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Aaron Finch, Aiden Markram and now Kane Williamson have dismissed Mohammed Hafeez

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This so called good player of spin has thrown away his wicket to part-timers. This is not acceptabke.
 
Lol some posters said he would get in the Indian team. An average player who has received way too much backing.
 
Having played for so many years he is still not taking responsibility. Should have taken Pakistan home here.
 
Have said this since the Australia game. 2/3 times it’s been Hafeez. Something isn’t right, shouldn’t struggle so much against part time bowlers.
 
He's done his job. Came in at a difficult time and stuck around on a difficult pitch. The onus is on the middle order now to follow through.
 
He's still a good option for ODIs. Bowled very good 7 overs upfront and chipped in with the bat.
 
Sun setting on another "senior's" career.... sad part is the only spare bat in the side is Asif who is even worse.
 
Disgusting how we wasted 4 years on Shoaib Malik and Mohammad Hafeez when we should've been grooming a young guy since 2015 to be here in theer place. Sadly seniority culture lived on. This is the first time I think the team will actually be 'senior-less'
 
B mac put him in his place in the comm box. After getting out he looked at his gloves like an excuse. B Mac: you can keep looking Hafeez but that was a terrible shot. Putting the senior in his place.
 
Hafeez hits sixes and long hops on sheer timing. He still is the best timer among all Pak batsmen (and I am not kidding but Umar Gul used to be the best before). Problem is that against slower baller or slower deliveries, the timing has to be good enough to clear the boundary or the one-bounce four has to be in a gap. I can somewhat understand the shots he reflexively hits, for instance timing a full toss on the legs to a scoop shot, but the ones where he decides to go against a slower ball and then comes up short literally are quite maddening to watch.

He has to show better judgement in playing these types of mostly well timed shots, and going for less risky areas in the field.
 
That’s his bad luck, law of average - he is so good against regular bowlers that God has decided a way to balance out. If part timers don’t get him out, then how teams can dismiss that colossal?
 
Needs to hit these part-timers in the gaps rather than taking on the boundary riders. If you haven't faced much of these bowlers and you don't have the brute strength to muscle sixes like the way Pollard or Russel can, then these shots become much more high risk.
 
Attacking part time spinners is a good option for hafeez. But, hafeez should hit his aerial shots over the head of circle fielders, not in the hand of boundary fielders.
 
Not a good player of spin or a qualified international no.4 feels like a walking wicket.

If he has to play (I would say no) then play him 6 and Haris 4. Switch them around.
 
He did well today, wicket at that time and who knows. 45/3 would look much worse then 100/3. And he bowled some good 7 overs.
 
Aus, NZ, India, SA. Timings of his dismissals were criminal.

Should bat at 6. With Asif likely to play against Afg (and probably against BD also) in an attempt to boost NRR, Hafeez may find him at 6.
 
He bowled 7 over today for 22...then came in at a time where a collapse was possible and steadied the ship with a 65 run partnership with Babar.

Irrespective of his past record or his utility, he's doing fine for now.
 
He does have this tendency for a very black and white style of batting in the last two years or so. Hes either goes into a shell like he did at the start (which was needed too) or he will see some one like Markram/Finch/Williamson and go for broke...
 
Don't hate on Hafeez. He's been pretty good for us this tournament and won us the crucial England game. His overs come in handy as well and he's one of the players that the others look to when needing advice in the field. Initially when we had opted for experience in the middle over, Hafeez is the one we needed, not both him & Malik. Now that we have that right - let's back him guys!

I personally think that if we make the semis, Hafeez will have one (hopefully two) more last laugh(s)!
 
Hafeez is trying to up the run rate and take pressure of babar, just like fakhar does for imam!
Leave hafeez and fakhar alone , they are sacrificing their wickets for the bigger cause, that imam, babar and haris can play their normal game!
 
