Aaqib Javed is as bad a coach as I had always imagined!

[ARK Rafay]

Then he destroyed Ghulam Muddasar's action who is trundling with this new action.

He really did that too? I also wondered why Ghulam Mudassar was a trundler in this PSL. He was supposed to be quick when I 1st heard 1-2 years ago.

And Remember in the last season he drafted in Raza Hassan with all the hype. He is indeed the worst coach.

 

[topspin]

I've always suspected LQ's failures are largely down this guy.

Then we wonder why out pace bowling stocks are down and now fallen behind our neighbours?

 

[saeed5646]

8 matches stint?

Due to prior family commitments, I will only be available till the last group stage game. I want to thank Lahore Qalandars for giving me an opportunity to represent them and I look forward to not only enjoying my time in the HBL PSL 2019 but also contributing in making it a stronger brand,” de Villiers said.

 

[saeed5646]

He really did that too? I also wondered why Ghulam Mudassar was a trundler in this PSL. He was supposed to be quick when I 1st heard 1-2 years ago.

And Remember in the last season he drafted in Raza Hassan with all the hype. He is indeed the worst coach.

yup he is behind ghulam action.
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...ing-with-Aqib-Javed&highlight=Ghulam+Mudassar

yeah i remember too poor raza hasan only got few matches

 

[Slog]

I’ll never forgive this clown for destroying two generations of U19 World Cup winning youngsters

 

[The Viper]

Don't know why he hasn't been sacked yet. Lahore have done poorly every season. This may be his last chance.

 

[gazza619]

How can one human destroy two generations of youngsters. (Talk about overreaction!)

As if Anwar Ali was going to be the next Malcom Marshall if he hasnt seen Aqib

Dont blame the damn coach, blame the player!

 

[Savak]

Aqib is a Panoti for every youngster

 

[CadPakFan]

How can one human destroy two generations of youngsters. (Talk about overreaction!)

As if Anwar Ali was going to be the next Malcom Marshall if he hasnt seen Aqib

Dont blame the damn coach, blame the player!

That is true but in a sense, some of the blame also has to go to the coach. Like if you were studying for an exam and you got a tutor to help teach you everything. If you preform poorly it maybe due to your work ethic but can also be blamed on the tutor for poor teaching.

 

[gazza619]

That is true but in a sense, some of the blame also has to go to the coach. Like if you were studying for an exam and you got a tutor to help teach you everything. If you preform poorly it maybe due to your work ethic but can also be blamed on the tutor for poor teaching.

Fine but you as a student can always retake the exam and if you have talent and skill you will suceed.

 

[Savak]

Steven Finn was a promising England Fast bowler, but because of some bad over coaching he lost all of his natural gifts, pace and is no longer the same bowler that he was when he first started his career. Yipps.

 

[Officer Barbrady]

Aaqib has consistently picked terribly unbalanced squads and he did it again this year. He also blamed Mccullum (being a foreigner) for the poor performances which I thought was in pretty poor taste. For one McCullum was one of the better captains of the past decade and two, Darren Sammy is doing just fine!

Now he’s made AB captain after all that. I guess AB will be blamed next if they continue to lose?

 

[Cric1234]

He really did that too? I also wondered why Ghulam Mudassar was a trundler in this PSL. He was supposed to be quick when I 1st heard 1-2 years ago.

And Remember in the last season he drafted in Raza Hassan with all the hype. He is indeed the worst coach.

Raza only bowled 5 overs he was coming back from a lay off not in best form was mishandled should be playing in this PSL top bowler in recent National T20 Cup international class spin bowler being wasted.

 

[srh]

Lahore Qalandars need to fire Aqib Javed

Aqib Javed has committed huge blunders for Lahore Qalandars but for some insane reason he still has the job. He should be fired right now so that Lahore Qalandars can get some respect back.

 

[saeed5646]

LQ is wasting money on this dude who is terrible coach and is largely responsible for Lahore failure in all 4 psl session

Thankfully i am not too hurt after there blunder of selecting butt.

 

[Officer Barbrady]

Time to fire Aaqib and find a new coach? He can certainly be involved with the talent hunts but they've got to revamp their coaching/selection staff.

