Al-Qaeda vows to demolish Ayodhya Ram temple — ‘Babri Masjid will be rebuilt over place of idols’

[Cpt. Rishwat]

So you agree with the assertion, and your only comment is that expansionism is a good thing. Fair enough.

Yes I agree with it. Islam is expansionist, it is not a secret.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Yes I agree with it. Islam is expansionist, it is not a secret.

The core point was that islamists delegitimse muslims who are not into expansionism. So we are on the same page.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The core point was that islamists delegitimse muslims who are not into expansionism. So we are on the same page.

Yes your core point is correct, Islamists deligitmise Muslims who are not into expansionism, Islam according to Islamists is for everyone. My addendum to your core point was that all major ideologies are expansionists be it capitalism, marxism, etc. So maybe we are on the same page with a sticky note attached.

 

[Suleiman]

This I agree with, Pakistan with its financial and military might has a good chance of one day conquering Bharat.

P.S. My only doubt here is, it was the Mughals that conquered back in the day, not sure if the converts who are now in control can do what the Mughals did, but I remain optimistic.

I find it interesting how use the word convert here. As if you are lower to someone who is born Muslim if you came back to Islam later in life. Sorry, but no. This is not the caste system of Hinduism.

Every Muslim has equal right regardless of if they are reverts, born into Islam, Arabs, non Arabs, it doesn’t matter.

But in any case. Muslims started out as tribesmen in a desert, yet through the grace of God had one of the greatest empires the world has ever seen a few decades later, trumping the Romans and Persians of the time and reigning from parts of Europe all the way to India. Victories recorded that were far unlikelier than what the Ummah today can or cannot do.

So it’s all good, you can remain optimistic.

Btw, Doesn’t matter to me if it’s Pakistan or whoever. Firstly, this concept of nationalism in countries doesn’t exist in Islam so I don’t have any stake in Pakistan itself as an entity. 50 years down the line it may have a different name or encompass different areas. We are Muslim first then whatever nationality second.

In Islam you have one unified Ummah.

Unfortunately we are divided today and not at our best, that was prophesied.

But we will unite and rise again, that too was prophesied.

 

[CricketCartoons]

But we will unite and rise again, that too was prophesied.

100% of people who believed in this prophesy have passed away without seeing it fulfilled. But who is to deny the succour that belief provided them in their life time?

So it may be comforting to you to have the belief, but eschatology is just mythology of the future.

 

[Bewal Express]

Show proof/citations that RSS are above the law.

Who has been convicted of the murder of Muslims in India?

 

[CricketCartoons]

Who has been convicted of the murder of Muslims in India?

non sequitur. I asked to show proof that RSS are above the law. I can give many examples of RSS workers murdered by extremists.

And instead of answering you ask an unrelated question. There are many muslims who killed hindus and havent faced justice.

 

[Bewal Express]

non sequitur. I asked to show proof that RSS are above the law. I can give many examples of RSS workers murdered by extremists.

And instead of answering you ask an unrelated question. There are many muslims who killed hindus and havent faced justice.

Because they instigate and get people killed and they don't get charged. Seriously mate, you need to get a life. If you believe the thugs are good people then get a mirror and have a good look at what you see

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Funny how Tablighis considered Pakistan unnecessary

 

[I think therfore I am]

Pran Pratistha = Infusing murti (idol) with pran (Life force). Its a ceremony to invite deity (God). Regarding Garbhgudi, please share references and which scriptures to be precise. They are 4 vedas which veda are you referring to? Gudi literally means temple.

But the idol is not God in the temple. It's been made by man.

 

[Kroll]

Relax, nothing is going to happen not by Al Qaeda, the Luxury Taiba or the three musketeers. The Print is a very low quality source.

 

[IndoorCricket]

But the idol is not God in the temple. It's been made by man.

It looks like you don't know what you are speaking. According to vedic rituals pran prathistha means consecration of a deity into a murthi. It's the invoking of nirghuna (formless ) to ghuna( form). Come back with valid references before we continue.

