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Alvaro Morata, Romelu Lukaku, Alexandre Lacazette: Which is the better signing?

Alvaro Morata, Romelu Lukaku, Alexandre Lacazette: Which is the better signing?


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Chelsea have agreed a deal for Alvaro Morata, Manchester United signed Romelu Lukaku and Arsenal broke their transfer record to bring in Alexandre Lacazette.

But who scored the most goals last season, who works hardest for the team, and who has the most potential to succeed?

In short, which club got the best deal?
 
Lukaku easily, not being biased but he is a complete Jose player to the T, he is already thriving and will suit this system and absolutely love it. If he can score 24 goals for a mid table team imagine what he will produce playing with Pogba, Herrera, Henrikh, Mata and Rashford.

Morata has a big challenge ahead of him, a feel he will be a step down from Costa. He is a good finisher and a goal poacher, but it is one thing poaching away goals at RM with Ronaldo on the left, Bale on the right and Modric/Kroos behind you then playing at Chelsea. Even J.Hernandez was successful playing as a goal poacher at RM, unfortunately he never found that kind of supply ever again at any other club and nor will Morata.

Haven't seen enough off Lacazette to come to a conclusion but if he is to succeed, Wenger needs to first sort the supply he will get especially with Sanchez/Ozil going.
 
Lukaku. Call me biased, I don't care but proven PL scorer and an absolute tank.
Only downfall is that his first touch/hold up play isn't the greatest but with more motivation and competition I'm hoping he'll overcome these minor trechnical difficulties.

Morata has a very good record but he's been playing for teams that dominate their league. He's a downgrade from Costa. And that's the best way to put it.

Lacazette, aka, the french Defoe. Don't care for a team that'll end up 6th.
 
Agree with above. Lukaku will help United break into top 4 but can't see the others having a similar impact on their clubs. As a Barca fan though, happy to see Morata leave Madrid. Always happy when the enemy is weakened! But if these Neymar to PSG rumors are true, we're about to get a lot weaker ourselves...
 
Going with Morata. I suspect the other two might flatter to deceive. Also, my bias comes into play. :P
 
Lukaku, ahead of Lcz'te.

I don't think, it should be based on player's quality or price only - rather their role & Manager's football philosophy should be considered. Wenger loves to play on grass & his team moves the ball around - AL is a fantastic choice for his CF. Morata is one of the best young CFs around, worthy of his fee in this market - but, he is hired to replace the most fierce competitor of the game; I am not sure if he can do that dog fight like Costa. If Conte changes his formation to accommodate 2 strikers, may be Morata will give him 25 EPL goals - but, more than goals, the work load that Costa managed, not sure if Morata (or any Spanish forward - I know, Costa plays for Spain) can manage as solo striker; probably Bellotti was better choice. I think, for this one Conte got a blow below belt from Mou - didn't even give him time to flex his mafia money for Lukaku.

JoMou is the meanest & cunningest managers around; and he is ruthless. He plays the game to win by whatever means & he knows exactly what he is good at. History tells, JoMo had been a great valet (but for bus, not for limo) and his game is best when there is a dominant power forward, who'll wrestle around box. From Jardel at Porto to Milito, Drogba, Costa, Ibra - his No. 9s are hustler with lots of power, height & mass, but not necessarily the quickest guy with ball. At Real, he tried CR at CF, which the best player in La Liga didn't like, because he loves to run rather than waiting for the ball facing own goal keeper. Everton effectively was paid around 90mn (Rooney had a face value of 15mn, which was wiped out for his loyalty & as sweetener in bargain), and still they are robbed in this market, because they cashed too early. JoMo didn't wait much, because he could sense what was going around - if these Naymer, Mbappe, Lemar, Kieta, Coutinho, VVD ...... deal closes at close to their quoted value - Everton could have asked 100mn+ only in cash for Lukaku and they actually would have got it either from London or Manchester, for that the potential for Lukaku is unreal under JoMo or Conte.

