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The Metropolitan Police has said 890 people were arrested at a protest against the banning of Palestine Action as a terror group on Saturday - including 17 on suspicion of assaulting officers.

A total of 857 individuals were arrested in Parliament Square in London under the Terrorism Act 2000 over alleged offences, the force said.

It added that a further 33 were arrested for other offences, with 17 of those detained on suspicion of assaulting officers. The Met Police did not say what the other 16 arrests were for.

Deputy Assistant Commissioner Claire Smart, who led the policing operation, thanked Met Police officers for their "professionalism and tireless work despite the level of abuse that they faced".

Ms Smart said: "The violence we encountered during the operation was coordinated and carried out by a group of people, many wearing masks to conceal their identity, intent on creating as much disorder as possible.

"Many of those individuals have now been arrested and we have begun securing charges."

Defend Our Juries, which organised the demonstrations, insisted the rally was "the picture of peaceful protest".

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890 people arrested at Palestine Action protest - including 17 on suspicion of assaulting police officers

A total of 857 individuals were arrested under the Terrorism Act 2000 over alleged offences, while 33 people were detained for other offences.
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Funny thing is that they will be called terrorist by people like @Rajdeep but these brave men and women take inspiration from Gandhi!

Their protests in London start from the Gandhi statue.
 
I don't get it. The videos linked in that article just shows a bunch of middle aged white folk sitting quietly protesting. Where is the terror part?
 
Ah yes, let me trust the judgement of the British govt… same govt that played a major hand in the creation of the illegal occupation of Palestine 🤡
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Funny thing is that they will be called terrorist by people like @Rajdeep but these brave men and women take inspiration from Gandhi!

Their protests in London start from the Gandhi statue.
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LOL.

The British government banned Palestine Action as a proscribed terrorist organisation from 5 July 2025. Blaming me will not help bro.
 
Rajdeep said:
LOL.

The British government banned Palestine Action as a proscribed terrorist organisation from 5 July 2025. Blaming me will not help bro.
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And do you think climate change activists that disrupt traffic and throw red paint around should also be proscribed as terrorists?

And those that simply support them be arrested?
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
I don't get it. The videos linked in that article just shows a bunch of middle aged white folk sitting quietly protesting. Where is the terror part?
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British Govt has banned this outfit as terrorist organization not for bunch of middle age white folk protesting. Read below:

That this House condemns the Government’s proposed Statutory Instrument to proscribe Palestine Action as a terrorist organisation; believes this constitutes a dangerous escalation in the crackdown on civil liberties; recognises the fundamental distinction between non-violent direct action and terrorism; affirms the right to protest as a core tenet of any democratic society; notes that criminal offences such as property damage should be dealt with under existing criminal law, not by redefining protest as terrorism; recalls the proud British history of disruptive protest by the Quakers, Suffragettes and others, whose actions were instrumental in winning rights, not committing terrorism

 
Patriot said:
And do you think climate change activists that disrupt traffic and throw red paint around should also be proscribed as terrorists?

And those that simply support them be arrested?
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Why are posters going after me here? I am not govt of UK...LOL.
 
Patriot said:
Yeah these people are simply voicing their support for Palestine Action and are not members.
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The point is you cant show your support openly to a proscribed terrorist organization. Whether you agree with labelling them as terror outfit or not is a different debate. However, one must respect the law of the land and show no allegiance to a banned organization in the country where its banned.
 
Rajdeep said:
The point is you cant show your support openly to a proscribed terrorist organization. Whether you agree with labelling them as terror outfit or not is a different debate. However, one must respect the law of the land and show no allegiance to a banned organization in the country where its banned.
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What does a citizen do when they disagree with the law of the land?
 
Rajdeep said:
The point is you cant show your support openly to a proscribed terrorist organization. Whether you agree with labelling them as terror outfit or not is a different debate. However, one must respect the law of the land and show no allegiance to a banned organization in the country where its banned.
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Free speech? These people aren’t supporting violence themselves, they are simply supporting Palestine Action. Palestine Action does stuff I don’t agree with such as breaking windows and stuff but they also protest against Israeli companies in the U.K. One shouldn’t be arrested for simply supporting them. We don’t know if people are only supporting them for some of the legitimate actions they do and not for the more extreme actions.
 