 

[I think therfore I am]

It looks like you don't know what you are speaking. According to vedic rituals pran prathistha means consecration of a deity into a murthi. It's the invoking of nirghuna (formless ) to ghuna( form). Come back with valid references before we continue.

But God does not live in a temple

 

[IndoorCricket]

But God does not live in a temple

Make an effort to understand the concept of GOD in terms of Hinduism. These circular logic will not help move forward this conversation.

 

[I think therfore I am]

Make an effort to understand the concept of GOD in terms of Hinduism. These circular logic will not help move forward this conversation.

Then why you so eager to respond and creaming yourself to have the last word. Kill your ego brother

 

[I think therfore I am]

But God does not live in a temple

Read Yajurveda 40.9, Yajurveda 32.3 and Bhagavadgita 7.20

 

[IndoorCricket]

Read Yajurveda 40.9, Yajurveda 32.3 and Bhagavadgita 7.20

You have to have an deeper understanding of what Krishna is saying. The ultimate goal is liberation (Moksha) thats what Krishna means here. Your practices and sadhana should be for attaining Krishna (aka liberation). Earthly and materialistic desires will only take make you stuck in maya. Dissolving one self through devotion of (Form of Formless diety) is the quickest way to reach it.

"It has become a trite saying that idolatry is wrong, and every man swallows it at the present time without questioning. I once thought so, and to pay the penalty of that I had to learn my lesson sitting at the feet of a man who realised everything through idols; I allude to Ramakrishna Paramahamsa. If such Ramakrishna Paramahamsas are produced by idol-worship, what will you have — the reformer’s creed or any number of idols? I want an answer. Take a thousand idols more if you can produce Ramakrishna Paramahamsas through idol worship, and may God speed you! Produce such noble natures by any means you can. Yet idolatry is condemned! Why? Nobody knows." - Swami Vivekananda

 

[IndoorCricket]

Then why you so eager to respond and creaming yourself to have the last word. Kill your ego brother

Lets see, you quoted me first and stated Vedic knowledge. Check yourself first.

 

[I think therfore I am]

You have to have an deeper understanding of what Krishna is saying. The ultimate goal is liberation (Moksha) thats what Krishna means here. Your practices and sadhana should be for attaining Krishna (aka liberation). Earthly and materialistic desires will only take make you stuck in maya. Dissolving one self through devotion of (Form of Formless diety) is the quickest way to reach it.

"It has become a trite saying that idolatry is wrong, and every man swallows it at the present time without questioning. I once thought so, and to pay the penalty of that I had to learn my lesson sitting at the feet of a man who realised everything through idols; I allude to Ramakrishna Paramahamsa. If such Ramakrishna Paramahamsas are produced by idol-worship, what will you have — the reformer’s creed or any number of idols? I want an answer. Take a thousand idols more if you can produce Ramakrishna Paramahamsas through idol worship, and may God speed you! Produce such noble natures by any means you can. Yet idolatry is condemned! Why? Nobody knows." - Swami Vivekananda

Where did I say idolatry is wrong? The above is you subjective opinion. Let's agree to disagree

 

[I think therfore I am]

Lets see, you quoted me first and stated Vedic knowledge. Check yourself first.

Hmm there's nothing to see. You made a claim and I countered. If you're in disagreement, great that's what freedom of speech is.

Conversation done

 

[Nikhil_cric]

The essence of the Nazis lives through the israeli's of today, though.

Just like the essence of the pagans of ancient Iraq who opposed Prophet Abraham, pagan Romans who opposed Prophet Jesus and the pagan Arabs who opposed Prophet Muhammad lives through the pagans of India today.

Peace and blessings be upon all prophets of God, who preached to worship Him and Him alone.

This is a very poor analogy based on little understanding of history and simply based on Judeo-Christian and Islamic myths which were used to justify the iconoclasm of both Islam and Christianity.

Perhaps Muslims in particular need to apply historical-standards to their own religion instead of expecting the same from others in the first place.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Because they instigate and get people killed and they don't get charged. Seriously mate, you need to get a life. If you believe the thugs are good people then get a mirror and have a good look at what you see

You called RSS a terrorist org. You need to give proof of their ideological leanings. It is a Hindu Nationalist org, just like Muslim League was a muslim nationalist org. If you think this is like AQ, then that makes the founding party of Pakistan a terrorist org. Come on. If you say you hate RSS, I will understand. But if you use wrong words to describe them, then you have to apply it consistently across the board.

