't be a worse advertisement for any form of Cricket.

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

227/3 in 99 overs in test obviously.

Won't ever see mickey mouse league match of 400/0 in 20 overs.

 

[MRSN]

watch anything else than go through the torture of 10 runs in 10 overs. This is one of the most boring test batting ever played for Pakistan.

 

[big_gamer007]

I'll watch an India v England test match over watching Pakistan v anybody T20I, provided that both are available just as easily as the other.

Answer might change if the T20 is on TV and I have to mess around looking for crappy streams for the test.

Mate question is not about teams question is would you rather watch 227/99 or 230/20? if you are forced at a gunpoint and have to pay your own money then which one of these would you chose?

 

[MRSN]

Quality Test Cricket is one of the best things about the sport. This Pak Vs WI match however is a nightmare. You are playing a sub-par team, fighting to win a series in WI and still no intent whatsoever. Couldn't be a worse advertisement for any form of Cricket.

to add their pathetic fielding dropping sitters. last day they dropped Baber, today they dropped Misbah. In the first game as well there were 5-7 catches missed. I'm not ready to rate this Pakistan team at all. Look at our experience vs their. I just can't wait for these two legends to retire so a fresh era can be started.

 

[big_gamer007]

Used to love those,remember Robin Singh or someone was Indian captain once.Good fun.

It was awesome mate, Pity India sucked at HK sixes also back in the day..

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

227 in 99 overs is better than watching IPL.

227 in 99 overs is better than watching IPL,PSL,BPL,BBL,CPL etc. Mickey Mouse league match.

 

[Big Mac]

Mate question is not about teams question is would you rather watch 227/99 or 230/20? if you are forced at a gunpoint and have to pay your own money then which one of these would you chose?

I'll watch whichever one is the test match.

 

[hitthestump]

Both are equally terrible to watch and for cricket as a whole. At least the tuk tuk era is ending now...while the IPL will constantly push the barrier between bat and ball wider and wider until they finally decide they've milked cricket for enough money that they can let it die in peace.

 

[Friend786]

Why do people tend to remember test matches rather than twenty20 matches which is fast pace and much more exciting ??

 

[zulfiqar]

If Pakistan was involved in both, I'd prefer the T20. I love the test format, but not enough to actually watch a full day's play. I follow a bit live, a bit on cricinfo, and a bit through highlights.

But if it was actually the two matches referenced, I'd prefer to watch any 20 over segment of the test match than the other match cited.

 

[Smbhayi]

how many guys watches test completely? they may watch here and there, that's all.

to me, it's t20 coz it cost much less time.

 

[shane]

They are both boring in their own ways. I would rather watch an even contest with intent on both sides.

 

[shane]

There is a very decent county match on Sky sports 2. I have decided to watch that.

 

[big_gamer007]

Funny thing is the way Mumbai are playing they might actually go on and chase 230.. IPL batting at its best

 

[MajidBhuta-AamirFan]

Can't really compare the two, tests are a whole different ball game compared to T20 (that too, which isn't an international match).

Yes, it is only different game for Pakistan, which other team now a days playing this type of nonsense test cricket.. Name one?

I am tired of watching Pakistan's cricket...... very tired and sick... very tired and sick...

 

[MMHS]

Neither. Both equally pathetic.

No - that is a slog feast & the game is 90% decided after 10 overs of 40. One out of 10 matches, chasing side will win such match. If you are to watch slog feast, you can go to nets & see batsmen banging around.

This Test will end as an epic, unless it's spoiled by rain - all 3 results are possible, even till last day. However, yes what Misbah/Azhar/YK did isn't the way Test cricket is played - it wasn't the case even 100 years back that two set batsmen got a 100+ overs tiered attack & decided to troll around at 1.5 rate. PAK actually, got into a great position & then spoiled it themselves.

 

[MMHS]

Just few minutes back, Rohit managed to lob a half tracker to mid wicket's throat, on a 55 metre ground - if that is cricket, then I must have to stop watching it & move to Baseball.

 

[Bilal7]

I'd watch test cricket over an IPL game any time. Of course, this is considering both teams have players I like/dislike equally.

 

[ocfan]

Test match over any t20 match. Fours and Sixes on every other ball makes it boring for me.

 

[MenInG]

Apples, Oranges.

