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An interesting metric: The last time Pakistan reached a final or any knockout stage in an ICC event was during the 2021 and 2022 T20 World Cups.

Since 2022, Pakistan has participated in three ICC tournaments, playing a total of 14 matches, including two warm-up games against Australia and New Zealand in 2023. Additionally, two of their matches—against Ireland and Bangladesh—were washed out.

During this period, Pakistan has only managed to secure wins against Sri Lanka, the Netherlands, New Zealand (via DRS), Bangladesh, and Canada.

Apart from these, they have lost all their other matches, including warm-up games.

This results in a total of just four full wins and one DRS-assisted victory in 14 matches, translating to a win percentage between 28% and 35%, depending on whether the New Zealand win is considered legitimate.

Moreover, Pakistan has failed to defeat a single SENA (South Africa, England, New Zealand, Australia) side or India during this time, except for the controversial DRS win against New Zealand.

This is arguably Pakistan's worst-ever era in ICC tournaments. While the 2007 World Cup and the 2013 Champions Trophy were disappointing, those were isolated instances. Despite not winning many ICC events historically, Pakistan has never performed this poorly over an extended period.
 
Pakistan went to semi-final of 2021 World T20 and final of 2022 World T20. Things were looking good till that point.

I think decline started during Asia Cup 2023. After that, they seemed to have lost confidence and it snowballed from there.
 
Every top cricket nation goes through a rough phase bro.
 
sweep_shot said:
Pakistan went to semi-final of 2021 World T20 and final of 2022 World T20. Things were looking good till that point.

I think decline started during Asia Cup 2023. After that, they seemed to have lost confidence and it snowballed from there.
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Lol our last good ICC tournament was in 2021, we got handed a semi-final berth by South Africa’s incompetence. Don’t forget we had dropped a game to Zimbabwe of all teams earlier in the group stages.

But yes we completely disintegrated since the Asia Cup 2023. The players completely lost all confidence and are still searching for it somewhere.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Lol our last good ICC tournament was in 2021, we got handed a semi-final berth by South Africa’s incompetence. Don’t forget we had dropped a game to Zimbabwe of all teams earlier in the group stages.

But yes we completely disintegrated since the Asia Cup 2023. The players completely lost all confidence and are still searching for it somewhere.
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I don't think their 2022 World T20 performance should be dismissed as a fluke. Pakistan still had to defeat South Africa in group stage and NZ in semi-final. They were also competitive in the final.
 
Yes, Pakistan's performance can be considered a blip for a team that's been otherwise consistent since the last 15 years

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mominsaigol said:
An interesting metric: The last time Pakistan reached a final or any knockout stage in an ICC event was during the 2021 and 2022 T20 World Cups.

Since 2022, Pakistan has participated in three ICC tournaments, playing a total of 14 matches, including two warm-up games against Australia and New Zealand in 2023. Additionally, two of their matches—against Ireland and Bangladesh—were washed out.

During this period, Pakistan has only managed to secure wins against Sri Lanka, the Netherlands, New Zealand (via DRS), Bangladesh, and Canada.

Apart from these, they have lost all their other matches, including warm-up games.

This results in a total of just four full wins and one DRS-assisted victory in 14 matches, translating to a win percentage between 28% and 35%, depending on whether the New Zealand win is considered legitimate.

Moreover, Pakistan has failed to defeat a single SENA (South Africa, England, New Zealand, Australia) side or India during this time, except for the controversial DRS win against New Zealand.

This is arguably Pakistan's worst-ever era in ICC tournaments. While the 2007 World Cup and the 2013 Champions Trophy were disappointing, those were isolated instances. Despite not winning many ICC events historically, Pakistan has never performed this poorly over an extended period.
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One thing that should worry PCB and government more than anything is the yearly payment. That will get a cut after 2027 as ICC will reevaluate the money distribution percentage as a consequence of teams performances in the last (2023/4 - 2027) cycle.

That will put a massive dent to Pakistan Cricket as government doesn't grant PCB anything and right now essentially ICC is making sure Pakistan Cricket is afloat.
 
Devadwal said:
Are we celebrating 2022 World T20?

How was the Pakistan 2024 world T20 where they even lost against mighty USA . Anyways pakistan is always lost against USA in any field.