 

[gani999]

You called RSS a terrorist org. You need to give proof of their ideological leanings. It is a Hindu Nationalist org, just like Muslim League was a muslim nationalist org. If you think this is like AQ, then that makes the founding party of Pakistan a terrorist org. Come on. If you say you hate RSS, I will understand. But if you use wrong words to describe them, then you have to apply it consistently across the board.

Dude, give it a rest.
You are dealing with people who have been trained to parrot the same lines without knowing what they are talking about- RSS are terrorists, Modi is fascist, Hindutva is terrorism, yada yada yada, rinse and repeat.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Dude, give it a rest.
You are dealing with people who have been trained to parrot the same lines without knowing what they are talking about- RSS are terrorists, Modi is fascist, Hindutva is terrorism, yada yada yada, rinse and repeat.

Don't waste your time.

I am not seeking to convince him. I am showing everyone else to see the hollowness of this claims. If truth allows lies to be repeated without being challenged, the lies become truth in the eyes of the ignorant.

And anyway, now that I have stopped being an employee every since I got financial freedom, I have lots of time now. Learning music, bakery and latte art and indulging in PP.

 

[uppercut]

Because they instigate and get people killed and they don't get charged. Seriously mate, you need to get a life. If you believe the thugs are good people then get a mirror and have a good look at what you see

In your opinion .... What is the approx death toll due to RSS extremism in the last 10 yrs ? Just give me a number

 

[CricketCartoons]

In your opinion .... What is the approx death toll due to RSS extremism in the last 10 yrs ? Just give me a number

What RSS extremism? If anything RSS has been at the receiving end of extremists and its activists are murdered. But RSS is marching ahead in its vision of a a country where all religious life in harmony and are strongly rooted in indian culture.

 

[Justcrazy]

Al Qaida needs to understand …..

Ram Temple is built as per the directions/orders given by Indian court after giving equal opportunities to both sides i.e. Hindus and Muslims

It’s not the case that BJP and Modi built Ram Mandir in one night by demolishing Babri Masjid like what Mir Baqi did in 15th century who built Babri masjid by demolishing Ram temple.

Also Supreme Court taken cognizance of Muslim side and allotted them place to built Babri Masjid in Ayodhya

I personally feel that demolition of the Mosque was wrong. If the court had passed a judgement first and then a Temple was built , it would have been correct procedure.

 

[Justcrazy]

LOL. RSS has a muslim wing too.

That is a gimmick , you also know that very well.

 

[CricketCartoons]

That is a gimmick , you also know that very well.

No, the extremist muslims shame normal muslims for their opinions which does not follow the islamist agenda. They want to monopolize muslim opinion and thought.

 

[Justcrazy]

No, the extremist muslims shame normal muslims for their opinions which does not follow the islamist agenda. They want to monopolize muslim opinion and thought.

The non-Hindu people of Hindustan must either adopt Hindu culture and languages, must learn and respect and hold in reverence the Hindu religion, must entertain no idea but of those of glorification of the Hindu race and culture ... in a word they must cease to be foreigners; or may stay in the country, wholly subordinated to the Hindu nation, claiming nothing, deserving no privileges, far less any preferential treatment—not even citizens' rights.

MS Golwalkar

This is stance of RSS on Muslims.

 

[IndoorCricket]

The non-Hindu people of Hindustan must either adopt Hindu culture and languages, must learn and respect and hold in reverence the Hindu religion, must entertain no idea but of those of glorification of the Hindu race and culture ... in a word they must cease to be foreigners; or may stay in the country, wholly subordinated to the Hindu nation, claiming nothing, deserving no privileges, far less any preferential treatment—not even citizens' rights.

MS Golwalkar

This is stance of RSS on Muslims.

He said to respect Hindu religion. And glorify Hindu race and culture. Hindu religion and culture are different. Golwalkar said either adopt or respect Hindu culture. What's wrong in it?

