83 - Ranveer Singh stars as Kapil Dev in film based upon India's 1983 World Cup win

[subbu]

Thats other thing that a movie was half fake
Mostly that girlfriend scene where he promises her that they will meet someday and before she dies when in reality they were already married and sakshi is dhoni's second wife.
I dont watch fake movies.
83 is much much better.

Sakshi is dhoni's second wife???

 

[MP2011]

This movie is getting awesome response from the public in India.
Amazing acting and visual editing was top class. The way they mixed the match scenes with real footage, a brilliant idea. I have seen the highlights of 1983 Semi Final and Final umpteen times on Cricket Classics growing up and now on youtube so many times. Lot of 90s kids like me have done the same and they remember those scenes and visuals exactly.

The way the actors have captured the nuances and characters of different players is superb.
One example of that is when Kapil Dev Caught Viv in the final, and the crowd comes to grab him and he tries to escape them. In the movie the same scene is captured with exactly same expressions and Kapil's body actions when he is trying to get away from the crowd.
Even the West Indies players mannerisms have been captured to the perfection.
This show's the sincerity of people who made the movie and it reflects truly on the screen.

The story of Kapil's 175 vs Zimbabwe, Simply superb and many of my friends and family wanted to see the movie only for that epic innings.
Awesome Movie !! Hats off to Kabir Khan.

Kabir Khan has always been a great director.

 

[shaz619]

Iqbaal, Jersey(Telugu) were even better

Iqbaal use to come on a lot it was better then the usual but not better then the GOAT Lagaan imo, not seen Jersey

 

[James]

This sounds great!

 

[Justcrazy]

Very Good movie, I saw on weekend.

 

[Justcrazy]

Awesome trailer. I will definitely watch this. If not anything, want to see the story behind that famed 175 of Kapil Dev which was not televised.
15/5.. Captain coming to bat and team on the verge of exiting tournament. Spanking 175 no under such circumstances... Well Legendary stories were told to us by our parents as kids for this WC, especially those of us who grew up in 90s.
I expect this to be a super hit movie in India. They even showed Tendulkar in one frame as a 10 year old celebrating on his brothers shoulder. The 1983 WC win changed landscape of cricket for good.

They showed little Tendulkar twice.

 

[Markhor]

I'm all for more cricket films, and 1983 is a worthy subject given it was a seismic moment in the game beyond the events on the field.

Pakistan desperately needs Bollywood to make a movie on the CT17

Man there was so much drama in that one tournament. After getting thrashed in Birmingham by India and with all the pundits mocking and writing off Pakistan, only to come back and beat India in the final by 150+ runs!

The final itself had so many dramatic moments, the no ball and ball and then the ton by Fakhar! Who can ever forget Amir’s 2 balls to Kohli to break the back of Indian batting that day! Redemption!!

That would be a good concept. I personally would like to see a film on the 2009-16 years.

After the Lahore attack on SL team and spot-fixing scandal, Pakistan cricket stood on the precipice.

A captain whose career was thought to be over steadily rebuilds the team's reputation. Despite living out of a suitcase and not playing a single home Test, eventually this team reaches #1 in Test rankings albeit briefly.

The script writes itself. Unfortunately Pakistanis aren't very good at documenting our history.

 

[Rana]

I'm all for more cricket films, and 1983 is a worthy subject given it was a seismic moment in the game beyond the events on the field.



That would be a good concept. I personally would like to see a film on the 2009-16 years.

After the Lahore attack on SL team and spot-fixing scandal, Pakistan cricket stood on the precipice.

A captain whose career was thought to be over steadily rebuilds the team's reputation. Despite living out of a suitcase and not playing a single home Test, eventually this team reaches #1 in Test rankings albeit briefly.

The script writes itself. Unfortunately Pakistanis aren't very good at documenting our history.

Exactly.

The industry is weak and not well funded. This is why I would like Hollywood to direct the 1992 movie. They will do justice to the story more than anyone

 

[moghul]

Don;t remember when last time I watched an Indian movie but I watched this one on Christmas night in cinema ,finished 1 AM .

I enjoyed it a lot. Good entertainment . Some things are exaggerated but mostly close to real story. IK in the movie was not handsome enough, not even close.

They copied the bowling action of different bowlers extremely well . Action of Kapil Dev, Marshal in particular .

Its tells the story of Indian cricket, how poor they were in ODIs and how poor BCCI was in those days. Credit should be given to them how far they have come to become the richest one now .

No question India's 1983 victory has been on of the most inspiring and fairy tale story about cricket. Minnows became the world champion under a 23 YO inspiring leader.

Its a shame that one of the greatest ODI innings ever played was never recorded , Kapil's unbeaten 175 against Zimbabwe .

 

[moghul]

I did not like one scene, it was insensitive and there was no need for it . Don't think it really happened.

