Abdullah II of Jordan becomes a villain of Muslims by downing Iranian drones en route to Israel

His people don't think him as a puppet. I doubt Jordanians care about what you or me have to say about their leader.

The Hashemites have been a ruling family for how many centuries?

The irony is that till recently the Jordanians of Palestinian origin were more pro King than the "tribal Jordanians" who have been living there for centuries.

Some of these tribal Jordanians tried to topple the King couple of years back as they didnt like his reign

Every now and then tribes in Jordan release statements alluding to the fact that the Jordanian King is a refugee from Hijaz as they came to present day Jordan after being chased by the Sauds from the Hijaz last century,
 
So you support Pakistan becoming secular and not be an Islamic Republic anymore?

That has always been what I thought would work better, but I have only a tenuous link with Pakistan. As far as I'm concerned if the public want Sharia law they are welcome to it. If they want secular law, go for it. I'm never really sure what people want over there as there has never been an elected govt which has been allowed to complete a term.
 
He is the King of Jordan, recognised by everyone.

His people don't think him as a puppet. I doubt Jordanians care about what you or me have to say about their leader.

The Hashemites have been a ruling family for how many centuries?

How do you know his people don't think of him as a puppet? Do they have elections in Jordan where the people get to choose their leaders?
 
Every Muslim country, ruler and its people has a price. Jordan and Abdullah were obviously paid said price (pocket change for the likes of US/Israel/KSA) to make this happen.
 
Every Muslim country, ruler and its people has a price. Jordan and Abdullah were obviously paid said price (pocket change for the likes of US/Israel/KSA) to make this happen.

You should really say that every third world country and ruler has a price, unless you think that corruption or bribery is a Muslim trait only.
 
Can you show where anyone here has claimed to be Arab or Turk please?

Here's a case in point from a few days ago:

 
Here's a case in point from a few days ago:

So @Statpadder Inc responded to a comment from another thread randomly in this thread?
 
Every Muslim country, ruler and its people has a price. Jordan and Abdullah were obviously paid said price (pocket change for the likes of US/Israel/KSA) to make this happen.
Jordan and Israel have been fairly close for a long time. At one time, Jordan was the only muslim country besides Turkey that had diplomatic relations with Israel. Reecently, Israel even helped Jordan modernize its air force by supplying them used F-16s and Cobra helicopters. So it is unlikely that any money was exchanged. Not all Arab muslim countries buy this Free Palestine rhetoric.
 
You aren't from jordan ot iran either despite wanting to be one of them.

Your country is on the verge of collapse, drowns in terrorism and islamist extremism and is literally surviving on foreign loans, they begged the IMF for.
And You aren't from Israel despite wanting to be one of them either.
 
They can try this stupidity to get more spanked
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Israel 'considered revenge attack on Monday' – as ex-Mossad intelligence chief says striking Iran's nuclear facilities 'on the table'

A former Israeli spy agency official says targeting nuclear facilities in Iran is "on the table" - as a report suggests Israel considered, but decided against striking Iran on Monday. Meanwhile, Iran's president warns the "tiniest move" against the country would bring a "fierce" response.

Source: Sky News
 
This is something amongst Muslims.

Indians love coming on here with their holier than thou attitude to preach how Muslims should live while their own country of Hindutva India rots in filth, corruption and a new rape case ever 3 seconds.

What amongst Muslims?

Last time i checked Indians got a visa on arrival in Jordan while pakistanis couldn't.

So much for love of fellow Muslims by Jordan.
 
What amongst Muslims?

Last time i checked Indians got a visa on arrival in Jordan while pakistanis couldn't.

So much for love of fellow Muslims by Jordan.
True, it is sad it’s like that. Unfortunately for you modern governments don’t always represent the views of the common man in a said country.

I’ve met many Jordanians in my life in the Middle East, none of these fantasies Indians have about Jordanian civilians hating on Pakistanis has ever come up.

But it’s sad so many are willing to lick the dirt and blood off of Israeli soldiers boots while being ready to lynch anyone in India who even thinks of eating beef.

Yet are perfectly okay with Israel slaughtering Red Heifers over and over over for their rituals. Not even a public statement of disapproval of disrespecting your holy animal? Interesting.
 