How's the Pakistan 2025 champion trophy at home ? It was winless and embarassing

:kp
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No, just pointing out that an Indian fan shouldn't wax lyrical about 2022 considering the battering India got in the semi-final. :kp
 
sweep_shot said:
Pakistan went to semi-final of 2021 World T20 and final of 2022 World T20. Things were looking good till that point.

I think decline started during Asia Cup 2023. After that, they seemed to have lost confidence and it snowballed from there.
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You know why? Hasan and Shaheen were acting over smart
Dancing at the border
And showing off about one fluke win they have had in years vs india

Deserved karma for going overboard.

Stay humble
 
Devadwal said:
Acha . We have betan you in 2022 world T20 aswell .yad to hoga na ?

Btw have you recovered from March 9 indian victory ? You seem to be very hurting after March final .

:kp
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And how far did that get you?

I'm doing just fine. Unlike you, my entire existence on this thread doesn't revolve around making troll comments about one specific team.
 
Congratulations @shah9425 @PakEngFan

We went from winning in 2017 and beating both finalists in 2019 to losing vs Afghanistan, Zimbabwe and the US just in the span of 5 years.

Unfortunately it seems as though Naqvi has accepted the demise of Pakistan cricket and is allowing Rizwan and his gang of 4 to peck at it's carcass like the vultures they are
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
And how far did that get you?

I'm doing just fine. Unlike you, my entire existence on this thread doesn't revolve around making troll comments about one specific team.
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Who started talking about india in pakistan performance thread?

Op talk about Pakistan dismiss record since 2022 world T20 and i replied that Pakistan 2022 world T20 performance was nothing as they had already lost against india and Zimbabwe but Netherlands saved them from humiliation.

Now say who is obsessed with india / pakistan

:kp
 
Devadwal said:
Who started talking about india in pakistan performance thread?

Op talk about Pakistan dismiss record since 2022 world T20 and i replied that Pakistan 2022 world T20 performance was nothing as they had already lost against india and Zimbabwe but Netherlands saved them from humiliation.

Now say who is obsessed with india / pakistan

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I am merely pointing out how troll-worthy your comment is. A team that made the final of an ICC tournament made it based on nothing? If it was so easy to make the final, why didn't India make it? This is like me saying New Zealand making the 2021 WT20 final was nothing because they lost to Pakistan.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I am merely pointing out how troll-worthy your comment is. A team that made the final of an ICC tournament made it based on nothing? If it was so easy to make the final, why didn't India make it? This is like me saying New Zealand making the 2021 WT20 final was nothing because they lost to Pakistan.
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I think engaging with these people can lower one's IQ. :inti
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I am merely pointing out how troll-worthy your comment is. A team that made the final of an ICC tournament made it based on nothing? If it was so easy to make the final, why didn't India make it? This is like me saying New Zealand making the 2021 WT20 final was nothing because they lost to Pakistan.
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Lol usman Chanda already made same point and its a real facts but you're still hurting because india Win Back to back trophy so can't see the reality .

NZ qualified for the semi-final at own performance and not dependent on Kudrat ka Nizam like Pakistan.

Pakistan had lost 2 game's in groups stage that includes a loss against minnow team.

Don't worry ,they way Pakistan team players are performing now , pakistan is not going to Play any other final atleast in next 5 year's.

You should be ready for this humiliation while we are going to win 2-3 ICC trophy in same next 5 year's.


:kp
 
Devadwal said:
Lol usman Chanda already made same point and its a real facts but you're still hurting because india Win Back to back trophy so can't see the reality .

NZ qualified for the semi-final at own performance and not dependent on Kudrat ka Nizam like Pakistan.

Pakistan had lost 2 game's in groups stage that includes a loss against minnow team.

Don't worry ,they way Pakistan team players are performing now , pakistan is not going to Play any other final atleast in next 5 year's.

You should be ready for this humiliation while we are going to win 2-3 ICC trophy in same next 5 year's.


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^This is all I got from your reply
 
sweep_shot said:
Pakistan went to semi-final of 2021 World T20 and final of 2022 World T20. Things were looking good till that point.

I think decline started during Asia Cup 2023. After that, they seemed to have lost confidence and it snowballed from there.
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Pakistan played like true champions in World T20 2021. That is the best I have seen them play for a long time.