Best business in EPL this year ............... well, of course behind our Yanks & their beloved Manager - we have robbed every other team of the future Gary Linekar (because he was a free agent, released from his contract by Chelsea, anyone could have got him - we beat them all) for 5mn & bluffed mighty Hull City for future Steve Nicol for only 8mn ........
 
All three of them scored their first PL goals for their new clubs in pretty quick time.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alvaro Morata is the 1st player in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PL?src=hash">#PL</a> history to both score and assist a goal in each of his first two home matches <a href="https://t.co/7RMXuEDpju">pic.twitter.com/7RMXuEDpju</a></p>— Premier League (@premierleague) <a href="https://twitter.com/premierleague/status/901978404471398400">August 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Lukaku proven goal scorer in England. He's a beast. I'd say one of the best strikers in England right now. Morata and Lacazette are over rated in my opinion.
 
Morata for me. Lakaku has a terrible first touch which is why against the better teams he has struggled. Morata was a better deal and has everything.
 
Morata for me. Lakaku has a terrible first touch which is why against the better teams he has struggled. Morata was a better deal and has everything.

While playing against those 'better teams' he was also playing for a midtable team with an average MF and poor service. He has been given a top MF now and has become a menace, having scored 25 goals without service for a mid table team last season, i will be shocked if he doesn't get 30+ goals this season.

Morata on the other hand is a good player but only when in the box. He obviously has good finishing skills but we have only seen him play with the worlds top players at RM, if he doesn't get that kind of service here, he will flop. Also from the first few games this season it seems he has a problem for scoring own goals during set pieces. For Chelsea he is a down grade from Costa while Lukaku is an upgrade from Zlatan.
 
While playing against those 'better teams' he was also playing for a midtable team with an average MF and poor service. He has been given a top MF now and has become a menace, having scored 25 goals without service for a mid table team last season, i will be shocked if he doesn't get 30+ goals this season.

Morata on the other hand is a good player but only when in the box. He obviously has good finishing skills but we have only seen him play with the worlds top players at RM, if he doesn't get that kind of service here, he will flop. Also from the first few games this season it seems he has a problem for scoring own goals during set pieces. For Chelsea he is a down grade from Costa while Lukaku is an upgrade from Zlatan.

Your touch is your touch, the opposition is irrelevant. He is known as 'brick feet' which means he is unable to cushion the ball so he can control it, Rooney had the same problem to some extent esp in the major international tournaments. He is then easily closed down by the better defenders/midfielders. It's something he can improve on and of course he is a powerful striker with pace and good finishing ability. His other problem is he isn't the smartest forward, hardly ever picks up poachers goals. So far Utd have played the weaker teams , let's see how he does against Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs, City etc..

Morata on the other hand has no real weaknesses. Not as powerful or fast as Lakaku but better than him in all other areas. He is new to the premier league but has fitted in really well so far. Costa is a great striker but his temperament was weak ,getting carded every game. Morata has a cool persona and will be one of the great strikers in the premier league in years to come.
 
Your touch is your touch, the opposition is irrelevant. He is known as 'brick feet' which means he is unable to cushion the ball so he can control it, Rooney had the same problem to some extent esp in the major international tournaments. He is then easily closed down by the better defenders/midfielders. It's something he can improve on and of course he is a powerful striker with pace and good finishing ability. His other problem is he isn't the smartest forward, hardly ever picks up poachers goals. So far Utd have played the weaker teams , let's see how he does against Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs, City etc..

Morata on the other hand has no real weaknesses. Not as powerful or fast as Lakaku but better than him in all other areas. He is new to the premier league but has fitted in really well so far. Costa is a great striker but his temperament was weak ,getting carded every game. Morata has a cool persona and will be one of the great strikers in the premier league in years to come.

Opposition is irrelevant? are you joking me. scoring 25 goals for a mid table team in the EPL is no easy task. His first touch being poor is being over exaggerated, he might not have the best touch but its not as bad as you are making it out as. As for being a poacher, you will not pick up those goals till you have great players around you, a poacher is only effective when the service is incredible which wasn't at everton. Therefore its silly to judge his poaching abilities while at everton.