 

[Haz95]

A good bat vs ball game. A game where good bowlers reap rewards and ditto with batsmen. A game where you don't see 6 120kph deliveries each dispatched for 6 or a bowler of colin de whatever level take a 6fer on debut on a green mamba.

It's not much to ask for however both mentioned games are everything one would not want to see.

 

[Adil_94]

i prefer a day of high quality Test cricket where the game ebbs and flows than T20. But this Test has been hard to watch due to the low quality on offer between one average side and one side playing below its normal level.

 

[captain crook]

High quality test match over crappy T20 league

 

[jusarrived]

Just few minutes back, Rohit managed to lob a half tracker to mid wicket's throat, on a 55 metre ground - if that is cricket, then I must have to stop watching it & move to Baseball.

OK a Poor ball and batsmen mistimed a shot and gets out ? This never happened in the cricket you understand ?

 

[jusarrived]

No - that is a slog feast & the game is 90% decided after 10 overs of 40. One out of 10 matches, chasing side will win such match. If you are to watch slog feast, you can go to nets & see batsmen banging around.

This Test will end as an epic, unless it's spoiled by rain - all 3 results are possible, even till last day. However, yes what Misbah/Azhar/YK did isn't the way Test cricket is played - it wasn't the case even 100 years back that two set batsmen got a 100+ overs tiered attack & decided to troll around at 1.5 rate. PAK actually, got into a great position & then spoiled it themselves.

A between Namibia and Singapore can end as an epic , thats got nothing to do with the format of the game of quality of cricket .

 

[jusarrived]

Personally I would watch a Test match involving top teams over a T20 game . Otherwise prefer a T20 game ,

 

[big_gamer007]

High quality test match over crappy T20 league

Question wasn't between choosing a "high" quality test match it was between choosing the current test batting on display by Pakistan..

 

[jusarrived]

Just few minutes back, Rohit managed to lob a half tracker to mid wicket's throat, on a 55 metre ground - if that is cricket, then I must have to stop watching it & move to Baseball.

Just a few minutes back , if you missed it !! Great dismissal , its Test cricket after all

Chase to Misbah-ul-Haq, OUT, oh, dear! Misbah has thrown it away here. Goes for another big, extravagant stroke. Gets down very early for a reverse sweep, telegraphs it and Dowrich does well to adjust his line late. Fires it down the leg side, making it the wrong line to play the reverse. Ball takes the top-edge and is caught easily by Dowrich. They make a confident appeal and it is given by umpire Illingworth. Good, healthy edge
Misbah-ul-Haq c †Dowrich b Chase 59 (148b 6x4 1x6) SR: 39.86

 

[big_gamer007]

Just a few minutes back , if you missed it !! Great dismissal , its Test cricket after all

Chase to Misbah-ul-Haq, OUT, oh, dear! Misbah has thrown it away here. Goes for another big, extravagant stroke. Gets down very early for a reverse sweep, telegraphs it and Dowrich does well to adjust his line late. Fires it down the leg side, making it the wrong line to play the reverse. Ball takes the top-edge and is caught easily by Dowrich. They make a confident appeal and it is given by umpire Illingworth. Good, healthy edge
Misbah-ul-Haq c †Dowrich b Chase 59 (148b 6x4 1x6) SR: 39.86

But but but that's test cricket surely it's quality.. #PPlogic

 

[Hasan123]

Both are the extremes of cricket. When is a slog fest , the other is a bore fest. What you want is a contest between bat and ball. Okay maybe in t20s it's all about batting but you don't want a pitch like the Mumbai pitch today.

If I had a choice I would probably watch test cricket but I don't mind watch IPL games or t20 games in general.

 

[Bhaijaan]

If this test scorecard involved some top players on both sides, i won't mind but this was an utterly hopeless batting effort against a below average bowling, involving two of poorest and least attractive test teams in cricket currently hence the value goes down considerably for me and i don't think it is justified to use test format's established greatness to defend poor cricket like this.

 

[idrizzy]

You're dealing with apples and oranges. You can't compare either. They're more or less different sports.

 

[coy0607]

Both are the extremes of cricket. When is a slog fest , the other is a bore fest. What you want is a contest between bat and ball. Okay maybe in t20s it's all about batting but you don't want a pitch like the Mumbai pitch today.

If I had a choice I would probably watch test cricket but I don't mind watch IPL games or t20 games in general.

