30th ODI ton for Virat Kohli - Equals Ricky Ponting

[Tusker]

So where do Ind-Pak bilateral matches come in the ladder then as per your esteemed understanding? Suddenly an Ind-Afg WC game has more pressure than an Ind-Pak bilateral? You better pick a side and stick to it pal because you're dismantling your own argument here.

I dont have stupid hierarchies like you do lol . Iam merely humoring you. There are no freebies in Intl cricket.

Top teams like India are prime targets for the underdog teams so that they can get attention by beating them. Ask Pakistanis and Eng and our 2007 wc team

You're doing it in this entire thread trying to discredit that 17.75 figure as if it means nothing

Do you realize that if I had excluded those matches Kohli's overall avg goes above 60 ?. So go ahead and show me te post were I have posted such a stat that is missing those 5 matches.

 

[Tusker]

It's because (and this might shock you), playing against teams having better cricket players is actually harder. Anomalies are there in everything in life, that's not the norm. You sound like that dude I encountered in the Kapil Dev thread lecturing me on how Afridi's bowling record against HK and PNG is as important as his record against other teams and hence he is a great all rounder .

What anomalies genius? Almost every WC and ct has these upsets and we have actually exited a WC due to this reason. As have Pak and Eng. These happen regularly. Your ignorance on this matter is not surprising at all.

 

[Tusker]

[MENTION=145164]Proactive_[/MENTION] respond to this post without diverting attention to other categories.

Well if it isn't worthless then explain how it means anything in context of batting under pressure . Keep in mind that there are other matches where pressure is much higher and yet Kohli has a much better avg than 17.75. So for the millionth time what inference are you drawing from those 5 matches?

And btw you did say that higher the pressure more his avg falls and 17.75 is the lowest avg in that list therefore it implies that according to you these 5 matches had the highest pressure.

 

[Tusker]

It's because (and this might shock you), playing against teams having better cricket players is actually harder. Anomalies are there in everything in life, that's not the norm. You sound like that dude I encountered in the Kapil Dev thread lecturing me on how Afridi's bowling record against HK and PNG is as important as his record against other teams and hence he is a great all rounder .

What anomalies genius? Almost every WC and ct has these upsets and we have actually exited a WC due to this reason. As have Pak and Eng. These happen regularly. Your ignorance on this matter is not surprising at all.

BTW here is your own posts from the past in a different thread on the topic of how EVERY Match is important in Multination tournaments

He can average 99.94 in ODIs and it would mean nothing if he keeps failing as spectacularly as he did in the CT 17 Final and the WC 15 SF. This is the era where 95% of ODI cricket consists of meaningless bilaterals, succeeding in them means close to nothing. I'll take Dhawan over Kohli as an ODI batsman ANYDAY.

In past, 95% of bilateral ODIs were meaningful

Without a doubt. Many of the ODIs being played in the last millennium were a part of multi team tournaments whether it be Triangular, Quadrangular or sometimes even 5 team tournaments. Every match carried a lot more meaning with the NRR in play as well. ODI cricket was actually exciting. You had players playing one tournament final or the others every three months. ODI cricket actually had prestige outside of the ICC tournaments. These vanilla bilaterals that have taken over the scene in the past decade or so have destroyed ODI cricket completely. Add to that the fact that 325 seems to be a par score these days makes things even more excruciating. Even Aus. for some reason has stopped hosting the traditional triangular series. I'd rather watch paint dry than watch any of the India-SL or the upcoming India-Aus ODIs to be played on 375 phattas. Colossal waste of time.

INB4 you try to twist and turn and deflect and shift goal posts to try and pretend that EVERY Match doesnt actually mean EVERY Match ... pretty sure that is incoming very soon

 

[Proactive_]

BTW here is your own posts from the past in a different thread on the topic of how EVERY Match is important in Multination tournaments









INB4 you try to twist and turn and deflect and shift goal posts to try and pretend that EVERY Match doesnt actually mean EVERY Match ... pretty sure that is incoming very soon

It's funny because you're YET to explain Kohli's drops in averages from 60s in bilaterals to the 20s in Tournament Finals.

So, until and unless you finally gather the fortitude to answer WHY does he average barely 20s in the Tournament Finals with a decent sample size if he's such a great batsman, not to mention the fact that his averages fall drastically against top opposition in Multi Team Tournaments as well, there's no reason for me to keep entertaining your never ending deflationary tactics.

 

[Tusker]

It's funny because you're YET to explain Kohli's drops in averages from 60s in bilaterals to the 20s in Tournament Finals.

So, until and unless you finally gather the fortitude to answer WHY does he average barely 20s in the Tournament Finals with a decent sample size if he's such a great batsman, not to mention the fact that his averages fall drastically against top opposition in Multi Team Tournaments as well, there's no reason for me to keep entertaining your never ending deflationary tactics.

Meaningless stats don't deserve an answer and I just proved that using your own posts why they are meaningless. The only thing that they deserve is ridicule. Not surprised to see you run away from yet another thread when your agenda has been exposed and laid thread bare.