...and its the same reason why i said Morata will flop, because everyone is only looking at his stats which dont show the bigger picture, he was only poaching goals at RM while playing with the best players in the world around him. I dont think he is better than Lukaku in any areas other then finishing maybe. Theres a reason why he was always on the bench.

and Costa was a good striker not a great one, the temperament and aggression is what made him good without that he was nothing. He complemented Hazard really well, which i dont think Morata will, Lukuku was a ready made replacement for Costa. Morata was the wrong buy, a panic purchase really, Conte should have gone for Belloti once Lukaku was gone.

At the end of the day theres a reason why Lukaku was Contes first choice and Jose scraped plans to bring Morata once Lukaku was headed this way, despite being more expensive.
 
Opposition is irrelevant? are you joking me. scoring 25 goals for a mid table team in the EPL is no easy task. His first touch being poor is being over exaggerated, he might not have the best touch but its not as bad as you are making it out as. As for being a poacher, you will not pick up those goals till you have great players around you, a poacher is only effective when the service is incredible which wasn't at everton. Therefore its silly to judge his poaching abilities while at everton.

...and its the same reason why i said Morata will flop, because everyone is only looking at his stats which dont show the bigger picture, he was only poaching goals at RM while playing with the best players in the world around him. I dont think he is better than Lukaku in any areas other then finishing maybe. Theres a reason why he was always on the bench.

and Costa was a good striker not a great one, the temperament and aggression is what made him good without that he was nothing. He complemented Hazard really well, which i dont think Morata will, Lukuku was a ready made replacement for Costa. Morata was the wrong buy, a panic purchase really, Conte should have gone for Belloti once Lukaku was gone.

At the end of the day theres a reason why Lukaku was Contes first choice and Jose scraped plans to bring Morata once Lukaku was headed this way, despite being more expensive.

When talking about his touch, whether he's playing against Barcelona or Aston Villa it has no relevance. The guy is poor in this regard but let me guess you're a Man Utd fan?

As for poaching its the natural instinct of the player and the intelligence to get into the right positions. Lakaku doesn't have either.

The reason Morata was on the bench is due to the clubs he played for and the level of competition. Lakuku would have come off the bench even less if he was in the same position.

Lakaku played for Chelsea previously, he was begging to return for a couple of seasons and Morata didnt look every interested and I can tell you most Chelsea fans (not me) are happy they paid a lot less for Morata instead of the inflated price for a striker who has a few issues.

Let's see by the end of the season if Morata is a flop.
 
When talking about his touch, whether he's playing against Barcelona or Aston Villa it has no relevance. The guy is poor in this regard but let me guess you're a Man Utd fan?

As for poaching its the natural instinct of the player and the intelligence to get into the right positions. Lakaku doesn't have either.

The reason Morata was on the bench is due to the clubs he played for and the level of competition. Lakuku would have come off the bench even less if he was in the same position.

Lakaku played for Chelsea previously, he was begging to return for a couple of seasons and Morata didnt look every interested and I can tell you most Chelsea fans (not me) are happy they paid a lot less for Morata instead of the inflated price for a striker who has a few issues.

Let's see by the end of the season if Morata is a flop.

Like i said, his first touch is being highly over exaggerated. I take it you haven't even seen the guy play much and are just going on what you hear.

As for poaching there is no point in having the natural instinct and intelligence to get in the right position when your team mates hardly put the ball in the box. No pocher would ever set the world alight playing for a mid table team, you would never know how good they are when playing with average players.

...and on the opposite, when you have world beaters on your team who constantly put the ball in the box and the right areas and when the opposition is poor like it is in LaLiga, a poor poacher can look good.

In terms of why he was always on the bench, was not the level of opposition but maybe because he was just average, at RM he was competing with Benzema, who himself is quite over rated. Lukaku would walk in to that team to replace Benzema on only the basis of his strength and power alone, which would suit Ronaldo and Bale well.

At Juve the competition was much poorer yet he was not always starting either.

Chelsea were the ones that were desperate for Lukaku, he was not begging them otherwise he would have gone there, In the end they got Morata who himself had no where else to go, even Juve had dropped interest, so it was Chelsea or stay on the bench at RM for another season.