I agree that both are extremes, but cricket in general is moving towards the direction of faster play... 220 in 20 overs in over the top, but it follows the general trend of cricket. 220 in 100 overs is asinine in 2017

this kinda cricket by Pakistan is precisely the reason Pakistani's are watching test matches at a historic low, not because of the development of T20

 

[MMHS]

Just a few minutes back , if you missed it !! Great dismissal , its Test cricket after all

Chase to Misbah-ul-Haq, OUT, oh, dear! Misbah has thrown it away here. Goes for another big, extravagant stroke. Gets down very early for a reverse sweep, telegraphs it and Dowrich does well to adjust his line late. Fires it down the leg side, making it the wrong line to play the reverse. Ball takes the top-edge and is caught easily by Dowrich. They make a confident appeal and it is given by umpire Illingworth. Good, healthy edge
Misbah-ul-Haq c †Dowrich b Chase 59 (148b 6x4 1x6) SR: 39.86

Thanks for the fantastic explanation - it perfectly explain the difference between "working out" a batsman & "forcing out" a batsman with score board pressure.

 

[Hasan123]

I agree that both are extremes, but cricket in general is moving towards the direction of faster play... 220 in 20 overs in over the top, but it follows the general trend of cricket. 220 in 100 overs is asinine in 2017

this kinda cricket by Pakistan is precisely the reason Pakistani's are watching test matches at a historic low, not because of the development of T20

No I understand cricket is going in a different direction. I don't mind a positive and more attacking game. The problem is when bowlers just run and batsmen hit them for 6 on those flat roads.

Pakistan's current strategy is also influenced by pitches back in domestic cricket. They don't encourage stroke making at all.

 

[BD-fan]

I'd rather watch paint drying on a wall than mindless nonsensical 20/20 league cricket played on a small ground.

I agree.

Let us discuss paint drying. If the brush/roller is dipped heavily in the paint and the brush/roller is used for few strokes (up and down) then there is distinct paint/roller mark. The heavy paint would have a deeper color. It takes longer to dry.

Do you use tape on the edges? How long before you take the tape out?

 

[jusarrived]

Thanks for the fantastic explanation - it perfectly explain the difference between "working out" a batsman & "forcing out" a batsman with score board pressure.

Working out a batsmen , really ? Misbah was tonking him around and hit the last ball for a six . The batsmen got himself out trying to reverse weep , I dont know in which world its called working out a batsmen

 

[Pollack]

Why do people tend to remember test matches rather than twenty20 matches which is fast pace and much more exciting ??

Because of the excruciating pain and torture test matches inflict on the audiences. Obviously intense Pain is more easily remembered than happiness. )

 

[Last Monetarist]

The test match every time. I can understand why some would find that weird but I'd be more comfortable watching a batsman block a hundred deliveries than suffer a slog-fest between two domestic Indian teams.

 

[CricFan2012]

Hahaha nobody in the right mind would spend hours watching that kind of a boring test match, especially one heading towards a draw. Anyone up there choosing tests over the t20 format in this scenario is obviously trying really hard to look like a "true" cricket fan.

The IPL match in this scenario hands down would be far more entertaining to watch. Colour, glamour, a result at least for crying out loud. Don't get me wrong but a test battle between more exciting sides like South Africa and Australia would be more entertaining.

 

[MMHS]

Working out a batsmen , really ? Misbah was tonking him around and hit the last ball for a six . The batsmen got himself out trying to reverse weep , I dont know in which world its called working out a batsmen

I took couple of days to answer your post - probably was worth waiting .......................

 

[Hasan123]

Test cricket Zindabad

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Lmao this thread backfired. This test match is gonna be remembered for ages. The circus game won't even be remembered by the people who took part

 

[MMHS]

No - that is a slog feast & the game is 90% decided after 10 overs of 40. One out of 10 matches, chasing side will win such match. If you are to watch slog feast, you can go to nets & see batsmen banging around.

This Test will end as an epic, unless it's spoiled by rain - all 3 results are possible, even till last day. However, yes what Misbah/Azhar/YK did isn't the way Test cricket is played - it wasn't the case even 100 years back that two set batsmen got a 100+ overs tiered attack & decided to troll around at 1.5 rate. PAK actually, got into a great position & then spoiled it themselves.