But hafeez is not getting out to stark, cummins, rabada, boult or ferguson!
Learn to appreciate instead of hating all the time!
 
Yeah it is disappointing.

But I like Hafeez 2.0.

I like how he can take on the express bowlers and release the pressure.

We should utilize his capabilities and stick with him until the WC.
 
it was a terrible way to get out, myself and commies saw it coming ad soon as williamson came on that he will fold out... however, with Haris walking in, i for once didnt panic like we usually would have at this stage, felt like we are in safe hands ...
 
Yeah granted, he did a job with the ball.

I feel like hes a walking wicket though. If he scores, Im often surprised rather than expectant.
 
reversehook said:
it was a terrible way to get out, myself and commies saw it coming ad soon as williamson came on that he will fold out... however, with Haris walking in, i for once didnt panic like we usually would have at this stage, felt like we are in safe hands ...
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Exactly my feelings when Hafeez got out.

I knew both Babar and Haris will take us home.
 
Hafeez at 4 is a problem.

Hafeez at 6 is no problem for me in my books.

He is good at slogging and playing with little pressure and a comfortable scoreboard situation. A complete and utter nuisance when he is required to hold, build and carry the innings. It is too much to ask of a 38 year old and maybe Hafeez wants to be in this position but it is the WC. I'm sure he would put his pride aside and play the role Pakistan would want him to play, which is scoring at the end or be that last wall if a collapse happens + bowl decently + field well. He's been doing 2/3rd of those things but just not that capable of scoring that much at 4.

His track record in England also speaks for itself.
 
Is there anyway someone can tell Hafeez to bat selfishly. He tries to be way too brave (and hence silly) for my liking.
 
Hafeez seems to be a superstar for a day and then absolutely useless for weeks on end. Once again today his dismissal was soft and it seems that the soft of mode of dismissal is always on the card.
 
Hafeez is one player who hasn't learned at all in his career or does not play with application. He plays the same way in same manner.

An example of this is his swivel pull shot to fast bowlers the one he played off Ferguson early on in the day. He has got out countless times playing that shot in the hands of deep square leg. It does not matter if the fielder is there or not he will play that shot, everytime.

The reason I mentioned the shot above is because does not play with application and premeditates which is apparent in all 3 dismissals mentioned here. First one from Finch no application and as always wanted to look pretty rather than get runs. Against Markram premeditated sweep and I'm kind of surprised he got out here as more often than not he executes this shot. Today against Williamson he wanted to loft him over mid off when he stepped down but because of the turn he had to drag his shot to mid wicket. Now a guy in the middle of his innings after played 50 balls was not able to workout the turn spinners are getting after 20 years of cricket is just mind boggling.

Hafeez needs to apply himself more and the type of shots he plays I know he has at least one if not two good knocks still left in him.
 
People underestimate Hafeez's effort today, he took Ferguson's bouncers head on when he was steaming in and fresh
 
For people critisizing hafeez, You guys just dont understand. Always going on stats

Today when babar was uncomfortable against spin, it was hafeez who was doijg most of the batting. Unless we could produce a better player of spin, this guy is needed.
He played the spinners with ease at the start.

Yes, his choice of taking on part timers is wrong. He needs to play proper cricketing shots, not just go for the aerial route when seeing a part timer. I understand that he does this to take advantage of the situation but today babar and harris showed that you could win matches just by playing proper cricketing shots
 
Bad shot today.

But here everyone has become a pundit and attacking Hafeez, even though Hafeez has actually done decent in this tournament.

Won us the England game.

Today too, he came in at a crucial time, negated Lockie Ferguson when he was steaming in, started hitting boundaries against him for fun, albeit after taking some initial blows.

Yes, today's shot was poor and not needed.

I think he has learnt his lesson, and will only get better. Even at his age he's playing pace superbly.
 
