Aaqib Javed appointed as interim head coach of Pakistan for red-ball cricket after the resignation of Jason Gillespie

[emranabbas]

Both are better cricketers than Aqib ever was. They don’t need him but Aqib needs both to pretend that he is a good coach.

In that case, stop blaming Aqib. Instead, hold the more experienced cricketers accountable, as they've been responsible for Pakistan's losses.

Also, Aqib has complete authority on squad selection and he has selected pathetic squads so far which sums him up.

The squad is the same as it was before Aqib took over, with the only differences being that Azam Khan, Shadab, Iftikhar, Amir, Imad, and Fakhar are not in the team anymore. But Saim is performing just as well as Fakhar.

Do you really want all of them back? I thought you didn't like them!

Everything about Aqib projects mediocrity. His cricket career as well as his coaching. He is just a very average person with a very average cricketing mind. Only in Pakistan can an average person like him be put on a pedestal.

You're judging the book by its cover without fully understanding it, and that approach has often backfired on you many times. i will just wait and see how aqib's performance go before I make a judgment

 

[emranabbas]

He picked Sahibzada in the same XI as Babar and Rizwan. He is also persisting with rubbish hacks like Usman and Tayyab when they are both not good enough to play at this level.

He keeps neglecting Fakhar who is the best middle-order batsman in T20 format in Pakistan. I don’t accept this excuse that PCB doesn’t want him.

That might be somewhat true, but Aqib has a lot of influence right now and if he really wanted Fakhar, he could have negotiated with Naqvi.

usman has been in the squad before aqib took over you can't blame him for that.

tayyab has been a good addition, he had out performed Babar, Babar average 15 tayyab tahir average 30 since aqib took over

players scoring are not good enough but players who can't get double digits are the best in pakistan what sort of logic is this?

 

[emranabbas]

He picked Sahibzada in the same XI as Babar and Rizwan. He is also persisting with rubbish hacks like Usman and Tayyab when they are both not good enough to play at this level.

He keeps neglecting Fakhar who is the best middle-order batsman in T20 format in Pakistan. I don’t accept this excuse that PCB doesn’t want him.

That might be somewhat true, but Aqib has a lot of influence right now and if he really wanted Fakhar, he could have negotiated with Naqvi.

he did the right thing by dropping Fakhar, he has apposed the yaari dosti culture, we don't need player power in Pakistan cricket and players sabotaging the team like Rizwan and Babar have been doing

I'm sure he will bring Fakhar back when the time is right.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

he did the right thing by dropping Fakhar, he has apposed the yaari dosti culture, we don't need player power in Pakistan cricket and players sabotaging the team like Rizwan and Babar have been doing

I'm sure he will bring Fakhar back when the time is right.

Fakhar was simply highlighting the injustice meted out to Pakistan's greatest batsman since Inzamam. Incredible how his fans are doing bhangra over Fakhar's medicore T20 stats but will take umbrage at his justified remarks.

As for Aaqib Javed, I did say good riddance to Gillespie but Javed is utterly useless as well. Pak may need to get a cool head back like Misbah who commands respect in the dressing room.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

he did the right thing by dropping Fakhar, he has apposed the yaari dosti culture, we don't need player power in Pakistan cricket and players sabotaging the team like Rizwan and Babar have been doing

I'm sure he will bring Fakhar back when the time is right.

Oh really, and when will the time be right? Midway through the CT when Pakistan is about to be eliminated? Incase you didn't know this is Pakistan's last bilateral series before the CT.

What they did to Fakhar is pretty much the epitome of being petty, small-minded and thin-skinned. And anyone with even a couple of working brain-cells should be able to identify that.

 

[emranabbas]

Oh really, and when will the time be right? Midway through the CT when Pakistan is about to be eliminated? Incase you didn't know this is Pakistan's last bilateral series before the CT.

Is CT in Australia or South Africa? Please remind me I haveforgotten

There's a Tri Series in Pakistan in January

What they did to Fakhar is pretty much the epitome of being petty, small-minded and thin-skinned. And anyone with even a couple of working brain-cells should be able to identify that.

