Alcohol consumption

[KingKhanWC]

Had a couple of pints last night. Relaxed me nicely after a hard day. Mrs Robert says I am a nicer, happier and more fun person when I have had a glass or two.....

- didn't throw up

- didn't murder anyone

- didn't rape anyone

- didn't crash my car

- wasn't responsible for an unwanted pregnancy

- didn't wake up in hospital or the gutter

- didn't lose my job

Sorry!

No need to be sorry Robert you are an individual but society at large has shown very different version of events.

Islam gives the individual rights but societies rights over rule that of an indivdiual that' why alcohol is ruled out. Simple point which cannot be argued against even by the biggest advocate of alcohol.

 

[JaDed]

Best thing ever

 

[TM Riddle]

Have cut down a lot. Used to drink 2-3 pints on a regular basis about an year ago so much so that it started to affect me immensely.
It's limited mostly to a fortnight consumption now and I love it this way.

 

[TM Riddle]

[MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION] Pra what's your favorite drink?
After experimenting with almost everything available in India, I have found out that nothing beats a pint of Budweiser. Heavenly feeling!

 

[JaDed]

[MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION] Pra what's your favorite drink?
After experimenting with almost everything available in India, I have found out that nothing beats a pint of Budweiser. Heavenly feeling!

rum nd cola ..bacardi 40%acl

 

[Robert]

I am partial to a couple of pints of Rekorderlig cider. Made with various fruits, very tasty and goes down easy.

 

[TM Riddle]

I am partial to a couple of pints of Rekorderlig cider. Made with various fruits, very tasty and goes down easy.

Always wanted to ask this, are ale and beer the same thing?

 

[PakLFC]

Terrible thing is liquor. One man kills the entire family making them suffer like no one's business. It causes fights, money worries and disease like nothing else. Being so addictive it is something near impossible to kick once the person becomes addicted. Another problem is the addict will never accept he or she has a problem so the suffering continues. People don't drink liquor rather it drinks them! Avoid it by all means if you want to live a good, long and clean life.

 

[Kroll]

Always wanted to ask this, are ale and beer the same thing?

An ale is a variety of beer, so yes you can say it is the same thing. So all ales are beers but not all beers are ales.

 

[Devilsadvokat]

Related to alcohol - I'd say that alcohol lubricates many a marital (most kinds really) tumble in bed, in cultures that allow drink. Practising Muslims have to get down to business stone cold sober.

I have heard that alcohol was banned by the Prophet to keep the men disciplined for war/defence. Again I could be making that up, not on purpose though.

 

[venomousx]

This is the exact reason why it is termed as "Umm-ul-Khabais" mother of all evils in the holy Quran.

No it's not. Please stop spreading mis-information. If you are so sure then share the Ayat where it is termed as such.

 

[humzy]

yes lets ban sugar, saturated fat and refined carbohydrates while we are at it?

Or how about we simply educate people and let them decide what they would like to do with their bodies, since you know, we live in a democratic liberal society.

 

[JaDed]

No it's not. Please stop spreading mis-information. If you are so sure then share the Ayat where it is termed as such.

It's a post from 2011 just FYI..

 

[Itachi]

Terrible thing is liquor. One man kills the entire family making them suffer like no one's business. It causes fights, money worries and disease like nothing else. Being so addictive it is something near impossible to kick once the person becomes addicted. Another problem is the addict will never accept he or she has a problem so the suffering continues. People don't drink liquor rather it drinks them! Avoid it by all means if you want to live a good, long and clean life.

You just now interchanged alcohol and addiction without taking any aspect into account.

You can be addicted to your gf and it will yield the same result as you have written above.

Should we stop having relationships?

 

[PakLFC]

You just now interchanged alcohol and addiction without taking any aspect into account.

You can be addicted to your gf and it will yield the same result as you have written above.

Should we stop having relationships?

We are talking about alcohol here not relationships in case it missed you? Oh I see so you are one of those who likes to philosophise about why people drink and the beauty of getting intoxicated until the doctor tells you a liver transplant is required! These are the only FACTS not aspects that I need to now. I did not interchange anything at all rather I am sticking to the thread of topic as always.

