Usman Chadda
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An Asia Cup without Pakistan will be a joke. Who will they replace Pakistan with, Hong Kong?
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This is an arm-twisting tactic by BCCI. They always say GoI don't give them permission. This is their damn problem, not PCB's. When time of Bilateral series come they always say govt is not interested, however, when ICC/Asia cup comes, suddenly their Govt. becomes good host. This is all $$.
In 2015, they made noise, ohhh, Pakistan cant come in India for 2016 T20. And suddenly half of their Bollywood ******** are in Kolkata watching this game. If they are so patriotic, boycott the game.
If India refused to play with Pakistan in uae where no security concern involved then its Pakistan's turn to fight back with withdraw from Asia cup why favor Bcci when other don't care for you.....
Beggere are not choosers ... BCCI will decide whom and when and where Team India will play
Other boads can go to ICC and complain !
PCB will decide where, whom and when Pakistani team will play.
ECB will decide where, whom and when English team will play.
CA will decide where, whom and when Australian team will play.
It's the job of the governing board to decide where, with whom and when their teams will play.
What's your point?
It makes the WC encounter even more significant and lucrative.Cricket in the end suffers without Pakistan and India playing which is sad..
Sri Lanka is set to host the upcoming Men’s Asia Cup 2018 in September after, India, the original hosts, showed reluctance in having the Pakistan cricket team over, prompting the Asian Cricket Council (ACC) to change the venue of the tournament.....
“We are in the process of finalizing certain details of the tournament but the hosting rights have been given to Sri Lanka.”
An SLC official said
Source :thepapare
Have the BCCI now started picking and choosing what tournament they want to host?
Beggere are not choosers ... BCCI will decide whom and when and where Team India will play
Other boads can go to ICC and complain !![]()
True but call a spade a spade, BCCI and GOI are being hypocrates here. This is a game of cricket not financial business deals.
I’d rather they carry on hosting it in Bangladesh. It’s gonna be empty crowds in most matches if we’re playing it in Sri Lanka.
Atleast the bengali crowd shows up for neutral matches.
Nidahas trophy was well attended comparatively![]()
Bro ...PCB used the same tactic long back involving politics in cricket tours. Also recently, PCB not inviting BD team to UAE to avoid loses, so why double standards.
So no moral rights for PCB to question GoI/BCCI policies. PCB are biggest hypocrites in that sense.
End of the day, bilateral series will only happen when both boards are on same page, which will not going to happen in near future. End of debate on Indo-Pak bilaterals...
I love being in PP, will be the first person to wishing to see Ind - Pak test series any where on the planet, afraid will be dream for us to see it really happen !
Fair points. I am just sad politics is coming into play in this beautiful game. Either India, BD or Afg .. it should be played as a game not for politics.
They were t20s so they’ll naturally have higher attendances.
Isn't this tournament also T20s?
i’d rather they carry on hosting it in bangladesh. It’s gonna be empty crowds in most matches if we’re playing it in sri lanka.
Atleast the bengali crowd shows up for neutral matches.
If India refused to play with Pakistan in uae where no security concern involved then its Pakistan's turn to fight back with withdraw from Asia cup why favor Bcci when other don't care for you.....
so whats this time, t-20 or 50 overs format?
asia cup is the biggest hit in bd. Bcb ,no wonder ,wants it to arrange every time.
Then BCB shouldn't have stabbed BCCI in the back by voting against it in the ICC 'red wedding' that happened recently. Now BCCI's iron brother SLC will reap the rewards of loyalty!2
I have a feeling India will send a India A team. India would have come back from a grueling series in England and would be looking to get their backups tested.. Expect a low key team from India for Asia cup. I expect the cup to be won by either SL or Pak
Dude, PCB is one of the poorest boards. You talk like your board is dictating the proceedings. Later on don't whinge that bcci is bullying or isolating pcb, etc
PCB isn't one of the poorest boards, in the current ICC financial cycle it will be receiving the same amount as Cricket Australia, highlighting it's worth. Only the ECB and BCCI are worth more, and the latter is only worth more for the current cycle, after that it will receive money on the level of the ECB.
Compare the facilities in both countries. Pak requires more money per capita to match the resources provided in AUS
A - I did not reply to you, but since you have replied B - can you provide me with data that shows Pakistan has higher running costs than Australia and what percentage of the cut they should be receiving from the ICC?
Thanks.