Rajdeep said:
The point is you cant show your support openly to a proscribed terrorist organization. Whether you agree with labelling them as terror outfit or not is a different debate. However, one must respect the law of the land and show no allegiance to a banned organization in the country where its banned.
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They are not showing allegiance for Palestine Action, they are protesting at the govt action of banning the group.
 
Let's be real: in this current Israel - Palestine conflict (2023 - present), Israel has taken it way too far. That was apparent as of late-2023 itself.

So Muslims protesting loudly against it in the UK is a noble thing.

However, if the chants of "God Save the King" are louder, then it will amount to naught. Israel is like an aircraft carrier of the Western World in the Middle East and different measures are needed to have them stop and co-exist with the Palestinians.
 
I have no sympathy for the British. They deserve what is happening to them.

The White Europeans do not even have the numbers to put up a serious fight and take their country back from Islamists. It’s a lost cause. London has fallen.

The Chakra of Karma spares no one.
 
Bhaijaan said:
I have no sympathy for the British. They deserve what is happening to them.

The White Europeans do not even have the numbers to put up a serious fight and take their country back from Islamists. It’s a lost cause. London has fallen.

The Chakra of Karma spares no one.
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Not sure if numeracy is your strong point. But 85% of UK is white. Lol
 
DeadlyVenom said:
What does a citizen do when they disagree with the law of the land?
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You are missing the point. So let me elaborate.

First of all hope you agree that United Kingdom is a fair country with freedom of speech and expression. Infact some may claim, they are way too linient and politically correct. So in this country, there is no ban on protesting for people in Palestine or against Israel as long as it is peacful. It is infact going on every weekend across every British cities for the last 20 months. There are no such freedom to protest in Arab world though but thats a different discussion. So lets first thank our heaven that we live in such a free and fair nation.

However, Govt of Britain has banned this outfit Palestine Action group under the pretext of terrorism. A responsible govt like ours surely has taken everything into context and consideration before banning this group. I am sure they have not done it in haste to antagonise people like you. A Britsh Govt will never do that.

Now if people still show support for this group, it is indirectly not following govt orders and putting national security at risk. So they have all the right to arrest these people. You then cant say we have the right to protest against an explicit ban. It is like when govt has banned social gathering during Covid, people still turning up saying we dont like this law.

Freedom of speech is not absolute. By all means protesting for people of Palestine is fine but not showing support of this terror outfit. Its a criminal offence.
 
Varun said:
Let's be real: in this current Israel - Palestine conflict (2023 - present), Israel has taken it way too far. That was apparent as of late-2023 itself.

So Muslims protesting loudly against it in the UK is a noble thing.

However, if the chants of "God Save the King" are louder, then it will amount to naught. Israel is like an aircraft carrier of the Western World in the Middle East and different measures are needed to have them stop and co-exist with the Palestinians.
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This group Palestine Action and those protesting in their support is mainly white liberals and hippies.

In fact the Muslim turnout at pro Palestine demos is relatively low. Most of it is white liberals. This is the type of people cops are arresting
 
Rajdeep said:
You are missing the point. So let me elaborate.

First of all hope you agree that United Kingdom is a fair country with freedom of speech and expression. Infact some may claim, they are way too linient and politically correct. So in this country, there is no ban on protesting for people in Palestine or against Israel as long as it is peacful. It is infact going on every weekend across every British cities for the last 20 months. There are no such freedom to protest in Arab world though but thats a different discussion. So lets first thank our heaven that we live in such a free and fair nation.

However, Govt of Britain has banned this outfit Palestine Action group under the pretext of terrorism. A responsible govt like ours surely has taken everything into context and consideration before banning this group. I am sure they have not done it in haste to antagonise people like you. A Britsh Govt will never do that.

Now if people still show support for this group, it is indirectly not following govt orders and putting national security at risk. So they have all the right to arrest these people. You then cant say we have the right to protest against an explicit ban. It is like when govt has banned social gathering during Covid, people still turning up saying we dont like this law.

Freedom of speech is not absolute. By all means protesting for people of Palestine is fine but not showing support of this terror outfit. Its a criminal offence.
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I think you have diverted again from my question. What other option does the public have apart from Gandhi style non violent sit ins if they disagree with the government?
 
Bhaijaan said:
I have no sympathy for the British. They deserve what is happening to them.

The White Europeans do not even have the numbers to put up a serious fight and take their country back from Islamists. It’s a lost cause. London has fallen.