 

[CleverSir]

Someone tell Rama Saab to fire this junk of a coach. Team would’ve performed the same if not better without him.

A tournament the size of PSL is not the time for “coaching”. Not enough down time to coach any fundamentals. You need a manager who can handle personalities and put together game plans based on available personnel. ISLU and QG have this formula right along with Zalmi. Karachi and Lahore are stuck in mindset of this being a long term season. They won’t win until they move into new coaching management.

 

[Saj]

LQ need a major shake-up from top to bottom.

Their selection policy needs a major overhaul too.

 

[Chokli]

lahore calendars is an apt representation of pakistan cricket as a whole on a much smaller scale

 

[Saj]

These guys could have signed Imam-ul-Haq and didn't. They could have signed Mohammad Hasnain and didn't.

Their overseas signings over the years have by and large been awful.

Their scouting system seems to be non-existant.

 

[Chokli]

These guys could have signed Imam-ul-Haq and didn't. They could have signed Mohammad Hasnain and didn't.

Their overseas signings over the years have by and large been awful.

Their scouting system seems to be non-existant.

and they signed Salman Butt who was never a t20 player to begin with but they at least could have used him properly... having him open instead of 1 down

 

[Officer Barbrady]

LQ need a major shake-up from top to bottom.

Their selection policy needs a major overhaul too.

I’ve been assuming Aaqib runs the selection policy as well? Or maybe there are others involved. Agree though, they need a revamp badly

 

[Officer Barbrady]

These guys could have signed Imam-ul-Haq and didn't. They could have signed Mohammad Hasnain and didn't.

Their overseas signings over the years have by and large been awful.

Their scouting system seems to be non-existant.

Not sure they needed Husnain since they had Rauf and Shaheen already. But they could have done with an extra spinner.

 

[Savak]

Sadly for them, there was no Umar Akmal to blame this time. God has been kind to Umar Akmal, he ended up going to a better Franchise with a more caring team management and end result is a recall to the Pakistan Team. Lol at Brendon Mccullam, dropped by the PSL and IPL and his T-20 career is now over.

 

[MenInG]

Some serious allegations made against Aaqib Javed and Brendon McCullum by Atiq-uz-Zaman:


“According to me, Aaqib Javed is one of the worst coaches of the century. Despite losing three matches from winning positions, he didn’t do any review of the performance”

“He used to make no plans with regards to who would be the openers or which bowler will open the bowling. There was a club level setup in Qalandars. He used to send players depending on his mood. He never used to go inside the field during strategic timeout and always used to send other members of the coaching staff.”

“Aaqib never got the team together before the match. There was absolutely no culture in the team. He used to change three or four players after every match"

"I have done analysis of every ball as a fielding coach on a sheet. Aaqib never asked for that sheet or tried to read it. Maybe he wouldn’t have understood it since it is in English"

“McCullum never used to attend team meetings. Kyle Mills used to act as his messenger and deliver the message to him after the meeting"

“I said in the meeting that I don’t understand how McCullum attempted a single when seven runs were needed in the last over with only two wickets left. I gave my honest opinion and later I was restricted to my hotel.”

“Aaqib was doing what McCullum asked him to do. Similarly, Kabir Khan was also stopped from going to the stadium after McCullum accused him of supporting the opposition side due to his reaction to a dropped catch of McCulllum”

“Aaqib also said that he wouldn’t let Umar Akmal play for Lahore Qalandars till the time he is the coach"

“They made Raza Hasan a scapegoat by bowling him in powerplay overs and then dropped him after a few games. Aqib had also decided before the season to drop Bilawal Bhatti from the squad. He was not getting an excuse to send him back. He wanted a batsman instead of Bilawal. So he made an excuse that Bilawal can’t throw well and declared him unfit with the help of his close doctor friend.”

 

[Titan24]

These are some serious accusations not only against Aqib but against MCcullam as well. However, I dont agree with sharing the things which went inside the dressing room and team meetings as it’s pretty poor professionalism disclosing such things even if they are true. If one doesnt agree with the set up he should just silently leave rather than taking internal things out in the open.