Don't really matter what posters like you think, you change with the wind all the time. Had a different player been dropped for the same reason you would say it's the best decision.
Posters like you have no principles.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Is CT in Australia or South Africa? Please remind me I haveforgotten

There's a Tri Series in Pakistan in January


Don't really matter what posters like you think, you change with the wind all the time. Had a different player been dropped for the same reason you would say it's the best decision.
Posters like you have no principles.

I guess you clearly don't understand the meaning of "bilateral ODI series". I'd suggest opening up a dictionary if you can't type the words up on Google.

You know the other person has nothing of substance to say, when they start resorting to personal attacks instead of addressing your point.

And yeah, when I don't care what the other person says, I always make it a point to reply to them and tell them that.

 

[emranabbas]

I guess you clearly don't understand the meaning of "bilateral ODI series". I'd suggest opening up a dictionary if you can't type the words up on Google.

You know the other person has nothing of substance to say, when they start resorting to personal attacks instead of addressing your point.

And yeah, when I don't care what the other person says, I always make it a point to reply to them and tell them that.

Seems like you clearly don't understand cricket I suggest you give up on the sport its not for its a complicated sport which you clearly don't have brains cells to understand

Fakhar is fine in Pakistan let him get used to conditions there and build confidence there and let him get in form. Btw he's doing pretty poor vs domestic b grade bowlers in home conditions would be a walking wicket in Australia and South africa.

 

[khyberlion]

usman has been in the squad before aqib took over you can't blame him for that.

tayyab has been a good addition, he had out performed Babar, Babar average 15 tayyab tahir average 30 since aqib took over

players scoring are not good enough but players who can't get double digits are the best in pakistan what sort of logic is this?

Tayyab is not a good addition he's a great addition. He's as good as butler. Tayyab butler .

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Seems like you clearly don't understand cricket I suggest you give up on the sport its not for its a complicated sport which you clearly don't have brains cells to understand

Yeah, I'm the one who doesn't understand cricket. Not the guy who doesn't even know what a bilateral series is.

Fakhar is fine in Pakistan let him get used to conditions there and build confidence there and let him get in form. Btw he's doing pretty poor vs domestic b grade bowlers in home conditions would be a walking wicket in Australia and South africa.

This is some remarkable level of ignorance for someone who tries to project themself as an expert on cricket. Since you clearly don't know this, allow me to illuminate you. Fakhar smashed two centuries in South Africa the last time Pakistan played and won a bilateral ODI series there. Which included a 193 and a century in the series decider. He was also the Man of the Series. So contrary to your assertion, he would not be a walking wicket in South Africa.

 

[emranabbas]

Yeah, I'm the one who doesn't understand cricket. Not the guy who doesn't even know what a bilateral series is.

ok i don't if it makes you sleep better at night

This is some remarkable level of ignorance for someone who tries to project themself as an expert on cricket. Since you clearly don't know this, allow me to illuminate you. Fakhar smashed two centuries in South Africa the last time Pakistan played and won a bilateral ODI series there. Which included a 193 and a century in the series decider. He was also the Man of the Series. So contrary to your assertion, he would not be a walking wicket in South Africa.

Mr. Expert, let's go with your theory. The last time Babar played a T20 in Centurion, he scored 122 off 77 balls. So, why hasn't he replicated that performance this time? According to your theory, shouldn't he be consistently smashing 122 off 77 balls whenever he plays in Centurion?


completely missed the point about factors like home conditions and player form etc.. what a joker

 

[emranabbas]

I don't understand why people keep holding on to 2021.

Yes, we beat India in 2021.
Yes, certain players scored big in 2021.

But it's time to move forward to 2024.

We've been losing Test matches consistently for three years now. We've lost nearly every T20 match this year.

But yet some still cling to the memories of 2021.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

ok i don't if it makes you sleep better at night



Mr. Expert, let's go with your theory. The last time Babar played a T20 in Centurion, he scored 122 off 77 balls. So, why hasn't he replicated that performance this time? According to your theory, shouldn't he be consistently smashing 122 off 77 balls whenever he plays in Centurion?


completely missed the point about factors like home conditions and player form etc.. what a joker

Name calling won't get you anywhere. Babar is not going anywhere and he will end up the batsman of the generation across formats .

