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KABUL, Afghanistan — Afghan military helicopters bombed a religious gathering in the northern province of Kunduz on Monday, killing at least 70 people and wounding 30 others, according to a local official in the area.

The official, Nasruddin Saadi, district governor of Dasht-e-Archi, said that the helicopters attacked a religious ceremony for which about 1,000 people had assembled in a mosque and surrounding fields around noon.

Witnesses reached by telephone said that the mosque was also a madrasa, or religious school, and that members of the Taliban had been present at the assembly, which had been organized to recognize graduates, appoint mullahs and elevate junior mullahs.

Mr. Saadi also said that the event was religious in nature and that the security forces had decided to attack because armed militants were in attendance.

However, Brig. Gen. Mohammad Radmanish, a spokesman for the Defense Ministry denied that the gathering had been for religious purposes. “The Taliban and other insurgent groups were planning to attack Afghan forces, but their plan was discovered by our forces,” he said.

“During the attack by our helicopters, 21 terrorists, including a Taliban commander, have been killed,” he added. “It isn’t a residential area, and only terrorists and the Taliban were active in the place. There wasn’t any civilian in the area.”


Nonetheless, witnesses said that children and other civilians were among the victims.

The district of Dasht-e-Archi is a Taliban stronghold that has often been the scene of heavy fighting. In May, an American drone strike in the district killed Mullah Abdul Salam, the Taliban “shadow governor” of Kunduz.

In 2016, an Afghan airstrike killed another prominent Taliban commander, Mawlavi Muawiyah, in Dasht-e-Archi, along with 21 other fighters, according to the military. American airstrikes in the area have repeatedly been blamed for civilian casualties, and Afghan forces are increasingly taking over air operations there.

A 40-year-old farmer from the district, who gave his name only as Mohammad, said that there had been a small number of armed Taliban fighters among the crowd at the assembly, but that most of the attendees were civilians, including madrasa students and graduates. He said that many children had been present, and that the first rockets fired by the helicopters had hit a group of youngsters. The farmer was unable to say how many had been killed or hurt, but added that one of the wounded was his nephew, age 10.

“Children come to any gathering where there is a free lunch,” he said.

A spokesman for the Taliban, Zabihullah Mujahid, said that the death toll was far higher than the official figure and that no insurgents had been present at the gathering, which was strictly religious in nature. Many Taliban commanders are also mullahs.

“Bombing civilians and then calling them mujahedeen is a habit of the Americans and their slaves,” Mr. Mujahid said, adding that 150 people had died in the military strike. “Those responsible for killing civilians and insulting religion will be brought to justice.”

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/02/world/asia/afghanistan-taliban-kunduz.html
 
What a way for the Afghan military to ingratiate themselves with the Afghan civilian population and turn them away from supporting the Afghan Taliban. A massive own goal, nay a hat-trick, by the Afghan army and the Afghan government.
 
Such incompetent people. No wonder hope of peace is nowhere to be found.
 
Thats how you create more and more Taliban. Well done Afghan Govt, Afghan Army and of-course Uncle Sam

RIP kids

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More then 40 top Taliban leaders and commanders were also killed and they were the target. Th
 
More then 40 top Taliban leaders and commanders were also killed and they were the target. Th

Are you from that district? The locals there are saying that it was mostly civilians who were killed. While I can appreciate you want the Taliban killed, those who live there might not consider their families as acceptable collateral damage.
 
More then 40 top Taliban leaders and commanders were also killed and they were the target. Th

Even if I buy the excuse. Why target such a sensitive place which is sure to get the public angered and play right into Taliban's hand. A mosque isn't a hotel. Sooner or later the fighters would have left the place. Tactics and out of the box thinking are required to defeat the enemy.

There are countless incidents of Taliban fighters openly parading without fearing any consequences. That's when an airstrike should happen. Most often than not the Afghan forces like to shoot themselves in the foot.
 
Even if I buy the excuse. Why target such a sensitive place which is sure to get the public angered and play right into Taliban's hand. A mosque isn't a hotel. Sooner or later the fighters would have left the place. Tactics and out of the box thinking are required to defeat the enemy.

There are countless incidents of Taliban fighters openly parading without fearing any consequences. That's when an airstrike should happen. Most often than not the Afghan forces like to shoot themselves in the foot.