Its obvious why Chelsea fans are happy, it happens all the time at every club, you lose out on a player and he becomes a villian, you buy one and hes a hero.

The facts are infront of you, Chelsea were so desperate for Lukaku they had to match our bid on the day he signed. Morata is a panic buy. Jose played you, not in only taking Lukaku away but also making you panic and buy the wrong man, Chelsea should have gone for Belloti.

Lastly it is morata who was inflated, i even mentioned it in the transfer thread when we showed interest so no bias there, but who the hell pays £70m for a bench warmer, as for Lukaku, had Jose delayed the signing, today he would have had to pay £100m for him, yea he might have one or two issues but its alot less then Morata.
 
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Like i said, his first touch is being highly over exaggerated. I take it you haven't even seen the guy play much and are just going on what you hear.

As for poaching there is no point in having the natural instinct and intelligence to get in the right position when your team mates hardly put the ball in the box. No pocher would ever set the world alight playing for a mid table team, you would never know how good they are when playing with average players.

...and on the opposite, when you have world beaters on your team who constantly put the ball in the box and the right areas and when the opposition is poor like it is in LaLiga, a poor poacher can look good.

In terms of why he was always on the bench, was not the level of opposition but maybe because he was just average, at RM he was competing with Benzema, who himself is quite over rated. Lukaku would walk in to that team to replace Benzema on only the basis of his strength and power alone, which would suit Ronaldo and Bale well.

At Juve the competition was much poorer yet he was not always starting either.

Chelsea were the ones that were desperate for Lukaku, he was not begging them otherwise he would have gone there, In the end they got Morata who himself had no where else to go, even Juve had dropped interest, so it was Chelsea or stay on the bench at RM for another season.

Its obvious why Chelsea fans are happy, it happens all the time at every club, you lose out on a player and he becomes a villian, you buy one and hes a hero.

The facts are infront of you, Chelsea were so desperate for Lukaku they had to match our bid on the day he signed. Morata is a panic buy. Jose played you, not in only taking Lukaku away but also making you panic and buy the wrong man, Chelsea should have gone for Belloti.

Lastly it is morata who was inflated, i even mentioned it in the transfer thread when we showed interest so no bias there, but who the hell pays £70m for a bench warmer, as for Lukaku, had Jose delayed the signing, today he would have had to pay £100m for him, yea he might have one or two issues but its alot less then Morata.

Lakaku wouldnt walk into the Madrid team lol. Benzema has experience of scoring goals agaisnt top opposition in important matches which Lakaku has yet to manage so far.

I have seen him since he was at Chelsea, it's common knowledge it's poor. Only a deluded Man Utd fan would think otherwise and most who are not accept this. It's a valid and fair criticism. I guess Ryan Giggs doesnt know what he's talking about either and you do? lol

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...h-premier-league-season-2017-18-a7871156.html


The initial fee for Morata was £58 million where as Lakaku was much higher, Chelsea have the better signing in all regards, which is the topic at hand.

As a Man Utd fan I can see why it's important for you to feel this way and ignore the relalities in front of you. :)
 
Lakaku wouldnt walk into the Madrid team lol. Benzema has experience of scoring goals agaisnt top opposition in important matches which Lakaku has yet to manage so far.

I have seen him since he was at Chelsea, it's common knowledge it's poor. Only a deluded Man Utd fan would think otherwise and most who are not accept this. It's a valid and fair criticism. I guess Ryan Giggs doesnt know what he's talking about either and you do? lol

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...h-premier-league-season-2017-18-a7871156.html


The initial fee for Morata was £58 million where as Lakaku was much higher, Chelsea have the better signing in all regards, which is the topic at hand.

As a Man Utd fan I can see why it's important for you to feel this way and ignore the relalities in front of you. :)

Benzema has experience of scoring against top opposition, YES, while Lukaku has experience of scoring goals while playing for a midtable team in the most competitive and physical league in the world.

The only thing you have given against Lukuku is a few rants without proving anything, just ranting and ranting with no logic, yet you have the audacity to call me deluded, which is laughable when one reads your posts.