A. This is not a one to one chat room. I can reply to anyone and anyone can reply to me.
B. I didn't say Pak has higher running costs. I said Pak needs more money per capita. You have more cricketers to train, more schools, colleges and more people than Australia. SO, you need more money per capita. Pakistan should receive atleast half of what BCCI gets to improve the game with good facilities.
This is where someone who is just spouting nonsense for the sake of hatred gets caught out. First you're saying you did not say running costs are higher but what you are describing is exactly running costs. You sound ridiculous, first stating the PCB is one of the poorer boards and when I dissect that lie of an argument with facts, you write something about "per capita"...per capita what? Who said costs would be higher within Pakistan? You do realise there are more rupees from US dollars than Aus dollars from US?
I'm done unless you can bring me financial evidence that I asked for.
Reading comprehension issues along with financial illeteracy can make one spout garbage like you just did. I can get that. However, the big issue with you is not being able to understand what per capita means. Per capita is "for each person". Considering Pakistan has more people, more cricket playing people, they will need more resources to maintain the same standards or facilities as Australia.
For example a person making 1000 dollars a month with a family of 2 has better quality of life than a person making the same amount of money with a family of 6 people. So, he needs more money to live a higher quality of life. The cost to build an academy might be cheaper in pakistan than in Australia due to convertion rates or what not, but you will need a lot more academies than Australia because you have more people. That's as clear as I can say.
I have a feeling India will send a India A team. India would have come back from a grueling series in England and would be looking to get their backups tested.. Expect a low key team from India for Asia cup. I expect the cup to be won by either SL or Pak
Then BCB shouldn't have stabbed BCCI in the back by voting against it in the ICC 'red wedding' that happened recently. Now BCCI's iron brother SLC will reap the rewards of loyalty!2
I know what per capita means but you are using that as a way of claiming the 130+ million US dollars Pakistan will receive over the current financial cycle of 4 years is not enough. In fact, I GUARANTEE YOU did not even know how much the PCB was receiving and probably thought it was on the same level as AF r something, hence your poor comment.
Now the question I asked you is very simple, why is a $130 million dollars + not enough for the PCB? Is the PCB, knowing what I have now told you, still one of the poorest boards? Or have you changed your opinion? And what data do you have that say, just because Pakistan may have more professional cricketers, its running costs, in US dollars, is higher than Aus? How much money is brought into the PCB via sponsorships which are separate from ICC cash? Why does that not help the domestic game? What about tv deals and international syndication?
Once again, I'll be waiting, for the final time, on you presenting me with financial data.
Asia Cup is not an ICC tournament, but an ACC tournament.
You can thank me later.
I know what per capita means but you are using that as a way of claiming the 130+ million US dollars Pakistan will receive over the current financial cycle of 4 years is not enough. In fact, I GUARANTEE YOU did not even know how much the PCB was receiving and probably thought it was on the same level as AF r something, hence your poor comment.
Now the question I asked you is very simple, why is a $130 million dollars + not enough for the PCB? Is the PCB, knowing what I have now told you, still one of the poorest boards? Or have you changed your opinion? And what data do you have that say, just because Pakistan may have more professional cricketers, its running costs, in US dollars, is higher than Aus? How much money is brought into the PCB via sponsorships which are separate from ICC cash? Why does that not help the domestic game? What about tv deals and international syndication?
Once again, I'll be waiting, for the final time, on you presenting me with financial data.
First of all, I did not say PCB is poor. Go read. I said PCB will need more money per capita than Australia.
1) PCB receives 128 mil. Also it is not for a 4 year cycle as you mentioned. It's over the cycle of 2016- 2023. That's for 8 years. That's about 16 million dollars a year.
2) As per tribune.com.pk, the TV broadcast rights are worth 150 mil from 2015 to 2020. However, 60 percent of that is subject to India touring Pakistan. Since that ain't happening, add 60 mil for the 5 year cycle and that comes down to 12 mil per year.
3) As per reports, PSL earned close to 5 million dollars of profit last year. The numbers are not out yet for this year. The broadcast deal for 4 years was 15 mil as per ipfs below. Sponsorship deals associated including the title deal is upwards of 6 miliion.
As per defence.pk, PCB spends about 43 million on national and international cricket every year.
When you look at all the revenues, it tops out at 40 mil. I might have not included other sources but these are the major streams of revenue. There is also a one time revenue of 93 mil from selling the franchises.