All I will say is keep the criticism coming on Hafeez’s batting because as I’ve found he normally responds to his criticism and silences all critics in style as soon as he next plays against a minnow team and finds a flat batting wicket on a sunny day — Bangladesh and Afghanistan, beware !
 
Hafeez is so frustrating to watch as he did so well to battle it out and then when set the "professor" looses the plot :/ He can actually still offer so much to the team if he puts his ego to one side and battle below Haris.
 
Major said:
For people critisizing hafeez, You guys just dont understand. Always going on stats

Today when babar was uncomfortable against spin, it was hafeez who was doijg most of the batting. Unless we could produce a better player of spin, this guy is needed.
He played the spinners with ease at the start.

Yes, his choice of taking on part timers is wrong. He needs to play proper cricketing shots, not just go for the aerial route when seeing a part timer. I understand that he does this to take advantage of the situation but today babar and harris showed that you could win matches just by playing proper cricketing shots
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He's played with such ease that he couldn't see the traps set up by the likes of Finch, Markram and KW - utterly mediocre part-time spinners - he's been really fortunate that his stupidity has only cost Pakistan one game but even so, had he not holed out against Finch, that Australia game was ours for the taking.

Hafeez needs to stop this from happening again.
 
MMHS said:
That’s his bad luck, law of average - he is so good against regular bowlers that God has decided a way to balance out. If part timers don’t get him out, then how teams can dismiss that colossal?
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This, Hafeez Sobers is a smart man and he understands the business aspect of sports if he averages 900 at a strike rate of 557 then who will tune into the match? The results will be pre-determined such is his ability. Hence he has to tone it down and make it look like he is a mere mortal when in fact he is the best player to ever lace a pair of boots.
 
Hawkeye said:
Bad shot today.

But here everyone has become a pundit and attacking Hafeez, even though Hafeez has actually done decent in this tournament.

Won us the England game.

Today too, he came in at a crucial time, negated Lockie Ferguson when he was steaming in, started hitting boundaries against him for fun, albeit after taking some initial blows.

Yes, today's shot was poor and not needed.

I think he has learnt his lesson, and will only get better. Even at his age he's playing pace superbly.
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People are acting like Hafeez got into the side like Malik did without any runs or performances. Hafeez won us a match in SA in a tight chase, has performed well for us in many T20's leading up with clutch performances and lets not forget the CT Final. As you mentioned he hasn't had a bad World Cup either. People asking for the man the myth the legend to be dropped are hysterical. Plus next two games he's going to thrash Rashid Khan and Shakib Al Hasan. Plus on flat wickets he is an absolute beast so let's not lose patience with him it's his last world cup let's give the celestial myth the retirement he deserves.
 
Hafeez is a good batsman tbh. However, we are all frustrated that he couldn't do justice to his talent throughout his career.
 
If I was Hafeez i would retire immediately after WC. If he's really concerned about the welfare of Pak cricket he should not rob a youngster of a place in the side anymore. Let us groom youngsters please hafeez let them gain valuable experience
 
There is a reason why Hafeez has been an average player through his career because he has chinks in his armour. Stats don't lie.

He's less selfish these days because he knows it is his last tournament so he's not really playing for his place. That should work in favour of Pakistan and we'll need him to punch above his weight if we reach the knock-outs.
 
Hafeez needs to be more sensible but it's also our fault for playing him at 4. Babar and Haris should bat at 3 and 4 and Hafeez should come at 5. Hafeez can't be relied upon to construct an innings, his role should be to score a fluent 50 in the last 20 overs.
 
Lazy and thoughtless cricket.

He didn't fancy it out there against Ferguson and co.

Irresponsible batting from Hafeez.
 
pakistani pride said:
B mac put him in his place in the comm box. After getting out he looked at his gloves like an excuse. B Mac: you can keep looking Hafeez but that was a terrible shot. Putting the senior in his place.
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Mccullam is the last person to criticize anyone for playing a terrible shot. Who can forget Mccullam's shot against Starc in the 2015 WC final
 
zulfiqar said:
Don't hate on Hafeez. He's been pretty good for us this tournament and won us the crucial England game. His overs come in handy as well and he's one of the players that the others look to when needing advice in the field. Initially when we had opted for experience in the middle over, Hafeez is the one we needed, not both him & Malik. Now that we have that right - let's back him guys!