 

[The Viper]

Aaqib has been a poor coach, and Lahore’s performances over the years manifest his incompetency.

 

[Hawkeye]

Seems to be way too personal from Atiq. He's also responsible somewhere but only throwing mud at Aqib.

I'm no Aqib fan and he does need a boot, but this is just being salty and personal.

 

[Saj]

Accusations show what a mess LQ have been. Egos clashing, no strategy and no direction.

I recall Atiq telling me after his stint with LQ that there were lots of problems and issues due to a couple of people.

 

[Savak]

Good riddance the over rated Mccullam was shown the door by LQ's. Hopefully Aqib will follow suite as well

 

[CricketDon]

BM was a problem for LQ. Awful player awful batsman. No tactics was just there for a easy pay check.

 

[Monsee]

It is not a question of 'Whether he contributed to decline of another youngster and then another and on and on...'

Question is not whether Anwar Ali was mediocre to begin with, nor that his action was gonna cause him issues down the road (see Klusekara with exactly similar action had a successful few years at the Int'l level) etc.

The biggest question we must be asking is 'Who the heck gave him the right, powers, and supposed knowhow to initiate action change/modifications etc? Why does he have this big chip on his shoulder that allows him to continue to mess with actions/techniques etc. without the requisite experience/certifications and what not!

And even then, for every Anwar Ali/Muddassar/Mansoor Amjad etc. there is a story to celebrate in the form of a Malinga/Thompson/Bumrah on and on the list goes. A huge majority of experts/coaches/specialists only believe in slight modifications over a longer period of time and even then the changes introduced are minor tweaks at best; no wholesale changes are usually suggested just on a whim like he has been doing for the last decade or more!

 

[Bullet Drive]

Heard from few LQ players that LAHORE management are worst. No strategy or plans before game etc.

 

[Slog]

It is not a question of 'Whether he contributed to decline of another youngster and then another and on and on...'

Question is not whether Anwar Ali was mediocre to begin with, nor that his action was gonna cause him issues down the road (see Klusekara with exactly similar action had a successful few years at the Int'l level) etc.

The biggest question we must be asking is 'Who the heck gave him the right, powers, and supposed knowhow to initiate action change/modifications etc? Why does he have this big chip on his shoulder that allows him to continue to mess with actions/techniques etc. without the requisite experience/certifications and what not!

And even then, for every Anwar Ali/Muddassar/Mansoor Amjad etc. there is a story to celebrate in the form of a Malinga/Thompson/Bumrah on and on the list goes. A huge majority of experts/coaches/specialists only believe in slight modifications over a longer period of time and even then the changes introduced are minor tweaks at best; no wholesale changes are usually suggested just on a whim like he has been doing for the last decade or more!

I used to call him Aqib the Action Slayer in these forums. Seems like he read it and took it to heart.

Aqib Javed hasn’t seen an action that he hasn’t wanted to change. Few days ago he held a press conference on Haris Rauf success in Big Bash League and said he can improve further with few changes. I’m genuinely scared he’ll mess him up

 

[Slog]

'Ghulam Musassir is ready for Pakistan national team'

'Ehtisham Sultan will be world class'

Lol where are these two guys now.

I don’t remember seeing their names even in domestic season this time

 

[Savak]

Brendon Mccullam talk nah

 

[The Viper]

Lahore Qalandars are set for another disappointing campaign. I can't believe Fawad Rana has kept faith in Aaqib when the results are outrageously poor and there are no signs of progression. There are still frequent collapses, like today.

 

[Savak]

The fact this guy keeps getting retained is proof of how unprofessionally the franchise is managed. Vijay Mallya in comparison sacked his entire management in the middle of the tournament, it shows that there is zero accountability in the franchise for anything.

 

[Canistani Hero]

If LQ end up 6th again and he still retains his place, heads will turn

 

[Savak]

If LQ end up 6th again and he still retains his place, heads will turn

Not sure if Fawad Rana is his own boss or is the one calling the shots because if LQ finishes last again then someone needs to fire the CEO. Eventually CEO's get fired if they don't show results.