Srikant , got himself and teammates invited on a dinner at a South Indian family giving them the impression he was interested in marrying their young daughter for whom the parents were looking for a boy. Only after finishing the dinner they told the girl and the parents SK was recently married.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

I did not like one scene, it was insensitive and there was no need for it . Don't think it really happened.

Srikant , got himself and teammates invited on a dinner at a South Indian family giving them the impression he was interested in marrying their young daughter for whom the parents were looking for a boy. Only after finishing the dinner they told the girl and the parents SK was recently married.

Well the players were heavily involved in the story writing and working with their respective counterparts.
So this must have happened. As SriKanth's character said in the movie
Punjabis can eat meat and survive anywhere, What will us vegetarians do?

I think the players used the old tricks in the book to get free home cooked food. They hardly made any money.
Also, it was no ask no tell, the father of the girl also never asked that if SriKanth is married or not.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

I did not like one scene, it was insensitive and there was no need for it . Don't think it really happened.

Srikant , got himself and teammates invited on a dinner at a South Indian family giving them the impression he was interested in marrying their young daughter for whom the parents were looking for a boy. Only after finishing the dinner they told the girl and the parents SK was recently married.

Also SriKanth's intention was to have that story run till the end of World Cup. Kapil accidentally told the truth. In fact, I remember now. On the Kapil Sharma Comedy show, SriKanth had narrated this story and said he was angry at Kapil.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

This is a well researched movie. Even West Indies players Viv/Lloyd etc were involved.
The whole team especially went to UK for a trip. For the Kapil's knock, they invited the people who were in the crowd on that day and got input's from them.
Malcom Marshall's role is played by his Son Mali Marshall.
West Indies players on screen also had interactions with actual Windies players.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Its a shame that one of the greatest ODI innings ever played was never recorded , Kapil's unbeaten 175 against Zimbabwe .

There is a copy of Dev's innings actually.

There was an Indian fan in the crowd who video CAM recorded the whole innings. Kapil Dev ended up buying the tape of the Indian fan for an undisclosed amount...

Wish Dev would release it

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

There is a copy of Dev's innings actually.

There was an Indian fan in the crowd who video CAM recorded the whole innings. Kapil Dev ended up buying the tape of the Indian fan for an undisclosed amount...

Wish Dev would release it

Really ? I wish he would release it. It should be part of our National Heritage Archive.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Really ? I wish he would release it. It should be part of our National Heritage Archive.

The video quality of the recording may not be the best but considering it is imo the greatest ODI batting innings, DEV owes it to every cricket lover to release it.

Should we start a petition to get Dev's attention on this ?

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

There is a copy of Dev's innings actually.

There was an Indian fan in the crowd who video CAM recorded the whole innings. Kapil Dev ended up buying the tape of the Indian fan for an undisclosed amount...

Wish Dev would release it

Really ? I wish he would release it. It should be part of our National Heritage Archive.

I highly doubt this is true. Any evidence?

 

[Romali_rotti]

I highly doubt this is true. Any evidence?

No Evidence as Kapil hasnt claimed to have the copy of the fan recording from that day.

It is something I read on timesofindia a long time ago...

 

[Romali_rotti]

I am going to have to wait till netflix to see this...

After reading the comments of ppl who watched the movie, it is driving me nutssssss.. I soo badly want to seeee ittt...

 

[Savak]

Apparently the film has run into losses, so much so that Ranveer Singh might have to forfeit his fee. The film was produced by his wife Deepika Padukone

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

No Evidence as Kapil hasnt claimed to have the copy of the fan recording from that day.

It is something I read on timesofindia a long time ago...

So it’s not true…

I literally see no fathomable reason why Kapil Dev would buy unseen footage of arguably his greatest moment but then not let anyone else see it

 

[shaz619]

Apparently the film has run into losses, so much so that Ranveer Singh might have to forfeit his fee. The film was produced by his wife Deepika Padukone

If it has just released in theatres and hasn’t even released globally on streaming platforms, don’t you think it’s a bit premature to reach such conclusions at this point, which oracle did you speak to?

 

[moghul]

If it has just released in theatres and hasn’t even released globally on streaming platforms, don’t you think it’s a bit premature to reach such conclusions at this point, which oracle did you speak to?

When I went to watch the movie in cinema , here in NJ, there were lots of people , almost full house , even the show was quite late 9-50 PM .

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Apparently the film has run into losses, so much so that Ranveer Singh might have to forfeit his fee. The film was produced by his wife Deepika Padukone

Lot of people in big cities especially Delhi and Mumbai are avoiding going to theatre.they will have to cut a deal with some OTT Platforms.
Theatres are doomed now with no future. lot of my friend are waiting for OTT release and do not want to go to cinema.

 

[Savak]

If it has just released in theatres and hasn’t even released globally on streaming platforms, don’t you think it’s a bit premature to reach such conclusions at this point, which oracle did you speak to?