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True, it is sad it’s like that. Unfortunately for you modern governments don’t always represent the views of the common man in a said country.

I’ve met many Jordanians in my life in the Middle East, none of these fantasies Indians have about Jordanian civilians hating on Pakistanis has ever come up.

But it’s sad so many are willing to lick the dirt and blood off of Israeli soldiers boots while being ready to lynch anyone in India who even thinks of eating beef.

Yet are perfectly okay with Israel slaughtering Red Heifers over and over over for their rituals. Not even a public statement of disapproval of disrespecting your holy animal? Interesting.

There is your story about meeting Jordanians and then there is the actual position of Jordan on visas to pakistanis.

Israel isn't a province of India. They can do whatever they want in their country.
 
Jordan and Israel have been fairly close for a long time. At one time, Jordan was the only muslim country besides Turkey that had diplomatic relations with Israel. Reecently, Israel even helped Jordan modernize its air force by supplying them used F-16s and Cobra helicopters. So it is unlikely that any money was exchanged. Not all Arab muslim countries buy this Free Palestine rhetoric.

When you say Jordan has been close to Israel, you should probably acknowledge that the country is run by an unelected monarchy and the decisions of this monarchy do not necessarily reflect the wishes of the people of Jordan.

I don't know why indian posters are insisting on speaking on behalf of the people of Jordan, if you admire monarchies so much, open a thread on how Modi should be replaced by a self appointed King of Bharat.
 
When you say Jordan has been close to Israel, you should probably acknowledge that the country is run by an unelected monarchy and the decisions of this monarchy do not necessarily reflect the wishes of the people of Jordan.

I don't know why indian posters are insisting on speaking on behalf of the people of Jordan, if you admire monarchies so much, open a thread on how Modi should be replaced by a self appointed King of Bharat.
When I mentioned that Jordan and Israel have been close, I meant that their governments were, as evidenced by the fact that they have had diplomatic relations. And it is the Jordan government's decisions that matter, whether they are elected or not. I don't claim to be speaking on the behalf of anyone and neither should anyone else.
No one can tell what the Jordanian people really want until a neutral survey is conducted.
 
When I mentioned that Jordan and Israel have been close, I meant that their governments were, as evidenced by the fact that they have had diplomatic relations. And it is the Jordan government's decisions that matter, whether they are elected or not. I don't claim to be speaking on the behalf of anyone and neither should anyone else.
No one can tell what the Jordanian people really want until a neutral survey is conducted.

Now you want a neutral survey? :troll


How about just elections so the Jordanian people can vote their own leaders in like every other civilised country? If Indians admire Jordan closeness with Israel so much, why not kick out Modi and replace with a King of Bharat who can invite Netenyahu for chai and samosa parties and the rest of us can tell you what a great relationship both countries have.
 
you also wrote this

>>Pak will rightfully side with those who do not threaten it.<<<

I mean which one is it? PAk folds when threatened by US or it will side with those who don't threaten it?
The right one is what the rulers of Pak consider at the time. There are obvious contractions with Nawaz, Zardari and co.
 
What amongst Muslims?

Last time i checked Indians got a visa on arrival in Jordan while pakistanis couldn't.

So much for love of fellow Muslims by Jordan.
Last time I checked, an Indian vlogger got banned for entering an Israeli bar to celebrate the downed drones from Iran.
 
Doesn't matter if Indians love him or pakistanis hate him, his people are the Jordanians, they matter.
In that case, your love for the King and my opinion (whatever it is) don't matter to the King either neither do you trying to defend his decisions on an online forum.
 
In that case, your love for the King and my opinion (whatever it is) don't matter to the King either neither do you trying to defend his decisions on an online forum.

It doesn't matter. You think King Hussein is bothered that pakistanis hate him?

Heck Pakistani public's opinion don't matter to the ruler of Pakistan, you think it will matter to the ruler of Jordan?
 