This continued even during Asia Cup T20 2022 where even though they were not as good as WT20 2021 but still pretty good.

However they were rubbish in WT20 2022 by losing against India from very winnable position and also losing against mighty Zimbabwe. They only reached finals because SA and Temba Bavuma choked against Netherlands.

But you are right in saying that their real decline started from Asia Cup 2023, especially from that India game.

:kp
 
sweep_shot said:
I don't think their 2022 World T20 performance should be dismissed as a fluke. Pakistan still had to defeat South Africa in group stage and NZ in semi-final. They were also competitive in the final.
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It was a fluke, SA group stage win was due to rain. Icc had a brain fade that day and the drs rules for sa were damn near impossible to chase down. I believe they had to chase like 100 in 8 overs lol which made zero sense.

NZ was their only genuine victory other then Netherlands. They got extremely extremely lucky lol.
 
CerebralPatriot said:
Congratulations @shah9425 @PakEngFan

We went from winning in 2017 and beating both finalists in 2019 to losing vs Afghanistan, Zimbabwe and the US just in the span of 5 years.

Unfortunately it seems as though Naqvi has accepted the demise of Pakistan cricket and is allowing Rizwan and his gang of 4 to peck at it's carcass like the vultures they are
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Pakengfan is khyberlion now, just so you know.
 
Devadwal said:
Pakistan 2022 World T20 performance was a nothing.

They lost to INDIA and Zimbabwe in group stages but Netherlands win over South Africa was the reason why they made to The semifinal

:kp
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I agree with you even if the comment was made out of malice.

SA win was a drs fluke, Netherlands was the only genuine victory and NZ vs Pak was one of those bad days for NZ.
 
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Rajdeep said:
Pakistan played like true champions in World T20 2021. That is the best I have seen them play for a long time.

This continued even during Asia Cup T20 2022 where even though they were not as good as WT20 2021 but still pretty good.

However they were rubbish in WT20 2022 by losing against India from very winnable position and also losing against mighty Zimbabwe. They only reached finals because SA and Temba Bavuma choked against Netherlands.

But you are right in saying that their real decline started from Asia Cup 2023, especially from that India game.

:kp
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They lucked out big time.

Sa victory was due to drs. Icc made the rules stupidly hard for SA to chase down. 100 runs in 8 overs lol.

And NZ had a bad day.

However 2022 t20 wc still had good bowling. The bowling choked yes, but the bowling was good enough to trouble all teams.

They troubled India, Bangladesh, Netherlands, Sa, NZ and England.

So even if it was a fluke they were competitive from bowling ends.

2023, 2024 and 2025 it seems like these bowlers have forgotten how to bowl. They've gained weight as well
 
Zim Bangladesh and afghanistan have played too many associates to be counted honestly. Afghanistan's W/L drops dramatically when you filter out the associates and minnows. Same case for Pakistan.
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Yes, Pakistan's performance can be considered a blip for a team that's been otherwise consistent since the last 15 years

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I have said it many times before...I will say it again..

1. Pakistani cricket is yet to recover from the shellacking they got in the Asia cup Super 4 game in Colombo. They haven't looked the same since then..

2. Babar Azam is yet to recover from that hooping in-decker from Pandya that cleaned up his stumps. He hasn't looked the same since then (hasn't scored an Int'l hundred since).

3. Shaheen Afridi is yet to recover from the bashing he got from Shubman Gill on that day and then later again at the death. He hasn't looked the same since then.


I said the same at that time that it would take a lot of time for the mentally weak Pakistan outfit to come out from that trauma but a few individuals got triggered and threw their toys out the pram.

But to be honest, even I didn't think the PTSD would last this long. :inti
 
Mesozoic said:
I have said it many times before...I will say it again..

1. Pakistani cricket is yet to recover from the shellacking they got in the Asia cup Super 4 game in Colombo. They haven't looked the same since then..

2. Babar Azam is yet to recover from that hooping in-decker from Pandya that cleaned up his stumps. He hasn't looked the same since then (hasn't scored an Int'l hundred since).

3. Shaheen Afridi is yet to recover from the bashing he got from Shubman Gill on that day and then later again at the death. He hasn't looked the same since then.