So just as nobody gives a flying fudge about Sobers record in NZ nobody gives a damn about these cute filters that you come up with and I extracted that acknowledgement straight out of you.

 

[Proactive_]

Meaningless stats don't deserve an answer and I just proved that using your own posts why they are meaningless. The only thing that they deserve is ridicule. Not surprised to see you run away from yet another thread when your agenda has been exposed and laid thread bare.

So just as nobody gives a flying fudge about Sobers record in NZ nobody gives a damn about these cute filters that you come up with and I extracted that acknowledgement straight out of you.

So averaging in the 20s in Tournament Finals is meaningless? You really are one of a kind.

 

[Tusker]

So averaging in the 20s in Tournament Finals is meaningless? You really are one of a kind.

Remember your own words about multinational tournaments - "Every match carried a lot more meaning with the NRR in play as well."

 

[Tusker]

So averaging in the 20s in Tournament Finals is meaningless? You really are one of a kind.

Anyhow since you will most likely not touching this thread ever again ... let me conclude by saying this :

it is quite astonishing that you are sooo stubborn about Kohli's "batting under pressure" qualities especially when he is scoring runs by the truckloads in both ODIs and Testmatches on difficult pitches against some of the best bowler even while you have been arguing over the past year that he is overrated !.

Having extensively argued with you for more than a year - It appears that unless and until he scores a hundred in a WC Final , CT final, chase down the highest 4th inngs target on the greenest of tracks (and all must be overseas lol) you will continue this pathetic nonsense. And the worst thing is these achievement wont matter if we lose. You will still call that as a failure. You are oblivious to the simple fact that its a team game.

What that tells me is that you have highly unrealistic ( more like idiotic and pedantic ) expectations and/or that you don't just understand simple things like one cannot make any sense whatsoever from few matches played vs SL in these supposedly very important Tournament finals. Don't take my word for it but nobody even remembers the name of the Trophy we won/lost in that series. Just like how nobody even gives a flying fudge about Sobers in NZ , Lara/Ponting in India, Kapil in Eng or Dennis Lillee in Asia and so on and so forth.

But since you are soooo hopelessly enamored and have an OCD about "pressure matches" go have a look at Kohli's record vs Pakistan in you favorite format: Multination tournaments. His avg is second to none. And these are some of the most intense matches that an Indian cricketer can hope to play :

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...rnament_type=3;tournament_type=5;type=batting

But then again I totally expect a idiotic and puerile response based on his failure in CT final. As I said unless and until Kohli scores a 100 in every match including the CT final ( and the team MUST win) you will keep harping about this. So the problem here is nothing to do with Kohli the batsman. The problem is somewhere within the space between your ears.

 

[Bhaijaan]

only at the age of 28. will certainly end up with 60+

easily the goat odi batsman in the making. his record is freakish.

king

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Most ODI 100s:<br>S Tendulkar 49 (452 innings)<br>Virat Kohli 30 (186 innings)<br>R Ponting 30 (365 innings)<br>S Jayasuriya 28 (433 innings)<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/904395269537751045">September 3, 2017</a></blockquote>
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He's absolutely raced from 30 to 40.

10 centuries within 17 months. Phenomenal run this from King Kohli.

 

[Aman]

Wow, he's not too far off Tendulkar.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Ponting 30 centuries
Kohli 40 centuries

He already is a giant compared to Ponting in ODIs. It's mind boggling.

 

[shah_1]

He will be the greatest ODI batsman when he retires.

 

[Haroon786]

Defo top 3 GOAT with SRT and Viv.

 

[Realromeo]

So he added 10 ODI Tons in year and a half

 

[Bhaijaan]

So he added 10 ODI Tons in year and a half

Last 10 tons in 25 matches.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Defo top 3 GOAT with SRT and Viv.

Sounds alright.

In no particular order, Tendulkar, Viv, Kohli are 3 greatest ODI batsmen by far followed by Dhoni

 

[Zhasan]

Centuries scored in modern day ODI's (flat pitches, crappy bowling standard, superior bats, small boundaries) ought to be equal to a quarter of previous eras.

 

[Rahul1]

Centuries scored in modern day ODI's (flat pitches, crappy bowling standard, superior bats, small boundaries) ought to be equal to a quarter of previous eras.

Okay. Bumrah is miles better than Wasim and Waqar.

 

[Mahee]

Okay. Bumrah is miles better than Wasim and Waqar.

haha good one

 

[Proactive_]

[MENTION=134300]Tusker[/MENTION]

Sup buddy..

 

[uncanny]

When Streams not buffering & Pakpassion not slow, that's how I know India is losing, no need to following scoreboard. LOL. I've been noticing this pattern a lot!

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Oh dear )

PP in full trolling mode.

 

[Gullycricket]

When Streams not buffering & Pakpassion not slow, that's how I know India is losing, no need to following scoreboard. LOL. I've been noticing this pattern a lot!

By number of pages i judge....