They can try this stupidity to get more spanked
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Israel 'considered revenge attack on Monday' – as ex-Mossad intelligence chief says striking Iran's nuclear facilities 'on the table'

A former Israeli spy agency official says targeting nuclear facilities in Iran is "on the table" - as a report suggests Israel considered, but decided against striking Iran on Monday. Meanwhile, Iran's president warns the "tiniest move" against the country would bring a "fierce" response.

Source: Sky News
They wont get spanked but that would be disastrous.
 
Flip the table: would any Muslim country stop drones or other stuff enroute to Iran? No. That tells you everything.

News in that Isfahan has been attacked by Israel overnight. What were the dozens of nations around Iran doing? So much for the Ummah.
 
It doesn't matter. You think King Hussein is bothered that pakistanis hate him?

Heck Pakistani public's opinion don't matter to the ruler of Pakistan, you think it will matter to the ruler of Jordan?
Lol I already made it clear it doesn't bother him one bit whether people from Pak or India like or hate him. He probably doesn't care even if his own people like him or not.
It's not me who's telling Pakistani posters to not hate him because he is doing good and you are poor, your country is in tatters, and so on.
Everyone knows how anti Muslim and anti Pakistan you are. Pakistanis (not the government or the rulers here) support Palestine and denounce Israel because they feel it's the right thing to do morally, ethically and religiously. Many have been providing aid to the various NGOs etc working there for providing relief to the citizens living, getting injured and dying there as all Muslims SHOULD consider other Muslims their brothers.

Whereas you are just jumping around telling and quoting people not to hate Israel, justifying Jordan's decisions etc. You don't even have any affiliation with either Israel, Palestine or Jordan, whether in religiously, geopolitically, spiritually etc. You are just supporting them for the sake of your Islamophobic beliefs. I commend the good people in India whether Muslims or not, and worldwide who are actually seeing the monstrosity of Israel and the helplessness of Palestine. If you find amusement in all that, i have no words for that.
 
Flip the table: would any Muslim country stop drones or other stuff enroute to Iran? No. That tells you everything.

News in that Isfahan has been attacked by Israel overnight. What were the dozens of nations around Iran doing? So much for the Ummah.
The Ummah has been asleep for over a century. Think we all know that because the people in power have lost connection to their cores. That doesn't mean every average man who can barely make his ends meet in his own country isn't feeling helpless or angered by the actions of Israel and lack of action of rulers of Muslim countries. Making fun of religious terminology simply shows lack of class. If you find fun in mocking the miserable of thousands of people who have been dying due to inability of the rulers to stand together, that's just you.
 
Iranians, Arabs, Israelis and West all of them want Hamas and their masters Iran gone for good.

I hope it happens soon👍
 
Why only Jordan? No Arab country supports the Palestinians. Abdullah knows what side his bread is buttered on. Big Daddy Israel and the USA would bomb his little country like no ones business if he did anything else. The mighty Jordanian military wouldn't stand a chance :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: .
 
A passenger of two ships always sinks
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Tightrope: Jordan’s balancing act between Iran and Israel

The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan is caught between two regional powers and could face serious social, political and economic repercussions should regional tensions continue to intensify.

Jordan’s tenuous position means that any regional action – an intensification of hostilities between Iran and Israel or an Israeli invasion of Rafah – can have incendiary repercussions domestically.
“Any imminent Iranian-Israeli war is going to put Jordan on a tightrope,” Sean Yom, an expert on Jordan at Temple University and the author of From Resilience to Revolution, told Al Jazeera. “Publicly, it has to stay out of the fray; it cannot side with any combatant.”

Jordan has pushed for a ceasefire in Israel’s war on Gaza and publicised its aid distribution efforts in the besieged enclave.

But that has done little to appease the scores of protesters who have rallied outside the US and Israeli embassies. Among their demands are ending relations with Israel and the United States.

Source: Al Jazeera
 
Lol I already made it clear it doesn't bother him one bit whether people from Pak or India like or hate him. He probably doesn't care even if his own people like him or not.
It's not me who's telling Pakistani posters to not hate him because he is doing good and you are poor, your country is in tatters, and so on.
Everyone knows how anti Muslim and anti Pakistan you are. Pakistanis (not the government or the rulers here) support Palestine and denounce Israel because they feel it's the right thing to do morally, ethically and religiously. Many have been providing aid to the various NGOs etc working there for providing relief to the citizens living, getting injured and dying there as all Muslims SHOULD consider other Muslims their brothers.