I could smell that from the way the game was shaping ........

 

[Hasan123]

Lmao this thread backfired. This test match is gonna be remembered for ages. The circus game won't even be remembered by the people who took part

Exactly. Even IPL cheerleaders won't remember the game in a year or two.

 

[msb314]

Test over IPL all day every day!!!!!

 

[last_knight]

Sometimes down here at PP, I wonder what if LOTR were a routine 110 minutes Hollywood Movie. Or Shakespeare were a short story writer.

Test Cricket is like a novel and T20 is like a short story. How many classical short stories (vice versa) we find resounding in pages of history?

As someone rightly said, 227(20) will not echo. 227(99) will. For a very long time.

 

[Junaids]

Well, one of them I will remember in thirty years, and the other I have already forgotten.

Test cricket. Worth the wait!

 

[Major]

Well, one of them I will remember in thirty years, and the other I have already forgotten.

Test cricket. Worth the wait!

Hmmm.

But you were all over mr poor captain and all.

Now its worth the wait.... hmmm

 

[Junaids]

Hmmm.

But you were all over mr poor captain and all.

Now its worth the wait.... hmmm

It was in part compelling viewing BECAUSE Misbah declared 45 minutes too late.

He didn't make the match any safer, but he gave the West Indies a chance to survive, and they almost did.

Often it is this kind of rank bad captaincy that makes a game a better spectacle.

For a smart guy, Misbah can always be relied upon to make some daft choices. Exhibit A is the late declaration, Exhibit B is repeatedly using DRS for edges given as Not Out, even though there was no Hot Spot or Snicko.

But Misbah's poor judgment often makes for a better spectacle!

 

[Square Drive]

Ofcourse the KXPI game! So thrilling!! If only Test cricket could match that [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] )

 

[Mamoon]

Apart from Pakistani fans, no one will remember this match either. Pakistan vs West Indies doesn't turn heads and doesn't attract global attention.

Test cricket will continue to have limited scope. Those who do not enjoy 5 day cricket will not warm up to it because of close encounters like these. It is a reality that people have to accept, and not get sucked into meaningless comparisons with T20 cricket/IPL, which is clearly the future of global cricket. Every time there is a good Test match or an exciting finish to a somber Test match, people immediately start comparing it to T20 cricket and vice versa, as this thread shows.

There is place for all three formats in this game and it is not going to change. You can enjoy all formats without disparaging the other, because all have their pros and cons.

 

[Junaids]

Apart from Pakistani fans, no one will remember this match either. Pakistan vs West Indies doesn't turn heads and doesn't attract global attention.

Test cricket will continue to have limited scope. Those who do not enjoy 5 day cricket will not warm up to it because of close encounters like these. It is a reality that people have to accept, and not get sucked into meaningless comparisons with T20 cricket/IPL, which is clearly the future of global cricket. Every time there is a good Test match or an exciting finish to a somber Test match, people immediately start comparing it to T20 cricket and vice versa, as this thread shows.

There is place for all three formats in this game and it is not going to change. You can enjoy all formats without disparaging the other, because all have their pros and cons.

By the end the ground had filled up and people were watching from the street.

Dominica is not a traditional West Indian cricket island, and this finish will have strengthened the game there enormously.

 

[Friend786]

Because of the excruciating pain and torture test matches inflict on the audiences. Obviously intense Pain is more easily remembered than happiness. )

Joy of winning a test match is 1000 times better and much more memorable than any twenty20 match

 

[Yossarian]

KXIP will score close to 227 so wanted to know everyone's opinion if you were forced to watch either one of these matches which one would you chose?

Depends whether you prefer a McDonald's take-away or a 5 course meal at a decent restaurant with all the trimmings. Metaphorically speaking that is.

 

[big_gamer007]

Exactly. Even IPL cheerleaders won't remember the game in a year or two.

Lmao this thread backfired. This test match is gonna be remembered for ages. The circus game won't even be remembered by the people who took part

People misunderstand everything and start comparing tests with T20.. The question in OP was simple would you watch a 227/99 innings or 227/20 innings not the entire test match or not the entire T20 match just the innings..

 

[srh]

How can any sane person compare such an epic test match with a domestic T20 game times billions

 

[Major]

Apart from Pakistani fans, no one will remember this match either. Pakistan vs West Indies doesn't turn heads and doesn't attract global attention.