 

[minamino]

He’s not that bad as a coach but it’s the system which is pathetic

 

[Canistani Hero]

Not sure if Fawad Rana is his own boss or is the one calling the shots because if LQ finishes last again then someone needs to fire the CEO. Eventually CEO's get fired if they don't show results.

Pretty sure he would be fired by now if he wasn't his own boss

 

[Bigboii]

The fact this guy keeps getting retained is proof of how unprofessionally the franchise is managed. Vijay Mallya in comparison sacked his entire management in the middle of the tournament, it shows that there is zero accountability in the franchise for anything.

That was stupid you shouldn't fire people in the middle of the tournament

 

[Bigboii]

Pretty sure he would be fired by now if he wasn't his own boss

Didn't know he was the CEO I thought he was an overpriced cheerleader for lq
But I am so sad cause in the beginning of the season we start with LQ but in the end we only get a capital L

 

[Canistani Hero]

Didn't know he was the CEO I thought he was an overpriced cheerleader for lq
But I am so sad cause in the beginning of the season we start with LQ but in the end we only get a capital L

I'm sure they will win some games of individual brilliance with players like Lynn and Shaheen but they despearately need some sort of cohesion..some strategy would be nice..not just lets turn up and go with the flow

 

[CleverSir]

Recently met some of the LQ management around Rana sb. And I have to say it is just pathetic when it comes to cricket knowledge. he needs to clean house and bring in some experienced staff with a history of success.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some fans in the GSL are not happy with the Lahore Qalandars Head Coach <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSLV2020?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSLV2020</a> <a href="https://t.co/ZmuLJyDrKo">pic.twitter.com/ZmuLJyDrKo</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1231620876120068096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[MRSN]

clueless captain appointed by Aqib can't even make decent bowling changes.

 

[Saj]

Most likely Aaqib's last season at Qalandars.

I've heard they are looking to move away from him.

 

[anonymous_guy]

Most likely Aaqib's last season at Qalandars.

I've heard they are looking to move away from him.

4 years is long long time, good riddance if its true.

Stephan Fleming might be a great option as the head coach of Lahore, if he agrees, Fleming has been amazing with CSK in the IPL.

 

[Darkrai]

#SackAqibJaved is trending on twitter. Usually, you see this in football. Never thought i would see it in cricket. I doubt he will be sacked during this season though.

 

[gazza619]

How can one human destroy two generations of youngsters. (Talk about overreaction!)

As if Anwar Ali was going to be the next Malcom Marshall if he hasnt seen Aqib

Dont blame the damn coach, blame the player!

Its pleasing to see that I was right about Aquib even 5 years ago!

 

[Rana]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1848994602738393575

Sohail Akhtar as the new Aqib Javed?

 

[Mamoon]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1848994602738393575

Sohail Akhtar as the new Aqib Javed?

seems like a LQ thing to do.

 

[Rana]

One clown replacing another seems like a LQ thing to do.

Yeah I guess PZ have an identity of appointing clowns as captains and not coaches I suppose.

 

[Major]

Yeah I guess PZ have an identity of appointing clowns as captains and not coaches I suppose.

PZ makes the most money in PSL as its the best team when it comes to affiliated marketing through its players.

The fact that they had had sammy, afridi and babar as captain got them the top sponsors of the country

 

[Rana]

PZ makes the most money in PSL as its the best team when it comes to affiliated marketing through its players.

The fact that they had had sammy, afridi and babar as captain got them the top sponsors of the country

Yeah let’s make money for ourselves, who gives a flying manji about Pakistan cricket?

 

[TheSultan]

When Aqib first came on the scene as a “coach”, he was very naive and was like a kid in a toy shop. A little bit of knowledge on foot and body alignment got him changing bowling actions left, right and centre.

I ridiculed him myself. Never took him seriously.

However, people grow, people learn. It’s been 20 years since his initial action-changing nonsense. He has displayed good knowledge of the game recently. I think he’s as good a domestic coach as you’ll get.

 

[Major]

Yeah let’s make money for ourselves, who gives a flying manji about Pakistan cricket?

You are really immature.