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

I don't understand why people keep holding on to 2021.

Yes, we beat India in 2021.
Yes, certain players scored big in 2021.

But it's time to move forward to 2024.

We've been losing Test matches consistently for three years now. We've lost nearly every T20 match this year.

But yet some still cling to the memories of 2021.

How many teams have Pak beaten India in WCs? Don't downplay that win like it was nothing. Pak would have won the following 2 matches as well in WCs if not for Rauf and Imad.

 

[emranabbas]

Name calling won't get you anywhere. Babar is not going anywhere and he will end up the batsman of the generation across formats .

He needs to score runs to start of with he's not going to be a batsmen of the generation by being hyped by fans

 

[emranabbas]

How many teams have Pak beaten India in WCs? Don't downplay that win like it was nothing. Pak would have won the following 2 matches as well in WCs if not for Rauf and Imad.

It was a fluke just caught India on a bad day

 

[emranabbas]

Since 2021 Pakistan only beat India once and lost 6 times that was a big big fluke

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Since 2021 Pakistan only beat India once and lost 6 times that was a big big fluke

Melbourne 2022 was a bottle job by Rauf who should not be playing international cricket, 2024 was a bottle job by so-called finisher Imad. Pakistan would have had 3 WC wins in a row vs India if not for these 2.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

He needs to score runs to start of with he's not going to be a batsmen of the generation by being hyped by fans

31 international centuries. He averages 57 in ODIs. For comparison, Viv Richards averages 47, Sachin Tendulker averages 44 and Rohit Sharma averages 49.

 

[emranabbas]

Melbourne 2022 was a bottle job by Rauf who should not be playing international cricket, 2024 was a bottle job by so-called finisher Imad. Pakistan would have had 3 WC wins in a row vs India if not for these 2.

rizwan and babar in that 2022 game your referring to so

Batting		R	B	M	4s	6s	SR
Mohammad Rizwan †	c Kumar b Arshdeep Singh	4	12	25	1	0	33.33
Babar Azam (c)	lbw b Arshdeep Singh	0	1	10	0	0	0.00

rizwan and babar in 2024 so again

Batting		R	B	M	4s	6s	SR
Mohammad Rizwan †	b Bumrah	31	44	67	1	1	70.45
Babar Azam (c)	c Yadav b Bumrah	13	10	23	2	0	130.00

question goes back to why didn't Rizwan and Babar score like how they did in 2021?

 

[emranabbas]

31 international centuries. He averages 57 in ODIs. For comparison, Viv Richards averages 47, Sachin Tendulker averages 44 and Rohit Sharma averages 49.

so Babar better than Viv Richards, Sachin Tendulkar and Rohit Sharma


how many games Babar won for Pakistan on his own other than the fluke vs India in 2021?

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

rizwan and babar in that 2022 game your referring to so

Batting		R	B	M	4s	6s	SR
Mohammad Rizwan †	c Kumar b Arshdeep Singh	4	12	25	1	0	33.33
Babar Azam (c)	lbw b Arshdeep Singh	0	1	10	0	0	0.00

rizwan and babar in 2024 so again

Batting		R	B	M	4s	6s	SR
Mohammad Rizwan †	b Bumrah	31	44	67	1	1	70.45
Babar Azam (c)	c Yadav b Bumrah	13	10	23	2	0	130.00

question goes back to why didn't Rizwan and Babar score like how they did in 2021?

