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After the West Indies series - Can we consider inviting Australia for a LOI series in Pakistan?

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It seems the last few tours have gone pretty smoothly and we regained some of our trust to safely host cricket in Pakistan.

Can we now take a step further and consider inviting Aus for a 3 match ODI series?

They are a top ODI team and so it will be a huge revenue generator for us and hopefully we will see some closely fought games.

Hope George Bailey can convince his fellow country men!

Discuss!
 
Australia don't like to tour the UAE, forget Pakistan.
 
The team Pakistan needs to invite is England. They are much more likely to tour out of the big teams who currently want to stay away. If you can get a full or even a near full England side at Lahore it will send out a great message to the rest of the world
 
I get the general vibes that India will never tour, although at the same time I'm quite of the opinion that if India does ever decide to go ahead, they will come in full force (all of the first team) and they will tour more than one city
 
What’s the status of the West Indies series? Haven’t heard much about it since the story initially came out
 
Absolutely no point in even trying. Might as well invite India instead!

The perfect option would be to invite Bangladesh for full ODI series followed by South Africa.

After that, hopefully we can start having proper, full tours. Maybe invite Zimbabwe or WI for a 2 match Test series and 3 match ODI series. And THEN, host the entirety of the PSL in Pakistan and in the future maybe invite the likes of NZ, Eng and India.
 
At this stage, SL, Windies, Zim and Probably SA are the teams which will agree to play in Pak.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Australia are the least likely to tour. Along with India.
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Chief Destroyer said:
They haven't toured since 99. Last team you want to bother inviting at this stage.
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Rana said:
Australia don't like to tour the UAE, forget Pakistan.
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Not saying it will be easy but maybe Aus can be convinced if it is a short ODI series and provide them a huge compensation - leverage George Bailey’s experience with the World XI.

No harm in trying...
 
I think the most logical step after a successful West Indies tour would be South Africa. They have had 5 big players play in Pakistan as part of World XI, that’s half a playing team. I’m sure these 5 can convince others to come aswell. Ideally this series should be held after the PSL, to further increase their confidence.
 
ExpressPacer said:
Absolutely no point in even trying. Might as well invite India instead!

The perfect option would be to invite Bangladesh for full ODI series followed by South Africa.

After that, hopefully we can start having proper, full tours. Maybe invite Zimbabwe or WI for a 2 match Test series and 3 match ODI series. And THEN, host the entirety of the PSL in Pakistan and in the future maybe invite the likes of NZ, Eng and India.
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The leverage we have is that an australian player recently toured Pakistan as part of the World XI - leverage his experience and convince him to persuade the ACB.
 
The team that didn't bother visiting us after 1998 will visit us now.

Sometimes I wonder if you're serious when you post or on a massive wind-up.
 
Nah they ain't coming but we can invite teams like South Africa, and New Zealand by 2020.
 
No harm in asking but don't see Australia wanting to tour Pakistan at this stage.
 
No harm in trying, but they shold focus on getting South Africa for a odi series.
 
Pakpak said:
The team that didn't bother visiting us after 1998 will visit us now.

Sometimes I wonder if you're serious when you post or on a massive wind-up.
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:facepalm:

Why??

Because I am thinking further ahead for Pakistan cricket and understand the massive financial windfall of playing Australia? Or just maybe don’t want to be stuck in a never ending loop playing Zimbabwe, SL and WI all the time that will bring little long term benefit?

Try getting out of the box you are trapped and think of the possibilities.
 
Hasan123 said:
No harm in asking but don't see Australia wanting to tour Pakistan at this stage.
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mozi2003 said:
No harm in trying, but they shold focus on getting South Africa for a odi series.
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It will be tough but they should leverage George Bailey’s experience playing for the World XI.

Also maybe bring improved PSL contracts to the table
 
Hasan123 said:
No harm in asking but don't see Australia wanting to tour Pakistan at this stage.
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Hedz said:
I think the most logical step after a successful West Indies tour would be South Africa. They have had 5 big players play in Pakistan as part of World XI, that’s half a playing team. I’m sure these 5 can convince others to come aswell. Ideally this series should be held after the PSL, to further increase their confidence.
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SAF is a good idea but we have to bring ODI’s to the table and not just meaningless T20’s...

Either way - it will not be a financial windfall as playing Aus..
 
