A selfish innings from Hashim Amla in the 1st ODI?

[Bhaijaan]

lolz Whateevr it was but was a slefish innings.Not taking away any credit from the legend,India could afford a loss for his services.

It wasn't.

He was authorized by team management to ensure he gets the hundred.

He had no point even playing that tournament. Getting that elusive 100th 100 was the only reason he was taken to Bangladesh for and like a true legend he got it done with in the first match itself. Job well done.

Greatest of all time

 

[someone21]

On surface, very selfish.

But can we have more stats? Like how many balls for 0-10, 10-50, 50-90, 90-100?? How did he progress his own innings??

 

[Saffer_XIII]

Amla used to get away with this type of innings when AB would come in and blitz it. But today was the worst I've ever seen.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Still can't forget Sachin's shameless 100th 100. Ended up losing to Bangladesh lol

 

[DRsohail]

It wasn't.

He was authorized by team management to ensure he gets the hundred.

He had no point even playing that tournament. Getting that elusive 100th 100 was the only reason he was taken to Bangladesh for and like a true legend he got it done with in the first match itself. Job well done.

Greatest of all time

So he was playing for his hundred.Was selfish to say the least.

 

[Buffet]

On surface, very selfish.

But can we have more stats? Like how many balls for 0-10, 10-50, 50-90, 90-100?? How did he progress his own innings??

190/1 after 40 overs - In the last 10 overs he scored 28 runs in 26 balls. SA ended with with just 2 wicket down and Amla ended with his ton.

 

[Snowflake]

You do not need both teams to bat to know that 28 from 26 in the last 10 overs is very poor! This was a selfish innings, period.

They were 190/1 for God's sake! That tells you there's nothing wrong with the pitch either.

 

[Bhaijaan]

So he was playing for his hundred.Was selfish to say the least.

At team managements command.

Team man!

 

[troodon]

That innings reminded me of Dhoni’s selfish innings.

Luckily for India, the total was not that big.

Amla deserves to be axed after that horror innings. He made the batting look difficult on a decent pitch. A team like England would have score 320 easily.

 

[Buffet]

You do not need both teams to bat to know that 28 from 26 in the last 10 overs is very poor!

They were 190/1 for God's sake!

+1

I found comments about waiting for both teams to bat puzzling. Pakistan could have been bowled out for 150, but not showing intent with 190/1 was not acceptable.

 

[Saj]

The look in the dressing room from some of the players and management showed that they weren't happy with Amla's innings.

 

[CricFan2012]

Out of form, flat pitch, minnow opposition. Why take unnecessary risks? He did the right thing by playing for himself - with his career coming to a close and the World Cup coming up, this may be the easiest hundred he will ever score from now until his retirement.

Pakistani bowling isn't minnow bowling, it's in the top 5 at least.

 

[DRsohail]

At team managements command.

Team man!

Lolz sugar coated words ....

 

[boomboomcheema]

Amla fans hoping Pakistan would lose so that they can claim how important and tough knock Amla played.

 

[Mamoon]

Pakistani bowling isn't minnow bowling, it's in the top 5 at least.

Maybe top 5 in some associate league. Faheem Ashraf opened the bowling with his 125 kph pies and we took 2 wickets in 50 overs.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] what did I say brother? Pakistan batting is capable of chasing 270 odd score. Hence, Amla's innings was very poor in the context of the game. This pitch is not that bad for shot making. The position SA were in (190/1 with 10 overs to go), Amla should have up the ante and tried for a 300 type score.

 

[Napa]

People are missing an important point in their criticism of Amla. He scored 108 @90. The remaining SA batsmen scored 154 @85.5.

How did that happen? Though he opened Amla played on 40% of the balls (120 out of 300). He was taking singles early in the over.

Can't criticize a batsman who scores a century at a higher S/R than the rest of the batsmen combined.

 

[happydavy]

It was similar to rahane's t20 inning against West Indies in semis in last WC. Even after 12-13 overs when India was 1 down, he was preserving his wicket. Eventually India scored 190 odd for 2/3 wkts down which is just not right. If u r 2/3 down at completion of inning then u shud be 200+ in t20 and 300+ in ODIs.

 

[leatherface58]

Looks like a horrible innings in hindsight. But he got his average above 50 so its all cool right?