Wasn't Ghani govt and Uncle Sam ready to talk with Taliban again?
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">& this is exactly how they tried to spin the last <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KunduzMassacre?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KunduzMassacre</a> at MSF hospital<br><br>1st they said we didnt know it was MSF hospital<br>Then they said there wr Taliban there<br>When MSF disproved both claims, they said there was undercover ISI james bond who was leading the entire battle</p>— Asfandyar Bhittani (@BhittaniKhannnn) <a href="https://twitter.com/BhittaniKhannnn/status/981219642105573376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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inna lillahi wainna ilaihi rajioon. Nobody is bothered about innocent children being martyred but more concerned about celebrity deaths
 
More then 40 top Taliban leaders and commanders were also killed and they were the target. Th

Do you actually believe this nonsense your puppet government spewed out? 40 Taliban leaders are going to all be in one place waiting to be bombed? Let me guess you also believe the children killed were human shields?

As an Afghan you haven't even wished a prayer for the children but have only appeared to defend their deaths. Are you really an Afghan?
 
Afghanistan must bring the Taliban to the table. Blaming Pakistan will not help matters. There pathetic military have no chance of doing a Zarb-e-Azb type operation. It is incredibly sad too see what is happening to Afghan people. Even though they've always been anti-Pak prior to the Soviet invasion they were a rather progressive people. Perhaps they should now stop celebrating the many innocents who have died in Pakistan over the last twenty years.
 
What a massive tragedy, RIP all innocent victims :(

How incompetent and useless is Afghan Army? If they had news about Taliban leaders hiding there, surely they could've waited till this ceremony was over?

Do they think extremism will reduce with such actions? This will produce many more Talibans than they managed to kill. This is not even a news on international media, if it was anywhere in Europe, they would mourn for a year at least.
 
Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un. Contradicting statements from Afghan officials. Karzai and Afghan ambassador to Pakistan Omar Zakhilwal also condemned the airstikes.

A spokesman for the Afghan Ministry of Defense, Gen. Mohammad Radmanish, said Afghan helicopters attacked a Taliban stronghold in a location that was being used as a training camp for the group in Dashti Archi district, near Kunduz city and the Tajikistan border. Foreign fighters from Tajikistan and Uzbekistan were among the people killed in the strike, the general added.

But other Afghan officials disputed that point. Abdullah Qarloq, a senator from the district, said the Afghan military struck the Akhundzada Gojor madrassa, or religious school, during a graduation ceremony. Several hundred people were present at the time, and those killed included both civilians and Taliban members, he said.

“What I know and have heard is that 200 people have been killed and wounded, both civilians who were studying there and armed Taliban,” the senator said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/afghan-air-force-faces-criticism-after-reports-that-airstrike-on-taliban-target-killed-civilians/2018/04/03/c0e4d432-3755-11e8-af3c-2123715f78df_story.html?utm_term=.7c6eee94935d
 
The numbers are between 150 to 250 now : (

Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un

RIP kids
 
Puppet government getting desperate, should just hand over the country to the Taliban and save a lot of bloodshed
 
Do you actually believe this nonsense your puppet government spewed out? 40 Taliban leaders are going to all be in one place waiting to be bombed? Let me guess you also believe the children killed were human shields?

As an Afghan you haven't even wished a prayer for the children but have only appeared to defend their deaths. Are you really an Afghan?


As it can be seen in my post the post was incomplete, the post was posted by mistake and when I went back to edit it and write the rest of my post , I wrote and clicked confirm . Then I got a message that “ you can only edit your post after 2 minutes “!

So yeah, the prayer doesn’t have to be written on PP for it to be accepted.


Yes I am an Afghan and I feel sorry for loss of so many innocent children killed every day by Taliban , USA , NATO or Afghan forces. However, I must also point out that All the people who are commenting on this post are mostly Pakistanis who are glorifying this incident because it was caused by Afghan forces and not the terrorists Taliban:

I have seen most post on Social media sharing the pictures and asking for Muslims of Pakistan to raise against Afghan forces and USA. I have not seen these posts when Afghans are killed by Taliban everyday.


Kingkhan, you have defended Taliban so many time by saying civilian deaths are collateral damage!
 