As much as I would like to see a home series against Australia, its not going to happen. The Aussies are never going to agree and even if they do, holding matches under so much security and control is financially nonviable. PCB is will go bankrupt hosting just one such series with the the additional cost of mobilizing the para-military for all the extra enhanced security cover.
 
msb314 said:
SAF is a good idea but we have to bring ODI’s to the table and not just meaningless T20’s...

Either way - it will not be a financial windfall as playing Aus..
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We need to bring tests back along with resuming Intl Cricket in other cities than Lahore then we can look to invite a SAF or NZ by 2020 hopefully.
 
msb314 said:
It will be tough but they should leverage George Bailey’s experience playing for the World XI.

Also maybe bring improved PSL contracts to the table
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Top Australian players won't play in the PSL as it's close to the IPL and the PSL is towards the end of the Australian summer.
 
QalandarFan said:
We need to bring tests back along with resuming Intl Cricket in other cities than Lahore then we can look to invite a SAF or NZ by 2020 hopefully.
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I am not too thrilled about resume my Tests yet.

It is not financially viable yet and the crowds/media will not buy it.

Should do like a 3 ODI series and 1 T20 - something like that...
 
Australia will never come and Bailey is no one of note in Australian cricket these days.

We should go all out to get South Africa or England over. The PCB has good relations with CSA and the ECB and both teams have a history with helping out teams in need: CSA sent the most number of players for the World XI tour and England recently toured Bangladesh.

Propose a four test match 'world tour' where one match will be played in Lahore, one in the UAE, one in South Africa/England and one in Kenya/Ireland. Cricket needs to lessen the impact of home advantage.
 
How about Pakistan play their home series in Australia?
 
msb314 said:
:facepalm:

Why??

Because I am thinking further ahead for Pakistan cricket and understand the massive financial windfall of playing Australia? Or just maybe don’t want to be stuck in a never ending loop playing Zimbabwe, SL and WI all the time that will bring little long term benefit?

Try getting out of the box you are trapped and think of the possibilities.
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Because most of your 'outside the box' ideas are beyond belief and this is not your first ridiculous thread.

If Australia did not come to Pakistan in an era where England, India, South Africa, NZ visited multiple times and the terrorism was virutally non-existant then there is no chance of them coming now. That much is obvious to even a ten year old.
 
Pakpak said:
Because most of your 'outside the box' ideas are beyond belief and this is not your first ridiculous thread.

If Australia did not come to Pakistan in an era where England, India, South Africa, NZ visited multiple times and the terrorism was virutally non-existant then there is no chance of them coming now. That much is obvious to even a ten year old.
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Although I agree that Australia seem to be by far the pickiest teams of all (there seem to be light years between them and any other team), I think they would have toured from 2004-2006 if a series was scheduled. There was no series between Pakistan and Australia scheduled at that time. Australia A did tour in that time frame. But yeah, I think England and South Africa are far more likely to tour than Australia in the next 1-2 years.
 
ahsan17 said:
Although I agree that Australia seem to be by far the pickiest teams of all (there seem to be light years between them and any other team), I think they would have toured from 2004-2006 if a series was scheduled. There was no series between Pakistan and Australia scheduled at that time. Australia A did tour in that time frame. But yeah, I think England and South Africa are far more likely to tour than Australia in the next 1-2 years.
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I remember those times and all I heard was they refused to come everytime. I doubt even England will tour. WI and SA seem to be our best bets for now. Hopefully after that we will an entire PSL in Pakistan then maybe others will come.
 
Pakpak said:
Because most of your 'outside the box' ideas are beyond belief and this is not your first ridiculous thread.

If Australia did not come to Pakistan in an era where England, India, South Africa, NZ visited multiple times and the terrorism was virutally non-existant then there is no chance of them coming now. That much is obvious to even a ten year old.
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Actually Australia did not tour Pakistan for much of the 2000's due to it not being in the FTP back in those days.

The only "cancelled" tours of Pakistan by Australia was in March/April 2008 - when our national security was in decline.

In the same decade on NZ also only toured once and that tour was cut short by the Sheraton Hotel attack.

Australia toured Bangladesh recently in uncertain conditions so with enhanced security and George Bailey's persuasion- it is not beyond the realms of possibility to convince them for a short LOI tour.
 
Bilal7 said:
Australia will never come and Bailey is no one of note in Australian cricket these days.

We should go all out to get South Africa or England over. The PCB has good relations with CSA and the ECB and both teams have a history with helping out teams in need: CSA sent the most number of players for the World XI tour and England recently toured Bangladesh.