 

[Mamoon]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] what did I say brother? Pakistan batting is capable of chasing 270 odd score. Hence, Amla's innings was very poor in the context of the game. This pitch is not that bad for shot making. The position SA were in (190/1 with 10 overs to go), Amla should have up the ante and tried for a 300 type score.

Blame goes to the South African bowlers. If you cannot defend 260 against this lineup, you really need to improve. South African batsmen set the game up today, 260 would be more than enough for us 8 out of 10 times.

Their bowlers had an off-day. They will bounce back.

 

[iRfaN_LA]

Amla is under massive fire today. Everyone going after him.

 

[leg-side-flick]

This knock reminds me of RAHANE in T20 semi final against WI in Bombay

 

[Varun]

In this day and age, if you face 120 balls you better score more than 108 unless it's a situation where wickets are falling all around you from start to finish.

Which in this case it's not: only 2 wickets fell through the 50 overs for South Africa. One of them being the debutante being forced to accelerate because of Amla's nonchalance, ceding his own century in the process.

 

[bluevision]

Pakistani batsmen are trying hard to justify Amla's innings though.

 

[MRSN]

Looks like a horrible innings in hindsight. But he got his average above 50 so its all cool right?

Knocks like these stays in the minds for eternity. Even Misbah averaged in the 40s but everyone knew how useless his runs were at the end of the day. Amla should be thankful for AB's class who was always hiding his selfish knocks.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Not just Amla. I can never understand thought process of players showing absolutely no intent at crucial times. If it were Rohit sharma ic an understand. He can absolutely go nuts even in the last 5 overs and make up for it. Amla? It was a ridiculous innings.

 

[boomboomcheema]

What a loserish knock Amla played. Must retire asap.

 

[MRSN]

Thank you Amla

 

[BreadPakoda]

People are missing an important point in their criticism of Amla. He scored 108 @90. The remaining SA batsmen scored 154 @85.5.

How did that happen? Though he opened Amla played on 40% of the balls (120 out of 300). He was taking singles early in the over.

Can't criticize a batsman who scores a century at a higher S/R than the rest of the batsmen combined.

Its the set batsman's duty to accelerate. A new batsman can find it tough to adjust to the pitch.

 

[MRSN]

Blame goes to the South African bowlers. If you cannot defend 260 against this lineup, you really need to improve. South African batsmen set the game up today, 260 would be more than enough for us 8 out of 10 times.

Their bowlers had an off-day. They will bounce back.

260 is too little to defend for a SA side filled with quota players on this surface.

 

[moghul]

Thanks Mr. Amla, you played like our hero Misbah today. He used to play for draw in ODI, his "best" was in 2011 semifinal.

 

[MRSN]

Thanks Mr. Amla, you played like our hero Misbah today. He used to play for draw in ODI, his "best" was in 2011 semifinal.

Yeah watching him bat today reminded me of good old days of Misbah.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Called it in the thread, South Africa's batting was diabolical to say the least. Not just Amla, this van der Dussen was a dud and a few tullay at the end saved his SR.

Imam out-performed both by a country mile

 

[sam_ahm]

In hindsight I think I will change my mind and I do agree that Hashim and both the other batsmen too played a little too slow. May be yes, Hashim may have desperately wanted to get a century, such are the expectations on him that people count the number of innings since he last scored a hundred... So even if he gets a 50-60, it is still like 'his last century was more than a year ago' surely puts pressure even on the best of batsmen, much like how people were obsessed with Sachin's 100th 100.

Still to his credit, Hash was taking singles, rotating the strike, like he always does as per his role, but today there was no Quinton de Kock or AB de villiers or Faf du plessis at the other end to score quickly.

Having said all that the score would probably still have been enough for a full strength bowling line up but Pretorius, Phelukwayo, Olivier... Not enough for this attack.

 

[MenInG]

Faf du Plessis : "We could have pushed on with the bat"

Think a ref to Amla innings.

 

[Greenstorm]

Very selfish innings. Match ka mujrim.

 

[Buffet]

Amla has played many knocks like this. Many times he was saved by AB coming after him.

Hopefully, he will realize his mistake and try to do better. Not even trying hurts more.