There is Bollywood Hungama article which talks about this.

https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/ne...s-crores-ranveer-singh-forego-pending-fee-83/

 

[JaDed]

If it has just released in theatres and hasn’t even released globally on streaming platforms, don’t you think it’s a bit premature to reach such conclusions at this point, which oracle did you speak to?

It’s defn a flop, Spiderman has killed a lot of its business .
If it’s not direct release to streaming it will not make so much money comparatively.

Telugu movies dubbed in Hindi are beating Hindi movies left and right, Pushpa being another.

 

[JaDed]

When I went to watch the movie in cinema , here in NJ, there were lots of people , almost full house , even the show was quite late 9-50 PM .

Overseas collections don’t matter as much as it used to ..Indian collection matters esp tier-2 tier -3 cities esp after multiplex boom across India and in that aspect it’s a huge flop.

 

[Hermoine Green]

Expected a better movie, but turned out to be a terrible one.

 

[Last Monetarist]

https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/box-office-collection/why-has-ranveer-singh-83-failed-to-perform-at-the-box-office-experts-answer-7695997/

The box office expectations from Kabir Khan’s sports drama 83 were quite high when it released in the cinemas on Christmas weekend. Given its positive reviews, film trade analysts were expecting it to create records at ticket windows. However, the film failed to live up to its box office expectations even as positive word of mouth continues to flow in.

Starting its run at the box office, the Ranveer Singh starrer earned Rs 12.64 crore on its opening day. Its first-weekend collection was recorded at Rs 47 crore despite it being a festive weekend. However, it witnessed a major dip on the first weekday as it earned Rs 7.29 crore on Monday and Rs 6.7 crore on Tuesday.

The rising fears of Omicron variant and increasing Covid-19 numbers had a role to play? Film trade analyst Taran Adarsh doesn’t believe so. “The good reviews from the critics and film industry have not translated into box office numbers. People just didn’t come in. Except for the three metros, nowhere else did we see a footfall in the theaters. The movie just did not click with people. Why should we blame coronavirus? Is it not there for those who are coming out to watch Spiderman: No Way Home and Pushpa: The Rise?” he says.

Film producer and trade analyst Girish Johar believes 83’s performing below expectations has to do with the fact that sports drama is not a mass entertainer, which may have affected its performance on single screens.

“I think the buzz around the movie was industry and critics driven. It was not that hot at the audience level. Maybe they perceived it as a docu-sports drama. Those who have watched and loved it is mostly the generation that already knows about the 1983 World Cup whereas, for the youngsters who don’t know what transpired during 1983, they wanted to watch it only from the film’s perspective. But, from what I have heard, they didn’t like the character development and it didn’t offer them the entertainment which they thought it would,” Johar told indianexpress.com.

Johar suggested that 83 couldn’t fulfil the criteria of a mass entertainer and had “more of smart urban content” which could only attract the multiplex audience. “I am not saying it is a badly made film, but maybe the problem was in its conceptualisation only. It was not a massy film,” he explained.

The audience had alternatives in Allu Arjun’s Pushpa: The Rise and Tom Holland-starrer Spiderman: No Way Home, which clicked at a mass level.

“The mass belt got its winner in Pushpa which had everything to cater to the interest of India’s audience. It was also a cheaper option. The ticket pricing was very high for 83 which pinched the audience. When people are getting a hardcore masala entertainer in Pushpa at a lower price, why would they go for an 83 which doesn’t fulfil their requirement?”

Marvel’s Spiderman: No Way Home had a strong opening and first-week collection. Even in its second week, the film maintained a stronghold at the ticket counters. The film is inching towards Rs 200 crore mark with Rs. 179.37 crore already in its kitty. According to Cinetrak, which provides box office updates for Indian movies, the film has earned more than Rs 230 crore so far. An AndhraPradeshBoxOffice.com report on Monday had pegged the collection of Pushpa at Rs 227 crore.

With states like Delhi closing down theatres in the wake of rising Covid numbers and Omicron fears, it has come as another dampener. “Omicron and the strict restrictions played a spoilsport for 83,” Girish Johar shared, adding that shutting of cinema halls once again will immensely impact the film industry. “The film industry had just started to get back on its feet, and once again it has suffered a blow. With Delhi closing cinema halls, the future once again looks bleak,” he added.

Taran Adarsh said the ‘game is over’ for the film industry with cinema halls shutting down again. “The game is over. It is disastrous. The industry was just starting to get back on track and now once again it has been hit by Covid-19,” he said.

Now, with the release of Shahid Kapoor’s Jersey being postponed, it remains to be seen if 83 will get some time to recover from its slow start at the box office.

 

[JaDed]

Bollywood will not be able to recover now, Telugu dubbed movies will become a norm and we will see only Metro audience movies from
Bollywood even at which they will lose to Tamil or Malyalam cinema.