I personally think that if we make the semis, Hafeez will have one (hopefully two) more last laugh(s)!
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Do you post anything ever sensible or anything resembling common sense?
 
Pakpak said:
Do you post anything ever sensible or anything resembling common sense?
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I'm calling out posters who are saying Hafeez should be dropped. You think we have a better replacement for Hafeez's experience in the field and the ball? How about with the bat where he won us the crucial encounter against England? Not sure what other threads you're stalking me in but if you want to make a point in this thread, make one instead of attacking other posters without context.
 
Should be booted out once our WC ends he should not be in long term plans

Rizwan Shan Sami Asif and some other youngsters are waiting and BTW Hafeez is also 40 years old
 
He juts had to milk the spinners for singles instead of going for his wild slog. Its like he can't resist trying to go after the part timer.
 
zulfiqar said:
I'm calling out posters who are saying Hafeez should be dropped. You think we have a better replacement for Hafeez's experience in the field and the ball? How about with the bat where he won us the crucial encounter against England? Not sure what other threads you're stalking me in but if you want to make a point in this thread, make one instead of attacking other posters without context.
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Out of 7 games Hafeez has only made scores in 2, according to you that's good enough.

Binning him after the WC would be the best thing along with getting rid of Akmal.
 
he's play very very typical 90's cricket

-block block block against primary bowlers

-then try and slog against part times

his approach to batting is outdated, and he doesn't realize that he isn't good enough to consistently capitalize on part-timers. Unfortunately there is no alternate in the WC - Hafeez is better than Malik and Asif. But he definitely needs to be pushed down the order, below Haris and Sarfraz
 
What was so evident was the gulf in class between Babar and Hafeez when they were batting together against New Zealand.

Sometimes when 2 players are batting together, it gives you a clearer comparison of them.
 
Pakpak said:
Out of 7 games Hafeez has only made scores in 2, according to you that's good enough.

Binning him after the WC would be the best thing along with getting rid of Akmal.
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I'm not arguing that he should stay with the team after the WC. In fact, I'm not even arguing against people who say he shouldn't have even been part of the squad. All I'm saying is that he needs to play in the team right now because he's done enough to deserve his spot during this tournament. One of his scores was the primary reason we won that match (vs England) and we wouldn't have gotten a good target had he done anything less than what he did. I think Hafeez can give similar performances, especially if Pakistan bat first on a flat wicket.
 
So also gets out to good bowlers - big relief.
 
Another soft dismissal to a nothing ball.

Today's innings was full of plays and misses, no footwork - he looked like a walking wicket.
 
But but he batted well against England... perform in 1 of 8 matches and secure your place in the team.
 
zulfiqar said:
I'm not arguing that he should stay with the team after the WC. In fact, I'm not even arguing against people who say he shouldn't have even been part of the squad. All I'm saying is that he needs to play in the team right now because he's done enough to deserve his spot during this tournament. One of his scores was the primary reason we won that match (vs England) and we wouldn't have gotten a good target had he done anything less than what he did. I think Hafeez can give similar performances, especially if Pakistan bat first on a flat wicket.
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These are situations when platform is already laid, usually in the 1st innings, always goes missing when there is a requirement for him to tough it out.
 
Unbelievable shot to get out today. I cant believe he is batting at 4 with this kind of irresponsible attitude.
 
Wonder what has happened to him.

Looked like a million dollars worth against England.

Needs to get his act right.
 
Needs to be demoted to no.6. Its crime how he bats at the critical no.4 position and Haris and Sarfraz bat below him.
 
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