 

[Cric1234]

Called it in the thread, South Africa's batting was diabolical to say the least. Not just Amla, this van der Dussen was a dud and a few tullay at the end saved his SR.

Imam out-performed both by a country mile

How does a similar innings outperform both by a country mile he was lucky the pitch was easy paced the target below par and the bowling attack lacking potency soon you will see his true colours.

 

[ManFan]

Sarfraz’s swift diplomacy has appeased Hashim bhai’s voracious Test form.

The former allowed the latter to score a hundred and cement his position while the latter allowed the former to maintain his position as captain.

A truly Machiavellian act of statesmanship that would make ol’ Kissinger himself blush.

 

[Usman Chadda]

How does a similar innings outperform both by a country mile he was lucky the pitch was easy paced the target below par and the bowling attack lacking potency soon you will see his true colours.

He paced his innings well during a stiff chase. Amla and van der Dussen were scratching around till the end.

 

[rhony]

Blame goes to the South African bowlers. If you cannot defend 260 against this lineup, you really need to improve. South African batsmen set the game up today, 260 would be more than enough for us 8 out of 10 times.

Their bowlers had an off-day. They will bounce back.

I think the openers set the tone and the RR was always in check. Except for Olivier, this is how SA bowls. It was good batting by Imam and then Hafeez. Pak infact gifted a couple of wickets and made it interesting.

 

[Sohaib]

I wouldn't call it a selfish innings. This is the way Amla has batted throughout his career, to hold up one end and keep cruising while other batsmen from other end scores.

Selfish, not really. Could have been alot better in terms scoring acceleration, definitely.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I wouldn't call it a selfish innings. This is the way Amla has batted throughout his career, to hold up one end and keep cruising while other batsmen from other end scores.

Selfish, not really. Could have been alot better in terms scoring acceleration, definitely.

Atleast you know how to get out at the right time lol

 

[rhony]

This knock reminds me of RAHANE in T20 semi final against WI in Bombay

He was auditioning for an ODI spot

 

[Slim]

Still can't forget Sachin's shameless 100th 100. Ended up losing to Bangladesh lol

Looks like Hashim bhai pulled a Sachin today.

 

[troodon]

Amla has played many knocks like this. Many times he was saved by AB coming after him.

Hopefully, he will realize his mistake and try to do better. Not even trying hurts more.

Loss of ABD is seriously hurting SA. I don’t see any one who can accelerate like him. Every batsman looks like an accumulator.

David Miller has seriously regressed. SA needs QDK as an opener.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

What an innings by Amla. Matchwinning for Pakistan

 

[Majid Khan]

The bottom line is SA as a team failed in their strategy here, Amla is not a big hitting batsman and just played his normal tempo which is about a run a ball in ODIs. It should have been the batsmen at the other end who should have accelerated while he held one one steadily, you don’t expect the likes of Amla or Dravid to go berserk.

But how on earth do you end up scoring 260 for 3 in a 50 overs innings, you should rather be 290 all out —- there are no bonus points for keeping wickets in hand, please correct if I’m mistaken.

 

[RobinJay]

While the strike rate may appear to be decent, the problem lies in the way he played towards the bottom end of his and his team's innings. I didn't see him making any conscious effort to try and hit the ball out of the park or risk getting out trying so that someone other than him who can actually hit gets the chance to get them beyond the 300 mark.

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

Not sure if one can blame Amlan in this instance.

He was their anchor and when one is playing that role, you expect the other to sort of pinch hit.

Having said that, in the modern game, if you face that many deliveries, your strike rate should be like 120 or so.

 

[Savak]

Lol this is how Amla plays, there is no ABD, Albie Morkel to help him out this time. David Miller himself played a very slow innings

 

[Buffet]

Not sure if one can blame Amlan in this instance.

He was their anchor and when one is playing that role, you expect the other to sort of pinch hit.

Having said that, in the modern game, if you face that many deliveries, your strike rate should be like 120 or so.

Anchor role is fine for the first 35 overs or if you lose many wickets.

There is no point in playing anchor role if team has lost just 1 wicket after 40 overs. The last 10 overs saw one more wicket and he was still anchoring till 50th overs. That's very poor from Hash.

 

[Savak]

Regardless of the results of the test series, it looks very shocking to see the lack of talent and depth in South African Cricket. The next generation seriously lack talent and quality

 

[waleed88]

Hashim Amla batted like usually how babar azam bats for us in ODIs.