 

[uppercut]

I personally feel that demolition of the Mosque was wrong. If the court had passed a judgement first and then a Temple was built , it would have been correct procedure.

Did the dispute start after the Babri mosque was demolished in 1992? If not when did it start and who started it?

 

[globetrotter]

I personally feel that demolition of the Mosque was wrong. If the court had passed a judgement first and then a Temple was built , it would have been correct procedure.

Similarly Mir baqi who built Babri masjid by demolishing Ram mandir was also wrong…. Whether he taken any court or ppls verdict before demolishing Ram Mandir

 

[BouncerGuy]

He said to respect Hindu religion. And glorify Hindu race and culture. Hindu religion and culture are different. Golwalkar said either adopt or respect Hindu culture. What's wrong in it?

in a word they must cease to be foreigners; or may stay in the country, wholly subordinated to the Hindu nation, claiming nothing, deserving no privileges, far less any preferential treatment—not even citizens' rights.

what does this mean then? I know that you can speak English and your native language so you know what this means.

 

[CricketCartoons]

The non-Hindu people of Hindustan must either adopt Hindu culture and languages, must learn and respect and hold in reverence the Hindu religion, must entertain no idea but of those of glorification of the Hindu race and culture ... in a word they must cease to be foreigners; or may stay in the country, wholly subordinated to the Hindu nation, claiming nothing, deserving no privileges, far less any preferential treatment—not even citizens' rights.

MS Golwalkar

This is stance of RSS on Muslims.

Gowalkar was a product of his times and turmoil. Look at the statements of the present chief Bhagwat ( I don't like him as he is too left wing for my liking). He said muslims are equal citizens, but they should give up their claim of supremacy and learn to be equals. Also his quote: "If a Hindu says that no Muslim should live here, then the person is not Hindu. Cow is a holy animal but the people who are lynching others are going against Hindutva. Law should take its own course against them without any partiality."

 

[CricketCartoons]

what does this mean then? I know that you can speak English and your native language so you know what this means.

He was echoing the sentiments of his times. Same sentiment which Q-e-A said and Syed Ahmad Khan said. Cannot be seen in a vacuum.

 

[BouncerGuy]

in a word they must cease to be foreigners; or may stay in the country, wholly subordinated to the Hindu nation, claiming nothing, deserving no privileges, far less any preferential treatment—not even citizens' rights.

He was echoing the sentiments of his times. Same sentiment which Q-e-A said and Syed Ahmad Khan said. Cannot be seen in a vacuum.

please show me proof where QEA said this stuff. He was more into religious harmony than anybody could be at that time. Proof Please so I stand corrected?

 

[Justcrazy]

please show me proof where QEA said this stuff. He was more into religious harmony than anybody could be at that time. Proof Please so I stand corrected?

India After Gandhi: The History of the World's Largest Democracy.

By Guha Ramchandra.

 

[Justcrazy]

Gowalkar was a product of his times and turmoil. Look at the statements of the present chief Bhagwat ( I don't like him as he is too left wing for my liking). He said muslims are equal citizens, but they should give up their claim of supremacy and learn to be equals. Also his quote: "If a Hindu says that no Muslim should live here, then the person is not Hindu. Cow is a holy animal but the people who are lynching others are going against Hindutva. Law should take its own course against them without any partiality."

Those are politically correct statements , the reality is different. We all know the reality , and lets not fool ourselves.

 

[BouncerGuy]

India After Gandhi: The History of the World's Largest Democracy.

By Guha Ramchandra.

Show me the quotes brother. Don't have much time to go through the whole book.

 

[Justcrazy]

Similarly Mir baqi who built Babri masjid by demolishing Ram mandir was also wrong…. Whether he taken any court or ppls verdict before demolishing Ram Mandir

Its a matter of different eras. In those times there was No Internationally recognized boundaries , and no constitution. If Babar did that under this era , certainly he would have been wrong. When we are saying that the act was wrong , it is wrong according to constitution, which did not exist that time.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Those are politically correct statements , the reality is different. We all know the reality , and lets not fool ourselves.