Propose a four test match 'world tour' where one match will be played in Lahore, one in the UAE, one in South Africa/England and one in Kenya/Ireland. Cricket needs to lessen the impact of home advantage.
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So did Australia...

The world tour idea will not pass through because it is not financially profitably for any of the countries involved - there will be huge logistics, marketing and travel costs associated with that for just 1 match in each country.
 
msb314 said:
Actually Australia did not tour Pakistan for much of the 2000's due to it not being in the FTP back in those days.

The only "cancelled" tours of Pakistan by Australia was in March/April 2008 - when our national security was in decline.

In the same decade on NZ also only toured once and that tour was cut short by the Sheraton Hotel attack.

Australia toured Bangladesh recently in uncertain conditions so with enhanced security and George Bailey's persuasion- it is not beyond the realms of possibility to convince them for a short LOI tour.
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Correction - they also cancelled a tour in Feb 2009 and August 2002 but these cancellation were right after major terrorist attacks but that is not the situation right now...
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We are really walking on thin ice right now. Can’t risk inviting big teams before or during the general elections. The general elections are next year and there are hardly any big teams willing to visit Pakistan at the moment. We can persuade teams like Bang, Zim, SA or maybe WI, but for the teams like Eng, Aus,NZ and India, it takes even better security conditions then what we have to offer right now. If the security situation continues to stay stable for the next 4-5 years then we can dream bigger.
 
We are playing very well right now ..... but we have really not being tested .... YET !!!!!
 
Angrez Pakistani said:
We are really walking on thin ice right now. Can’t risk inviting big teams before or during the general elections. The general elections are next year and there are hardly any big teams willing to visit Pakistan at the moment. We can persuade teams like Bang, Zim, SA or maybe WI, but for the teams like Eng, Aus,NZ and India, it takes even better security conditions then what we have to offer right now. If the security situation continues to stay stable for the next 4-5 years then we can dream bigger.
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The security situation at this moment is quite similar to 2005-2006. England, India, etc were all willing to tour at that time and did tour. India is a different story but I think England can be convinced after we have a few more successful series.
 
After the walloping Australia got in the UAE, I would rather they stayed away. I would love to see NZ tour Pakistan though.
 
Australia are least likely to tour Pakistan out of all the test nations.The biggest teams we can invite at this stage are SA and NZ.We can try to invite England too but I doubt they will agree.
 
Did the PCB dole out cash to the Sri Lankan players to play the T20? I hope not. Don't want this to become a prerequisite for players to consider coming to Pakistan. Also we need to slowly remove the presidential security system in place. It cause a lot of hassle to commuters. While you can't risk foreigners lives, you also can't risk local lives for just a game of cricket. Pakistani people can sacrifice for a game or two but the presidential security level cannot go on indefinitely.
 
They wont come. We need to start slow. I'd be more into having trips to Aussie/SA so that we can evaluate our team in a better way.
 
msb314 said:
Actually Australia did not tour Pakistan for much of the 2000's due to it not being in the FTP back in those days.

The only "cancelled" tours of Pakistan by Australia was in March/April 2008 - when our national security was in decline.

In the same decade on NZ also only toured once and that tour was cut short by the Sheraton Hotel attack.

Australia toured Bangladesh recently in uncertain conditions so with enhanced security and George Bailey's persuasion- it is not beyond the realms of possibility to convince them for a short LOI tour.
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It really is beyond the realms of the possibility. You're making it sound as teams never toured outside the FTP, they did. Many times. When NZ went back by cutting their tour short they returned to Pakistan again albeit with a weaker team. But Australia never bothered. The year after that Australia refused to tour, if you want I can post the link where they cancelled their tour and said they are not willing to play in Pakistan. We also had an alternative series played in Colombo and Sharjah against them (where we made 47 in a Test innings), this was early 2000s.

And all of this when our terror threat was negligible and incidents happened very rarely. We'd have more luck convincing the Irish first. I have been the biggest supporter of teams coming to Pakistan again but if you guys want to keep having pipe dreams then please be guest. You can quote me back if CA visit Pakistan next, because its never happening in the near future, their chief literally said this less than 7 weeks back.
 
Australia will never tour again. Had the attack on SL not happened, they would have been the only team to not play in Pakistan during all these years.

I think South Africa will be the first major team to tour Pakistan, followed by New Zealand and England at some point. India will tour as well if political relations improve.
 
Australia is scheduled to play in Pakistan next year but Sutherland on Friday expressed doubt that tour would be possible _ “I don’t see in the short term there are any plans for us to play in Pakistan.”
 