Here are more stats

If you look at the stats from last season you’ll see that the Belgian target man recorded FEWER unsuccessful touches than most of his direct rivals.

Diego Costa (107), Alexis Sanchez (94), Harry Kane (83) and Sergio Aguero (79) were all guilty of loose control more often than Lukaku (77).

Costa and Kane in particular are often praised for the link-up play and ability to hold up the ball with their back to goal, yet their numbers compare unfavourable to Lukaku’s.
https://www.dreamteamfc.com/c/news-...ukakus-first-touch-is-completely-unjustified/

Its obvious you have never seen him play but now are crying only because you lost out on signing him.

Here are more stats which show Morata is not even in Lukakus league.


First lets compare him with Costa, from last season

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from Squawka

So they have similar stats from last season, but ofcourse Costa was playing in a team where he got support and service while Lukaku was a one man army.

Club goals before age of 23:
Ronaldo – 194
Raul – 145
Lionel Messi – 127
Sergio Aguero – 124
Romelu Lukaku – 119
Michael Owen – 111
Cristiano Ronaldo – 97
Fernando Torres – 87
Wayne Rooney – 94
Luis Suarez – 77
David Villa – 70
Zlatan Ibrahimovic – 69
Alan Shearer – 65
Thierry Henry – 57

Players to score 80 Premier League goals before turning 24:
Robbie Fowler
Michael Owen
Wayne Rooney
Romelu Lukaku

Minutes per chance created –
Alexis Sanchez – 40.5 mins
Zlatan Ibrahimovic – 50.8
Romelu Lukaku – 65.7

Premier League goals since 2012/13:
Sergio Aguero – 99 (147)
Romelu Lukaku – 85 (176)
Harry Kane – 78 (105)
Olivier Giroud – 69 (126)
Christian Benteke – 66 (154)
Luis Suarez – 54 (66)
Wayne Rooney – 54 (142)
Alexis Sanchez – 53 (103)
Diego Costa – 52 (89)

Goals plus assists –
Harry Kane – 62
Romelu Lukaku – 55
Alexis Sanchez – 51
Sergio Aguero – 49

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">57 - Romelu Lukaku scored the most goals among the current under 23 players in the top 5 leagues. Young. <a href="https://t.co/67RDr0LkFG">pic.twitter.com/67RDr0LkFG</a></p>— OptaJean (@OptaJean) <a href="https://twitter.com/OptaJean/status/684771340428140544">January 6, 2016</a></blockquote>
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^ You dont accept what Ryan Giggs says being a Man Utd fan? lol

I dont need to see statistics, Ive watched him many times and watch as much football as anyone including live at the grounds.

Lakaku with his technical issues and price is not a better signing than Morata who has no weaknesses and was priced much much lower. This is the topic at hand, not your personal obsession with Lakaku. :inti

Im a Liverpool fan but it was obvious you're a Man Utd fan or am I wrong like you were? :shhh
 
Its obvious you just have hatred for anything MU that its gotten to you like a bug

Morata has no weaknesses :))) :))), i guess thats why he has always struggled to get in a starting lineup.

The personal obsession with Lukaku was with Chelsea, its manager and there fans till they lost out on him :))) and had to buy a reject of RM, who suddenly has no weaknesses, now this is obsession.

You dont need statistics? oh yea fantastic, because you just seem to make your mind up based on obsession.

You just have to live with the fact we have the best striker in the EPL, i know facts can hurt but its the bitter truth for you.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What a start to life in the PL &#55357;&#56399;&#55356;&#57340;<br><br>Morata<br>Mins played: 457<br>Goals: 6<br><br>Aguero <br>Mins played: 467<br>Goals: 6<br><br>Lukaku <br>Mins played: 540<br>Goals: 6 <a href="https://t.co/jIGb7iCvka">pic.twitter.com/jIGb7iCvka</a></p>— ESPN UK (@ESPNUK) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNUK/status/911636994421350401">September 23, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Morata and Lukaku are on fire.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alexandre Lacazette becomes the first <a href="https://twitter.com/Arsenal">@Arsenal</a> player to score in their first 3 home league games since Brian Marwood in 1988 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Lacazette?src=hash">#Lacazette</a> <a href="https://t.co/y5z8tCUhQZ">pic.twitter.com/y5z8tCUhQZ</a></p>— Sky Sports Statto (@SkySportsStatto) <a href="https://twitter.com/SkySportsStatto/status/912397232485347329">September 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Its obvious you just have hatred for anything MU that its gotten to you like a bug

Morata has no weaknesses :))) :))), i guess thats why he has always struggled to get in a starting lineup.