So when Q-e-A talked about harmony they were politically correct statements? As the direct action day showed the reality? Right?

 

[CricketCartoons]

Its a matter of different eras. In those times there was No Internationally recognized boundaries , and no constitution. If Babar did that under this era , certainly he would have been wrong. When we are saying that the act was wrong , it is wrong according to constitution, which did not exist that time.

You mean to say constitution should ignore historical injustice? And count events happening only after the constitution was formed?

Why do nations have truth and reconciliation commissions?

 

[Justcrazy]

Show me the quotes brother. Don't have much time to go through the whole b

You mean to say constitution should ignore historical injustice? And count events happening only after the constitution was formed?

Why do nations have truth and reconciliation commissions?

First understand why we are saying act of demolition is wrong ? It is wrong because it is unconstitutional. So , if constitution did not exist , then the discussion on right and wrong also does not.

The world was different that time. Can you apply todays morality and laws to yesterday ?

 

[IndoorCricket]

what does this mean then? I know that you can speak English and your native language so you know what this means.

Looking about the quotation in wiki. "Golwalkar believed that people following Semitic faiths (particularly Muslims and Christians) must either adopt or respect Hindu culture, otherwise they do not deserve rights the citizen otherwise.

The non-Hindu peoples in Hindusthan must either adopt the Hindu culture and language, must learn to respect and hold in reverence Hindu religion, must entertain no idea but those of glorification of the Hindu race and culture — in one word they must cease to be foreigners, or may stay in the country, wholly subordinated to the Hindu nation, claiming nothing, deserving no privileges, far less preferential treatment—not even citizen's rights."

Asking to respect native culture or adopt is fine. Whats the problem with respecting native culture?

 

[BouncerGuy]

deserving no privileges, far less preferential treatment—not even citizen's rights."

why is this so? Religious freedom is for everyone. You cannot force someone to adopt your religion or else you have no rights in that country. Is that right thing according to you?

 

[CricketCartoons]

First understand why we are saying act of demolition is wrong ? It is wrong because it is unconstitutional. So , if constitution did not exist , then the discussion on right and wrong also does not.

The world was different that time. Can you apply todays morality and laws to yesterday ?

You need a constitution to tell you what is right or wrong? I guess Israel should make a constitution and draw a line in the sand of time, that the status quo is the beginning and everything before that is pre historic. Lets see how many muslims agree to the novel idea

 

[IndoorCricket]

why is this so? Religious freedom is for everyone. You cannot force someone to adopt your religion or else you have no rights in that country. Is that right thing according to you?

You are conflating religion with culture. You can follow whatever religion you want but respect or adopt native culture.

 

[Suleiman]

100% of people who believed in this prophesy have passed away without seeing it fulfilled. But who is to deny the succour that belief provided them in their life time?

So it may be comforting to you to have the belief, but eschatology is just mythology of the future.

Not sure I fully understand your question.

Lemme get it right before I answer. Are you asking that the prophecies don’t matter to you because of those who weren’t able to witness it come to fruition in their life time?

 

[Hitman]

Not sure I fully understand your question.

Lemme get it right before I answer. Are you asking that the prophecies don’t matter to you because of those who weren’t able to witness it come to fruition in their life time?

It's much like Zaid Hamid believing in Ghazwa-E-Hind. He believes it will happen even if he doesn't live to see that day.

 

[IndoorCricket]

You are conflating religion with culture. You can follow whatever religion you want but respect or adopt native culture.

Unless your religion says to disrespect native culture which in the case violates your religious freedom.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Looking about the quotation in wiki. "Golwalkar believed that people following Semitic faiths (particularly Muslims and Christians) must either adopt or respect Hindu culture, otherwise they do not deserve rights the citizen otherwise.

The non-Hindu peoples in Hindusthan must either adopt the Hindu culture and language, must learn to respect and hold in reverence Hindu religion, must entertain no idea but those of glorification of the Hindu race and culture — in one word they must cease to be foreigners, or may stay in the country, wholly subordinated to the Hindu nation, claiming nothing, deserving no privileges, far less preferential treatment—not even citizen's rights."

Asking to respect native culture or adopt is fine. Whats the problem with respecting native culture?