I said the same at that time that it would take a lot of time for the mentally weak Pakistan outfit to come out from that trauma but a few individuals got triggered and threw their toys out the pram.

But to be honest, even I didn't think the PTSD would last this long. :inti
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I Made a thread about that humiliating defeat and that thread still valid :kp
 
Mesozoic said:
I have said it many times before...I will say it again..

1. Pakistani cricket is yet to recover from the shellacking they got in the Asia cup Super 4 game in Colombo. They haven't looked the same since then..

2. Babar Azam is yet to recover from that hooping in-decker from Pandya that cleaned up his stumps. He hasn't looked the same since then (hasn't scored an Int'l hundred since).

3. Shaheen Afridi is yet to recover from the bashing he got from Shubman Gill on that day and then later again at the death. He hasn't looked the same since then.


I said the same at that time that it would take a lot of time for the mentally weak Pakistan outfit to come out from that trauma but a few individuals got triggered and threw their toys out the pram.

But to be honest, even I didn't think the PTSD would last this long. :inti
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Shaheen is a superstar, he doesn't care about a tulla like Gill who has one shot through midwicket and nothing else. A choker and a B/C string basher like Gill isn't worthy to tie Shaheen's shoelaces lol.
 
Mesozoic said:
I have said it many times before...I will say it again..

1. Pakistani cricket is yet to recover from the shellacking they got in the Asia cup Super 4 game in Colombo. They haven't looked the same since then..

2. Babar Azam is yet to recover from that hooping in-decker from Pandya that cleaned up his stumps. He hasn't looked the same since then (hasn't scored an Int'l hundred since).

3. Shaheen Afridi is yet to recover from the bashing he got from Shubman Gill on that day and then later again at the death. He hasn't looked the same since then.


I said the same at that time that it would take a lot of time for the mentally weak Pakistan outfit to come out from that trauma but a few individuals got triggered and threw their toys out the pram.

But to be honest, even I didn't think the PTSD would last this long. :inti
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It has nothing to do with PTSD lol. If I dia hadn't exposed Pakistan, Australia would have. If Australia didn't expose Pakistan, New Zealand would have, if nz didn't expose Pakistan south africa would have, if sa didn't then England would have.

If anyone bothered watching the NZ vs Pak series, you'd instantly realise how weak Pakistan truly was.

They were playing a c team NZ yet without Fakhar Zaman they'd have lost 3-2 in their own soil.

In that series, Rauf was still a run machine, Shaheen was bowling toothless pies once his initial inswing opening spell ended, babar flunked all his games except for one where he scored a 100.

However the bowling was so bad and the pitch was so easy, that it's a wonder why he disnt score more considering rubbish players like chacha scored pretty easily as well.

Rizwan was total rubbish in that series as always. Naseem was the only one going through a purple patch.

@Rana Wrote an article about this long long before you or anyone else made a thread. He highlighted all this out and how the bubble was seconds away from bursting, the only question was which team would have done it.

The cake nonsense + lack of fitness + Naseem's near injury in the 5th odi vs NZ + how poor Pakistan were even against Nepal where they lost 4 wickets for 100 and babar capitalised in pindi etc

It was always going to collapse.

It has nothing to do with Indian PTSD and everything to do with fraudulent marketing delusions which any top side would have eventually put Pakistan in its place.

India just happened to be the one to do it first. The team was always weak lol.

Theirs no ptsd narrative. The ptsd narrative that you're referring to applies to England atm where their headed back to the stone ages after their 2016-2019 revival and once again a world cup in India + the series vs India where India was once again the team that just happened to burst that bubble, but if not India, Australia would have done it like they did in CT.
 
CerebralPatriot said:
Congratulations @shah9425 @PakEngFan

We went from winning in 2017 and beating both finalists in 2019 to losing vs Afghanistan, Zimbabwe and the US just in the span of 5 years.

Unfortunately it seems as though Naqvi has accepted the demise of Pakistan cricket and is allowing Rizwan and his gang of 4 to peck at it's carcass like the vultures they are
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Also quote thrashing from West Indies we got in first match from 2019 from which they never recovered :yawn
 
People as usual mixing formats. Pak has been pathetic for a long time in ODI's.
Bowlers do not have the fitness/stamina for 10 overs (yes, that is really pathetic but the truth).