The Chakra of Karma spares no one.
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and we have no sympathy for the cow dung and urine consumers..

I could continue to act they way you are, I.e gas lighting, but don't want keep you away from the phone calls...
 
Those who were once colonized now champion the colonizer’s narrative, blinded by a hatred for Muslims drilled into them since birth. But as @Bhaijaan said, the Chakra of Karma never misses.
 
Rajdeep said:
You are missing the point. So let me elaborate.

First of all hope you agree that United Kingdom is a fair country with freedom of speech and expression. Infact some may claim, they are way too linient and politically correct. So in this country, there is no ban on protesting for people in Palestine or against Israel as long as it is peacful. It is infact going on every weekend across every British cities for the last 20 months. There are no such freedom to protest in Arab world though but thats a different discussion. So lets first thank our heaven that we live in such a free and fair nation.

However, Govt of Britain has banned this outfit Palestine Action group under the pretext of terrorism. A responsible govt like ours surely has taken everything into context and consideration before banning this group. I am sure they have not done it in haste to antagonise people like you. A Britsh Govt will never do that.

Now if people still show support for this group, it is indirectly not following govt orders and putting national security at risk. So they have all the right to arrest these people. You then cant say we have the right to protest against an explicit ban. It is like when govt has banned social gathering during Covid, people still turning up saying we dont like this law.

Freedom of speech is not absolute. By all means protesting for people of Palestine is fine but not showing support of this terror outfit. Its a criminal offence.
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The government’s ruling is being legally challenged.

You say this government took everything into context and consideration, well why don’t you check out the mess Reeves has done to the economy and then think if she was considerate. Government’s make mistakes and do stupid things. They aren’t perfect!
 
Bhaijaan said:
I have no sympathy for the British. They deserve what is happening to them.

The White Europeans do not even have the numbers to put up a serious fight and take their country back from Islamists. It’s a lost cause. London has fallen.

The Chakra of Karma spares no one.
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Why do you say that? The vast majority of British people are good and honest people. They were against the Iraq war and a lot are against the oppression of the Palestinians.

Are you blaming them for colonialism? None were even alive back then. How can you blame people for something their ancestors did?

I love Britain and love its people. It’s my country and it mostly does the right thing. However, I don’t always agree with it.

BTW, as pointed out already, most of the U.K. is white. Also, a lot of immigrants to the U.K. recently are Indian. How has London fallen? It’s still one of the greatest cities in the world. Britain just needs to get its act together and be serious about punishments for knife crimes, etc. and things will get better.
 
Rajdeep said:
LOL.

The British government banned Palestine Action as a proscribed terrorist organisation from 5 July 2025. Blaming me will not help bro.
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GENEVA – The UK Government’s decision to proscribe the ‘Palestine Action’ protest group under terrorism legislation raises serious concerns that counter-terrorism laws are being applied to conduct that is not terrorist in nature and risks hindering the legitimate exercise of fundamental freedoms across the UK, UN Human Rights Chief Volker Türk warned today.

The UK Government proscribed Palestine Action under the Terrorism Act 2000 after some of its members broke into a military airfield in June and reportedly spray-painted two military aircraft, among other incidents of property damage.

“UK domestic counter-terrorism legislation defines terrorist acts broadly to include ‘serious damage to property’. But, according to international standards, terrorist acts should be confined to criminal acts intended to cause death or serious injury or to the taking of hostages, for purpose of intimidating a population or to compel a government to take a certain action or not,” said Türk. “It misuses the gravity and impact of terrorism to expand it beyond those clear boundaries, to encompass further conduct that is already criminal under the law.”

The ban, among other things, makes it a criminal offence to be a member of Palestine Action, express support for the group, or wear an item of clothing that would arouse “reasonable suspicion” that a person is a member of or supports the organization. Such conduct is punishable by criminal penalties, including fines and prison sentences of up to 14 years.

“The decision appears disproportionate and unnecessary. It limits the rights of many people involved with and supportive of Palestine Action who have not themselves engaged in any underlying criminal activity but rather exercised their rights to freedom of expression, peaceful assembly and association,” the High Commissioner said. “As such, it appears to constitute an impermissible restriction on those rights that is at odds with the UK’s obligations under international human rights law.”