I would suggest that before asking Abrahamics to adopt or glorify hindu culture, first the nation's hindus themselves need to adopt and glorify hindu culture. Where is the evidence of it? Bollywood apes western culture which is itself mostly populated by Abrahamic peoples and their culture.

 

[Romali_rotti]

 

[Romali_rotti]

Bollywood apes western culture which is itself mostly populated by Abrahamic peoples and their culture.

True Cap

To be specific Western culture represent majority Christian faith, there is hardly a whisper for the Islam side of the Abhrahamic faith..

 

[FearlessRoar]

He is Hindu, and he has the right to express his religious sentiments. He is saying all this while sitting in Pakistan because he has all civil rights. However, his views do not portray all Pakistani people.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Case in point about Indians taking their cue from Hollywood:

Rishab Shetty says Bollywood is losing local touch due to 'too much western influence': Why are you trying that?

Kantara’s Rishab Shetty talks about the USP of his blockbuster and where he believes Bollywood is going wrong currently.

www.hindustantimes.com

 

[IndoorCricket]

I would suggest that before asking Abrahamics to adopt or glorify hindu culture, first the nation's hindus themselves need to adopt and glorify hindu culture. Where is the evidence of it? Bollywood apes western culture which is itself mostly populated by Abrahamic peoples and their culture.

You conveniently left out the part where he said to adopt or respect. Golwarker died in 1973, what are you even talking about?

Bollywood is not Indian Cinema. It is part of Indian cinema.It might be popular overseas but Its a small section of film making industry. India has many film making states and recently Tollywood became the highest earning film industry. Tollywood pays utmost respect to Hindu culture right from black and white Ramayana movies era to latest Hanu-man movie (Super hero film based on Hanuman). The highest grossing film in India is Bahubali. It is a Tollywood movie with deep Hindu symbolisms. The recent RRR movie which won Oscar for its Natu-Natu song lifts some of its themes directly from Ramayanam. We grew up watching Mahabharath, Shivpuranas and Ramayan movies. Bollywood is infiltrated by leftist, liberals and coked up Mumbai elites. They are not even aware of common peoples sentiments.

 

[IndoorCricket]

Case in point about Indians taking their cue from Hollywood:

Rishab Shetty says Bollywood is losing local touch due to 'too much western influence': Why are you trying that?

Kantara’s Rishab Shetty talks about the USP of his blockbuster and where he believes Bollywood is going wrong currently.

www.hindustantimes.com

Rishab Shetty is from Kollywood movie Industry. His recent movie Kantara is about tribal cultures, customs and Gods. It is made with a budget of 15 cores and earned well above 400 crores. Goes to show how well revered Hindu culture is in India

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You conveniently left out the part where he said to adopt or respect. Golwarker died in 1973, what are you even talking about?

Bollywood is not Indian Cinema. It is part of Indian cinema.It might be popular overseas but Its a small section of film making industry. India has many film making states and recently Tollywood became the highest earning film industry. Tollywood pays utmost respect to Hindu culture right from black and white Ramayana movies era to latest Hanu-man movie (Super hero film based on Hanuman). The highest grossing film in India is Bahubali. It is a Tollywood movie with deep Hindu symbolisms. The recent RRR movie which won Oscar for its Natu-Natu song lifts some of its themes directly from Ramayanam. We grew up watching Mahabharath, Shivpuranas and Ramayan movies. Bollywood is infiltrated by leftist, liberals and coked up Mumbai elites. They are not even aware of common peoples sentiments.

What is Tollywood? What is Kollywood? You are putting forward film industries which no one outside of Bharat has ever heard of. I am sure in their own locales they might be popular, but what's the chances of them selling out in cineplexes in Russia or Afghanistan?

 

[RexRex]

If they call it Kollywood, I doubt that they ape the west too much.

 

[Theanonymousone]

What is Tollywood? What is Kollywood? You are putting forward film industries which no one outside of Bharat has ever heard of. I am sure in their own locales they might be popular, but what's the chances of them selling out in cineplexes in Russia or Afghanistan?