Pak had it in them to won the 2 T20WCs in UAE/Aus but dropped the ball big time. Poor team selection and the so called king not delivering when it actually mattered.
 
Don’t see why the 2022 is being discredited. You need luck to progress in big tournaments. South Africa bottling it, and Pakistan taking advantage of it and reaching the final , beating South Africa and New Zealand along the way should not be taken lightly. Yes they lost to Zimbabwe but ultimately did not mean much . They also performed well in the final.
 
mominsaigol said:
An interesting metric: The last time Pakistan reached a final or any knockout stage in an ICC event was during the 2021 and 2022 T20 World Cups.

Since 2022, Pakistan has participated in three ICC tournaments, playing a total of 14 matches, including two warm-up games against Australia and New Zealand in 2023. Additionally, two of their matches—against Ireland and Bangladesh—were washed out.

During this period, Pakistan has only managed to secure wins against Sri Lanka, the Netherlands, New Zealand (via DRS), Bangladesh, and Canada.

Apart from these, they have lost all their other matches, including warm-up games.

This results in a total of just four full wins and one DRS-assisted victory in 14 matches, translating to a win percentage between 28% and 35%, depending on whether the New Zealand win is considered legitimate.

Moreover, Pakistan has failed to defeat a single SENA (South Africa, England, New Zealand, Australia) side or India during this time, except for the controversial DRS win against New Zealand.

This is arguably Pakistan's worst-ever era in ICC tournaments. While the 2007 World Cup and the 2013 Champions Trophy were disappointing, those were isolated instances. Despite not winning many ICC events historically, Pakistan has never performed this poorly over an extended period.
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Bro, when did we beat NZ via DRS? Did we appeal?
 
Even in the 2022 T20 WC, we were lucky that Holland beat SA otherwise we were looking at an early exit in that tournament as well.
 
mominsaigol said:
It has nothing to do with PTSD lol. If I dia hadn't exposed Pakistan, Australia would have. If Australia didn't expose Pakistan, New Zealand would have, if nz didn't expose Pakistan south africa would have, if sa didn't then England would have.

If anyone bothered watching the NZ vs Pak series, you'd instantly realise how weak Pakistan truly was.

They were playing a c team NZ yet without Fakhar Zaman they'd have lost 3-2 in their own soil.

In that series, Rauf was still a run machine, Shaheen was bowling toothless pies once his initial inswing opening spell ended, babar flunked all his games except for one where he scored a 100.

However the bowling was so bad and the pitch was so easy, that it's a wonder why he disnt score more considering rubbish players like chacha scored pretty easily as well.

Rizwan was total rubbish in that series as always. Naseem was the only one going through a purple patch.

@Rana Wrote an article about this long long before you or anyone else made a thread. He highlighted all this out and how the bubble was seconds away from bursting, the only question was which team would have done it.

The cake nonsense + lack of fitness + Naseem's near injury in the 5th odi vs NZ + how poor Pakistan were even against Nepal where they lost 4 wickets for 100 and babar capitalised in pindi etc

It was always going to collapse.

It has nothing to do with Indian PTSD and everything to do with fraudulent marketing delusions which any top side would have eventually put Pakistan in its place.

India just happened to be the one to do it first. The team was always weak lol.

Theirs no ptsd narrative. The ptsd narrative that you're referring to applies to England atm where their headed back to the stone ages after their 2016-2019 revival and once again a world cup in India + the series vs India where India was once again the team that just happened to burst that bubble, but if not India, Australia would have done it like they did in CT.
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The PCB had over marketed the Pakistani teams number one ODI ranking leading into the Asia Cup in 2023 but the dark reality the rankings ignored is that Pakistan had mostly been playing minnows with their full strength team or B, C Australia, NZ teams. What happened in the Asia Cup in 2023 and the ICC ODI WC in 2023 was that all the teams bought their A game and players and the over rated Pakistani trio of Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Shadab, Rauf, Hasan Ali got brutally exposed
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Shaheen is a superstar, he doesn't care about a tulla like Gill who has one shot through midwicket and nothing else. A choker and a B/C string basher like Gill isn't worthy to tie Shaheen's shoelaces lol.
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Gill has won both ACC and ICC trophy.

Shaheen has neither.
 