A part of me is happy because they were going nowhere..and untalented children of the stars were being promoted and they preferred making movies for NRI audience.
I also came to know a lot of how the industry was actually working behind the scenes and I have to say it was disgusting to know a lot of stuff.

Amir Khan can only bring in 1-2 movies in 4-5years and no other actor except few of Akki’s wil be Pan Indian movies.

 

[Saj]

I saw a replay recently of the Andy Roberts lbw.

No way was that out.

 

[Savak]

The film was not marketed properly. Also one criticism as to why the film did not click with the masses is because there was just too much cricket and less focus on off field drama, it wasn't really entertaining enough to attract casuals

 

[uberkoen]

Bombed at the box office.

 

[shokz1408]

I watched it tonight, sick film! I really enjoyed it.

 

[Saj]

Ranveer Singh Starrer mega budget much awaited film released last weekend across 3300 screens all over India.

Film had huge expectations and Christmas holiday presented huge opportunity for a mammoth biz but film failed miserably. It was waiting for theatrical release for close to two years since pandemic started but film is rejected by audience apart of from few urban centres.

Film opened at 25% opening and it was good in metros. But it managed only 12.64 cr nett on day one which was way below par.

Film needed to score all over in order to fulfil expectations of huge biz but it also faced stiff competition from Spider – Man and Pushpa as both the films are rock solid in 2nd week also at box office.

Film had below par growth on Saturday considering it was national holiday of Christmas. Film collected 16.95 cr nett with 35% growth but it needed minimum 60% growth. Film again grew marginally and collected 17.41 cr nett on Sunday.

Film has total of 47 cr nett approx over the weekend. On Monday film needed minimum drop but it has dropped by 35-40% further from Friday and should collect close to 7.29 cr nett. Film added 6.70 cr nett on Tuesday with further drop.

Now with 60.99 cr nett in 5 – days, film is heading for massive disappointment at box office as all preview buzz and media hype failed to bring audience. It is heading for 70 cr nett week one and lifetime will remain short of 90 cr nett.

And on contrary under similar circumstances, Hollywood biggie Spider – Man and south film Pushpa are doing massive numbers.

https://boxofficeworldwide.com/box-...report-83-film-is-massive-flop-at-box-office/

 

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83: Sachin Tendulkar lauds Ranveer Singh for 'soaking' Kapil's traits in Bollywood movie, actor responds

Master Blaster Sachin Tendulkar has hailed Ranveer Singh for his ‘all-round’ display in the sports drama - 83. Ranveer essayed the role of Kapil Dev in the Bollywood movie.

Master Blaster Sachin Tendulkar had nothing but absolute praise for Bollywood actor Ranveer Singh, who essayed the role of legendary cricketer Kapil Dev in his newly released sports drama - 83. One of the finest batters in the history of the game, Tendulkar shared his review of the movie 83 on Wednesday. The Bollywood movie chronicled Team India's historic win in the final of the cricket World Cup at the famous Lord's Cricket Stadium.

India had clinched its maiden world title under the leadership of Kapil in 1983. The Kapil-led side had upstaged Viv Richards-starrer West Indies team to clinch India's maiden World Cup title at Lord's. Taking to Twitter on Wednesday, former Indian cricketer Tendulkar hailed Bollywood actor Ranveer for his spectacular performance in the movie - 83. One of the most followed cricketers on social media, batting legend Tendulkar praised Ranveer for his ‘all-round’ display in the sports drama.

"A brilliant ‘all-round’ display by @RanveerOfficial in 83. Really soaked in all the @therealkapildev Paaji traits to make us reminisce the iconic moments of our first-ever World Cup victory. I know the win really inspired the little boy," Tendulkar said in his tweet. "And then the little boy went on to inspire generations! Thank you, Master! This means everything!," Ranveer responded to Tendulkar's praise-worthy remarks on Twitter.

Tendulkar's special interaction with actor Ranveer has already garnered the attention of the netizens on the microblogging site. Tendulkar's tweet has fetched over 10k likes on Twitter. Helmed by celebrated director Kabir Khan, the Ranveer-starrer movie features his actress-wife Deepika Padukone in a crucial role.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...g-kapil-devs-traits-in-bollywood-movie/846684

 

[Zaz]

Why has the film done poor business in india? Has anyone seen it

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Why has the film done poor business in india? Has anyone seen it

Reviews on thread say it’s awesome. But in the box office it has flipped moserably. Could be 2 reasons:

1) it’s actually bad but the people on this forum who have seen it are die hard cricket fans so will like a cricket movie regardless due to novelty and the fact that they are fans

2) it’s not a bad movie but combination of covid and young generation not really having link to Kapil Dev has meant that there’s no real sentiment or interest to force younger people to go the theatre.