This proves what? Who performs in every innings? Sharjeel, Asif Ali and Usman Khan? The 2024 innings was good from both considering the pitch and chase. Fakhar, Imad and the rest bottled it. Even in 2022 the ball was swinging miles the first 2 overs, Rizwan did well to counter it and make sure Pak were not 20/4. It was a bowling failure to allow an above average accumulator like Kohli to score 48 from 18 by Rauf and halwa bowler Nawaz.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

ok i don't if it makes you sleep better at night



Mr. Expert, let's go with your theory. The last time Babar played a T20 in Centurion, he scored 122 off 77 balls. So, why hasn't he replicated that performance this time? According to your theory, shouldn't he be consistently smashing 122 off 77 balls whenever he plays in Centurion?


completely missed the point about factors like home conditions and player form etc.. what a joker

You not knowing what a bilateral series is makes no difference to my sleep schedule. Just look in the mirror next time you question someone's understanding of cricket.

Stick to your point clown. You said Fakhar was a walking wicket in South Africa. But facts very clearly dictate the opposite. Why are you bringing Babar and a joke format like T20s into it? Next time bother to look up what Fakhar has actually done in ODIs in South Africa before making such a deluded claim that Fakhar is a walking wicket in South Africa, and bending over backwards to defend Aqib Javed, of all people.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

so Babar better than Viv Richards, Sachin Tendulkar and Rohit Sharma


how many games Babar won for Pakistan on his own other than the fluke vs India in 2021?

I am not saying he is better or worse but he has better numbers than all of them and he has a case for being a greater ODI batsman already than them. No emotion, pure numbers. He has also performed in the biggest stages (WC century vs NZ) and ICC tournament win in 2017.

 

[emranabbas]

You not knowing what a bilateral series is makes no difference to my sleep schedule. Just look in the mirror next time you question someone's understanding of cricket.

I’m well aware of what a bilateral series is. I’m just pointing out that there’s also a Tri-Series involving South Africa and New Zealand in Pakistan.

So, Mr. Expert, explain why a bilateral series in South Africa is better preparation for the 2025 Champions Trophy compared to a Tri-Series against the same team and New Zealand in Pakistan — where the actual tournament will be held.

Will be looking forward to your answer

Stick to your point clown. You said Fakhar was a walking wicket in South Africa. But facts very clearly dictate the opposite.

If you’re having trouble understanding plain English, that makes you the clown.

I said Fakhar is struggling in easy home conditions against domestic B-grade bowlers and will be a walking wicket in South Africa. There’s a difference In what I said and what your making it out to be

 

[Mamoon]

In that case, stop blaming Aqib. Instead, hold the more experienced cricketers accountable, as they've been responsible for Pakistan's losses.

I will blame Aqib for stupid selections. The accountability of the players is separate from accountability of the coach/selector.

The squad is the same as it was before Aqib took over, with the only differences being that Azam Khan, Shadab, Iftikhar, Amir, Imad, and Fakhar are not in the team anymore. But Saim is performing just as well as Fakhar.

Do you really want all of them back? I thought you didn't like them!

He picked Sahibzada over Saim in the T20 series in Australia. Evan a lunatic would know that it was a brainless call, because Saim is a much better white ball option than Sahibzada any day of the week.

You're judging the book by its cover without fully understanding it, and that approach has often backfired on you many times. i will just wait and see how aqib's performance go before I make a judgment

I don't need lectures from people like you. I know characters like Aqib like the back of my hand.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I’m well aware of what a bilateral series is. I’m just pointing out that there’s also a Tri-Series involving South Africa and New Zealand in Pakistan.

So, Mr. Expert, explain why a bilateral series in South Africa is better preparation for the 2025 Champions Trophy compared to a Tri-Series against the same team and New Zealand in Pakistan — where the actual tournament will be held.

Will be looking forward to your answer



If you’re having trouble understanding plain English, that makes you the clown.

I said Fakhar is struggling in easy home conditions against domestic B-grade bowlers and will be a walking wicket in South Africa. There’s a difference In what I said and what your making it out to be

Well then you shouldn't have said that Pakistan is playing a tri-series at home when I said this is Pakistan's last bilateral series before the CT. But you did say that, which means you didn't know what a bilateral series was before I pointed that out to you. Rather than being indignant, you should be thankful to me for increasing your knowledge.