The purpose of PSL is not to act as scouting tournament for pakistan. Its a business entertainment that makes money from marketing affiliations and not by winning tournaments. Thats how sports franchise business works

 

[Major]

When Aqib first came on the scene as a “coach”, he was very naive and was like a kid in a toy shop. A little bit of knowledge on foot and body alignment got him changing bowling actions left, right and centre.

I ridiculed him myself. Never took him seriously.

However, people grow, people learn. It’s been 20 years since his initial action-changing nonsense. He has displayed good knowledge of the game recently. I think he’s as good a domestic coach as you’ll get.

He hasnt. He is as rubbish as he was druing the 2000s.

He doesnt coach any domestic team, he only looks after LQ which is a t20 franchise and his team came dead last for 4 seasons before winning it.

Its just that in 2024 Aqib Javed now sits on podcasts like M. Asif and people are going gaga.

If the guy wants to coach, than he should take one first class team coach it for few years and work his way up.

Abdur Rehman of Peshawar did this. He made Peshawar region into a top region and earned his assistant coaching call up for Pakistan team

 

[Rana]

You are really immature.

The purpose of PSL is not to act as scouting tournament for pakistan. Its a business entertainment that makes money from marketing affiliations and not by winning tournaments. Thats how sports franchise business works

Oh I’m immature now? It’s you guys who want Rizwan as captain based on how he leads MS! Where does your flawed theory of ‘PSL’s purpose isn’t to scout talent for a pakistan’ go then???

I may be immature to you but I ain’t no hypocrite as you are to everyone

 

[TheSultan]

He hasnt. He is as rubbish as he was druing the 2000s.

He doesnt coach any domestic team, he only looks after LQ which is a t20 franchise and his team came dead last for 4 seasons before winning it.

Its just that in 2024 Aqib Javed now sits on podcasts like M. Asif and people are going gaga.

If the guy wants to coach, than he should take one first class team coach it for few years and work his way up.

Abdur Rehman of Peshawar did this. He made Peshawar region into a top region and earned his assistant coaching call up for Pakistan team

Sorry mate, Misbah ain’t coming back

 

[Rana]

Sorry mate, Misbah ain’t coming back

He might come back if Pakistan applies the PSL model and stops scouting talent for the nation

 

[Rana]

PSL is a godsend for failures like Waqar and Aaqib. They can find work year after year for a hefty salaries and with little accountability and appraisal.

Yes also for Babar as captain

 

[iPakistani]

Yeah let’s make money for ourselves, who gives a flying manji about Pakistan cricket?

Javed Afridi and the PZ business team have no requirement to cater to the national team. They're running it as a business and rightly so. Blaming Javed Afridi for Babar flopping as captain is like blaming BMW the manufacturer for a random pakistani boy in bradford crashing it.

 

[iPakistani]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1848994602738393575

Sohail Akhtar as the new Aqib Javed?

Such an embarrassing franchise.

 

[Rana]

Javed Afridi and the PZ business team have no requirement to cater to the national team. They're running it as a business and rightly so. Blaming Javed Afridi for Babar flopping as captain is like blaming BMW the manufacturer for a random pakistani boy in bradford crashing it.

Why they hell then was Javed lobbying hard bts for Babar to become Pakistan captain??!

You guys are absolutely clueless if you say Javed’s involvement is only limited to what happens in PSL. These franchises are ACTIVELY involved in lobbying for players to be selected or have influence in the Pakistan set up!

 

[iPakistani]

Why they hell then was Javed lobbying hard bts for Babar to become Pakistan captain??!

You guys are absolutely clueless if you say Javed’s involvement is only limited to what happens in PSL. These franchises are ACTIVELY involved in lobbying for players to be selected or have influence in the Pakistan set up!

Sure mate, the only thing you're missing is a tinfoil hat. Unless you're going to come with facts please just stick to your Rizwan obsession as you venturing out of that is a waste of time.

 

[Rana]

Sure mate, the only thing you're missing is a tinfoil hat. Unless you're going to come with facts please just stick to your Rizwan obsession as you venturing out of that is a waste of time.

Backwas na Kar.

If you don’t know how things work, stick to bouncing up and down in joy for Rizwan scoring a 45 ball 50 against Canada

 

[iPakistani]

Backwas na Kar.