The point is, PCB doesn't make much. Hence the anxiety about India series. Where is the money for grass roots development? The facilities as per many posters here are bad because of a reason. PCB needs lot more money than ACB because ACB is projected to make close to 800 million AUD just from television rights in the next cycle starting this year. They don't necessarily need a handout from ICC compared to Pakistan
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pakistan-cricket-boards-43-million-revenue-and-budget.493506/
https://tribune.com.pk/story/862982/pcb-sells-broadcasting-rights-for-150m/
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Pakistan_Super_League.html
Where is the source saying PSL2 made 5mn in profits? Did they release the figures?
Remember reading it on Dawn. Can't find the source now
Pls anyone confirm when did pcb sold their tv and digital rights for bilaterals and for how many years?
https://tribune.com.pk/story/862982/pcb-sells-broadcasting-rights-for-150m/
60% money depends on India tour
Thankshttps://tribune.com.pk/story/862982/pcb-sells-broadcasting-rights-for-150m/
60% money depends on India tour
As an Indian fan, I dont understand why the govt or BCCI wont play the Asia cup and not tour UAE. When was the last time India had a test series with Pakistan. I think it was in 2008 or something. There would be a renewed interest to see Kohli v Amir just as it was between Sachin and Wasim. We are playing in SL when their army shoots and kills Tamil Nadu fisherman. Asia cup would be nothing without India or Pakistan and a weak SL team is not going to help it either.
First of all, I did not say PCB is poor. Go read. I said PCB will need more money per capita than Australia.
1) PCB receives 128 mil. Also it is not for a 4 year cycle as you mentioned. It's over the cycle of 2016- 2023. That's for 8 years. That's about 16 million dollars a year.
2) As per tribune.com.pk, the TV broadcast rights are worth 150 mil from 2015 to 2020. However, 60 percent of that is subject to India touring Pakistan. Since that ain't happening, add 60 mil for the 5 year cycle and that comes down to 12 mil per year.
3) As per reports, PSL earned close to 5 million dollars of profit last year. The numbers are not out yet for this year. The broadcast deal for 4 years was 15 mil as per ipfs below. Sponsorship deals associated including the title deal is upwards of 6 miliion.
As per defence.pk, PCB spends about 43 million on national and international cricket every year.
When you look at all the revenues, it tops out at 40 mil. I might have not included other sources but these are the major streams of revenue. There is also a one time revenue of 93 mil from selling the franchises.
The point is, PCB doesn't make much. Hence the anxiety about India series. Where is the money for grass roots development? The facilities as per many posters here are bad because of a reason. PCB needs lot more money than ACB because ACB is projected to make close to 800 million AUD just from television rights in the next cycle starting this year. They don't necessarily need a handout from ICC compared to Pakistan
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pakistan-cricket-boards-43-million-revenue-and-budget.493506/
https://tribune.com.pk/story/862982/pcb-sells-broadcasting-rights-for-150m/
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Pakistan_Super_League.html
Where is the source saying PSL2 made 5mn in profits? Did they release the figures?
I person I replied to originally said "Dude, PCB is one of the poorest boards."
Now you replied AGAINST my point, which means you were either in favour of what he was saying OR you should not have butted in.
Since you have done so, you have failed to highlight, for the 5th post in a row, the running costs of what is happening. Good bye.
ACC or ICC. There's only one Don who calls the shots. And one that runs behind him screaming "MoU! MoU!"
Its amazing how proud some Indian fans are of their board being a bully. I guess ethics/morals dont really mean much to some people.
When ENG and AUS literally bullying all SC boards no one complained.... Tables have turned for good![]()
So two wrongs make a right? if what Eng/Aus did was wrong than why repeat the same thing?
Its amazing how proud some Indian fans are of their board being a bully. I guess ethics/morals dont really mean much to some people.
Ethics/ morals have no value in this world, $$$ is everything, For example see the Chinese they steal, blackmail the western companies and take their technology by using their big market as bargain and now they are force, they didn't wait until somebody come and help or go begging for help, they found their own way by hook or crook
BCB already reap the rewards 3 times in a row. Other should get at least once,isn't it?Then BCB shouldn't have stabbed BCCI in the back by voting against it in the ICC 'red wedding' that happened recently. Now BCCI's iron brother SLC will reap the rewards of loyalty!2
Asia cup is another irrelevant ridiculous tournament which defines the mediocrity of cricket these days.
India should withdraw themselves from that series and play a tri-series with Australia and South Africa( these two are having a bilateral series during the same time).
BCB already reap the rewards 3 times in a row. Other should get at least once,isn't it?
Waiting for another naagin dance, brawl and some exciting matches......I can't wait....