“The decision also conflates protected expression and other conduct with acts of terrorism and so could readily lead to further chilling effect on the lawful exercise of these rights by many people,” he added.

Since the UK Government’s ban came into effect on 5 July, at least 200 people have been arrested under the UK Terrorism Act 2000, many of them while attending peaceful protests.

“I urge the UK Government to rescind its decision to proscribe Palestine Action and to halt investigations and further proceedings against protesters who have been arrested on the basis of this proscription. I also call on the UK Government to review and revise its counter-terrorism legislation, including its definition of terrorist acts, to bring it fully in line with international human rights norms and standards,” the High Commissioner said.
 
Patriot said:
Why do you say that? The vast majority of British people are good and honest people. They were against the Iraq war and a lot are against the oppression of the Palestinians.

Are you blaming them for colonialism? None were even alive back then. How can you blame people for something their ancestors did?

I love Britain and love its people. It’s my country and it mostly does the right thing. However, I don’t always agree with it.

BTW, as pointed out already, most of the U.K. is white. Also, a lot of immigrants to the U.K. recently are Indian. How has London fallen? It’s still one of the greatest cities in the world. Britain just needs to get its act together and be serious about punishments for knife crimes, etc. and things will get better.
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I understand your feelings. Many of my fellow Sanatanis live in the UK too, and I respect the fact that countless individuals there are good, honest, and generous. I’m not questioning that. But when I speak of the “fall” of Britain, I’m speaking less about individuals alive today and more about the larger arc of history, the consequences of past actions, and the universal law of Karma.

The British Crown, for centuries, presided over an empire that caused untold suffering across half the globe. Colonies were stripped of wealth worth trillions of pounds, communities were torn apart, cultures were degraded, and millions of lives were destroyed through man made famine, exploitation, and violence. That trauma doesn’t vanish just because time has passed.

In Sanatan Dharma, if there is one principle that is absolute, it is Karma, the law of cause and effect. The debts of injustice do not simply disappear. They must be repaid, whether in one lifetime or across generations. Divine justice may seem delayed, but it is never denied. This is the crux of Sanatan and a teaching that all Hindus live by.

I understand that many in Britain today are innocent of those past crimes. They didn’t personally colonize India, Africa, or Asia. Yet they continue to benefit from systems of privilege, wealth, and global influence that were built upon those very injustices. That is why I view the demographic, cultural, and geopolitical changes happening in the UK and Europe not as random misfortune but as part of that karmic balancing. History is a circle; what was once done to others inevitably returns in another form.

When I mention the rise of Islamists in the UK and Europe, I don’t mean to glorify extremism or violence. What I mean is that the same regions that once prided themselves on dominating and reshaping the rest of the world are now being forced to confront deep shifts in their own societies. It is a mirror being held up to Europe, a reminder that actions have consequences. The so-called “invincible” glass houses of empire were built on exploitation, and they are not immune to shattering.
 
New Banksy Work Seen as Comment on U.K. Crackdown on Palestine Action

Two men in uniform stand guard in front of gray metal barriers blocking the view to a new mural by Banksy.
Guards in front of metal screens on Monday in London helped obscure the view of a mural by the anonymous artist Banksy at the Royal Courts of Justice.Credit...Jack Taylor/Reuters

The image is a shocking one. A judge, in a long English legal wig and dark robes, is about to smash his gavel onto a man lying on the ground.

The man is holding a sign that is blank but spattered with blood, a small splash of red paint on the otherwise black and white mural.

The piece, the latest art work by Banksy, the famed British street artist, was posted on his Instagram page Monday morning, captioned simply: “Royal Courts of Justice London.”

The mural was immediately interpreted by many as a comment on the treatment of supporters of Palestine Action, a pro-Palestinian activist group that was banned as a terrorist organization by the British government in July.

More than 800 people were arrested in London on Saturday after taking part in protests against the ban.

Hundreds sat silently on the ground outside Parliament holding placards that read: “I oppose genocide. I support Palestine Action.” The law used to arrest them criminalizes the wearing, display or publication of anything that “arouses reasonable suspicion” of support for a banned group.

Defend Our Juries, a group that has been organizing demonstrations against the ban, said in a statement that the Banksy work “powerfully depicts the brutality unleashed by Yvette Cooper on protesters by proscribing Palestine Action,” referring to the former home secretary, Ms. Cooper, who introduced the ban.