Pakistanis keep comparing to to Imran Khab but it’s a poor comparison. Kapil Dev isn’t as known as Imran Khan because firstly Kapil captained to WC a decade before even Imran so at this point it’s 4 generations. Secondly, he hasn’t really been in the media spotlight like Imran was due to Imran’s philanthropic and then political career.

 

[JaDed]

Reviews on thread say it’s awesome. But in the box office it has flipped moserably. Could be 2 reasons:

1) it’s actually bad but the people on this forum who have seen it are die hard cricket fans so will like a cricket movie regardless due to novelty and the fact that they are fans

2) it’s not a bad movie but combination of covid and young generation not really having link to Kapil Dev has meant that there’s no real sentiment or interest to force younger people to go the theatre.

Pakistanis keep comparing to to Imran Khab but it’s a poor comparison. Kapil Dev isn’t as known as Imran Khan because firstly Kapil captained to WC a decade before even Imran so at this point it’s 4 generations. Secondly, he hasn’t really been in the media spotlight like Imran was due to Imran’s philanthropic and then political career.

The movie is 20 years late.. we already had fairy tale moments like 2007,2011.(Sachin).

2) is the reason among your point along with.. bollywood being on a downward spiral against South Indian dubbed movies, many went to see Pushpa (telugu dubbed hindi) instead of this, which has already grossed more 300 crores Total.(inc Telugu)

 

[Saj]

Despite cricket being huge in India, it seems that over the years films relating to cricket have by and large flopped?

 

[JaDed]

Despite cricket being huge in India, it seems that over the years films relating to cricket have by and large flopped?

Good cricket films do well, Jersey in telugu, Lagaan, Dhoni, Iqbal all have done well, only silly ones flop.

The only issue with this film was the huge budget and timing, getting 100 crores was a good thing once ,somehow this movie was expected to get more than that..

 

[moghul]

Despite cricket being huge in India, it seems that over the years films relating to cricket have by and large flopped?

Typical masala required for a successful Indian movie is missing in it, no songs, no dances, no fight , just cricket, not enough.

 

[Savak]

Commercially the film has flopped, so much so that Ranveer Singh has had to forgo his paycheque to minimize the losses. Initially he had planned to produce another project but has decided to hold off on it after this debacle because he cannot afford commercial disaster

 

[PakLFC]

It seems this film has been unimpressive. Not too many people even Indian's would be interested in how they won the WC in 1983. Must credit Ranveer for pulling of Kapil's look off so well in the film.

 

[Smbhayi]

It'll gain popularity once it's released in OTT.. people these time only go to mass masala movies..

 

[liam26]

Well the present generation doesn't feel that connected to the 1983 Glory Event. Infact, Indian Cricket craze only increased in the 90s with the rise of SRT and 96 WC after that India even won the 2011 WC. It's hard to be so enthusiastic about an event that most people have never witnessed and so much more Cricket has happened after that. The 1983 Event is no longer fresh in memories of the masses, a lot of other Cricketing memories have surpassed that event for the public.

 

[moghul]

It'll gain popularity once it's released in OTT.. people these time only go to mass masala movies..

Might not be a blockbuster but a great sports movie about one of the greatest cricketing event in history, I loved it.

 

[moghul]

Well the present generation doesn't feel that connected to the 1983 Glory Event. Infact, Indian Cricket craze only increased in the 90s with the rise of SRT and 96 WC after that India even won the 2011 WC. It's hard to be so enthusiastic about an event that most people have never witnessed and so much more Cricket has happened after that. The 1983 Event is no longer fresh in memories of the masses, a lot of other Cricketing memories have surpassed that event for the public.

And the generation which witness that event unfolding , don't go to movie theatre much, will be a success in OTT.

 

[moghul]

Watching on Amazon prime serial "inside Edge" about IPL, bookies and match fixing and other masala, wondering was it a success , commercially ?

 

[Local.Dada]

Very caricaturist portrayals. Looked more like a comedy skit with duplicates of real people than a serious story. This incredible story that changed the face of international cricket and changed the status quo forever deserves better

 

[Waleed93]

I am waiting for this film to release on Netflix, the reviews have been fantastic and Ranveer's portrayal of Kapil Dev looks very realistic to say the least.

It's a shame that the film is not doing well at the box-office, mainly for 2 reasons :

1. The film's business has been severely damaged by Spider-Man and Pushpa's Hindi version.

2. This generation of Indian youngsters barely connect with Kapil Dev, his off the field quiet personality is very different to someone like Imran who has remained a relevant public figure, due to his larger than life character and political ambitions.

It's sad, especially when you consider how great and inspirational he was for Indian Cricket, and how Ranveer worked hard to get into his character.

I don't remember a Bollywood biopic where an actor got into the skin of his character so gracefully, other than Ranbir Kapoor in Sanjay Dutt's biopic.