CAN YOU GUYS STAY ON TOPIC INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT IELTS AND ENGLISH LANGUAGE AND PERSONAL REMARKS????
 
Mesozoic said:
I have said it many times before...I will say it again..

1. Pakistani cricket is yet to recover from the shellacking they got in the Asia cup Super 4 game in Colombo. They haven't looked the same since then..

2. Babar Azam is yet to recover from that hooping in-decker from Pandya that cleaned up his stumps. He hasn't looked the same since then (hasn't scored an Int'l hundred since).

3. Shaheen Afridi is yet to recover from the bashing he got from Shubman Gill on that day and then later again at the death. He hasn't looked the same since then.


I said the same at that time that it would take a lot of time for the mentally weak Pakistan outfit to come out from that trauma but a few individuals got triggered and threw their toys out the pram.

But to be honest, even I didn't think the PTSD would last this long. :inti
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I don’t think it was the Asia cup alone, it was the epic Melbourne shellacking in the final overs of the match + the Asia cup mauling by the top 4 which did the Pak team in. I remember the narrative right before that Asia cup, where the Pak team and media were proudly strutting their no. 1 rank & then that match happened when Shaheen got phainty of a lifetime & Naseem got injured.

Since then Pak team looks like a zombie especially against India. They are mentally scarred now.
 
Mockingbird said:
I don’t think it was the Asia cup alone, it was the epic Melbourne shellacking in the final overs of the match + the Asia cup mauling by the top 4 which did the Pak team in. I remember the narrative right before that Asia cup, where the Pak team and media were proudly strutting their no. 1 rank & then that match happened when Shaheen got phainty of a lifetime & Naseem got injured.

Since then Pak team looks like a zombie especially against India. They are mentally scarred now.
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Lol someone on Twitter was saying Shaheen going to run through Indian top order in Ahmedabad and there was nothing Indians could do about it lol.
 
Given the kind of team Pakistan has, I would still call it overachieving. 2022 Final appearance alone makes up for all the disappointments.
 
Yes Pak has had 3 bad tourneys in a row, but there are worse teams.

I believe 2023 WC was not so bad a performance given the huge liabilities the team was carrying in Shadab and Rauf. They ended up 4-5 in 9 matches and were one umpires call away from beating SA.

England and West Indies are both arguably worse than them results wise across these 3 tournaments.
 
pratiktc said:
Yes Pak has had 3 bad tourneys in a row, but there are worse teams.

I believe 2023 WC was not so bad a performance given the huge liabilities the team was carrying in Shadab and Rauf. They ended up 4-5 in 9 matches and were one umpires call away from beating SA.

England and West Indies are both arguably worse than them results wise across these 3 tournaments.
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England made the 24 semi though
 
Pak cricket seems to have developed a weird karmic relationship with the collective shenanigans of its fans ever since CT 2017. Whenever expectations are raised, hopes inevitably crash. The players who are hyped to the moon often turn out to be either exposed or a disappointment. I remember the hype around Pakistan’s pace attack—Hasan, Shaheen, Rumman, and Shinwari—before the 2018 Asia Cup, only for Rohit and Dhawan to dismantle them. Then, after COVID, the obsession with Babar reached almost ridiculous levels, and the results are right there for everyone to see.

I really find this one minute delusion next minute reality check cycle fascinating.
 
saimayubera said:
Shaheen "owned" Indian top order only once.

Indian top order has "owned" Shaheen multiple times (AC 18, AC 23, WC 23, CT 25).
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And he mocked indian player's dismissal in next game against NZ or any other team few day later, after that His downfall has been started.

:kp
 
This has to be one of the worst, if not THE worst phase for Pakistan cricket. Losing a heavy % of games, across all formats, against associates.

This poor phase coincides directly with an increase in media/stardom ratings for Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Naseem et al. What does that tell you? It's all political topi drama.
 
