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Afghanistan walk away with heads held high after tie in last match of Asia Cup against India

Siraj ain’t anything special, I have seen him bowl, need Shami back asap

He has improved now.More suited for Tests but can be a good backup

Shami's absence since CT has been perplexing.We lost CT due to that too.
 
Anil Kumble probably chomping too much pakodas with chutney with Sunny. Russel and lee looks like they can still play cricket while Kumble is as close to Shehzad
 
So what special do Chahar and Kaul have to compensate for the pace?Knuckle balls?Thats surely terrorising the senior players :)))

If you saw U19WC,you would know Nagarkoti has a great yorker which works against everywhere.Plus he can bat and is a good fielder.Then there are guys like Rajpoot,Saini,Siraj who can crank it up.On pattas ,only pace can save you
I dont think Nagarkoti is even fit from his injury now.And I repeat, senior cricket is way above the level of U19.Ask Shaheen Afridi.
And Nagarkoti was not even good with new ball at U19 and how will he replace Chahar?
He has to wait and perfrom like Khaleel did who is much taller and has left arm variety.
 
I hope Shahzad gets a 100 here. This inning can give him a great chance of being picked in the upcoming IPL auction.
 
If Shazad gets out during that time nobody is going to go after his head lol Pakistani batsmen don't have that luxury.

I agree with this. When they played in CT final they were with no pressure to perform but looks like this team too crumbles against India under pressure
 
He has improved now.More suited for Tests but can be a good backup

Shami's absence since CT has been perplexing.We lost CT due to that too.

Agree if Shami was there PK wouldn’t have scored that much and would have been a walk in the Park. I’ll see how Siraj bowls in the next few matches, hope you’re right Kaul Chahal etc are like Masharfi type bowlers.
 
Agree if Shami was there PK wouldn’t have scored that much and would have been a walk in the Park. I’ll see how Siraj bowls in the next few matches, hope you’re right Kaul Chahal etc are like Masharfi type bowlers.

They remind me of legend Vinay Kumar :)))
 
Trundlers off, and look at the scorecard now.

These two pacers should be nowhere near Indian Cricket.
 
Shahzad is playing one of the best innings of this Asia Cup. Utter domination. Putting our Indian trundlers in their places.
 
Coming back to the question of Indian pacers, this kaul, siraz, khalil, thakur are not international standard. Ishant is much better than them, Umesh and Shami notch above. Though umesh remains as direction less as ever
 
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Shahzad almost playing like hes on a different wicket to everyone else.
 
Very happy to see this trundler Kaul getting tonked. He couldn't get a single wicket in 3 ODIs on pacer friendly pitches and it's criminal to bring this lad back into the team. Chahar and Kaul must be playing their last ODIs of their career.
 
How much is Brett Lee being paid to say this stuff?? :)))
 
Well deserved Hundred. Brilliant knock. I'm happy that this hundred will put an end to ODI careers of Kaul and Chahar.
 
Well played Shahzad, well played. One of the best innings in Asia Cup's history.
 
Coming back to the question of Indian pacers, this kaul, siraz, khalil, thakur are not international standard. Ishant is much better than them, Umesh and Shami notch above. Though umesh remains as direction less as ever

You're being stupid. You don't judge players based only on their 1st or 2nd games. Kaul is rubbish. But Khaleel and Chahar have a lot of potential.
 
You're being stupid. You don't judge players based only on their 1st or 2nd games. Kaul is rubbish. But Khaleel and Chahar have a lot of potential.

I haven't mentioned Chahar yet. 2nd , with khalil pace it is difficult to sustain at international level. His India cap is mostly to do with his left arm option, you can see his first class record not at all impressive. Wish Irfan Pathan would not have succumbed to Greg Chap
 
Watching Shahzad bat is one of the purest joys in Cricket. This guys is one of the most passionate Cricketers around, and has such a unique personality. :inzi
 
Agree if Shami was there PK wouldn’t have scored that much and would have been a walk in the Park. I’ll see how Siraj bowls in the next few matches, hope you’re right Kaul Chahal etc are like Masharfi type bowlers.

First you asked me to go easy on the boys (thakur, kaul and chahar) and now you yourself are doing the exact same thing. :misbah
 
Chahar on these kind of pitches is cannon fodder. He does not have the pace and pitches it up to get swing. Any half decent batsman can wallop him easily.

Don't know why Kaul is still playing after his pathetic show in England LOI series. He got massive phainty there and I thought he would be dropped permanently. Somehow he is back again.

I would pick Avesh Khan or Mavi who can bowl with good pace over these trundlers like Chahar, Kaul types.
 
Khaleel has potential but Chahar don’t think so, Chahar and Kaul wont get into HK team

Chahar is your quintessential medium pace swing bowler. Give him swinging conditions and the same bowler will look like a million bucks. He doesn't have the pace to trouble batsmen on flat tracks.