If you don’t know how things work, stick to bouncing up and down in joy for Rizwan scoring a 45 ball 50 against Canada

Thread is about Aqib Javed mate, i'm not a Rizwan fan but nice to see your obsession holds no bounds. This is a better angle.

 

[Rana]

Thread is about Aqib Javed mate, i'm not a Rizwan fan but nice to see your obsession holds no bounds. This is a better angle.

Who brought Rizwan up? You or me?

Bring his name up at your own peril against me, I will slaughter your ambitions.

 

[iPakistani]

Who brought Rizwan up? You or me?

Bring his name up at your own peril against me, I will slaughter your ambitions.

You did, not me.

 

[iPakistani]

Oh I’m immature now? It’s you guys who want Rizwan as captain based on how he leads MS! Where does your flawed theory of ‘PSL’s purpose isn’t to scout talent for a pakistan’ go then???

I may be immature to you but I ain’t no hypocrite as you are to everyone

Another thread derailed by a 50 year old man with a fangirl obsession with someone who doesn't even know he exists.

 

[Rana]

You did, not me.

Javed Afridi and the PZ business team have no requirement to cater to the national team. They're running it as a business and rightly so. Blaming Javed Afridi for Babar flopping as captain is like blaming BMW the manufacturer for a random pakistani boy in bradford crashing it.

Why they hell then was Javed lobbying hard bts for Babar to become Pakistan captain??!

You guys are absolutely clueless if you say Javed’s involvement is only limited to what happens in PSL. These franchises are ACTIVELY involved in lobbying for players to be selected or have influence in the Pakistan set up!

Sure mate, the only thing you're missing is a tinfoil hat. Unless you're going to come with facts please just stick to your Rizwan obsession as you venturing out of that is a waste of time.

Where in my discourse with you did I mention Rizwan first?

This was expected from you guys! I better not find a single post by you where you promote Rizwan as a captain because of his performance in PSL!

 

[Major]

Sorry mate, Misbah ain’t coming back

Dont worry rizwan is going to be announce captain. You can dream about aqib javed

 

[Savak]

Some reporters are reporting that Aqibs split with LQ wasn't exactly amicable. He had focused wholeheartedly on the franchise but the biggest sign that he wanted to move on when he signed with Sri Lanka as the bowling coach.

Apparently he was unhappy that they shifted the location of the high performance centre in Lahore. Also he wanted a higher financial package for himself which they were not prepared to give him. Aqib himself might say he got bored in the role and wanted a new challenge.

 

[Rana]

He hasnt. He is as rubbish as he was druing the 2000s.

He doesnt coach any domestic team, he only looks after LQ which is a t20 franchise and his team came dead last for 4 seasons before winning it.

Its just that in 2024 Aqib Javed now sits on podcasts like M. Asif and people are going gaga.

If the guy wants to coach, than he should take one first class team coach it for few years and work his way up.

Abdur Rehman of Peshawar did this. He made Peshawar region into a top region and earned his assistant coaching call up for Pakistan team

From Wikipedia:

Previously, Aaqib was the chief coach of the National Cricket Academy in Lahore. He is also associated with The Computer House, a Pakistani computer hardware company. He coached Pakistan's U-19 team to victory in the 2004 U-19 Cricket World Cup. Aaqib has, in the past, also helped with the development of the Afghanistan national cricket team. He also served as the bowling coach of the Pakistan cricket team, working alongside Waqar Younis as head coach and Intikhab Alam as manager. However, on February 10, 2012, he resigned from this position to become the bowling and head coach of the United Arab Emirates national cricket team, a role he held until 2016.

Since 2016, he has been the Director of Cricket Operations and bowling consultant for Lahore Qalandars in the Pakistan Super League. In December 2017, he was appointed as the head coach of the team. Currently, he serves as the fast bowling coach of the Sri Lankan national cricket team on a two-year basis. In October 2024, the Pakistan Cricket Board named Aaqib as part of its selection committee.

According to Major…Aqib’s work at International level is meaningless and he should work his way up coaching a domestic team like Sui Gas or Bata Softies to become an international coach.