 

[Abdul]

I don't mind drinking, will do it if I have to but I always take the responsibility upon myself to make sure that my boys (and girls) get home safely after the parties are over. Designated driver.

 

[Itachi]

We are talking about alcohol here not relationships in case it missed you? Oh I see so you are one of those who likes to philosophise about why people drink and the beauty of getting intoxicated until the doctor tells you a liver transplant is required! These are the only FACTS not aspects that I need to now. I did not interchange anything at all rather I am sticking to the thread of topic as always.

Alcohol doesn't cause liver cirrhosis. Addiction to alcohol does. But addiction to any substance will harm your body anyway so picking only alcohol is misleading.

You have no idea about how people drink. Alcohol consumption and alcohol abuse are two different subject.

If I take consumption same as addiction, then abuse of NSAID drugs cause far severe harmful effects than alcohol. But we use it every now and then.

 

[James]

Myself and my wife have given up drinking at the moment (hopefully permanently) because we are trying for our first child together. We both feel better, physically and mentally.

 

[Varun]

Drink in moderation and only socially if need be. Never drink and drive.

If you don't drink, make it a choice that you have made out of your own terms and nothing else.

 

[PakLFC]

Alcohol doesn't cause liver cirrhosis. Addiction to alcohol does. But addiction to any substance will harm your body anyway so picking only alcohol is misleading.

You have no idea about how people drink. Alcohol consumption and alcohol abuse are two different subject.

If I take consumption same as addiction, then abuse of NSAID drugs cause far severe harmful effects than alcohol. But we use it every now and then.

Alcohol is incredibly addictive besides in Islam even one glass is to many. Other foods may cause health problems as well but they have not been outlawed in Islam. So many people started with just one drink then became addicted to it that they ended up losing their lives. You don't know what you are talking about trying to justify something that has been forbidden in Islam by telling us iit is okay to drink in moderation. No it is not! Medicine can not be compared to alcohol at all! Alcohol is expensive thereby causes poverty in a family as well. I know many moderate drinkers who turned in t full time boozers!

 

[MenInG]

In Canada, it should be Dry January all year round, according to new national recommendations that say zero alcohol is the only risk-free approach.

If you must drink at all, two drinks maximum each week is deemed low-risk by the government-backed guidance.

The advice is a steep drop from the previous recommendation, published in 2011.

Those guidelines allowed a maximum of 10 drinks a week for women and 15 drinks for men.

The new report, funded by Health Canada, also suggested mandatory warning labels for all alcoholic beverages.

"The main message from this new guidance is that any amount of alcohol is not good for your health," said Erin Hobin, a senior scientist with Public Health Ontario and a member of the expert panel that developed the guidelines. "And if you drink, less is better."

The nearly 90-page report, from the Canadian Centre on Substance Use and Addiction (CCSA), details a variety of health risks associated with what was previously considered low alcohol consumption.

According to the CCSA, any more than two standard drinks - each the equivalent of a 12-ounce (341ml; 0.6 pints) serving of 5% alcohol beer or a five-ounce (142ml; 0.26 pints) glass of 12% alcohol wine - brings an increase in negative outcomes, including breast and colon cancer.

It may be a rude awakening for the roughly 80% of Canadian adults who drink.

"The new guidance is maybe a bit shocking," Dr Hobin said. "I think it's very new information for the public that at three standard drinks per week, the risk for head and neck cancers increases by 15%, and further increases with every additional drink."

"Three standard drinks per week to most Canadians wouldn't be considered a large amount of alcohol," she added.

Canadian experts say the drastic change in guidance - from nearly two drinks per day to two per week - is the result of better research over time.

"The data across the board is improving in terms of how and what we're measuring," said Jacob Shelley, a professor of health and law at Western University.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64311705

 

[Robert]

Alcohol is incredibly addictive

Only for people with addictive personalities.

Morphine is rapidly habit-forming for everyone, but booze isn’t. Most people know when to stop.