The personal obsession with Lukaku was with Chelsea, its manager and there fans till they lost out on him :))) and had to buy a reject of RM, who suddenly has no weaknesses, now this is obsession.

You dont need statistics? oh yea fantastic, because you just seem to make your mind up based on obsession.

You just have to live with the fact we have the best striker in the EPL, i know facts can hurt but its the bitter truth for you.


Petro u cannot say that about morata - look at juve strike force when he was at thr - tevez was great for us, and how was he ever going to beat ronaldo for the CF position at madrid or even benzema who was better than morata.

we will have to wait and see which one off lukakau,morata,kane,lacazette will turn out to be the better buy. i would finish off by and say wait and see how gabiel jesus turn out to be- he looks great as well.

Thing with morata is it seems hes a bit like higuain - head goes down, lukaku - first touch has been described as a curb, lacazette scored so many peno at lyon and couldnt beat giroud to the striker role for france, kane is english and no offence we know the story........ Gabriel however is brazillian
 
Morata reminds me of Torres, always been a fan of his. Was great at Juve, Madrid and now doing the goods at Chelsea.

Lukaku is just a pure goal scorer with a ridiculous record by the age of 24.
 
Its obvious you just have hatred for anything MU that its gotten to you like a bug

Morata has no weaknesses :))) :))), i guess thats why he has always struggled to get in a starting lineup.

The personal obsession with Lukaku was with Chelsea, its manager and there fans till they lost out on him :))) and had to buy a reject of RM, who suddenly has no weaknesses, now this is obsession.

You dont need statistics? oh yea fantastic, because you just seem to make your mind up based on obsession.

You just have to live with the fact we have the best striker in the EPL, i know facts can hurt but its the bitter truth for you.

Do you still believe Lakaku is the best striker? :)
 
Lukaku has premier league experience:yk2 :yk2.

Ozil doesn't perform in big games he is given stick. Time for Lukaku to get some stick. Even at Everton he was poor versus the top teams.
 
Lukaku wasn't getting the service.

Watched the whole 90+ mins and didn’t see Lukaku hold up the ball and bring others into play at all. Can go both ways. Also, Mkhitaryan has also been awful for ages now, no idea why Mata doesn’t get a look in as the 10 in the 352.
 
[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

Totally agree with your assessment. Lukaku is a hack who is horribly mediocre technically. He is strong as a bull but football is not wrestling, and apart from some purple patches against poor opposition, he has consistently struggled against quality opposition.

[MENTION=130076]PetroDollars[/MENTION] has a documented history of hyping Man United players so I won't take him seriously. I remember him stating that Depay is going to be better than Sanchez. I am sure deep down he believes that Martial is better than Mbappe and Rashford is better than Dybala.

Morata is technically very gifted. He can make a difference even when he is not scoring, and he has the tendency of turning up in big games. If he works hard he can go very far in his career. A wonderful signing by Chelsea and Conte dodged by a bullet by not bringing back the poor man's Drogba.
 
Morata looks like a quality player. Slightly overpriced but no doubt about his ability.
 
[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

Totally agree with your assessment. Lukaku is a hack who is horribly mediocre technically. He is strong as a bull but football is not wrestling, and apart from some purple patches against poor opposition, he has consistently struggled against quality opposition.

[MENTION=130076]PetroDollars[/MENTION] has a documented history of hyping Man United players so I won't take him seriously. I remember him stating that Depay is going to be better than Sanchez. I am sure deep down he believes that Martial is better than Mbappe and Rashford is better than Dybala.