 

[Savak]

https://arynews.tv/83-suffers-biggest-loss-ever-in-history-of-indian-cinema/

Sadly Kapil Dev unlike Imran Khan is not a big thing in his own country. Even Dhoni sells more

 

[leonidas_alexandar]

The distinction between Imran Khan and Kapil Dev pointed out by many posters are quite accurate. Apart from the fact that they both led their teams to victories at the World Cup there's not much else common in them non-cricketing image wise.

Kapil at least in India fell short of the sort of adulation Imran had in Pakistan. Kapil at least in theory had a peer/rival/senior in Sunil Gavaskar who was also very popular.

Imran's looks along with his cricketing achievements is a heady mix. The 1992 World Cup movie set in Australia - under lights - colored clothing - is stuff of blockbuster material. Hope someone talented in Pakistan makes a movie on it.

On another topic - yes Telugu dubbed movies will continue to encroach upon Bollywood space - especially after Bahubali's massive success.

 

[Savak]

The distinction between Imran Khan and Kapil Dev pointed out by many posters are quite accurate. Apart from the fact that they both led their teams to victories at the World Cup there's not much else common in them non-cricketing image wise.

Kapil at least in India fell short of the sort of adulation Imran had in Pakistan. Kapil at least in theory had a peer/rival/senior in Sunil Gavaskar who was also very popular.

Imran's looks along with his cricketing achievements is a heady mix. The 1992 World Cup movie set in Australia - under lights - colored clothing - is stuff of blockbuster material. Hope someone talented in Pakistan makes a movie on it.

On another topic - yes Telugu dubbed movies will continue to encroach upon Bollywood space - especially after Bahubali's massive success.

People tend to forget but Kapil had a horrible bowling avg and strike rate in test cricket in the last 4 years of his career. He was being carried by the selectors, Javagal Srinath had to routinely be benched while he persued Richard Hadlees record, he wanted a farewell series against the WI in 1994 but the selectors just dropped him from the team for good. These things damaged Kapils legacy at the end of his career

 

[Varun]

I liked this movie. Saw it in the cinemas before the lockdown was re-imposed.

Surprisingly well made.

 

[Local.Dada]

https://arynews.tv/83-suffers-biggest-loss-ever-in-history-of-indian-cinema/

Sadly Kapil Dev unlike Imran Khan is not a big thing in his own country. Even Dhoni sells more

What is your definition of being a big thing?

Is Kapil Dev driving a cab to make ends meet or do you think no one in India knows who Kapil Dev is?

Yes we didn’t make him prime minister. If that’s your benchmark. In fact even Sachin got mercilessly trolled for his brief political stint. It works differently in India.

 

[Savak]

What is your definition of being a big thing?

Is Kapil Dev driving a cab to make ends meet or do you think no one in India knows who Kapil Dev is?

Yes we didn’t make him prime minister. If that’s your benchmark. In fact even Sachin got mercilessly trolled for his brief political stint. It works differently in India.

Kapil is not a larger than life figure in India that IK is in Pakistan. At best he is just another cricketing legend India produced, there are so many of those in India. In Pakistan, IK stands the tallest among all of the cricketers produced by our country.

 

[gazza619]

https://arynews.tv/83-suffers-biggest-loss-ever-in-history-of-indian-cinema/

Sadly Kapil Dev unlike Imran Khan is not a big thing in his own country. Even Dhoni sells more

You make a movie on Imran Khan for 250 crore rupees, do you think it will make a profit? Dont think so.

Crazy money was spent on the making of 83, as if it was filmed on Mars.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

What is your definition of being a big thing?

Is Kapil Dev driving a cab to make ends meet or do you think no one in India knows who Kapil Dev is?

Yes we didn’t make him prime minister. If that’s your benchmark. In fact even Sachin got mercilessly trolled for his brief political stint. It works differently in India.

Take away political career and Imran khan would still be well known in Pakistan for his philanthropy work and setting up Pakistan first free cancer hospital.

Besides that he was well known even in British and Australian circles considering how many documentaries have been made on him in those countries

Kapil Dev just doesn’t have that reach

 

[JaDed]

The movie is not on Kapil Dev as such but 1983.. not sure why Kapil Dev is being ridiculed.

Also I’ll wait to see a movie budget over 100 INR on IK and then we can make a decision..

 

[Local.Dada]

Kapil is not a larger than life figure in India that IK is in Pakistan. At best he is just another cricketing legend India produced,.

Sure, can’t deny that. I feel in a way that is a good thing for India.

 

[Savak]

The movie is not on Kapil Dev as such but 1983.. not sure why Kapil Dev is being ridiculed.

Also I’ll wait to see a movie budget over 100 INR on IK and then we can make a decision..

A movie was planned for IK, it got shelved because it ran into financial problems

 

[Savak]

Take away political career and Imran khan would still be well known in Pakistan for his philanthropy work and setting up Pakistan first free cancer hospital.