Pakistan Cricket Board should first strengthen itself financially, build more players and competition. Ditch India and Australia forever meaning not touring them also. For even small tests Pakistanis are sent to Australia why give their board system any benefit? Concentrate on South africa and New Zealand. Within couple of years Australia will come, even if they don't most of its players will be in our domestic competitions. Pakistanis would've already watched most of their cricketers playing in Pakistan to even give credence to watch a more weaker Australian side.
 
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We should focus on SL and WI for now... once we start having full tours by these two countries then we may invite India who will visit if politics improve.
 
Also I don't get this hype around Australia. They are a minnow team away from home. It won't be any fun smashing them to all parts, why not invite someone like a New Zealand or an England who are better visitors.
 
pkwdpassion said:
Pakistan Cricket Board should first strengthen itself financially, build more players and competition. Ditch India and Australia forever meaning not touring them also. For even small tests Pakistanis are sent to Australia why give their board system any benefit? Concentrate on South africa and New Zealand. Within couple of years Australia will come, even if they don't most of its players will be in our domestic competitions. Pakistanis would've already watched most of their cricketers playing in Pakistan to even give credence to watch a more weaker Australian side.
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lol

Cricket Australia would dearly love to only have to ever play England, India and South Africa.
 
pkwdpassion said:
Pakistan Cricket Board should first strengthen itself financially, build more players and competition. Ditch India and Australia forever meaning not touring them also. For even small tests Pakistanis are sent to Australia why give their board system any benefit? Concentrate on South africa and New Zealand. Within couple of years Australia will come, even if they don't most of its players will be in our domestic competitions. Pakistanis would've already watched most of their cricketers playing in Pakistan to even give credence to watch a more weaker Australian side.
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India doesnt have any cricketing bilateral relations with Pakistan.How will you stop something thats already stopped?
 
Convict said:
lol

Cricket Australia would dearly love to only have to ever play England, India and South Africa.
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I wonder if most regular or top 15 australian cricketers play any other T20 league apart from bbl and ipl?
 
Convict said:
lol

Cricket Australia would dearly love to only have to ever play England, India and South Africa.
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We also feel the same
Cricket Australia should also stop sending or training their high performance squads with Pakistan team in Australia and abroad.
I doubt anyone wants to watch that garbage Steven Smith stance outside off-stump.
 
pkwdpassion said:
We also feel the same
Cricket Australia should also stop sending or training their high performance squads with Pakistan team in Australia and abroad.
I doubt anyone wants to watch that garbage Steven Smith stance outside off-stump.
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CA sent its team to UAE.Thats not Pakistani territory.
 
Syed1 said:
Also I don't get this hype around Australia. They are a minnow team away from home. It won't be any fun smashing them to all parts, why not invite someone like a New Zealand or an England who are better visitors.
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They are not minnows in ODI’s away from home. They have beaten England, Pakistan, SL, Bangladesh recently all away.

Only lost to India in India recently but no shame in that.
 
Invite Ireland & Scotland to tour. If they tour safely and the tour goes without any problems, England, New Zealand, South Africa & others might consider touring as well
 
South Africa, is most likely to Agree and Australia the Least likely. But it would be wise to get Ireland to visit first. Then probably South Africa or England. But still a long way to go. Guarding a team for a single match is not as big a deal as providing security for a whole tour. Plus Players feel trapped when they can't leave their Hotel, due to security concerns
 
cricketjoshila said:
I wonder if most regular or top 15 australian cricketers play any other T20 league apart from bbl and ipl?
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They don't. I mean they barely even play BBL. Steve Smith hasn't played a BBL game in like four years or something.
 
I say keep playing tests in the UAE for the time being (sadly the only option), and eventually bring the limited overs back to Pakistan.

From what we all have seen, people in Pakistan don't follow test cricket that strictly. Viewership at stadiums is always low.

Australia will not be touring Pakistan for a long long time. Until the situation improves to the point where players can come and basically walk out to any location they want to go to. No one wants to have 1.5-2 month tour where they do nothing but stay in a bubble.

Have the WI even agreed 100% come? Haven't heard any update yet.
 
NZ also may be reluctant, they didn't tour after 2002 when their tour was cut short by the bombing outside the team hotel in Karachi.
 
Markhor said:
NZ also may be reluctant, they didn't tour after 2002 when their tour was cut short by the bombing outside the team hotel in Karachi.
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I think they did tour for five one-dayers... to make up for the test that didn't get played. I could be wrong though.
 
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