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Not sure but is it natural?

I would change my action in nearly every net session and I am never consistent with my action.

In 2009 when I started playing I had Harimson/Flintoff action and I would bowl brilliantly but later I said I don't want Harimson action then I changed to Waqar, Akhtar, Mohammad Asif, Amir etc and now I am not able to find which one is natural for me :))
 
Same story is with me :d I can bowl with almost every action although not perfect,

Thing is with different actions you have different benefits as when i do the Shoaib Akhtar's action i bowl at a better pace but my i hardly have any control on my line , when i do malinga's action the ball doesn't bounce much and easy to get wickets but that way i ball lots of wides down the leg , and than its my action which is a bit like UmarGul i get the best control and pace isn;t bad but i do use other actions to confuse batsmen :D
 
Try bowling with a new ball and than target a line and length and bowl with different actions see which one is the best for you :D am non expert but i think it will work
 
Forget emulating certain players' actions, focus on getting your rhythm right, like your front foot landing as your bowling arm comes over etc.
 
Try bowling with a new ball and than target a line and length and bowl with different actions see which one is the best for you :D am non expert but i think it will work

Nah you need lots of skills to bowl with new bowl, it swings etc etc
 
Same here with the action thingy with my normal action i get natural swing but whenever i doesnt work for me i decide to change my action for no reason
 
Same here with the action thingy with my normal action i get natural swing but whenever i doesnt work for me i decide to change my action for no reason

Your action HAS to be consistent, if it's not then forget about your line, length and movement being consistent. If you want to understand why the ball isn't swinging, take into account weather and what not but more importantly, the subtle things like wrist position and release.
 
Your action HAS to be consistent, if it's not then forget about your line, length and movement being consistent. If you want to understand why the ball isn't swinging, take into account weather and what not but more importantly, the subtle things like wrist position and release.

Thanks Shirazi

Another thing I want to ask. I want to know if its OK that you can make little adjustments to your action because the old action I had was killing my body and I couldn't stand it so I decide to give some minor tweaks. Is that something I shouldn't do? I'm 15 BTW
 
Thankfully my action's always been fairly consistent, the key is you have to be comfortable with it. Every bowler is different, don't try to copy your friend.
 
Thanks Shirazi

Another thing I want to ask. I want to know if its OK that you can make little adjustments to your action because the old action I had was killing my body and I couldn't stand it so I decide to give some minor tweaks. Is that something I shouldn't do? I'm 15 BTW

You shouldn't be bowling with your action at all if it's killing your body, especially not at 15. At that age you're more flexible and bowling shouldn't hurt unless you're doing it wrong.

I'd suggest asking a coach for help on correcting your flaws though if that's no possible, there are some wonderful video resources on Youtube.
 
You shouldn't be bowling with your action at all if it's killing your body, especially not at 15. At that age you're more flexible and bowling shouldn't hurt unless you're doing it wrong.

I'd suggest asking a coach for help on correcting your flaws though if that's no possible, there are some wonderful video resources on Youtube.

Thanks again
 
Before I was slightly like Malinga, but now I've changed to a spinner with an Abdur Rehman-esque action.
 
Same problem with me, i use to bowl the Sohail Tanvir action, but i wasn't able to bet pace on the ball like that. I 'm comfortable with the Wahab Riaz action as it's easy, but i awlays wanted to bowl like the Rawalpindi Express.
 
Same problem with me, i use to bowl the Sohail Tanvir action, but i wasn't able to bet pace on the ball like that. I 'm comfortable with the Wahab Riaz action as it's easy, but i awlays wanted to bowl like the Rawalpindi Express.

Haha LOL :)) - Same here, for some reason I always tried to copy Shoaib Akhtar's action LOL
 
Haha LOL :)) - Same here, for some reason I always tried to copy Shoaib Akhtar's action LOL

There is something special about his action, the way he threw the ball, the way he celebrated when he would shattered the stumps.

You just want to be like him.
 
There is something special about his action, the way he threw the ball, the way he celebrated when he would shattered the stumps.

You just want to be like him.

True.

But since it was sidearm/slinngly action it is difficult to mould.

Action can take ages. It took Imran Khan six years and he is the only bowler who completely changed his action.

Today at nets I used natural action which looks like Dale Steyn and Dwayne Bravo, pace was not there but line and length was very good and I was hitting the seam.
 
Anyone who can suggest a good ball release tips?

At county level we've been taught the importance of releasing the ball as early as possible.

It's essential for an pace/medium artistic to release the cherry as soon as possible... Ideal way, has improved me big time.

I usually tend to release the ball when my arm is right above my shoulder.

See below. When the arm is right above the shoulder - where his ear is, that's the ideal position and time to realise it. When releasing it with what I've adviced, make sure your head is straight until your follow through, when you try this with a hard ball... Do let me know if it makes a difference! :D

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I was a county player last season for Glamorgan - even earned one cap for Wales U16s. However as for now... No I'm not a county player. Although I have trials coming up in mid March. :)
 
I was a county player last season for Glamorgan - even earned one cap for Wales U16s. However as for now... No I'm not a county player. Although I have trials coming up in mid March. :)

Really, that's great. I assume your a bowler than?
 
Indeed. Left arm medium fast - there's a thread which includes a clip of me bowling, should be somewhere in the timepass section. :)



:))

Can you help me find that video please, I've looked for it but unfortunately can't find it anywhere? :(

Thank you.
 
Salaam.