“Categorizing these acts of conscience as well as direct action targeting weapons’ companies property as terrorism, is objectively preposterous and profoundly corrosive to the principles of free expression and assembly that underpin a democratic society,” the statement said.

The government has defended its decision to ban Palestine Action as a terrorist group, with the security minister, Dan Jarvis, telling Parliament that the group had crossed the legal threshold for terrorism and that its activities had “increased in frequency and severity,” with some members “demonstrating a willingness to use violence.”

By lunchtime on Monday, the mural had been obscured by large sheets of plastic and metal barriers. It was positioned underneath a CCTV camera overlooking one side of the Royal Courts of Justice.

The grand court complex, on the Strand in central London, houses the High Court and the Court of Appeal of England and Wales. The co-founder of Palestine Action is waging a legal battle in the High Court against the government’s decision to put the organization on the same legal footing as groups such as Al Qaeda and Islamic State.

At a separate hearing set for Sept. 25 in the Court of Appeal, the British government will seek to overturn a judge’s decision to grant the group permission for a full judicial review of the terror designation.

The government ban came after two members of Palestine Action broke into a British military base and damaged planes to protest Britain’s military support for Israel. Palestine Action is the first organization to be banned under a segment of Britain’s legal definition of terrorism that covers serious property damage, rather than violence against people, to advance a political cause.

Britain’s new home secretary, Shabana Mahmood, appointed on Friday after a reshuffle of Prime Minister Keir Starmer’s top team, has indicated that she will support the position of her predecessor, Ms. Cooper.

Ms. Mahmood visited a Metropolitan Police control room in Lambeth on Saturday as people protesting the ban were being arrested across the river, in Westminster. A statement issued by the Home Office said Ms. Mahmood had thanked police leaders and “backed officers in making arrests of those who supported proscribed terrorist organization Palestine Action.”


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New Banksy Work Seen as Comment on Crackdown on Palestine Action Supporters

The mural that appeared outside the Royal Courts of Justice in London on Monday depicted a judge attacking a demonstrator with a gavel.
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The white nations do not have a birthright on wealth and political power. They had a few good centuries. They were opportunistic. But natural selection doesn’t favour them
to continue to dominate. A huge % of them are gay and collectively they have the worst fertility rate of all races. Their economies are dead. Their geopolitical games exposed to the rest of the world. Time is ticking away for them.
 
Bhaijaan said:
The white nations do not have a birthright on wealth and political power. They had a few good centuries. They were opportunistic. But natural selection doesn’t favour them
to continue to dominate. A huge % of them are gay and collectively they have the worst fertility rate of all races. Their economies are dead. Their geopolitical games exposed to the rest of the world. Time is ticking away for them.
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Mussolini and Hitler said the same thing, then got kerb stomped by the USA.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I think you have diverted again from my question. What other option does the public have apart from Gandhi style non violent sit ins if they disagree with the government?
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I am not following your line of arguement at all. Even if you peacefully protest for ISIS, Hamas or Al Qaeda, you will still get arrested. They arent arrested for their nature of protest but for showing allegiance to a group which British govt seemed fit to be declared as terrorist organization. Then again, as the OP suggested, 17 people even attacked police officer...so there goes the peaceful theory.
 
Bhaijaan said:
I understand your feelings. Many of my fellow Sanatanis live in the UK too, and I respect the fact that countless individuals there are good, honest, and generous. I’m not questioning that. But when I speak of the “fall” of Britain, I’m speaking less about individuals alive today and more about the larger arc of history, the consequences of past actions, and the universal law of Karma.

The British Crown, for centuries, presided over an empire that caused untold suffering across half the globe. Colonies were stripped of wealth worth trillions of pounds, communities were torn apart, cultures were degraded, and millions of lives were destroyed through man made famine, exploitation, and violence. That trauma doesn’t vanish just because time has passed.

In Sanatan Dharma, if there is one principle that is absolute, it is Karma, the law of cause and effect. The debts of injustice do not simply disappear. They must be repaid, whether in one lifetime or across generations. Divine justice may seem delayed, but it is never denied. This is the crux of Sanatan and a teaching that all Hindus live by.