Whereas you are just jumping around telling and quoting people not to hate Israel, justifying Jordan's decisions etc. You don't even have any affiliation with either Israel, Palestine or Jordan, whether in religiously, geopolitically, spiritually etc. You are just supporting them for the sake of your Islamophobic beliefs. I commend the good people in India whether Muslims or not, and worldwide who are actually seeing the monstrosity of Israel and the helplessness of Palestine. If you find amusement in all that, i have no words for that.
Brutal!

Also..well said
 
Brutal!

Also..well said
I doubt these guys would even feel it. Spreading hatred for Muslims and mocking religious terminology like "Ummah" is their bread and butter. They can't digest their food if they don't let others know on PP about their Islamophobic beliefs.
Ever heard one of us making fun of "om" "bhaarat mata" etc. nope. These people are full of vitriol.
 
I’d add covert aggressive too, but it goes both bro.
There are many Indian posters who are nice and respectable and don't just preach their hatred for Muslims and Pakistan in their every post. But when some guys jump in while being (na 3 main na 13 main), it just annoys me and I'm sure a lot of others get annoyed at it too. They are looking to pick up petty fights on social media with people they have nothing to do with.
 
I doubt these guys would even feel it. Spreading hatred for Muslims and mocking religious terminology like "Ummah" is their bread and butter. They can't digest their food if they don't let others know on PP about their Islamophobic beliefs.
Ever heard one of us making fun of "om" "bhaarat mata" etc. nope. These people are full of vitriol.
In a way the muslims have brought this upon themselves, sadly it will get worse as time passes until islam will become, well, a distant memory. Personally I hope im not around by then. Truly that will be difficult time.
 
In a way the muslims have brought this upon themselves, sadly it will get worse as time passes until islam will become, well, a distant memory. Personally I hope im not around by then. Truly that will be difficult time.
I find it astonishingly strange that a Muslim is saying this. No offense, but what makes you think so? Islam is the fastest growing religion according to statistics. Once again, I'm being completely respectful.
 
How is that working out with China and Pakistan?
Despite our differences with China, we still have excellent trade relations with them. As for Pakistan, everytime we have moved our hand forward we have been stabbed on the back. Whether it be Kargil, Parliament attack, Mumbai attacks, Uri attack, Pulwama attack, etc.
 
Don't think India has bad relations with any Islamic country bar Pakistan.

India doesn't even have good relations with their own Muslims let alone different countries. Your PM no less has been describing your Muslim population ifiltrators, go check the thread and various news headlines from yesterday.
 
Not when someone is trying to plot against India.
India still does billions of dollars worth trade with China.
India does not take sides in matters that to do not pertain to them.

What does Pakistan gain from plotting against India? If anything the argument is usually made the other way round, it is India who plots against Pakistan, via media, sports and trade embargos.
 
India doesn't even have good relations with their own Muslims let alone different countries. Your PM no less has been describing your Muslim population ifiltrators, go check the thread and various news headlines from yesterday.
Kindly let us know which Islamic nation bar Pakistan, India has bad relations with? Go ahead!
 
Kindly let us know which Islamic nation bar Pakistan, India has bad relations with? Go ahead!
Most Muslim countries outside of the subcontinent deal with India on a trade basis, good or bad relations are based on that. It is Indian Muslims and Pakistan who suffer from bad relations due to India's religious leadership which regards Islam as the enemy.
 

Jordan slams ‘extremist Israeli settlers’ for dumping Gaza aid truck contents on street​


Jordan accuses “extremist Israeli settlers” of attacking two Jordanian aid convoys carrying food to Gaza this morning, one through Kerem Shalom and one through the newly opened crossing into the northern Gaza Strip.

The two convoys, organized by the Jordanian Hashemite Charitable Organization, the UN World Food Program, and British, South African, and American charities, had some of their goods dumped onto the street, according to Jordan.