Test cricket will continue to have limited scope. Those who do not enjoy 5 day cricket will not warm up to it because of close encounters like these. It is a reality that people have to accept, and not get sucked into meaningless comparisons with T20 cricket/IPL, which is clearly the future of global cricket. Every time there is a good Test match or an exciting finish to a somber Test match, people immediately start comparing it to T20 cricket and vice versa, as this thread shows.

There is place for all three formats in this game and it is not going to change. You can enjoy all formats without disparaging the other, because all have their pros and cons.

Fazeer mohammad will disagree with you

 

[the Great Khan]

which one would I rather watch? I would rather watch anything with Pakistan in it then some domestic Indian tournament. I mean I dont even watch indian international fixtures unless they are being humiliated which is just fun to watch. Why would I then waste my time on their domestic tournaments?

on serious note Test cricket is the pinnacle for me and therefore it will take precedence!

 

[Bilal7]

A hundred T20s cannot come close to capturing the intensity, excitement and passion that that one session of test cricket exhibited. Test cricket is unlike any other sport today and I am glad that I have an alternative to 90 minute sporting contests.

 

[jusarrived]

I took couple of days to answer your post - probably was worth waiting .......................

I dont understand what exactly we learnt here ?

 

[MMHS]

I dont understand what exactly we learnt here ?

"How tough it's to get a batsman out, if he is not forced into a mad rush"

 

[jusarrived]

"How tough it's to get a batsman out, if he is not forced into a mad rush"

I even more confused now .
When exactly where we debating on this point . Assuming we did , how does the Misbah dismissal in the first innings and Rohit dismissal in the T20 match prove your point ?

Both batsmen gifted their wicket to the bowler , infact I would argue Rohit had a a valid reason to hit out while Misbah played much much poorer shot for a format which does not demand such shots in any situation . So based on these dismissals , hows the quality of cricket in Test match superior ?

 

[MMHS]

I even more confused now .
When exactly where we debating on this point . Assuming we did , how does the Misbah dismissal in the first innings and Rohit dismissal in the T20 match prove your point ?

Both batsmen gifted their wicket to the bowler , infact I would argue Rohit had a a valid reason to hit out while Misbah played much much poorer shot for a format which does not demand such shots in any situation . So based on these dismissals , hows the quality of cricket in Test match superior ?

It's not a point of debate, rather why apparently a T20 (or LO) game looks more entertaining.

Rohit played a poor shot on a rank long hop, because T20 demands constant slogging, therefore often batsmen miss out bad balls, or other way gets out to a ball that shouldn't have been taking a wicket. My point was exactly this - it's like a boxer going all-out opening his guard, that might be entertaining, but the quality is not there. You brought Misbah in same context which isn't comparable - because Misbah played a poor shot to a ball, a better batsman could have played conventionally. He was forced to that shot for his limitation of conventional scoring - Test cricket didn't ask him to score 1 of 51; but T20 did ask Rohit to go after everything, before adjusting to the pace & bounce of the wicket, getting his eye set & his feet moving properly.

The premise of this thread is about entertainment of the game (what one'll watch) - if we consider only slogging fours & sixes are the entertainment of cricket, then any T20 has to be on top - it's action pack 3 hours. However, cricket's entertainment value is not in hitting power only - if a T20 ends like 89 (19'2) & 91/8 (19'5) - that's also extremely absorbing, instead of a match that gives 256/9 & 170 (14'4) - on entertainment value, it's outstanding, if you are to watch a game similar to baseball - lots of hitting & lobbed catches on line.

A 5 day match will never be such action pack - it doesn't happen in Golf or Snooker or Chess either; but, it provides better all-round quality (in terms of batting & bowling) & many of those ends in a thriller, because teams sunk up to nose can fight out a draw in Test, which in LO game, these days most cases doesn't happen, therefore only interest remains is stats - who is counting what in their stats.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

Asking this question here is useless. People who take the time and effort to create an account in a forum to discuss cricket clearly love the game and invest enough time to enjoy it in its true format.

I mean there is no doubt that test cricket is far more satisfying to watch when you see a fightback like WI did but truth is, if cricket needs money, it needs more eyeballs and only t20 will attract more eyeballs. So purists who absolutely hate T20, will have no choice but to keep sulking because that is the way forward.