I understand that many in Britain today are innocent of those past crimes. They didn’t personally colonize India, Africa, or Asia. Yet they continue to benefit from systems of privilege, wealth, and global influence that were built upon those very injustices. That is why I view the demographic, cultural, and geopolitical changes happening in the UK and Europe not as random misfortune but as part of that karmic balancing. History is a circle; what was once done to others inevitably returns in another form.

When I mention the rise of Islamists in the UK and Europe, I don’t mean to glorify extremism or violence. What I mean is that the same regions that once prided themselves on dominating and reshaping the rest of the world are now being forced to confront deep shifts in their own societies. It is a mirror being held up to Europe, a reminder that actions have consequences. The so-called “invincible” glass houses of empire were built on exploitation, and they are not immune to shattering.
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We can agree to disagree on this. I don’t believe that people who did not commit the crimes of their ancestors should pay the price. Nations rise and fall and that is inevitable and it is divine.
 
Rajdeep said:
I am not following your line of arguement at all. Even if you peacefully protest for ISIS, Hamas or Al Qaeda, you will still get arrested. They arent arrested for their nature of protest but for showing allegiance to a group which British govt seemed fit to be declared as terrorist organization. Then again, as the OP suggested, 17 people even attacked police officer...so there goes the peaceful theory.
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You can’t compare Palestine action with Hamas lol. There is no comparison. Hamas has killed civilians, the worst Palestine action has done is break windows and throw paint. But you are correct that once proscribed, supporting a group is a criminal offence. As I have said, this is being challenged legally.
 
What is the point of protesting in London, Paris, Sydney and NY?
They should go to Israel and protest. Take their anger on IDF.
 
Rajdeep said:
I am not following your line of arguement at all. Even if you peacefully protest for ISIS, Hamas or Al Qaeda, you will still get arrested. They arent arrested for their nature of protest but for showing allegiance to a group which British govt seemed fit to be declared as terrorist organization. Then again, as the OP suggested, 17 people even attacked police officer...so there goes the peaceful theory.
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Interesting Raju bhai

British government deemed boat crossers to be allowed to live peacefully in hotels. What's the need for the protests if as you say earlier that the British government should be relied on and their laws respected. Please maintain consistency brother. Just because some Indians got some chittar in Sydney doesn't mean you lose your dignity on the forum.
 
Champ_Pal said:
What is the point of protesting in London, Paris, Sydney and NY?
They should go to Israel and protest. Take their anger on IDF.
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Why should they go to Israel and protest? They are protesting their own government for supporting Israel and selling it weapons and not sanctioning it. They can’t do anything about Israel but they can be angry at their governments. This will only end once Israel is blacklisted and sanctioned by the world, but since the Israeli lobby is so entrenched, it will never happen but people can still protest their governments.
 
Rajdeep said:
I am not following your line of arguement at all. Even if you peacefully protest for ISIS, Hamas or Al Qaeda, you will still get arrested. They arent arrested for their nature of protest but for showing allegiance to a group which British govt seemed fit to be declared as terrorist organization. Then again, as the OP suggested, 17 people even attacked police officer...so there goes the peaceful theory.
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This group attacked Royal Air force in UK and damaged it. They are not peaceful protesters. They are lucky they did not get shot.
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Over 800 Arrested at Protest After Pro-Palestinian Group Banned as Terrorist

The demonstrators, hauled off for holding signs, had gathered in London to oppose the government’s declaring Palestine Action a terrorist organization.
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Sanghis expect others to be bootlickers just like them.

They don't understand protest is something that is perfectly legal in UK. It is not like India where you have to bootlick chaiwala 24/7. :inti
 
Champ_Pal said:
What is the point of protesting in London, Paris, Sydney and NY?
They should go to Israel and protest. Take their anger on IDF.
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They are urging their governments to take action. It would be a bit silly to go to Israel to protest against the British government and call for an end to British arms sales :kp
 
Patriot said:
You can’t compare Palestine action with Hamas lol. There is no comparison. Hamas has killed civilians, the worst Palestine action has done is break windows and throw paint. But you are correct that once proscribed, supporting a group is a criminal offence. As I have said, this is being challenged legally.
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British govt sees both as terrorist organization and anyone cheering for them will get arrested. Not sure what is so difficult to understand. No one is stopping people from protesting for Palestinian people...that is their democratic right.
 
sweep_shot said:
Sanghis expect others to be bootlickers just like them.