 

[The Viper]

Not good from Amla, being the senior man. Was too focused on his 100. If Miller was in earlier, SAF would have easily passed 300.

 

[Varun]

Regardless of the results of the test series, it looks very shocking to see the lack of talent and depth in South African Cricket. The next generation seriously lack talent and quality

They have an endless quarry of fast bowlers.

Batting, I'm not so sure.

 

[Chokli]

Regardless of the results of the test series, it looks very shocking to see the lack of talent and depth in South African Cricket. The next generation seriously lack talent and quality

it doesn't help them when players do show potential, they go the kolpak route once they've made themselves known

 

[Ab Fan]

SA should have gone berserk after 35 overs. Go all guns blazing with no fear of losing wicket. That should have been the plan. Faf, Miller, Klasen lots of hitting yet to come.

 

[hadi123]

He's a very likeable guy but as SA lost, quite rightly, lots are pointing the finger at him. How SA only got 266 despite losing 2 wickets is bizarre and he deserves a lot of blame for that, one would think that once he was set the platform was there for him to go berserk and lead SA to a bare minimum total of 300+

 

[Bilal7]

Yes, it was a selfish innings today. Very Sachin-esque. However, credit also goes to the Pakistani bowlers for some quality death bowling.

 

[Bewal Express]

It's sad to see the great Hash struggling today. I am a big fan but it's time to call it a day.

 

[Savak]

They have an endless quarry of fast bowlers.

Batting, I'm not so sure.

I am not sure about the bowling either. It was shocking to see them play 2 bowlers bowling at 120-125 km/hr.

 

[GrandMaster]

SA should have gone berserk after 35 overs. Go all guns blazing with no fear of losing wicket. That should have been the plan. Faf, Miller, Klasen lots of hitting yet to come.

SA underestimated Pakistan. SA would have probably switched gears if the opposition would have been England or Australia but looking at Pakistan’s past history they must have thought 250+ score is above par score and no need to panick and go berserk.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Even if Hash bats in his how own way the other guys should lift the scoring rate.

It's a luxury to have one guy stay till the end to cover any misfortune or avoid a collapse.

 

[BaankeJi]

Scoring 190 for 1 after 40 overs on a batting wicket is unpardonable. It should have been 230 or 240 for 1. If you have wickets in hand, it should show up in number of runs scored. This was 320 wicket.
But as everyone is saying, SA don't have firepower in their batting.
Miller and Klaasen could do it though but they should get a chance.

 

[ManFan]

South Africa simply looked upon Pakistan as a pushover.

Some delicious humble pie was smacked on their faces courtesy a Professor virtuoso performance.

 

[latecut]

South Africa after their test series win were extremely overconfident and complacent. They were batting in second geat throughout, even in the slog overs. They were batting as if they were facing an associate nation which would not be able to chase the total. Amla in fact said so after his knock. 266 for 2 in 50 overs in 2019 ! It was a 1980s like ODI batting.

 

[jnaveen1980]

SA underestimated Pakistan. SA would have probably switched gears if the opposition would have been England or Australia but looking at Pakistan’s past history they must have thought 250+ score is above par score and no need to panick and go berserk.

I beg to differ. South african dressing room was getting restless even by 34th over. Then the message sent out. Debutant started throwing kitchen sink. Even then Amla was plodding around. Nobody underestimated Pakistan. It was one guy only one guy who singlemindedly went after his century at the expense of his team.

 

[JaDed]

Yes, it was a selfish innings today. Very Sachin-esque. However, credit also goes to the Pakistani bowlers for some quality death bowling.

Sachin's innings won him matches against Pak in WCs sorry burst your bubble though looks like your bowlers aren't as good as you thought.

 

[ManFan]

Sachin's innings won him matches against Pak in WCs sorry burst your bubble though looks like your bowlers aren't as good as you thought.

Bowlers are not the world’s greatest but they held pressure consistently throughout.

If PAK can chase 250+ than SA underscored.

Therefore, I don’t think any professional sportsmen under-performs on purpose (ethically intact, of course).

So credit must be given to the bowlers and top-order.