PCB should end player agents which has deluded these fake stars into false stardom. Cricket is a secondary consideration for today’s Pakistani players. It’s all about marketing their rate domestic products and posing in weird posses to model for some brands. No time for domestic cricket to improve skills. PCB bears responsibility because it has hyped these fake stars and forced fans to buy into this hype.
 
saimayubera said:
Yeah. :ROFLMAO:

India made 266 and would have bundled out Pak for max 150 odd that match.
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lol just because Kohli and Rohit were embarrassed by Eagle as usual and tulla like Kishan and Pandya fluked some runs don't think Pak with prime Rizbar, Fakhar would have been all out for 150 LOL
 
Hardik Pandya bowling average against Pakistan is 12 ( T20 )

M - 6. W - 13 ,strike rate -9.9 and Eco -7.2

ODI

Average -24
Strike rate - 29

Hardik is better bowler than Shaheen .

We are not even talking about Hardik batting

:kp

RizwanT20Champ said:
SSA averages 29 in ODIs vs India. That's ownage considering the flat tracks they played on.
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I don't think anything over 6 is a good stats for a leader of the attack, so basically he goes for lots of runs and his impact is very minimal against us.
 
Mesozoic said:
I have said it many times before...I will say it again..

1. Pakistani cricket is yet to recover from the shellacking they got in the Asia cup Super 4 game in Colombo. They haven't looked the same since then..

2. Babar Azam is yet to recover from that hooping in-decker from Pandya that cleaned up his stumps. He hasn't looked the same since then (hasn't scored an Int'l hundred since).

3. Shaheen Afridi is yet to recover from the bashing he got from Shubman Gill on that day and then later again at the death. He hasn't looked the same since then.


I said the same at that time that it would take a lot of time for the mentally weak Pakistan outfit to come out from that trauma but a few individuals got triggered and threw their toys out the pram.

But to be honest, even I didn't think the PTSD would last this long. :inti
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What wonders were they performing prior to that Asia Cup ?

Pakistan's ODI record vs top teams since 2009 has been shocking.

The T20 side has been declining since 2019 when Sri Lanka C whitewashed us 0-3 at home.

The less said about the Test team since 2017 the better.

Attributing it to one day or one match is just needling and not a serious analysis. It's a low skill, weak mentality team in an unprofessional structure with unstable leadership. End of.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
lol just because Kohli and Rohit were embarrassed by Eagle as usual and tulla like Kishan and Pandya fluked some runs don't think Pak with prime Rizbar, Fakhar would have been all out for 150 LOL
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That same team got out for 120 odd on a flatter pitch a week later.

Post Kuldeep's debut Pakistan has never scored 250+ against India. The CT 25 240 odd was the highest I think.
 
That 2023 AC first game would have ended up like the 2024 T20 WC game.

Pakistan would have failed to chase a small target on a spicy pitch and their fast bowling performance aided by the pitch would be forgotten.

Because it ended in a NR, a few Pakistanis use it as cope (I have seen people with headers of that match on twitter lol).

Imagine how bad your cricket is that a NR is a cherished match lol.
 
saimayubera said:
That 2023 AC first game would have ended up like the 2024 T20 WC game.

Pakistan would have failed to chase a small target on a spicy pitch and their fast bowling performance aided by the pitch would be forgotten.

Because it ended in a NR, a few Pakistanis use it as cope (I have seen people with headers of that match on twitter lol).

Imagine how bad your cricket is that a NR is a cherished match lol.
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Rohit tulla was exposed by Shaheen. Nothing wrong with that. Aamer did it too.
 
Nobody is questioning Naqvi and his policies here... Pakistan cricket has been rocking the stage from the bottom for years now and we are not putting an end to this management. Dismal state is gonna continue and there is nothing we can do about it
 
saimayubera said:
No exposure happened. Rohit won that AC

Rohit has 4 ICC titles which is more than the entire nation of Pakistan.
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4?? He has 2? Asia cup isn't an icc title? Or are you referring to him as a player too and not just captain? And counting 2011 and 2013?
 
mominsaigol said:
4?? He has 2? Asia cup isn't an icc title? Or are you referring to him as a player too and not just captain? And counting 2011 and 2013?
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With that being said @saimayubera I respect rohit alot as a captain. I respected him even when people had given up on him due to some curse.

He's clearly a gun whiteball captain but he's poor in tests though. Bumrah captained better then he did, but I can understand why giving Bumrah test captaincy is suicide. He's too injury prone to actually play every single test throughout the year + all formats. He needs rest.

Bumrah should remain vc but then who's gonna captain for test in India? Gill isn't suited for red ball captaincy
 
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