 

[SalimBhai]

Not a big drinker here. But live a glass of spanish read once in a while . Wine is one of the great pleasures of life ( in moderation)

 

[ElRaja]

Only for people with addictive personalities.

Morphine is rapidly habit-forming for everyone, but booze isn’t. Most people know when to stop.

depends on when you start, drinking habitually in your younger years leaves you with a very high tolerance to alcohol, and you can end up drinking a lot without really being drunk or a drunk.

if weed was legalised alcohol consumption would reduce drastically IMO, but that's a different topic altogether.

 

[PakLFC]

Only for people with addictive personalities.

Morphine is rapidly habit-forming for everyone, but booze isn’t. Most people know when to stop.

No they don't know when to stop. Alcohol abuse is very common as are alcohol anonymous groups. I know many ladies whose husbands beat them up after having ten too many drinks!

 

[sweep_shot]

As a Muslim, I support complete prohibition of alcohol.

Now, if governments don't ban it, I hope there will be common sense laws (including decisive punishments) to prevent alcohol-related accidents. Just a few days ago, a person died near my place; culprit was drunk.

 

[JaDed]

Only for people with addictive personalities.

Morphine is rapidly habit-forming for everyone, but booze isn’t. Most people know when to stop.

Well said but i thing anything exposed during teenage years will be an issue.
Need to be careful on that.

 

[JaDed]

Not a big drinker here. But live a glass of spanish read once in a while . Wine is one of the great pleasures of life ( in moderation)

It is.. but I think I like it more during summers along with beer.
I prefer bourbon in winters.

 

[JaDed]

rum nd cola ..bacardi 40%acl

Ever Since i left Chicago I never had Rum, way too strong and my opinion on has completely changed.

 

[MenInG]

In Canada, it should be Dry January all year round, according to new national recommendations that say zero alcohol is the only risk-free approach.

If you must drink at all, two drinks maximum each week is deemed low-risk by the government-backed guidance.

The advice is a steep drop from the previous recommendation, published in 2011.

Those guidelines allowed a maximum of 10 drinks a week for women and 15 drinks for men.

The new report, funded by Health Canada, also suggested mandatory warning labels for all alcoholic beverages.

"The main message from this new guidance is that any amount of alcohol is not good for your health," said Erin Hobin, a senior scientist with Public Health Ontario and a member of the expert panel that developed the guidelines. "And if you drink, less is better."

The nearly 90-page report, from the Canadian Centre on Substance Use and Addiction (CCSA), details a variety of health risks associated with what was previously considered low alcohol consumption.

According to the CCSA, any more than two standard drinks - each the equivalent of a 12-ounce (341ml; 0.6 pints) serving of 5% alcohol beer or a five-ounce (142ml; 0.26 pints) glass of 12% alcohol wine - brings an increase in negative outcomes, including breast and colon cancer.

It may be a rude awakening for the roughly 80% of Canadian adults who drink.

"The new guidance is maybe a bit shocking," Dr Hobin said. "I think it's very new information for the public that at three standard drinks per week, the risk for head and neck cancers increases by 15%, and further increases with every additional drink."

"Three standard drinks per week to most Canadians wouldn't be considered a large amount of alcohol," she added.

Canadian experts say the drastic change in guidance - from nearly two drinks per day to two per week - is the result of better research over time.

"The data across the board is improving in terms of how and what we're measuring," said Jacob Shelley, a professor of health and law at Western University.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64311705

Amazing from Canada - Good to see that the so-called 'benefits' of Alchohol are being put in their rightful place.

 

[Robert]

As a Muslim, I support complete prohibition of alcohol.

Tried that in USA in the 1920s. Society got worse not better. Nobody stopped drinking. They just did it illegally. There was a massive crime wave as the likes of Capone and Lugano emerged to power.

When they legalised booze again, there was no impact on consumption, and society got better as there was more tax revenue free m alcohol sales and the mobsters lost power.

 

[Robert]

No they don't know when to stop. Alcohol abuse is very common as are alcohol anonymous groups. I know many ladies whose husbands beat them up after having ten too many drinks!