Doesn't matter right?
Every product has a particular target segment and any additional segment is a bonus

Indian film industry is too big to define it to one language industry that is Bollywood. Tollywood is from Andhra Pradesh and Kollywood is from Karnataka.

Success of recent regional films brought more integration among film audience across India. Like you posted about ‘Kantara’ which is based on cultural aspects of ‘Tulu’ people. And it got wider reception across India.

People are receptive of knowing and respecting others cultures and even religion as long as it doesn't intrude ones own belief.

And to your point, it doesnt need to sell in Russia / Afghanistan cause they are not the target audience.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

If they call it Kollywood, I doubt that they ape the west too much.

I meant Bollywood. As I said I wouldn't know if Kollywood or Tollywood ape the west since I never heard of them before today.

 

[Justcrazy]

So when Q-e-A talked about harmony they were politically correct statements? As the direct action day showed the reality? Right?

Harmony in what ?

You need a constitution to tell you what is right or wrong? I guess Israel should make a constitution and draw a line in the sand of time, that the status quo is the beginning and everything before that is pre historic. Lets see how many muslims agree to the novel idea

When I said that it was unconstitutional , that means that a constitution exists. If you now talk about morality , then there are several things which have been done against Morality throughout history.


Israel cannot go back in time and do that , that is ambiguous argument.

 

[RexRex]

I meant Bollywood. As I said I wouldn't know if Kollywood or Tollywood ape the west since I never heard of them before today.

I was being sarcastic btw, any film industry that calls itself -ollywood should shut itself down or get a more original name.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Question Al Qaeda still relevant? That should be the question.

 

[IndoorCricket]

I meant Bollywood. As I said I wouldn't know if Kollywood or Tollywood ape the west since I never heard of them before today.

You were more than eager to post Kollywood's actor opinion on Bollywood though. If you are not aware doesn't mean these industries aren't popular. They are not as popular as Bollywood. A tollywood movie recently got Oscar award and received standing ovation for its song number.

Japan have their theatres sold out for Tollywood movies.

RRR continues to roar in Japan! Theatre servers crash as people rush to book tickets

SS Rajamouli's RRR is still making waves in Japan. Theatre servers crashed as people rushed to book tickets at Dolby cinema.

www.indiatoday.in

 

[Stewie]

Question Al Qaeda still relevant? That should be the question.

Al Qaeda becomes relevent when they need to be for the benefit of the Western world. If you want an excuse to go attack a country or invade a state, just say they are in cahoots with Al Qaeda or ISIS.

 

[Mesozoic]

Lol.


Now these lot sound like jokers but to be honest if this was 2007, I and most Indians would have been genuinely fearful of such a threat due to the presence of thousands of active Jihadi sleeper cells all across our country. But the NIA has done such a commendable job in 'pest control' over the last 15 years that our internal security is better than ever.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Lol.


Now these lot sound like jokers but to be honest if this was 2007, I and most Indians would have been genuinely fearful of such a threat due to the presence of thousands of active Jihadi sleeper cells all across our country. But the NIA has done such a commendable job in 'pest control' over the last 15 years that our internal security is better than ever.

Whats happened to the thousands of cells?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Lol.


Now these lot sound like jokers but to be honest if this was 2007, I and most Indians would have been genuinely fearful of such a threat due to the presence of thousands of active Jihadi sleeper cells all across our country. But the NIA has done such a commendable job in 'pest control' over the last 15 years that our internal security is better than ever.

I would have thought it would be nigh on impossible to stop terrorism if there was ever really any active jihad cells in your country. Bharati Muslims are by nature docile, even Bollywood films have always depicted them as such with their little topis and prayerful manner.

If you make films about Jihadis it would inevitably be evil Pakistan sending them over.

 

[Varun]

I would have thought it would be nigh on impossible to stop terrorism if there was ever really any active jihad cells in your country. Bharati Muslims are by nature docile, even Bollywood films have always depicted them as such with their little topis and prayerful manner.

If you make films about Jihadis it would inevitably be evil Pakistan sending them over.

How would you categorize "non Bharati" Muslims then? How would you categorize yourself for example in the foreign society you live in?