The Israeli organization Tzav 9, which opposes aid being sent to Gaza while hostages are still being held there, organized a demonstration at the Allenby Crossing between Israel and Jordan overnight to block the convoys. Images on social media showed young women sitting on the road in front of a truck, while other demonstrators held Israeli flags and pictures of the hostages. There were no signs of violence in any of the footage.

The IDF declared the area around the crossing a closed military zone overnight.

Jordan’s Foreign Ministry releases a statement saying that Israel failed in its obligations to allow aid to enter Gaza. The two convoys did reach their intended destinations.

Amman also calls on the international community to punish Israel for the incidents.

The Foreign Ministry tells The Times of Israel that it has received no official communication on the matter from Jordan.

 

Jordan Says Palestine Recognition 'Important Step Towards Two-state Solution'​


Jordan hailed a coordinated move by Ireland, Norway and Spain on Wednesday to recognise the State of Palestine as an "important and essential step towards Palestinian statehood".

"We value this decision and consider it an important and essential step towards a two-state solution that embodies an independent, sovereign Palestinian state along the July 1967 borders," Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi told a press conference.

 

Jordan jails journalist over report on 'land corridor' with Israel​


Jordanian journalist Hiba Abu Taha has been sentenced to a year in prison for publishing a report that exposed Jordan’s alleged role in exporting goods to Israel through a land corridor.

The report, entitled “Partners in genocide... Jordanian capital involved in genocide in the Gaza Strip" was published in Annasher, an Lebanese media outlet.

It describes the involvement of some Jordanian companies in shipping goods to Israel through a land corridor.

In February, Jordanian Prime Minister Bisher Khasawneh denied the existence of a land route from his country to Israel, describing reports alleging so as “fabrications”.

He further stated that transport routes in and out of Jordan have not been changed in the last 25 years.

The verdict comes after Abu Taha was arrested for a week in May after a complaint filed against her by the Jordanian Media Commission for her report.

Her lawyer will submit an appeal against the sentence, local media outlets reported.

Abu Taha is charged with “inciting strife and spreading false news” under the country’s cybercrime law.

Last year, Jordan's King Abdullah II approved the controversial cybercrime law which has been decried by rights groups and journalists as an attack on free speech.

The bill, which has been passed by both houses of parliament, comes as authorities crack down on journalists and writers over posts on social media.

Rights groups have denounced the "draconian" bill for using "imprecise, vague and undefined terminology" such as "fake news", "promoting, instigating, aiding or inciting immorality", "online assassination of personality", "provoking strife", "undermining national unity" and "contempt for religions".

According to the Committee to Protect Journalists, Abu Taha contributes to several media outlets, including Jordan Today, Al Jazeera and the Beirut-based investigative journalism website Daraj.

The Center for Defending Freedom of Journalists (CDFJ), a Jordanian non-governmental organisation, has denounced the ruling and called for the "abolition of freedom-depriving provisions in publishing cases".

Since war broke out in Gaza on 7 October, Jordan has been cracking down on journalism and activism, especially after demonstrations at the Israeli embassy in Amman in March.

Human rights groups, including Amnesty and Human Rights Watch, have called on Jordan to end its targeting of journalists and pro-Palestine activists.

In August 2023, Abu Taha was briefly detained on charges of writing an online post against Jordanian King Abdullah II.

Her charge was “defaming an official institution”, based on Article 191 of the Penal Code and Article 15 of the Cybercrime Law.

She was sentenced to three months' imprisonment and was fined.

Abu Taha had earlier told Middle East Eye she was surprised that a post she published on Facebook brought a charge of defaming an institution even though the king is not an institution according to article 191. Instead, if they wanted, "they could have charged me with defaming the king (article 195) in the same penal code".

 

Jordan says it won’t deploy troops in Gaza to replace Israeli forces​


Jordan said Wednesday it will not send troops to the Gaza Strip to replace Israeli forces in the Palestinian enclave.

“We will not clean up after [Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu,” Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi told a joint press conference with his Greek counterpart Giorgos Gerapetritis in Athens.

“We will not deploy troops to Gaza as a substitute for Israeli forces or place ourselves in the catastrophic reality he (Netanyahu) has created,” he added.