Morata is technically very gifted. He can make a difference even when he is not scoring, and he has the tendency of turning up in big games. If he works hard he can go very far in his career. A wonderful signing by Chelsea and Conte dodged by a bullet by not bringing back the poor man's Drogba.

LOL, yea it didn't turn out well for Depay but everyone makes predictions and judgements on young players and how they will turn, some come right some dont and the irony is a hack like yourself who defended Wenger for selling RVP and buying Girioud and thought he was going to be the next Messi, hypocrisy.
 
LOL, yea it didn't turn out well for Depay but everyone makes predictions and judgements on young players and how they will turn, some come right some dont and the irony is a hack like yourself who defended Wenger for selling RVP and buying Girioud and thought he was going to be the next Messi, hypocrisy.

You have a dug a hole for yourself, I would suggest that you stop digging....or should I say, lying.

I have been a big critic of Giroud for years now, and even a football ignorant person like yourself would not dare to compare him to Messi even in his most wildest dreams. Well unless he ends up signing for Man United, which will automatically make him the best in the world.
 
You have a dug a hole for yourself, I would suggest that you stop digging....or should I say, lying.

I have been a big critic of Giroud for years now, and even a football ignorant person like yourself would not dare to compare him to Messi even in his most wildest dreams. Well unless he ends up signing for Man United, which will automatically make him the best in the world.

:))) now you are going to live in denial about your own self

Yes you became a critic of him when it became obvious to even a 5 year old he was useless.
 
:))) now you are going to live in denial about your own self

Yes you became a critic of him when it became obvious to even a 5 year old he was useless.

You have been thoroughly embarrassed over the last few weeks and you have developed a rather interestingly odd coping mechanism. Please show me a single post where I have compared Giroud to Messi - it is an open challenge.
 
Lukaku is the best but he isnt the one that people would get most excited about. Had he moved to Madrid, Barca or PSG he would have been a headline signing. Moving down the road from Everton doesnt excite many people but he definetly is the best signing because he found his feet in the last couple of seasons and now he seems to be the finished article.

Morata is still discovering himself and Lacazette although has not been poor but he hasnt been the goal a match player he was in the French league.
 
You have been thoroughly embarrassed over the last few weeks and you have developed a rather interestingly odd coping mechanism. Please show me a single post where I have compared Giroud to Messi - it is an open challenge.

:)))

If you go back to when RVP was sold you will find the post, at the same time, you can check all the other gems you have come up with, there wont be any shortage of laughter.

..and yes i have been embarrassed because Morata scored an open header while the defence was sleeping while Lukaku didnt, yes i have been embarrassed in your little head :)))
 
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If you go back to when RVP was sold you will find the post, at the same time, you can check all the other gems you have come up with, there wont be any shortage of laughter.

..and yes i have been embarrassed because Morata scored an open header while the defence was sleeping while Lukaku didnt, yes i have been embarrassed in your little head :)))

As I expected, you have not been able to come up with a single post where I compared Giroud to Messi. As I said, you have developed a comical coping mechanism. Speaking of van Persie, I am not a believer in keeping unhappy players at the club, but shipping him to Man United was an unpardonable blunder.

Morata played much better than Lukaku throughout the game, and that is because he is simply a better player than him even when he doesn't score. Lukaku minus goals against small teams is a hack, and that is something everyone realizes barring delusional Man United fans.
 
As I expected, you have not been able to come up with a single post where I compared Giroud to Messi. As I said, you have developed a comical coping mechanism. Speaking of van Persie, I am not a believer in keeping unhappy players at the club, but shipping him to Man United was an unpardonable blunder.

Morata played much better than Lukaku throughout the game, and that is because he is simply a better player than him even when he doesn't score. Lukaku minus goals against small teams is a hack, and that is something everyone realizes barring delusional Man United fans.

You can go search those posts yourself, you dont need to backtrack because the fool you made of yourself then you continue to even today, Nothing has changed with you.

..and no morata did not play better, only for people who look at score sheets and decide who played good or bad by how many they scored. He scored a free header while being unmarked, other then that he was poor.