 

[Rajdeep]

How would you categorize "non Bharati" Muslims then? How would you categorize yourself for example in the foreign society you live in?

He will call himself British

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

He will call himself British

Correct answer.

 

[Mesozoic]

Whats happened to the thousands of cells?

Well some are locked up as you'd expect and the rest (atleast most of them) are just civilians now minding their own literal businesses like selling vegetables and running meat stores while their 'connections' rot in our filthy prisons.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Well some are locked up as you'd expect and the rest (atleast most of them) are just civilians now minding their own literal businesses like selling vegetables and running meat stores while their 'connections' rot in our filthy prisons.

Any sources to prove this round up of thousands of cells? Considering usually even a slightest of tensions between religious communities in Bharat results in riots where thousands of minorities get killed, you would think there would be headlines every day about this or that cell getting rounded up. With names of perpetrators and their links.

 

[Mesozoic]

I would have thought it would be nigh on impossible to stop terrorism if there was ever really any active jihad cells in your country. Bharati Muslims are by nature docile, even Bollywood films have always depicted them as such with their little topis and prayerful manner.

If you make films about Jihadis it would inevitably be evil Pakistan sending them over.

You need to come out of your creepy obsession with Bollywood films, cap. I know, you might be longing for the 'back home' feeling out there on that gloomy island , but there are certainly more and better ways to get a feel of the motherland, other than Bollywood.

Watch ARY news prolly?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You need to come out of your creepy obsession with Bollywood films, cap. I know, you might be longing for the 'back home' feeling out there on that gloomy island , but there are certainly more and better ways to get a feel of the motherland, other than Bollywood.

Watch ARY news prolly?

So the answer is no then, no sources. Well of course their is one source, it is you.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Well some are locked up as you'd expect and the rest (atleast most of them) are just civilians now minding their own literal businesses like selling vegetables and running meat stores while their 'connections' rot in our filthy prisons.

Seems a bit far fetched tbh

 

[Mesozoic]

Any sources to prove this round up of thousands of cells? Considering usually even a slightest of tensions between religious communities in Bharat results in riots where thousands of minorities get killed, you would think there would be headlines every day about this or that cell getting rounded up. With names of perpetrators and their links.

Just five days ago in Assam -

2 convicted in Assam for recruiting youth in Al-Qaeda-affiliated terror module

Two individuals, Jalaluddin Sheikh and Abdus Subhan, were convicted for their involvement in recruiting and radicalising youth to establish a terror module affiliated with Al-Qaeda in the Indian Sub-Continent.

www.indiatoday.in

All the below ones just from 2023. I'm sure , these will suffice.

NIA files supplementary charge sheet against two members of al-Qaeda linked terror group’s module operating from Assam

The National Investigation Agency has filed a supplementary charge sheet against two alleged members of an al-Qaeda linked terrorist group’s module operating from Assam

www.thehindu.com

Probe Agency NIA Attaches Lucknow Home Of Al-Qaeda Terrorist

The NIA attached a house in Uttar Pradesh as "proceeds of terrorism" after discovering that it was being used by an active member of the terror organisation Al-Qaeda and Ansar Gazwat-ul-Hind to prepare for terror attacks, the agency said.

www.ndtv.com

Probe agency NIA files chargesheet against 5 alleged Al-Qaeda operatives

The National Investigation Agency's investigation found that the accused had procured forged documents to operate covertly within the country and advance their terrorist agenda.

www.indiatoday.in

NIA files chargesheet against Al-Qaeda operatives

Bengaluru

www.thehindu.com

NIA arrests suspected Al-Qaeda terrorist in Bengaluru who wanted to join IS

A suspected terrorist, with links to the banned terror outfit Al Qaeda, was arrested in Bengaluru by the National Investigation Agency (NIA) on Saturday morning. The suspect, identified as Arif, was working as a software engineer in Bengaluru. As per the sources, he was in touch with people over...

www.indiatoday.in

 

[Mesozoic]

Seems a bit far fetched tbh

Well I won't blame you. Holding terrorists accountable isn't actually a thing in your parts of the world but here in India, it's just Tuesday afternoon.