Israeli national security adviser Tzachi Hanegbi said Tuesday evening that an alternative to Hamas in Gaza would emerge with a new policy in the coming days, acknowledging the difficulty of eradicating the group entirely.

“What we seek is a comprehensive plan, not only to halt the war but also to achieve a just and comprehensive peace based on a two-state solution,” Safadi said.

“This essentially means that any approach dealing with Gaza cannot be separate from the rest of the occupied Palestinian territories,” he added.

The top Jordanian diplomat highlighted the danger of a regional spillover from the Gaza conflict.

“The Israeli government does not want peace, and we cannot allow the war on Gaza to persist (…). It must cease,” Safadi said.

Israel, flouting a UN Security Council resolution demanding an immediate cease-fire, has faced international condemnation amid its continued brutal offensive on Gaza since an Oct. 7, 2023 attack by Palestinian group Hamas.

More than 37,700 Palestinians have since been killed in Gaza, most of them women and children, and nearly 86,400 others injured, according to local health authorities.

Over eight months into the Israeli war, vast tracts of Gaza lie in ruins amid a crippling blockade of food, clean water and medicine.

Israel stands accused of genocide at the International Court of Justice, whose latest ruling ordered Tel Aviv to immediately halt its military operation in the southern city of Rafah, where over a million Palestinians had sought refuge from the war before it was invaded on May 6.

 
Jordan’s top diplomat condemns Israeli attack on UN convoy in Gaza

We have quoted the UNRWA chief as saying that Israeli forces shot at a UN convoy heading to Gaza City yesterday, despite the movement being coordinated and approved by Israeli authorities.

Jordan’s Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi condemned the attack, saying it was “a war crime”, calling for the protection of UNRWA and other humanitarian teams “from Israeli occupation forces and war crimes”.

“Gaza has not only become a graveyard for children. It has become a graveyard for international law, a shameful stain on whole international order,” Safadi added.

Al Jazeera
 

Jordan’s top diplomat holds talks in Iran amid increased tensions​


Jordan’s Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi held talks Sunday with officials in Iran, as fears of an escalation between Tehran and Israel grew following the killing of Hamas chief Ismael Haniyeh.

The political head of Palestinian militant group Hamas was killed early on Wednesday in Tehran, where he was attending the inauguration of Iran’s President Masoud Pezeshkian.

Iran and the Hamas militants, which Tehran supports, vowed to retaliate and blamed the strike on Israel, which has declined to comment.

ISNA news agency said Safadi “met and held consultations with” acting foreign minister Ali Bagheri-Kani after landing in Tehran for a rare visit.

Earlier the official news agency IRNA said that Safadi would “exchange views with Iranian officials on regional and international issues” during his visit to Tehran, and would be meeting Bagheri-Kani.

The Jordanian foreign ministry said Safadi would deliver a message from King Abdullah II to the Iranian president on “the situation in the region and bilateral relations.”

The royal court in Amman meanwhile said that King Abdullah had received a phone call from French President Emmanuel Macron “which covered the dangerous situation in the region.”

The king appealed “further international efforts to reach comprehensive calm and prevent a regional expansion of the conflict,” a statement said.

Iran has held talks with multiple Arab countries including Jordan, Egypt, Oman and Qatar among others since Haniyeh’s killing.

Tehran repeatedly reaffirmed its “inherent right” to take action against Israel.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says his country is at “a very high level” of preparedness for any scenario -- “defensive and offensive.”

Haniyeh’s killing came hours after Israel killed a senior commander of the Lebanese Tehran-backed Hezbollah militant group, Fuad Shukr, which Israel blamed for a deadly weekend rocket strike on the Israeli-annexed Golan Heights.

Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) said Haniyeh was killed by a “short-range projectile” launched from outside his accommodation in northern Tehran.

Israeli military spokesman Daniel Hagari had earlier told journalists “there was no other Israeli aerial attack... in all the Middle East” on the night Shukr was killed in Lebanon.

The dual killings are the latest of several major incidents that have inflamed regional tensions during the Gaza war, which has drawn in Iran-backed militant groups in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Yemen.

 
Iran can literally do more damage to Israel without dropping a single bomb in Israel.

