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potw.he's a signature odi and test batsman.
Lets not judge him on his t20 performances, they are just a bonus.
Its a problem.
Hes young. Will work on it.
quickly becoming one of the most selfish players in the pakistan team
just concerned about getting his 50 and keeping his place for the next game... not focused on winning games and performing as per the team's requirements
He's a signature ODI and Test batsman.
Lets not judge him on his T20 performances, they are just a bonus.
Haters can hate. He is the only player from Pakistan to score an international T20 Hundred![]()
Remember Shehzad is an opener. He has higher chance of dot balls due to more fielders in the ring.
Misbah on the other hand, when he comes in the field is spread.
Numbers would show otherwise.
I believe I have a legitimate question for the op, why don't you create a similar thread or why haven't you created a similar thread for Misbah ul haq?
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1. Every thread doesn't have to be about Misbah
2. I'm not obsessed with Misbah
3. Misbah doesn't play T20Is
4. Strike rate in T20Is should be higher than ODIs and Tests
5. A dot ball in T20Is is literally criminal
6. Ahmed Shehzad bats in the opening 6 overs, where there are a lots of gaps.
Openers usually have highest dot ball percentage.
Its easier in middle overs to rotate strike.
I wonder where you got that statistic fromwith average of 16 against non minnows with a strike rate of 108 in 22 matches with only 1 50...
rest of 4 matches ( against BD,Zim and co ) he has 2 50s and a 100....
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Openers usually have highest dot ball percentage.
Its easier in middle overs to rotate strike.
What kind of nonsense is this? Lol. A opener has freedom to attack with fielders in the ring.
Openers usually have highest dot ball percentage.
Its easier in middle overs to rotate strike.
Nope, it's easier for openers to hit boundaries because most of the field is up in the ring....
Its not about boundaries. The OP is suggesting for strike rotation. Its harder to rotate strike at the top.
Openers have a higher dot ball percentage.
Its not about boundaries. The OP is suggesting for strike rotation. Its harder to rotate strike at the top.
Openers have a higher dot ball percentage.
Strike rotation still pretty bad even by opening standards. And even when Shehzad is in during the middle overs, his strike rotation is quite poor...
Really wish he can sort this part of his game out.
Still, even with these weaknesses he is a very good batsman.
quickly becoming one of the most selfish players in the pakistan team
just concerned about getting his 50 and keeping his place for the next game... not focused on winning games and performing as per the team's requirements
Struggles to rotate strike, can't play swing or spin. Why is even playing at the International level? That's 3 massive flaws he has yet he's still found a way to make it into an international side. The only reason he's been successful so far is because he's played selfish innings to boost his average and keep his spot at the teams expensive. If he doesn't kick on after 50 his innings are effectively momentum killers up front.He's only 22 and it's understandable that he hasn't mastered every aspect of his batting yet. Give him time and he'll improve on the singles and doubles too. Needs to sometimes play with softer hands imo then even with the field restrictions he'll be able to take more singles.
A vastly overrated batsman.He cannot play spin,seam and cannot rotate the strike. These three are glaring and huge deficiencies.
Everyone can score a 50 in 90 balls,these kind of innings end up harming the team.
The thing is, no matter how flat the wicket is, he always plays like that. And you're right, most average batsmen can play like that and get 50s. The good ones can play within themselves and get 50 off 65 or so balls before launching in to the attack.A vastly overrated batsman.He cannot play spin,seam and cannot rotate the strike. These three are glaring and huge deficiencies.
Everyone can score a 50 in 90 balls,these kind of innings end up harming the team.
If Umar had Shehzads temperament, he'd be world class.Some of the batsmen cant rotate strikeand some are silly
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Yah, unfortunately for us both are performing way below their potential.If Umar had Shehzads temperament, he'd be world class.
If Umar had Shehzads temperament, he'd be world class.
Nah Shehzad is performing right to the peak of his abilities.Yah, unfortunately for us both are performing way below their potential.
Exactly.I would forgive him if he compensated for the dot balls after settling down,however,he cannot even do that.Terrible.The thing is, no matter how flat the wicket is, he always plays like that. And you're right, most average batsmen can play like that and get 50s. The good ones can play within themselves and get 50 off 65 or so balls before launching in to the attack.
Nah Shehzad is performing right to the peak of his abilities.
If Umar had Shehzads temperament, he'd be world class.
Numbers would show otherwise.
No.its like saying If Shehzad had the strike rotating ability, he'd be world Class. You can improve on Strike Rotation, but from the looks its quite hard for Umar to improve on his temperament
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Some of the batsmen cant rotate strikeand some are silly
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Yah, unfortunately for us both are performing way below their potential.