What made you arrive to the conclusion that one series matters more than the other? They both matter but the reason why this series was especially important was because it features a full-strength South African squad and is in tougher conditions. It's highly likely that South Africa will be missing most of their key players in that tri-series because of the SA20 which will be going on at the same time. Anything else to add?

It doesn't matter how Fakhar does in a useless domestic T20 league. He is one of the best white-ball batters in the world who has played clutch knocks in ICC tournaments than the entire useless pool of players in that tournament put together.

 

[Mamoon]

usman has been in the squad before aqib took over you can't blame him for that.

tayyab has been a good addition, he had out performed Babar, Babar average 15 tayyab tahir average 30 since aqib took over

players scoring are not good enough but players who can't get double digits are the best in pakistan what sort of logic is this?

So what if he was in the squad earlier? The job of the selector is to pick the best possible squad, not persist with players who have been there from before. If Aqib was the cricketing genius that some on this forum claim, he would be able to tell that Usman does not belong at this level.

Tayyab is not a good edition. He also doesn't belong at this level. He is officially 31 and probably 35-36 in reality, and he offers nothing to Pakistan. You can't build a proper squad by investing in such players.

Babar is a million times better player than him. What is the point of this comparison? Even a tail-ender can outperform a batsmen based on a small sample set.

 

[Mamoon]

he did the right thing by dropping Fakhar, he has apposed the yaari dosti culture, we don't need player power in Pakistan cricket and players sabotaging the team like Rizwan and Babar have been doing

I'm sure he will bring Fakhar back when the time is right.

There is no need of blindly defending every move made by Aqib Fakhar needs be part of the team now because he is close to retirement age and does not have years left in the tank. He has been Pakistan's best middle-order batsman in the T20I format for a few years and best ODI opener since his debut and he has been sidelined for poor players like Sahibzada, Usman and Tayyab.

 

[emranabbas]

Well then you shouldn't have said that Pakistan is playing a tri-series at home when I said this is Pakistan's last bilateral series before the CT. But you did say that, which means you didn't know what a bilateral series was before I pointed that out to you. Rather than being indignant, you should be thankful to me for increasing your knowledge.

Think what you like if it makes you sleep better

What made you arrive to the conclusion that one series matters more than the other? They both matter but the reason why this series was especially important was because it features a full-strength South African squad and is in tougher conditions. It's highly likely that South Africa will be missing most of their key players in that tri-series because of the SA20 which will be going on at the same time. Anything else to add?

This is why I say you have zero understanding of cricket.

In the Tri-Series, South Africa will field their full-strength XI to maximize practice in conditions where the Champions Trophy will be held.

In fact, it's during the series in South Africa where they're resting key players.

 

[Mamoon]

How is he selecting a pathetic squad is Babar and rizzu are still your no 3 and no 4 and still your t20 openers?

Babar and rizwan are failing left and right? So will you acknowledge their pathetic players in the squad that aqib has selected?

He picked Sahibzada over Saim in the Australian T20I series. Let that sink in. Even a monkey would not be dumb enough to make that call. That one decision summed up the caliber of Aqib.

 

[Savak]

Aqib is the one who influenced the chairman and other higher up's to do away with the foreign coaches i.e. Kirsten and Gillespie.

While the PCB's complaints about the coaches not spending enough time in Pakistan was justified, the bottomline is that when you sign a contract and agree to delegate certain powers and give full authority to the coaches, you can't just break the contract and decide to do away with the coaches you hired in such a short time duration. Someone rigthfully commented online that pregnancies last longer than foreign coaches stints in Pakistan.

No reputed foreign coaches worth his salt will ever work with Pakistan again. Mickey Arthur was right not to leave his Derbyshire job because he experienced first hand how Pakistani ex cricketers lack integrity and will backstab others for short term gains.

Even if the PCB was unimpressed with Gillespie's selections, tactics in the Bangladesh series and the first test match in England, the man deserved to see out his tenure and he was willing to make compromises to see out his tenure but the PCB just backed him to a corner and frustrated him into turning in his papers.

 

[mominsaigol]

He picked Sahibzada over Saim in the Australian T20I series. Let that sink in. Even a monkey would not be dumb enough to make that call. That one decision summed up the caliber of Aqib.