Your wish will not come true! Taliban and its backers should be killed and eliminated so innocent Afghans can live in peace.
 
Can't blame Pakistan for this latest tragedy in Afghanistan where their own military in cahoots with the American's are bombing madrassa's. Ghani can't even blame Pak for this neither will his people buy it. They should realise who the villain is here. Ghani and the Afghan American military are killing them. Could be a watershed moment with the Afghan Taliban being bombarded with job applications.
 
Can't blame Pakistan for this latest tragedy in Afghanistan where their own military in cahoots with the American's are bombing madrassa's. Ghani can't even blame Pak for this neither will his people buy it. They should realise who the villain is here. Ghani and the Afghan American military are killing them. Could be a watershed moment with the Afghan Taliban being bombarded with job applications.


Please check the surveillance videos that were captured by drones prior to air strikes. You can clearly see the Pakistani flag in the window of the car used by the Taliban. ANA has reported that 3 Pakistani army advisers were attending the Taliban meeting who were also killed in the air strikes.
 
It happened in kunduz where majority of the Afghans are not Pashtun! So try again!

Kunduz is actually pashtun majority.

But I agree there is no pashtun genocide if that is the case than pak army has killed thousands of pashtun.
 
Please check the surveillance videos that were captured by drones prior to air strikes. You can clearly see the Pakistani flag in the window of the car used by the Taliban. ANA has reported that 3 Pakistani army advisers were attending the Taliban meeting who were also killed in the air strikes.

I would not be surprised if that is true. The double game has been going on for decades but Pakistanis refuse to admit it.
 
Please check the surveillance videos that were captured by drones prior to air strikes. You can clearly see the Pakistani flag in the window of the car used by the Taliban. ANA has reported that 3 Pakistani army advisers were attending the Taliban meeting who were also killed in the air strikes.

Why would anyone put up pakistani flags in window of cars?..... does that not seem like any odd thing to do in a hostile country.
 
Please check the surveillance videos that were captured by drones prior to air strikes. You can clearly see the Pakistani flag in the window of the car used by the Taliban. ANA has reported that 3 Pakistani army advisers were attending the Taliban meeting who were also killed in the air strikes.

Lol

How did Pakistan army get to kunduz which does not even border Pakistan , they traversed 100's of miles without getting noticed
 
Same Afghan govt including their current and ex president is openly supporting this new pashtun movement started in Pakistan 2 months ago

Trust me any self respecting Pashtun from Pakistan side doesn't have anything to do with Afghanistan. Incompetent people all over
 
Trust me any self respecting Pashtun from Pakistan side doesn't have anything to do with Afghanistan. Incompetent people all over

I think they just want Pakistani military or other state institutions to be held responsible for their wrongdoings.
Organisers of the march, which began with a sit-in on February 1 in Islamabad, and ended on February 10, submitted a list of demands to Pakistani authorities. They included the prosecution of Rao Anwar, the formation of an inquiry into extrajudicial killings of Pashtuns in Karachi and elsewhere, an end to collective punishment and discrimination against locals in the FATA, and removal of landmines from South Waziristan, which have killed at least 18 people.
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/pakistan-pashtuns-march-justice-180224114356113.html

Unless I am missing something, some people are mistaking them for a seperatist movement, which is not the case.
 
I think they just want Pakistani military or other state institutions to be held responsible for their wrongdoings.

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/pakistan-pashtuns-march-justice-180224114356113.html

Unless I am missing something, some people are mistaking them for a seperatist movement, which is not the case.

Trust me any self respecting Pashtun from Pakistan side doesn't have anything to do with Afghanistan. Incompetent people all over

I am a pashtun and i dont give a crap about Afghanistan, this so called Pashtun moment is just a drama having some political reasons behind this, that's it.
 
Please check the surveillance videos that were captured by drones prior to air strikes. You can clearly see the Pakistani flag in the window of the car used by the Taliban. ANA has reported that 3 Pakistani army advisers were attending the Taliban meeting who were also killed in the air strikes.

You from Afghanistan so am sure you have better information. From what i have read death numbers are now more than 150. So they all were talibans?

Some pics of innocent kids over media regulating and stating that these kids were present at the place of attack.
 