Well... if they picked "these sort of stats"... then lower than low S/R of certain player (or players) would also come under microscope.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...2;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting
....and if they started doing something about S/R (just a little more than him) then .... guess what is going to happen?
I will have Shehzad over tulla baaz Sharjeel, Imran Nazir, Awais Zia any day.
Saj what do you think is it more because of his selfish play or his inability?Shehzad is an example of a lot of our players who seem to have forgotten the art of rotating the strike. Akhtar in his interview with me went into some detail about it also.
34 dot balls out of 60 balls faced is appalling.
What do you think is the reason? Are the domestic coaches too old school?Shehzad is an example of a lot of our players who seem to have forgotten the art of rotating the strike. Akhtar in his interview with me went into some detail about it also.
34 dot balls out of 60 balls faced is appalling.
What do you think is the reason? Are the domestic coaches too old school?
Imho, Pakistan domestic cricket has lagged behind the standards of international cricket far too much.
I don't know what are you complaining and whining about..... in ODIs this is what both have done in their last 15 innings....
...and then Shehzad's ODI record in last innings broken down by opposition;
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Shehzad is an example of a lot of our players who seem to have forgotten the art of rotating the strike.
Please see post # 73. Did Shaoib go into this much detail? Please share with us ... as to what he said.Akhtar in his interview with me went into some detail about it also.
34 dot balls out of 60 balls faced is appalling.
Two overs:
6, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1
To be fair i would say the later is better than the first. Nothing frustrates a bowler more when a batsman takes a single, it means the bowler has to constantly adjust bowling to another batsman and cannot consistently keep working on a particular batsman. Secondly when a bowler is bowling well and a batsman is struggling for effectiveness, taking a single relieves the pressure and allows him some breathing space at the non strikers end. Now this is not to say any dot ball is criminal, sometimes some dot balls are unavoidable as the bowler will bowl a very good delivery which the batsman has no choice but to defend and the opposition will have close in fielders to stop the singles but when a batsman has faced 10-12 deliveries at the wicket, it is sufficient time for him to ***** the wicket, what the bowling and fielding side is doing and for him to come up with a strategy and game plan as to what needs to be done.
6,0,0,0,0,0 or 4,1,0,0,0,0 or 6,1,0,0,0,0 is completely the wrong way to play cricket in any format of the game especially the limited overs and T-20 version.
1,4,0,1,1,4 or 1,1,2,0,1,4 or 0, 6, 1, 4,1,0 or even 1,1,1,0,1,1,1 look much better in that there is strike rotation, minimal dot balls, initiative to score runs and put the bowler and bowling side under pressure and giving them something to think about. When you take initiative and put the bowling side, the bowler under pressure it puts the bowler and the bowling captain under more pressure thus inducing mistakes from them.
What Inzamam ul Haq and Mohd Yousaf have to say on how to bat in the Modern ODI and T-20 format and the problem with Misbah ul Haq's batting style.
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...20-batting-tips-for-all-youngsters&highlight=
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...ammad-Yousuf-s-clarification-on-Misbah-ul-Haq
I also think that 111111 is slightly better than 600000 for the reasons you stated but.... I am also a big fan of end result.
Remember there were many PPers who hated Fawad Alam for his batting sytle. Well, he has silenced his critics very well... why? Because the end result is runs and Fawad doing a great job.
Similarly you can not ignore the what he is producing ... I mean, S/R of 81 and Ave of 48 in last 15 ODIs will never be questionable in any way, shape or form. Yes... he does need to improve upon S/R a little up to 85 and above to be with the best in the world but I seems odd to bash a player who has 5 100s in last 11 months... 3 ODI and 1 each in tests and T20!!! Only Sangakara (7) and Amla (6) has scored more international 100s than Shehzad in the same time frame.
Not to mention, he is the highest scorer for Pak.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...al1=span;team=7;template=results;type=batting
Now compare that you our best ODI batsman who can not score an ODI 100 if his life depended on it.![]()
Ahmed Shehzad in won matches batting 2nd - 12 matches/innings, 509 runs @ 42.41, 2 50s & 1 100.
but of course the strike-rate mafia is unhappy since he actually takes his time and anchors the innings instead of going full pelt from ball one and throw his wicket away.
Er, that's not a remarkable stat, you'd expect a much higher average in won games. Umar averages 68.85 at a SR of 98 while Misbah averages 72.61 at a SR of 73, and the player Shehzad thinks he is comparable to (RTed a comparison of the twos compares after a number of matches :faceapalm: ) Kohli averages 84.64 at a SR of 96.Ahmed Shehzad in won matches batting 2nd - 12 matches/innings, 509 runs @ 42.41, 2 50s & 1 100.
but of course the strike-rate mafia is unhappy since he actually takes his time and anchors the innings instead of going full pelt from ball one and throw his wicket away.