Ahmed Shehzad [The Mega Discussion Thread]

[Haroon786]

He can't rotate strike to save his life, his 60 SR starts mean that Pakistan are on the back foot straightaway and his 75 SR 50s only serve to preserve his place in the side and not to win the game for his country.

You might think this is a knee jerk reaction to his disgraceful dismissal which has precipitated this thread, but no this has been on my mind for a long time and not only does he deserve to be booted out of the team, but only be brought back when he can score at 85 SR, his dot play is a plague to Pakistan Cricket, that needs to be eradicated soon if there is any chance of success at the WC and future competition.

The selectors still have an opportunity, drop him and pick a much more deserving player, or regret for the next generation.Q

 

[steelo green]

Knee. Jerk.

 

[Fastandfurious]

Agreed.

 

[Haroon786]

Read the OP.

 

[haris93]

he is doing what management wants him to do ...anchoring the innings

 

[anuk]

he's the best opener pakistan have had for decades and i am not even exaggerating.

 

[fasihulhaq94]

the standards we expect from our batsmen

 

[fasihulhaq94]

shehzad > umar 'the most talented' akmal

 

[Varun]

He's a good bat considering the circumstances in your side. Hardly a torture.

 

[Arsal_AK]

Yeah, get rid of the only batsman scoring runs.

 

[Arsal_AK]

shehzad > umar 'the most talented' akmal

Without a doubt, he is better.

 

[Haroon786]

Yeah sure, how many batsmen right now in ODIs across the world who strike in the 70s win matches for their team ?

 

[iRfaN_LA]

Ahmed is not torture. He needs an aggressive partner on the other end. Not a hack like sharjeel and definitely not jamshed.

 

[FreeBird]

Ahmed Shehzad will be a torture to watch so long as he keeps playing against his natural style of aggressive play.

You get the player in the team who is a natural hitter n you ask him to play slow n block in the power play overs or you lose your spot in the team.
What do you expect to happen?

 

[Haroon786]

Without a doubt, he is better.

Umar Akmal is far better than Shahzhad.

 

[fasihulhaq94]

Yeah sure, how many batsmen right now in ODIs across the world who strike in the 70s win matches for their team ?

i dont see umar akmal with 80+ SR winning us matches either, SR isnt the end of the world

 

[Haroon786]

the standards we expect from our batsmen

So you don't expect them to win matches ?

 

[JibranAnsari]

Please find a better opener than him before calling him all that.

Only if we had someone half as good as him to open with him. All kinds of hacks are opening with him , give him at least someone stable to open with him.

 

[Haroon786]

i dont see umar akmal with 80+ SR winning us matches either, SR isnt the end of the world

You haven't seen much LOI cricket, his record attests to his success in ODIs and T20Is.

 

[Haroon786]

Please find a better opener than him before calling him all that.

Wait, so you're not allowed to call a spade a spade ? Nice logic

 

[Arsal_AK]

Umar Akmal is far better than Shahzhad.

In which way??

Atleast he is scoring.

 

[Arsal_AK]

Since the S.A series Shehzad has an average of 45 at a SR of 80, with three tons.


Lets drop him.Nice logic.

 

[Haroon786]

Just look at his record.

Disgusted by that Afridi dismissal.

 

[fasihulhaq94]

 

[Arsal_AK]

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Lol.
Pawnage.

 

[haris93]

Yeah sure, how many batsmen right now in ODIs across the world who strike in the 70s win matches for their team ?

How many teams have batting lineup that collapse 7/10 times ... usually under 100 its 4-5 out? how many are there?

 

[fasihulhaq94]

How many teams have batting lineup that collapse 7/10 times ... usually under 100 its 4-5 out? how many are there?

exactly, we have no problem with akmals and afridis scoring 15 runs because the go at 100 SR. On the other hand a guy who can score big at 75 SR is called tuk tuk king

we act as if we have a world class batting line up. cant get past 100 and worrying about SRs

 

[Haroon786]

As expected, didn't answer my question.

 

[Aman]

Rubbish opener, Pakistan will go nowhere if they persist with garbage like him.

 

[Haroon786]

Average of near 40 at near 90 SR is far from scoring 15s.

In fact Umar averages more than Shahzhad despite scoring at a much higher rate.

 

[Haroon786]

Rubbish opener, Pakistan will go nowhere if they persist with garbage like him.

Can't believe that PP has gone downhill this much, I mean people trying to justify Afridi's and Shahzhad's place in the side, both don't give a damn about team success.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Wait, so you're not allowed to call a spade a spade ? Nice logic

The OP isn't calling spade a spade , he is asking to drop him.

Find two replacements then.

I suggest 1, Afaq raheem.

 

[Arsal_AK]

Average of near 40 at near 90 SR is far from scoring 15s.

In fact Umar averages more than Shahzhad despite scoring at a much higher rate.

See post #22.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Yah is rubbish

and is stellar

Brilliant!

 

[Aman]

Can't believe that PP has gone downhill this much, I mean people trying to justify Afridi's and Shahzhad's place in the side, both don't give a damn about team success.

What's worse is some posters wanting someone who averages 29 in List A's to replace Umar

 

[Aman]

Yah is rubbish

and is stellar

Brilliant!

If Umar batted conservatively like Shehzad he wouldn't be averaging 35

 

[Aman]

Heck if most decent openers batted like Shehzad they'd be averaging 45+, provided they're decent.

 

[Haroon786]

What's worse is some posters wanting someone who averages 29 in List A's to replace Umar

Intelligence.