Please check the surveillance videos that were captured by drones prior to air strikes. You can clearly see the Pakistani flag in the window of the car used by the Taliban. ANA has reported that 3 Pakistani army advisers were attending the Taliban meeting who were also killed in the air strikes.

A flag can not be seen as evidence! The American and Afghan army killed all those innocents. Pakistan and the Afghan Taliban are not the same as you claim to believe. There are million's of reports, keep them to yourself. There is no reason why Pakistan would want war in neighbouring Afghanistan.
 
Why would anyone put up pakistani flags in window of cars?..... does that not seem like any odd thing to do in a hostile country.


Pakistani flag pass through security posts of Pakistan easily. I am sure they have other identification that they are Taliban ( Pakistan’s friendly ones) ! Not all Taliban are Pak friendly as Taliban has become a brand now. So many groups are operating under that brand !

I am not an expert on Taliban to give you more details about them. As far as I know, they are terrorists and should be eliminated completely from everywhere. Afghanistan doesn’t need their presence. We have suffered enough.
 
You from Afghanistan so am sure you have better information. From what i have read death numbers are now more than 150. So they all were


Some pics of innocent kids over media regulating and stating that these kids were present at the place of attack.

The pictures of kids in the media can’t relied on as they can’t be verified they are from that event. Also there is not denying that innocent kids were present nearby and unfortunately lost their lives.

As I mentioned earlier, some elements within Pakistan are making this look like an attack on Pashtuns and trying to raise the public for war against Afghan and US forces.

Most people can be easily fooled when you show them dead pictures of kids and encourage them for revenge.
 
Lol

How did Pakistan army get to kunduz which does not even border Pakistan , they traversed 100's of miles without getting noticed

They obviously use the flag in Taliban areas and Pakistan. In Afghanistan you can travel anywhere. If you don’t have weapons, how can they know who is terrorists and who isn’t. Pakistani military obviously use Pashtuns in Afghanistan to make them look as same as Afghan. We are talking about ISI here, they have agents in Afghan government and probably military aswel.
 
Please check the surveillance videos that were captured by drones prior to air strikes. You can clearly see the Pakistani flag in the window of the car used by the Taliban. ANA has reported that 3 Pakistani army advisers were attending the Taliban meeting who were also killed in the air strikes.

And you expect people to believe such nonsense. Who in their right mind will use Pakistan flag while travelling in Afghanistan ?
 
They obviously use the flag in Taliban areas and Pakistan. In Afghanistan you can travel anywhere. If you don’t have weapons, how can they know who is terrorists and who isn’t. Pakistani military obviously use Pashtuns in Afghanistan to make them look as same as Afghan. We are talking about ISI here, they have agents in Afghan government and probably military aswel.

Why do you always bring Pakistan into every tragedy in Afghanistan, do you seriously believe they are behind every single attack? what is there for them to gain from blowing up innocent people
 
Pakistani flag pass through security posts of Pakistan easily. I am sure they have other identification that they are Taliban ( Pakistan’s friendly ones) ! Not all Taliban are Pak friendly as Taliban has become a brand now. So many groups are operating under that brand !

I am not an expert on Taliban to give you more details about them. As far as I know, they are terrorists and should be eliminated completely from everywhere. Afghanistan doesn’t need their presence. We have suffered enough.


What do you think of foreign occupiers. Shouldn't they move out as well ?
 
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What do you think of foreign occupiers. Shouldn't they move out as well ?

If they move out Afghanistan will be worse then Syria! Even though it’s not that much better currently.

However, one day they will have to leave when Afghan security forces are fully capable of securing the country. Unfortunately, I don’t think that will be in the next 20 odd years.

I don’t like to close my eyes and pretend everything is fine and Afghan government and security forces are great.
 
Why do you always bring Pakistan into every tragedy in Afghanistan, do you seriously believe they are behind every single attack? what is there for them to gain from blowing up innocent people

I don’t bring Pakistan for no reason, I just pointed out something I saw in the videos, can you please tell me why would Taliban have Pakistani flag in their car in Afghanistan?

I didn’t make the videos, they were shot by the drones.
 
And you expect people to believe such nonsense. Who in their right mind will use Pakistan flag while travelling in Afghanistan ?