Besides that he was well known even in British and Australian circles considering how many documentaries have been made on him in those countries

Kapil Dev just doesn’t have that reach

There are other things too. IK was always a charismatic individual, speaker who was always invited to speak on non-cricketing issues, he was very popular and famous in the US and European High Society, Celebrity Circles.

Kapil Dev in comparison broke down as an emotional child when he was accused of match fixing in 2000. Do you think IK who has faced far worse allegations would ever have reacted or behaved like that? You put the two of them together on a podium and you will see who stands out as the bigger man.

 

[Major]

I'm all for more cricket films, and 1983 is a worthy subject given it was a seismic moment in the game beyond the events on the field.



That would be a good concept. I personally would like to see a film on the 2009-16 years.

After the Lahore attack on SL team and spot-fixing scandal, Pakistan cricket stood on the precipice.

A captain whose career was thought to be over steadily rebuilds the team's reputation. Despite living out of a suitcase and not playing a single home Test, eventually this team reaches #1 in Test rankings albeit briefly.

The script writes itself. Unfortunately Pakistanis aren't very good at documenting our history.

Rain is pouring down and its close to 11 pm at night. Zakir Khan comes running down to Ijazz Butt's office, "Butt sa'ab, he has arrived"
"Good, he came alone right? You made sure no journalist followed in? "
"Jee Butt Sa'ab, not a person in sight! Should i call him in?"

"No no no, we cant risk having us seen meeting him. You know how the media likes to report things before anything concrete gets done. Arrange the meeting in the clerks office, i will be right there in 15 minutes"

Zakir khan being abit concerned, "Butt sa'ab, you sure?? You remember the hissy fit Younis put when he was made to wait. This time we are meeting another one and that too in a clerks room."

Ijazz Butt looks straight dead in Zakir Khan's eyes, "if this guy was just like the other jahils, i would had never even considered inviting him. But he's different. He isnt media fancy, is not part of any groupings plus i have heard he has done masters. Parha likha. Besides its just one series against South Africa in UAE. By the time we go to NZ, Younis would be apologising to us"

The player is taken to the clerks room at the Pcb hq. He is led into a dimly lit room with just two chairs and a desk placed inside. As the player sits and waits patiently, he wonders why Butt sa'ab had invited him at this hour and had been asked to not even inform his wife. For what she knows, hes out having coffee from coffee planet. He wonders whether he is going to be dropped from Pakistan A aswell... Maybe it was better to had stayed back in England after the hernia operation and look for club contracts. As thunder strucks, Misbah waits patiently and guesses what else is 2010 going to give him

 

[Major]

Out on netflix.

Damn this is a great movie. Probably the best cricket movie ever. Every cricket fan knows the trying to depict a delivery and a shot is very dofficult especially with sich accuracy.

Im not surprised the movie didnt do well in india as they like drama and love stroy type things. Plusz the accuracy of things arnt appreciated.

Its just too bad, because if you are tellling a true story, its the accuracy that matters which is why this movie had a big budget.

Had they made this movie like the othrr cricketing movie crap made in india on a local ground it would had done great but the accuracy would had been off.

Great movie

 

[Varun]

Rain is pouring down and its close to 11 pm at night. Zakir Khan comes running down to Ijazz Butt's office, "Butt sa'ab, he has arrived"
"Good, he came alone right? You made sure no journalist followed in? "
"Jee Butt Sa'ab, not a person in sight! Should i call him in?"

"No no no, we cant risk having us seen meeting him. You know how the media likes to report things before anything concrete gets done. Arrange the meeting in the clerks office, i will be right there in 15 minutes"

Zakir khan being abit concerned, "Butt sa'ab, you sure?? You remember the hissy fit Younis put when he was made to wait. This time we are meeting another one and that too in a clerks room."

Ijazz Butt looks straight dead in Zakir Khan's eyes, "if this guy was just like the other jahils, i would had never even considered inviting him. But he's different. He isnt media fancy, is not part of any groupings plus i have heard he has done masters. Parha likha. Besides its just one series against South Africa in UAE. By the time we go to NZ, Younis would be apologising to us"

The player is taken to the clerks room at the Pcb hq. He is led into a dimly lit room with just two chairs and a desk placed inside. As the player sits and waits patiently, he wonders why Butt sa'ab had invited him at this hour and had been asked to not even inform his wife. For what she knows, hes out having coffee from coffee planet. He wonders whether he is going to be dropped from Pakistan A aswell... Maybe it was better to had stayed back in England after the hernia operation and look for club contracts. As thunder strucks, Misbah waits patiently and guesses what else is 2010 going to give him

Gold!

 

[Romali_rotti]

Just saw the movie. It was ok. Like one of the posters above said it came 20 odd years late this movie. Should've been done about 25 years ago considering more than half of Indian population was born after 1990, the movie will go unappreciated....