I've critised aqib non stop in t20 cricket and I agree with you.

I was referring to odi and test cricket where he's gotten results so far?

The England test series is thanks to him

 

[Mamoon]

I've critised aqib non stop in t20 cricket and I agree with you.

I was referring to odi and test cricket where he's gotten results so far?

The England test series is thanks to him

ODI series was thanks to the captaincy of Rizwan. The squad wasn't great either.

As far as the Test series is concerned, it was actually Aleem Dar who advised PCB to prepare turning pitches, but Aqib had a TV interview at the same time where he said the same and that went viral, so he took advantage of that. Aleem Dar is a humble man unlike the insecure phony Aqib, so he didn't need to steal the spotlight like Aqib did.

Anyone who has followed Aqib's coaching career can see that he is worth nothing.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Think what you like if it makes you sleep better


This is why I say you have zero understanding of cricket.

In the Tri-Series, South Africa will field their full-strength XI to maximize practice in conditions where the Champions Trophy will be held.

In fact, it's during the series in South Africa where they're resting key players.

Again, your poor understanding of cricket makes no difference to my sleep schedule.

Yeah, South Africa who fielded their Z team for a test series in New Zealand which carried WTC points will field their first XI for a 2 ODI (3 if they make the final) tri-series in Pakistan. You keep saying I have a poor understanding of cricket, do you even know what the SA20 means to South Africa from an economical stand-point? I would think not, because otherwise you wouldn't be making such a deluded claim. But tell you what, the series in a few months away. We'll see South Africa's squad.

LOL why don't you look up South Africa's ODI squad for this series? Google is your friend. It's as close to a full-strength squad as they could possibly select keeping in mind injuries.

This is a seriously pathetic defense of Aqib Javed btw.

 

[RidiculousMan]

I don't get the point of arguments in this discussion. Aqib is not the chairman. Nor is he CEO or COO.

Aqib accepted a job. Now we will see how it goes. Blame Chairman and the angels in near him that made Gillespie and Kirsten resign.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

I think Naqvi didn't realise Kirsten and Gillespie would not be spending a lot of time in Pakistan.

We needs someone hands on at the NCA and that is the reality of the situation.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I predicted this the day Gary Kirsten left the job, and to be quite honest, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to foresee it. Especially when you consider that the PCB did everything in their power to drive him away, and how Aqib Javed managed to maneuver his way into this situation. To his credit, Gillespie seemed to be doing his best to make it work. But there’s only so much you can push someone before they reach their breaking point.

Pakistan cricket is no place for professionals who are committed to making a difference. Remember Steve Rixon? People like Aqib Javed are a perfect fit for Pakistan cricket because their level of professionalism is on-par with the level of professionalism of the PCB.

Agree. Pakistan cricket should avoid hiring professional coaches from abroad while their first class game is still run along amateur lines. Aquib Javed is a good choice to reflect where Pakistan cricket currently stands. A local yokel coach for a local yokel set up.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Agree. Pakistan cricket should avoid hiring professional coaches from abroad while their first class game is still run along amateur lines. Aquib Javed is a good choice to reflect where Pakistan cricket currently stands. A local yokel coach for a local yokel set up.

Perfectly summed up.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Perfectly summed up.

I don't even mean that in a demeaning way. It's just pointless hiring top level personnel for a cricket organisation which has no ambition to reach top level standards. The PCB is hoping a coach will be a short cut to creating high class cricketers, but a genuine competitive first class cricket structure is the only way to do that.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I don't even mean that in a demeaning way. It's just pointless hiring top level personnel for a cricket organisation which has no ambition to reach top level standards. The PCB is hoping a coach will be a short cut to creating high class cricketers, but a genuine competitive first class cricket structure is the only way to do that.

I know and I get what you mean. I always see these foreign coach appointments as a short-term fix to a long-term problem we are not capable of solving right now. The hope is always that maybe they will make some difference in-regards to how our players approach the game or elevate their levels of professionalism. Expecting anything else is too much to ask honestly. But as history has shown, even that little is not possible because the system that these players are coming through is too behind the times and amateurish.