Is it because you guys are not match bowlers in your team and only net bowlers? Or do you bowl in matches? I am probably the worst net bowler for my team. Start bowling spin and almost every batsmen hit me here and there, then I change my action just make something up and get even more phainty. Then I start joking around doing funny run ups etc :facepalm: Suddently I decide do bowl medium and bowl a couple of good deliveries until I get ismashed again :afridi
 
Salaam.

Is it because you guys are not match bowlers in your team and only net bowlers? Or do you bowl in matches? I am probably the worst net bowler for my team. Start bowling spin and almost every batsmen hit me here and there, then I change my action just make something up and get even more phainty. Then I start joking around doing funny run ups etc :facepalm: Suddently I decide do bowl medium and bowl a couple of good deliveries until I get ismashed again :afridi

I don't bowl in matches because we have a very very good bowling attack and I don't qualify for that, full honest reply there really.

In nets I do bowl well somehow, maybe because of the bounce I get off the surface.
 
Well, I guess the key is to build up your bowling action over a period of time. ie. I used to have a James Anderson'ish bowling action but I kept injuring my ankle. So I tried adjusting that and kept adjusting little stuff eg. release, run up, the way my arm goes through etc. until eventually I reached an action I was comfortable with (:cheema ish, minus the outwards jump) and everything else fell into place,. Bottom line don't try to copy anyone's action, just find one to start off with and adjust you problems one by one until you can't find any flaws in it.
 
Not sure but is it natural?

I would change my action in nearly every net session and I am never consistent with my action.

In 2009 when I started playing I had Harimson/Flintoff action and I would bowl brilliantly but later I said I don't want Harimson action then I changed to Waqar, Akhtar, Mohammad Asif, Amir etc and now I am not able to find which one is natural for me :))

you must join pak team with such a variety of natural actions bro :manzoor

you must be ripping right through opposition line ups :kami

could you detail us amateurs a bit on the differences between the actions of the above mentioned bowlers, kindly, thanks...
 
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you didnt got me,

i was just saying that i am impressed/shocked how the op has so many great bowlers actions under his belt... :facepalm: :zoni :facepalm:

so you saying waqar's action is complicated is just nonsense ;-) ;-)
 
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i was just saying that i am impressed/shocked how the op has so many great bowlers actions under his belt... :facepalm: :zoni :facepalm:

so you saying waqar's action is complicated is just nonsense ;-) ;-)

waqar's action is not complicated. I remember a player from srilanka who had the exact action. I don't recall his name.
 
Theo_14 made a good point about releasing the ball. I used to copy alan donald( he had a good action) and later Glen Mcgrath. Later I was bowling same over with different actions, imagine that I was more worried about action than line and length and smacked all over the park for three sixes at a club game lesson learnt action is important pick an action which is natural(you feel comfortable) to you but concentrate on line and length and finally stop emulating players.
 
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waqar's action is not complicated. I remember a player from srilanka who had the exact action. I don't recall his name.

lol, op can take a back seat and you can take the hot seat... i would really like to see this... do you realize how many great cricketing bowlers we have had over time, yet no one comes and starts with a ditto style as one of the legends because we all have a particular style of our own due to our bio-dynamics... its really really tough to go and copy styles and bowl like that, if it were possible, all the pro cricketers would be simply copying the styles of legends... you learn a few things from them, but can't really copy them, if you manage to copy them you can't execute the styles... however, i have seen the op play, he is a friend of mine, and sorry to say, but I have not seen to date any resemblance of style from him of any of the bowler's he has mentioned... and i hope i am not holding a debate here with pre-teens, if i am then you win... i must be wrong... :asif
 
Theo_14 made a good point about releasing the ball. I used to copy alan donald( he had a good action) and later Glen Mcgrath. Later I was bowling same over with different actions, imagine that I was more worried about action than line and length and smacked all over the park for three sixes at a club game lesson learnt action is important pick an action which is natural(you feel comfortable) to you but concentrate on line and length and finally stop emulating players.

not a bad choice of words... you only have your own action, which if it isn't perfect, only needs a little bit of tweaking, no one goes to a bowler with slight action problem, "you know what, i want you to bowl with mcgrath's action or like steyn etc..." only if it were that simple.... at club level cricket lolz, half the guys don't even know what they just pitched and get all giddy about it...

reminds me of the time a dude one of my former team picked up mid way through the season came on to bowling, and got the batsman to play and miss the ball, next he starts telling me to go to field at GULLY position, to which i just put thumbs up to him as if DONE... and he yells again "go to GULLY dude, i need you there"... and i replied... "I AM AT GULLY POSITION MY FRIEND" "oh that's gully ok ya i want you there", "sure thing boss"... sigh, you gotta love club cricket and what comes with it...
 
waqar's action is not complicated. I remember a player from srilanka who had the exact action. I don't recall his name.

Dammika Prasad.

Also, Waqar's action may not tough but I think it puts a lot of stress on the body..
 
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There is something special about his action, the way he threw the ball, the way he celebrated when he would shattered the stumps.........
thanx........
 
My right arm medium fast is modelled after a hybrid of aaqib javed and shaun pollock.
left arm spinners after abdur rehman
right arm offspinners like saeed ajmal offcourse
and right arm leggies like i dont know who. Probably resembles piyush chawla. lol

yes i bowl all four but only in nets. In matches, its always leg spin
 
I use Dale Steyn's action for bowling action and it works out for me. It depends on what you are comfortable with. I have a comfortable fit with the action!
 
I used to have the same problem.

Just find which action you have best control with. Then try to increase the pace with that action and attempt to maintain your control. You can slightly modify an action for different deliveries e.g. become slightly more round-arm for yorkers.
 
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