 

[Salma_T]

I watched the movie today and enjoyed it. My 10 yr old son watched it (long live subtitles) really enjoyed it.

Just watching it he was in awe of Viv Richards swagger picked up on the Anglo bias in cricket and the fact that sport can be a unifying force. I explained how there were a lot of issues in India at the time and the PM was assassinated a year later.

 

[Major]

Imran Khan in the movie )

 

[MenInG]

Been watching this in bits as and when I get time.

Liked some bits but just feel that this "lagaan" style of sports based movies is a bit tedious. The whole India v World (especially the Evil Angrez) just makes the movie bit hard to watch.

 

[Local.Dada]

Been watching this in bits as and when I get time.

Liked some bits but just feel that this "lagaan" style of sports based movies is a bit tedious. The whole India v World (especially the Evil Angrez) just makes the movie bit hard to watch.

I hope you realize it’s a Bollywood Masala film and not a documentary right?

 

[Major]

Been watching this in bits as and when I get time.

Liked some bits but just feel that this "lagaan" style of sports based movies is a bit tedious. The whole India v World (especially the Evil Angrez) just makes the movie bit hard to watch.

To be fair, its a much better sports movie, not those cliche movies where you are losing and than regroup and start winning...

Its based on the real results, and plus this was a world cup being played 20-25 years after partition i guess

 

[Local.Dada]

On topic though, I think it’s a decent effort to bollywoodize the story for the masses. Yes there is cringe and over the top fluff but that was expected. Could it have been better. Absolutely. Could it have been even worse. Huge possibility.

Overall given my low expectations for Bollywood standards : a very good effort

 

[Local.Dada]

To be fair, its a much better sports movie, not those cliche movies where you are losing and than regroup and start winning...

Its based on the real results, and plus this was a world cup being played 20-25 years after partition i guess

As a movie I liked MSD better. Obviously 83 is a more entertaining story overall.

However the way they showed the struggle of small town cricketers from humble backgrounds and their frustrations was fantastic in Dhoni. Second half was crap because they didn’t know how to handle the cricket.

This movie did a great job with the cricket but the character development was crap.

 

[Major]

As a movie I liked MSD better. Obviously 83 is a more entertaining story overall.

However the way they showed the struggle of small town cricketers from humble backgrounds and their frustrations was fantastic in Dhoni. Second half was crap because they didn’t know how to handle the cricket.

This movie did a great job with the cricket but the character development was crap.

Dhoni was crap... Typical sports movie where they show that struggle.

Sad about the actors death, but could had used someone else and done a better casting overall.

Also movies on sports personalities shouldnt be made while they are playing atleast give few years time.

 

[Local.Dada]

Dhoni was crap... Typical sports movie where they show that struggle.

Sad about the actors death, but could had used someone else and done a better casting overall.

Also movies on sports personalities shouldnt be made while they are playing atleast give few years time.

Dhoni second half was crap. First half was very good. I guess people who wanted over the top Masala didn’t like that narration.

To each his own. I felt 83 was over the top but still alright but could have been much better.

I agree with your last comment and that’s why I feel they did the best with what they could do there.

2nd half of Dhoni was crap. That’s what made it an average movie: 1st half was outstanding. That’s my personal opinion.

 

[Major]

Dhoni second half was crap. First half was very good. I guess people who wanted over the top Masala didn’t like that narration.

To each his own. I felt 83 was over the top but still alright but could have been much better.

I agree with your last comment and that’s why I feel they did the best with what they could do there.

2nd half of Dhoni was crap. That’s what made it an average movie: 1st half was outstanding. That’s my personal opinion.

dhoni was a typical bollywood masala film

Dhoit was one of the worst sports movie ever made, poor casting and poorly told story. Over acting aswell. It was a pathetically low budget film. If the budget was high than really bad stuff.

83 was a master class. A proper cricketing movie. Its really difficult to show crixketing shots and they showed as if it was being broadcasted.

 

[JaDed]

Paan Singh Tomar is the best sports movie, Jersey Telugu is pretty good too.

Also Chak de a complete sports movie

 

[Local.Dada]

dhoni was a typical bollywood masala film

Dhoit was one of the worst sports movie ever made, poor casting and poorly told story. Over acting aswell. It was a pathetically low budget film. If the budget was high than really bad stuff.

83 was a master class. A proper cricketing movie. Its really difficult to show crixketing shots and they showed as if it was being broadcasted.

Whatever man. If you feel so strongly about it than sure I agree with you I guess

 

[Major]

Paan Singh Tomar is the best sports movie, Jersey Telugu is pretty good too.

Also Chak de a complete sports movie

Chak de was great because of the atmospher it created. The play list and than the world t20 2007 taking place.

But it was the typical sports story, first you lose than start winning

This is why 83 is one of the best sports movies from india.