They don't understand protest is something that is perfectly legal in UK. It is not like India where you have to bootlick chaiwala 24/7. :inti
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Irony is not lost.

They spend all day in Western countries extolling the virtues of India and it's economy...and when indigenous brits protest they tell them to leave the country :inti
 
Patriot said:
Why should they go to Israel and protest? They are protesting their own government for supporting Israel and selling it weapons and not sanctioning it. They can’t do anything about Israel but they can be angry at their governments. This will only end once Israel is blacklisted and sanctioned by the world, but since the Israeli lobby is so entrenched, it will never happen but people can still protest their governments.
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Got it.
Protesting in peace is one thing. But becoming violent is terrible. If these people want to be violent, then they should direct it towards IDF. They don’t have the guts to go to Gaza and be violent there. So they conveniently do it in UK knowing that the government there will treat them with kid gloves.
 
sweep_shot said:
Sanghis expect others to be bootlickers just like them.

They don't understand protest is something that is perfectly legal in UK. It is not like India where you have to bootlick chaiwala 24/7. :inti
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The alternative is be violent and destroy government property. This is what Islamists do. You seem to be supporting such behavior and you live in West. Shocking.
 
Rajdeep said:
British govt sees both as terrorist organization and anyone cheering for them will get arrested. Not sure what is so difficult to understand. No one is stopping people from protesting for Palestinian people...that is their democratic right.
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They don’t get it. Once someone resorts to violence to put their view forward, they are no better than Terrorist Hamas. 🙄
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Irony is not lost.

They spend all day in Western countries extolling the virtues of India and it's economy...and when indigenous brits protest they tell them to leave the country :inti
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They (immigrant Indians) are asking native Brits to leave the country. Talk about high entitlement. The word "beghairat" comes to mind.

British Empire made a blunder in 1947 when they didn't balkanize India further. Many of the current issues could've been prevented if India was divided into 5-6 countries. Anyway, hopefully balkanization of India will happen very soon.:inti
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Interesting Raju bhai

British government deemed boat crossers to be allowed to live peacefully in hotels. What's the need for the protests if as you say earlier that the British government should be relied on and their laws respected. Please maintain consistency brother. Just because some Indians got some chittar in Sydney doesn't mean you lose your dignity on the forum.
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Boat crossers are asylum seekers, and the government gives them shelter as refugees. People protesting against this are simply exercising their democratic right — especially since it’s taxpayers’ money being used to support them.

But comparing these protests to demonstrations in support of a terrorist organization is completely different.

You might have been born and brought up in the UK, but for us outsiders, when we apply for a UK visa, there’s an entire section on terrorism. We have to take an oath and make a declaration that no support or allegiance will ever be shown to groups that the British government classifies as terrorist organizations.
 
Champ_Pal said:
They don’t get it. Once someone resorts to violence to put their view forward, they are no better than Terrorist Hamas. 🙄
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Yeah...once govt ban an organization under the pretext of terrorism...you cannot show any support at them. Not surprising though showing the support here from usual suspects.

The only option people have is if the MPs of their constituency debates against govt in parliament and ask them to change their mind. That is the only way in a democracy.
 
Rajdeep said:
Boat crossers are asylum seekers, and the government gives them shelter as refugees. People protesting against this are simply exercising their democratic right — especially since it’s taxpayers’ money being used to support them.

But comparing these protests to demonstrations in support of a terrorist organization is completely different.

You might have been born and brought up in the UK, but for us outsiders, when we apply for a UK visa, there’s an entire section on terrorism. We have to take an oath and make a declaration that no support or allegiance will ever be shown to groups that the British government classifies as terrorist organizations.
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Most countries before granting residency or citizenship have oaths that say that they will put the country and its interests first before anything else. I’m sure no one follows it.
 
Rajdeep said:
British govt sees both as terrorist organization and anyone cheering for them will get arrested. Not sure what is so difficult to understand. No one is stopping people from protesting for Palestinian people...that is their democratic right.
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I agreed with you. Did you miss that part? But seriously, if you think the two are on the same level, you should get your head checked.
 
I believe Rajdeep lives in London.

He is a toxic sanghi online but I am guessing he is a friendly head-nodding Indian outside. He has to be friendly outside because London has a large Muslim population and is very multicultural. :inti:inti

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Champ_Pal said:
Got it.
Protesting in peace is one thing. But becoming violent is terrible. If these people want to be violent, then they should direct it towards IDF. They don’t have the guts to go to Gaza and be violent there. So they conveniently do it in UK knowing that the government there will treat them with kid gloves.
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That’s fair.
 
sweep_shot said:
I believe Rajdeep lives in London.