Take out the King of Jordan, eliminate Sisi, force your way into Palestine through the Egyptian border.

Iran has nothing to lose.
 
Iran can literally do more damage to Israel without dropping a single bomb in Israel.

Take out the King of Jordan, eliminate Sisi, force your way into Palestine through the Egyptian border.

Iran has nothing to lose.
Very silly thought process, Iran has everything to lose.. Israel Saudi US are undermining Iranian Ayotollah supremacy in the region
 
Iran can literally do more damage to Israel without dropping a single bomb in Israel.

Take out the King of Jordan, eliminate Sisi, force your way into Palestine through the Egyptian border.

Iran has nothing to lose.

Jordan is an ally of the West.
 
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Very silly thought process, Iran has everything to lose.. Israel Saudi US are undermining Iranian Ayotollah supremacy in the region

You can’t just sit back and let Mossad assassinate Generals, leaders and scientists in your own territory.

Iran could easily eliminate the king of Jordan and the president of Egypt indirectly. It’ll take months to plan but if the above scenario was to occur, then Isreal will literally be surrounded by countries that will offer them no help against Hezbollah.
 
The king and the royal family are allies of the west. Get rid of them and you have a country full of people that are ready to fight against Israel.
On keyboards. Not on the ground. If the average Jordanian really wanted to fight for or help the Palestinians, there's a million ways they could've done that.

I thought you were being sarcastic when you suggested your assassination plots. It seems you're actually serious and think it will make a difference.
 
On keyboards. Not on the ground. If the average Jordanian really wanted to fight for or help the Palestinians, there's a million ways they could've done that.

I thought you were being sarcastic when you suggested your assassination plots. It seems you're actually serious and think it will make a difference.

I’m just saying what the US does in the Middle East and South America, Iran needs to do the same 🤷🏻‍♂️

It’s harder to target Israel than it is to target Egypt and Jordan.
 
I’m just saying what the US does in the Middle East and South America, Iran needs to do the same 🤷🏻‍♂️

It’s harder to target Israel than it is to target Egypt and Jordan.
It's taken the US (and it's tail Israel) years and billions to develop the kind of Elint, Sigint and Humint needed to be able to execute these targeted assassination plots and for all the years and money spent, I doubt they've achieved anything significant from them. You kill Suleimani, the next guy in line steps up. You kill Haniyeh, the next kid takes his place. These guys are in most cases figureheads.

Iran firstly does not have the time and resources to do this. And secondly if it did, shouldn't bother. Asassisations of Heads of State are near impossible and pointless except in strategy video games and Hollywood movies.
 
You kill Suleimani, the next guy in line steps up.

So, let Israel kill your people because they can be replaced and do nothing?

Iran firstly does not have the time and resources to do this.

They have enough time to send missiles into Israel, that approach won’t make a difference.

Since you disagree with me, I assume you have a better plan for Iran?

My position is clear, Iran needs to somehow get the countries around Israel on their side, only way to do that is to eliminate those in power. It doesn’t mean the next in line will also be an ally of the west.
 
The king and the royal family are allies of the west. Get rid of them and you have a country full of people that are ready to fight against Israel.
Royals in Middle East always ally with West. They have to.

Muslim brotherhood will eat them in a day without the support of West.
 
So, let Israel kill your people because they can be replaced and do nothing?



They have enough time to send missiles into Israel, that approach won’t make a difference.

Since you disagree with me, I assume you have a better plan for Iran?

My position is clear, Iran needs to somehow get the countries around Israel on their side, only way to do that is to eliminate those in power. It doesn’t mean the next in line will also be an ally of the west.
Iran is all talk. They keep getting kicked in the mouth. All they do is vow for revenge.

Rinse and repeat.

If Iran really had the means to take on Israel, they would have done it by now. Since they don't have it in them, they resort to funding militant groups who does the dirty job for them.
 
Since they don't have it in them, they resort to funding militant groups who does the dirty job for them.

Most countries fight through proxy war, it doesn’t mean they don’t have the means to fight directly.

Iran imo isn’t capable of taking on Israel, so the only thing they’re left with is the countries that surround israel.
 
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