I've seen him in Ranji. He gets that new cherry to swing very nicely.
 
You're being stupid. You don't judge players based only on their 1st or 2nd games. Kaul is rubbish. But Khaleel and Chahar have a lot of potential.

You are asking others to not judge players on the basis of their first few games but you are calling Kaul a rubbish bowler yourself. How many matches has Kaul played? And why its right for you to call him a rubbish bowler? Why can't we call Chahar a rubbish bowler? :inti

Also calling members stupid, idiot or pathetic is not allowed here.
 
Long back, there was a pacer named Ganesh (Dodda ??), Kaul's action is very similar to him, run-up is almost same.
 
chahar is not international standard bowler

He is a swing bowler. Only suitable for Tests in England, SA. He will get epic phainty everywhere else. Don't know who the genuius is that selected him for UAE matches. Chahar is a poor man's BK.

Kaul is a joke. He is same as Mohit Sharma, Dinda, Thakur types. Nothing bowler who can hit mid 130's.

India should invest in Mavi, Nagarkoti, Avesh Khan and Khaleel.
 
Just like Indian fast bowling got exposed today without Bumrah. Let's see what our batters do here without Dhawan and Sharma. Rayudu should be put under pressure.
 
Chahar is your quintessential medium pace swing bowler. Give him swinging conditions and the same bowler will look like a million bucks. He doesn't have the pace to trouble batsmen on flat tracks.

I've seen him in Ranji. He gets that new cherry to swing very nicely.

Can he swing like Jimmy?
 
Just like Indian fast bowling got exposed today without Bumrah. Let's see what our batters do here without Dhawan and Sharma. Rayudu should be put under pressure.

Rayadu and Karthik should be as 2nd or 3rd backup players. They can play a decent innings here and there. But they are not the solution for Indian middle order problems.
 
He is a swing bowler. Only suitable for Tests in England, SA. He will get epic phainty everywhere else. Don't know who the genuius is that selected him for UAE matches. Chahar is a poor man's BK.

Kaul is a joke. He is same as Mohit Sharma, Dinda, Thakur types. Nothing bowler who can hit mid 130's.

India should invest in Mavi, Nagarkoti, Avesh Khan and Khaleel.

As I said for every 5 trundlers we get 1 decent bowler like Khaleel. This is the procedure and this is how Mavi, Nagarkotti will come into this Indian team.
 
here to represent the Paksitani view that Shahzad is scoring runs against second string indian attack
 
Time to seal that factory.

You cannot seal that. The trend was set long time ago when the likes of Madanlal, Roger Binny, Jimmy Amarnath won us the 1983 WC. We fell in love with trundlers.

Its up to the selectors to stop selecting these useless pie chuckers. These guys are going to embarrass us in international cricket. Nothing bowlers who learned a few tricks. Not going to work as they never had the natural ability.
 
You are asking others to not judge players on the basis of their first few games but you are calling Kaul a rubbish bowler yourself. How many matches has Kaul played? And why its right for you to call him a rubbish bowler? Why can't we call Chahar a rubbish bowler? :inti

Also calling members stupid, idiot or pathetic is not allowed here.

First of all, I didn't call anyone stupid. I said the poster was BEING stupid by judging players on their debut. There's a big difference. If you're doing something stupid expect to get called out.

Secondly, I know Kaul is nothing special because I actually follow domestic cricket. Ranji, Vijay Hazare, Mushtaq Ali I keep a tab every season.

That's why I know that Chahar is a proper talent and Kaul is just another Indian bowler among a plethora of domestic Indian pacers. He's been average for most of his career. He's been better the last 2 seasons but even his peak is nothing compared to the peak other bowlers have managed in other seasons.
 
My 2nd favorite century of Asia Cup after Dhawan's. Fantastic knock by Shahzad. Things are bad when our part time spinner is bowling better than our rookie overhyped IPL trundler brigade.
 
Outside of India's test pacers, the best pacer in India right now is Mohd Siraj.

I hope he debuts against WI in the test series.
 
Outside of India's test pacers, the best pacer in India right now is Mohd Siraj.

I hope he debuts against WI in the test series.

India will go with 2 pacers and 3 spinners.

Bumrah/Ishant + Ashwin/Jaddu/Kuldeep.

Its a given. Siraj does not look like a LOI bowler. But that is where his best chance lies.
 
India will go with 2 pacers and 3 spinners.

Bumrah/Ishant + Ashwin/Jaddu/Kuldeep.

Its a given. Siraj does not look like a LOI bowler. But that is where his best chance lies.

Don’t want Bumrah to play a meaningless test against Windies and get injured before the World Cup. Play Ishant & Mohd Shami + Ashwin / Jaddu & Mishra ( Kuldeep save him for Odis)
 
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