He is a toxic sanghi online but I am guessing he is a friendly head-nodding Indian outside. He has to be friendly outside because London has a large Muslim population and is very multicultural. :inti:inti

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Multiculturalism is good but not sure what that has got to do with supporting terrorists. Unless you are alluding that 'large Muslim population' in London are terrorist sympathisers.

#SelfGoal

:yk
 
Varun said:
Mussolini and Hitler said the same thing, then got kerb stomped by the USA.
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This is not 1940s anymore.
China and India emerged to become nuclear military mega powers. They cannot be stopped by the US. Neither of them are small or stupid like Nazi Germany or Fascist Nippon.
 
Bhaijaan said:
This is not 1940s anymore.
China and India emerged to become nuclear military mega powers. They cannot be stopped by the US. Neither of them are small or stupid like Nazi Germany or Fascist Nippon.
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I don't know about China, but we're pretty stupid unfortunately.
 
sweep_shot said:
I believe Rajdeep lives in London.

He is a toxic sanghi online but I am guessing he is a friendly head-nodding Indian outside. He has to be friendly outside because London has a large Muslim population and is very multicultural. :inti:inti
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According to @DeadlyVenom this large muslim population is not willing to do much. :inti
 
rpant_gabba said:
huh.

I'm sure you do realize that it is not a good commentary on UK muslims
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It is largely a reflection of the demographics, Muslims are 6-8% of the population and obviously will not be the majority in protests. From my own attendance, I would say it's mainly 10-15% Muslims; it may be higher in London.

But there are also some areas where I agree that it is not a good commentary on UK muslims; many are politically inactive, and some are encouraged not to protest but to spend time on prayer instead. Many of the community leader-type Uncles will happily pose for pictures with politicians, but don't really have any input into the political process.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
It is largely a reflection of the demographics, Muslims are 6-8% of the population and obviously will not be the majority in protests. From my own attendance, I would say it's mainly 10-15% Muslims; it may be higher in London.

But there are also some areas where I agree that it is not a good commentary on UK muslims; many are politically inactive, and some are encouraged not to protest but to spend time on prayer instead. Many of the community leader-type Uncles will happily pose for pictures with politicians, but don't really have any input into the political process.
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Basically all they do is pay lip service and when rubber meets the road, they are nowhere
 
rpant_gabba said:
Basically all they do is pay lip service and when rubber meets the road, they are nowhere
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Not all Muslims. There have been plenty who have been at the protests and stand up for their rights. One factor which prevents them from speaking out is that they will be targeted first in terms of cancellation or being fired because they are Muslim and the anti-semitism claim will be thrown around. No one wants to lose their job because they have families to feed, but there are those who have even risked that.
 
Patriot said:
Not all Muslims. There have been plenty who have been at the protests and stand up for their rights. One factor which prevents them from speaking out is that they will be targeted first in terms of cancellation or being fired because they are Muslim and the anti-semitism claim will be thrown around. No one wants to lose their job because they have families to feed, but there are those who have even risked that.
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So personal interest weighs above the palestine issue even for the community which cries hoarse over the issue. I guess this can apply to nations also.
 
People will always look to their own first. You are no different. I guarantee you, if you child’s life is on the life compared to another Indian, you will save your child’s life.

I’m not sure why this is an issue and why you are being so antagonistic about it?

However, that doesn’t mean people don’t have any right to be upset over the genocide just because they care for their own safety and security. Not everyone will be vocal about it. If your point is about hypocrisy, well most people on the planet are hypocrites. I guarantee you if the same situation happened with Hindus where they would lose their jobs for vocally supporting people they cared about, most would try and keep their jobs.

It is only a few brave souls who I admire, that put their lives on the line. The rest of us are cowards.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
This group Palestine Action and those protesting in their support is mainly white liberals and hippies.

In fact the Muslim turnout at pro Palestine demos is relatively low. Most of it is white liberals. This is the type of people cops are arresting
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When the protests started out 2 years ago they were probably 90% British Muslims at the marches/protests, its interesting how over time the demographics of these marches have now changed.
 
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