You don’t believe a video? Have you seen the videos? Please check and then reply.
 
As it can be seen in my post the post was incomplete, the post was posted by mistake and when I went back to edit it and write the rest of my post , I wrote and clicked confirm . Then I got a message that “ you can only edit your post after 2 minutes “!

So yeah, the prayer doesn’t have to be written on PP for it to be accepted.


Yes I am an Afghan and I feel sorry for loss of so many innocent children killed every day by Taliban , USA , NATO or Afghan forces. However, I must also point out that All the people who are commenting on this post are mostly Pakistanis who are glorifying this incident because it was caused by Afghan forces and not the terrorists Taliban:

I have seen most post on Social media sharing the pictures and asking for Muslims of Pakistan to raise against Afghan forces and USA. I have not seen these posts when Afghans are killed by Taliban everyday.

Can you give the name of these 40 Taliban leaders? Ok 10 will do?

Children have been murdered and you're trying to justify it.

Kingkhan, you have defended Taliban so many time by saying civilian deaths are collateral damage!

I defend an Afghan rights to defend themselves against foreign armies. You defend the the puppet regime who is fighting Afghans on the orders of a nation who doesn't care one bit about Afghanistan.

Name just 10 of these 40 leader please?
 
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Afghanistan army need to do a Zarb-e-Azb type operation. They should kill everyone who they see as being trouble makers. The real problem is the Afghanistan army are completely useless and incapable if fighting. They have no fighting skills at that level.
 
Afghanistan army need to do a Zarb-e-Azb type operation. They should kill everyone who they see as being trouble makers. The real problem is the Afghanistan army are completely useless and incapable if fighting. They have no fighting skills at that level.

No military operation can be successful without winning "hearts and minds" of people of the area in which military is operating. You are expecting a puppet regime and its joke of an army to do what even the US and the NATO could not accomplish ?
 
No military operation can be successful without winning "hearts and minds" of people of the area in which military is operating. You are expecting a puppet regime and its joke of an army to do what even the US and the NATO could not accomplish ?

Yes! If the Afghan army claim to be on the side of the people then they should be able to win the Afghan Taliban over. The people are generally against the Taliban and see their inept army as the good guys! No point in having an army if it can't do anything at all. Should have let the American's do whatever they want in Afghanistan. Afghan people themselves are confused and unable to make up their minds. They view each other as Pathans, Uzbeks and Tajiks, not Afghans. A truly broken and confused people who don't know what direction to take.
 
Yes! If the Afghan army claim to be on the side of the people then they should be able to win the Afghan Taliban over. The people are generally against the Taliban and see their inept army as the good guys! No point in having an army if it can't do anything at all. Should have let the American's do whatever they want in Afghanistan. Afghan people themselves are confused and unable to make up their minds. They view each other as Pathans, Uzbeks and Tajiks, not Afghans. A truly broken and confused people who don't know what direction to take.

I do not think so. Only people who consider there joke of an army as good guys are those who are beneficiaries of present status quo or are those pseudo liberal Afghans who mostly live outside Afghanistan and are generally out of touch from on-ground realities.

Obviously these people are more active on social/electronic media as compared to ordinary Afghan tribesmen so people often mistook their agenda as the views of common Afghan people.
 
I do not think so. Only people who consider there joke of an army as good guys are those who are beneficiaries of present status quo or are those pseudo liberal Afghans who mostly live outside Afghanistan and are generally out of touch from on-ground realities.

Obviously these people are more active on social/electronic media as compared to ordinary Afghan tribesmen so people often mistook their agenda as the views of common Afghan people.

From where I am standing most Afghan people seem to believe that the Afghan Taliban in arrangement with Pak military are devastating their country. The truth is that it is the American's, RAW and their own third rate military if we can call it that who are killing them. The part time job of Afghan people living in the country is burning the Pakistani flag. There people are so stupid that often they burn the wrong flag mistakenly as the Pakistani one!:)):))Those Afghan's living outside the country, the refugee's and asylum seekers are even more ignorant then most. As I say if their army was any good they'd kill anyone that inflicts harm upon them like ours has done through various operations. I will still never celebrate the murder of innocent Afghan's even though I am a great supporter of Afghans being deported from Pakistan.
 
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