Problems can begin when people use alcohol to self-medicate problems of sadness, anxiety or stress. Then one can find oneself on a slippery slope towards addiction.

If society was not so stressful then this need would not arise.

Put simply, happy folk are unlikely to develop alcohol dependency, or any other such as cannabis or heroin.

https://www.ukat.co.uk/addiction/alcohol/

 

[PakLFC]

Problems can begin when people use alcohol to self-medicate problems of sadness, anxiety or stress. Then one can find oneself on a slippery slope towards addiction.

If society was not so stressful then this need would not arise.

Put simply, happy folk are unlikely to develop alcohol dependency, or any other such as cannabis or heroin.

https://www.ukat.co.uk/addiction/alcohol/

There are a lt of stressed people these days with the cost of living expenses hitting those hard in particular who have a mortgage or rent to worry about. Alcohol is even more popular among people who are celebrating any occasion. I guess it is okay in moderation but for Muslim people that has also been banned.

 

[Robert]

There are a lt of stressed people these days with the cost of living expenses hitting those hard in particular who have a mortgage or rent to worry about. Alcohol is even more popular among people who are celebrating any occasion. I guess it is okay in moderation but for Muslim people that has also been banned.

Alcohol isn’t bad of itself.

A friend of mine used it quite heavily, to help her cope with unhappiness. She came from a chaotic home life, and was looking for love in the wrong places. Later in life she learned to build stable relationships with reliable and decent people, and her use of alcohol fell right off to a couple of wine glasses n a Saturday night.

Youngsters tend to use alcohol as a social lubricant. It helps them relax and have fun. Later in life they don’t need the relaxant social lubricant - tea works just as well for this - plus hangovers get worse and alcohol use tends to drop.

 

[jeetu]

This winter was first time in my life that i brought alcohol in my house. A spoonful of rum/brandy at night was helpful. Still personally i am all for banning alcohol. Its disadvantages far outweigh its usefulness.

 

[PakLFC]

Alcohol isn’t bad of itself.

A friend of mine used it quite heavily, to help her cope with unhappiness. She came from a chaotic home life, and was looking for love in the wrong places. Later in life she learned to build stable relationships with reliable and decent people, and her use of alcohol fell right off to a couple of wine glasses n a Saturday night.

Youngsters tend to use alcohol as a social lubricant. It helps them relax and have fun. Later in life they don’t need the relaxant social lubricant - tea works just as well for this - plus hangovers get worse and alcohol use tends to drop.

I know many people that alcohol has killed. It is so addictive that once a person gets started it is impossible to quit or become a moderate drinker. At times it can be helpful in children if they are in great pain. It can be used asa form of medicine.

 

[Robert]

I know many people that alcohol has killed. It is so addictive that once a person gets started it is impossible to quit or become a moderate drinker.

I don’t know anyone who was killed by alcohol. I do know a couple of recovering alcoholics though. They were able to quit totally.

I used to go out with the lads and have six pints then a kebab after closing time. These days, just a glass or two during film night with Mrs Robert, or a glass at a restaurant.

 

[PakLFC]

I don’t know anyone who was killed by alcohol. I do know a couple of recovering alcoholics though. They were able to quit totally.

I used to go out with the lads and have six pints then a kebab after closing time. These days, just a glass or two during film night with Mrs Robert, or a glass at a restaurant.

Can assure you alcohol kills many people. Accorxing to Google 3 million people are killed by it every year.

"three million people
The World Health Organization estimates that alcohol kills three million people throughout the world every year. In other words, alcohol is the cause of 5.3% of all human deaths annually. About 1 in every 20 deaths worldwide is the result of an alcohol-related disease, injury, accident, murder, or suicide.

Her's hoping you will even quit the few glasses you are still taking.

 

[SalimBhai]

A couple of glasss of wine here and there in one of the pleasures of life. Key is moderation

 

[MenInG]

Thread is to discuss the good and bad of alcohol and not to discuss your favourites etc