 

[hafizexpress]

Dang I've enjoyed the debates on this thread. But it's ludicrous to justify Fakhar being out due to poor form in a domestic t20 tournament in Pakistan. You don't remove these guys from the international setup, he deserves royal treatment.

Anyway, mixed feelings about Gillespie. Yes, he was wronged and mishandled. That shouldn't have happened. Was he really the best man for the job though? Lost a series to BD, and would have lost to England too if his decisions were employed.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Aaqib has just replaced the Kirsten-Gillespie duo in the well of death.

Aaqib wont stay either... just 1 bad series and he will be replaced by Kudrat ka nizam.

 

[Pakpak]

It was a bit of a fluke ( not the win but the pitch preparation).

In the absence of proper systems sometimes these flukes or random acts come along and lull us into a false sense of security. When push comes to shove the whole thing ends up being hollow and we are in a bigger mess than before.

Nowadays when coaches are hired they come armed with presentations and information around what sort of identity they want the team to have.

These coaches were hired for a reason but the PCB chaos meant that they weren't able to show their vision.

We lost the Bangladesh series because of our batsmen not the pitches and as much as I enjoyed the England win is picking old timer spinners and openly doctoring the pitches to try and suit your team really a good sign for our team?

We were the first nation on earth to have selectors, coaches and captains to work on the pitch.

PCB were aware of Gillespies plans and vision from the outset, they gave him the job and then crapped the bed after some initial set backs. When you hire a coach you need to give them the times and tools to build a culture.

Instead we pulled the rug from under him after one set back and got annoyed he wasn't at the NCAA giving throwdowns.

Also these people acting like Aqib's suggestion was some master stroke when even an amateur like all of us here had been begging the PCB for spinning tracks especially against SENA teams.

 

[Bewal Express]

Good decision local coach is the way forward.

So it was a terrible decision by the same guy 8 months ago. You don't even understand what you write.

 

[Bewal Express]

Jason Gillespie took charge of the Pakistan team in April, and we lost our first series at home to Bangladesh. Aqib became the selector in October, and we went on to win two Test matches against England. That says it all.

I’ve got no doubt Jason Gillespie is a much better coach than Aqib, but it’s like giving a Ferrari to someone who’s only driven a cart they wouldn’t know what to do with it. Same with our "pindu" cricketers; they need a local coach who can give them a kick up the back and speak their language.

So you base your judgement on the coaches on one series.

 

[emranabbas]

So you base your judgement on the coaches on one series.

OK to judge every player and and other coaches even before series start but no no you cant judge Jason Gillespie after series

Much doubles standards

 

[emranabbas]

So it was a terrible decision by the same guy 8 months ago. You don't even understand what you write.

He did a U turn like Mr Khan

 

[emranabbas]

Also these people acting like Aqib's suggestion was some master stroke when even an amateur like all of us here had been begging the PCB for spinning tracks especially against SENA teams.

So why other coaches for the past 3 years didn't apply? Care to explain?

 

[emranabbas]

I think Naqvi didn't realise Kirsten and Gillespie would not be spending a lot of time in Pakistan.

We needs someone hands on at the NCA and that is the reality of the situation.

Most fans are happy to pay the goray for sitting in their comfort at home away from pakistan but won't want to pay a local coach due to politic diffrence and psl rivalry

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Most fans are happy to pay the goray for sitting in their comfort at home away from pakistan but won't want to pay a local coach due to politic diffrence and psl rivalry

I understand their concerns, local coaches are incompetent. Most struggle with managing relationships in the dressing room never mind coaching technicalities and method.

But the lack of presence in Pakistan by foreign coaches is an issue too. There is no value in zoom calls and only turning up for series and tournaments then demanding selection priviliges only to select TTFs like Shadab.

 

[Bewal Express]

OK to judge every player and and other coaches even before series start but no no you cant judge Jason Gillespie after series

Much doubles standards

I know this may not have registered with you but I don't get paid to make decisions.