 

[JibranAnsari]

If Umar batted conservatively like Shehzad he wouldn't be averaging 35

He could have been actually of some use then.!

 

[fasihulhaq94]

If Umar batted conservatively like Shehzad he wouldn't be averaging 35

let shehzad play 96 odis like umar and he will definitely be averaging 38+

 

[Haroon786]

See post #22.

You're using that cutoff to mask his failures.

 

[Aman]

Intelligence.

Nah just blind hate.

 

[Aman]

let shehzad play 96 odis like umar and he will definitely be averaging 38+

Doubt that, if he's averaging 35 now, I'd love to see what he averages after a few series in Aus and England.

 

[Haroon786]

He could have been actually of some use than.!

 

[zabalestmsm]

Well Shehzad is good. At least he has been scoring runs. Unlike others. He aint a torture. Yet. Yes he has a defensive mindset though.

 

[Haroon786]

Nah just blind hate.

No I think they genuinely believe what they're saying, which makes it even worse.

 

[Haroon786]

Nah just blind hate.

No I think they genuinely believe what they're saying, which makes it even worse.

 

[Aman]

No I think they genuinely believe what they're saying, which makes it even worse.

God, I don't understand what people see in Shehzad, the guy screams hack. Mamoon described it best when he said he holds the bat like a brick

 

[cricketerB94]

The OP isn't calling spade a spade , he is asking to drop him.

Find two replacements then.

I suggest 1, Afaq raheem.

Sami Aslam
Babar Azam
Imam ul Haq

These three are batter and talented and ofcourse Afaq.
Now suggest a better LOI wk-batsman than Ukmal. Please not Sarfraz this time.

 

[Arsal_AK]

Doubt that, if he's averaging 35 now, I'd love to see what he averages after a few series in Aus and England.

He did average 45 in SA though.

 

[Arsal_AK]

You're using that cutoff to mask his failures.

He was 18 when he debuted.Since his comeback he has been a totally different player.I don't know what is so hard to get in that.

 

[Aman]

He did average 45 in SA though.

Boosted by that hundred against 'Steyn, Morkel and Philander'

 

[Arsal_AK]

Okay lets drop Shehzad.

Suggest me who do we replace him with??

 

[Aman]

A youngster striking at 70's is useless, I can't believe people are defending this hack.

I would rather take a 30 averaging 85 SR player over him.

What use is a 40 runs off 60-70 balls when the par score these days seems to be closer to 300?

 

[Arsal_AK]

Boosted by that hundred against 'Steyn, Morkel and Philander'

Nasir, Maqsood,Misbah,Umar,Amin all played didn't they??

What was stopping them to get the ton??

 

[Aman]

Okay lets drop Shehzad.

Suggest me who do we replace him with??

Babar or Sami.

 

[Aman]

Nasir, Maqsood,Misbah,Umar,Amin all played didn't they??

What was stopping them to get the ton??

Umar bats at 6, do you know how difficult it is to score a hundred from there?

Nasir is shot.

Maqsood was relatively new.

Misbah can't score a hundred ANYWHERE.

Amin struggles to make 50.

 

[JibranAnsari]

^ especially even after coming at 6 he gets out in batting power plays mostly.

 

[Aman]

Difference is there are replacements for Shehzad. For Umar? No.

 

[Aman]

^ especially even after coming at 6 he gets out in batting power plays mostly.

Umar has the record for most hundreds at 6 IIRC.

 

[JibranAnsari]

We won't know unless we give them a chance.

 

[Haroon786]

Umar debuted at 18-19 aswell.

 

[shah_1]

You are talking as we have abundance of talent in opening department, accept it this the we have got. Our fans so superficial and delusional.

 

[shah_1]

Nasir has failed as well

 

[Aman]

You are talking as we have abundance of talent in opening department, accept it this the we have got. Our fans so superficial and delusional.

Sami Aslam is the leading run scorer in U19 history

 

[Aman]

He took that record off de Kock as well

 

[Haroon786]

Umar has the best innings to 50 ratio for any Pakistani batsman.

 

[Arsal_AK]

Babar or Sami.

You need two openers.They can slotted in at the no2 position No??

 

[cricketerB94]

We won't know unless we give them a chance.

Same can be said about Shezi replacements.

 

[Aman]

Umar has the best innings to 50 ratio for any Pakistani batsman.

Drop him for Sarfraz #PPlogic

 

[shah_1]

First we need to replace Sharjeel, can't see him succeeding with his horrid technique

 

[Aman]

You need two openers.They can slotted in at the no2 position No??

Get them both in, they can't possibly be worse than momentum killer.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Same can be said about Shezi replacements.

Go ahead!

Though i am waiting for shehzad to actually fail after his comeback.

 

[Arsal_AK]

Get them both in, they can't possibly be worse than momentum killer.

You will the first one to call for their head if they flop two matches in a row.

 

[Haroon786]

The only ones that are delusional are the fans trying to defend Shezhad.

 

[Arsal_AK]

Go ahead!

Though i am waiting for shehzad to actually fail after his comeback.

This.

 

[Arsal_AK]

The only ones that are delusional are the fans trying to defend Shezhad.

When you have nothing to say, start calling others delusional.

 

[Haroon786]

Drop him for Sarfraz #PPlogic

Drop Shezhad for Sarfraz.

 

[Aman]

You will the first one to call for their head if they flop two matches in a row.

Difference is Umar gets out trying to build momentum, he doesn't get out after handing over the early ascendancy to the opposition.

 

[Haroon786]

When you have nothing to say, start calling others delusional.

I'm afraid yet again you're wrong.