 

[Last Monetarist]

Love how Indian fans get triggered by mention of Tendulkar's selfish pursuit of a meaningless milestone. So loveably predictable. Apparently he was playing under team orders now. Droll.

 

[desi_launda]

Batted like Dhoni in this match

 

[JaDed]

Bowlers are not the world’s greatest but they held pressure consistently throughout.

If PAK can chase 250+ than SA underscored.

Therefore, I don’t think any professional sportsmen under-performs on purpose (ethically intact, of course).

So credit must be given to the bowlers and top-order.

Was talking about Wasim,Shoaibh,Waqar in that context.

 

[JaDed]

Love how Indian fans get triggered by mention of Tendulkar's selfish pursuit of a meaningless milestone. So loveably predictable. Apparently he was playing under team orders now. Droll.

Well his so called innings didn't let Pak win a single WC match against us, so good chance for PCT now with no Sachin your tea has a 80% chance to win it, just letting you know the stats thats all..

I'm glad Sachin was selfish so he could win for us you might want such "selfish" batsmen for your team unless you think PCT batsmen are better than Sachin right now..

 

[Indiafan]

Love how Indian fans get triggered by mention of Tendulkar's selfish pursuit of a meaningless milestone. So loveably predictable. Apparently he was playing under team orders now. Droll.

I think it's the other way around. Pakistani fans and commentator have been obsessed with sachin for decades now. There was never a moment when they would not try to bring him down any way. The number of threads on any forum including this one on How sachin is less than X Y Z player is unparalleled

Even when Pakistan was much stronger somehow sachin caused some inferiority complex in many pak fans. Most legends and experts would praise sachin but it would affect some pak fans way more

So it is funny they are talking about triggering indian fans when sachin has been living in their head rent free for decades

 

[Last Monetarist]

Well his so called innings didn't let Pak win a single WC match against us, so good chance for PCT now with no Sachin your tea has a 80% chance to win it, just letting you know the stats thats all..

I'm glad Sachin was selfish so he could win for us you might want such "selfish" batsmen for your team unless you think PCT batsmen are better than Sachin right now..

I think it's the other way around. Pakistani fans and commentator have been obsessed with sachin for decades now. There was never a moment when they would not try to bring him down any way. The number of threads on any forum including this one on How sachin is less than X Y Z player is unparalleled

Even when Pakistan was much stronger somehow sachin caused some inferiority complex in many pak fans. Most legends and experts would praise sachin but it would affect some pak fans way more

So it is funny they are talking about triggering indian fans when sachin has been living in their head rent free for decades

Shooting fish in a barrel, honestly. Relax guys, you always take it too personally. It's ok to admit that Tendulkar wasn't flawless and that the hundred hundreds circus was a debacle.

 

[pillionrider]

So it is funny they are talking about triggering indian fans when sachin has been living in their head rent free for decades

This cracked me up so good, I nearly wasted my coffee.

 

[KP From India]

Dhoni 3 years ago used to finish maches.
If you are taking matches till the end and winning 70 or more matches in 100, its fine.
Even Ind odi series in SL, MS batted atvlow SR but finished matches and we won 5-0 , also recently concluded ODI series, he finished last 2 games.
Amla is never known to finish matches.

 

[Snowflake]

It wasn't.

He was authorized by team management to ensure he gets the hundred.

He had no point even playing that tournament. Getting that elusive 100th 100 was the only reason he was taken to Bangladesh for and like a true legend he got it done with in the first match itself. Job well done.

Greatest of all time

Having authorization by team management does not make it not selfish. The innings was for a personal record, hence; selfish.

A selfish job well done.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

It was a botched attempt and I wouldn't single out Amla anyways.

The 2 batsmen who were playing reached 190-1 after 40 overs and had an excellent view of the conditions. They also knew they were playing a spinner short with Tahir the only spin option in the side.

The surface was suited to Pakistan in general, but they refused to accelerate or show intent even from 190-1 and even Shaun Pollock was frustrated and said "Do they really think they can lose 9 wickets in last 10 overs.

South Africa were clearly short of 40 runs today and I would blame both Amla and Van Dussen for complete lack of intent to score heck in the 43rd over for that matter.

They could have been forgiven if there were few wickets remaining but when you shouldn't be ending the innings on 266 for 2 , rather your innings should always end at 300-9 or 350-8 or something like that.