...and despite Lukakus goal drought and MF collapse since Pogbas injury and Henrikh being poor, he still has the same number of goals and assists as Morata.

As for when there not scoring, then again your wrong, Morata goes missing while Lukuku always contributes to the attack like he did against Spurs. Morata is a serious downgrade from Costa and we already know Lukaku did better than him last season while playing his football for a mid table team.

Delusional are those people who where hyping him up when they though he was headed for Chelsea but couldn't take it when we signed.
 
You can go search those posts yourself, you dont need to backtrack because the fool you made of yourself then you continue to even today, Nothing has changed with you.

..and no morata did not play better, only for people who look at score sheets and decide who played good or bad by how many they scored. He scored a free header while being unmarked, other then that he was poor.

...and despite Lukakus goal drought and MF collapse since Pogbas injury and Henrikh being poor, he still has the same number of goals and assists as Morata.

As for when there not scoring, then again your wrong, Morata goes missing while Lukuku always contributes to the attack like he did against Spurs. Morata is a serious downgrade from Costa and we already know Lukaku did better than him last season while playing his football for a mid table team.

Delusional are those people who where hyping him up when they though he was headed for Chelsea but couldn't take it when we signed.

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That would have been possible had I compared Giroud to Messi in the first place. As expected, you have comprehensively failed in finding something that never existed. Your way of getting yourself out of the tangle you have walked yourself into is to invent a narrative. I am not sure if it is bizarre, or funny - probably both.

Of course Lukaku is better than Morata. He plays for Man United so obviously he is much better than Lukaku. You don't need to explain why, Man United players are by default the best in the world. Mkhitaryan is better than de Bruyne too.
 
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That would have been possible had I compared Giroud to Messi in the first place. As expected, you have comprehensively failed in finding something that never existed. Your way of getting yourself out of the tangle you have walked yourself into is to invent a narrative. I am not sure if it is bizarre, or funny - probably both.

Of course Lukaku is better than Morata. He plays for Man United so obviously he is much better than Lukaku. You don't need to explain why, Man United players are by default the best in the world. Mkhitaryan is better than de Bruyne too.

So you continue to live in denial about your own self :))) what a great life your living.

..and no Henrikh isnt better then De Bruyn but Lukaku is way ahead of Morata and its not even close but at least you have admitted that now, you are becoming a bit smarter, well done, but just a bit.
 
Feel sorry for Lacazette, the guy can't be in the discussion because Wenger is too idiotic to start him for every PL game.
 
As I expected, you have not been able to come up with a single post where I compared Giroud to Messi. As I said, you have developed a comical coping mechanism. Speaking of van Persie, I am not a believer in keeping unhappy players at the club, but shipping him to Man United was an unpardonable blunder.

Morata played much better than Lukaku throughout the game, and that is because he is simply a better player than him even when he doesn't score. Lukaku minus goals against small teams is a hack, and that is something everyone realizes barring delusional Man United fans.

Didn’t RVp join Man Utd on a free transfer? :13:

I don’t think he was “shipped” to them....
 
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Lukaku easily, not being biased but he is a complete Jose player to the T, he is already thriving and will suit this system and absolutely love it. If he can score 24 goals for a mid table team imagine what he will produce playing with Pogba, Herrera, Henrikh, Mata and Rashford.

Morata has a big challenge ahead of him, a feel he will be a step down from Costa. He is a good finisher and a goal poacher, but it is one thing poaching away goals at RM with Ronaldo on the left, Bale on the right and Modric/Kroos behind you then playing at Chelsea. Even J.Hernandez was successful playing as a goal poacher at RM, unfortunately he never found that kind of supply ever again at any other club and nor will Morata.

Haven't seen enough off Lacazette to come to a conclusion but if he is to succeed, Wenger needs to first sort the supply he will get especially with Sanchez/Ozil going.

Not a big game player, will never be a big game player, anybody can bully the lower table teams.
 
Lukaku. Call me biased, I don't care but proven PL scorer and an absolute tank.
Only downfall is that his first touch/hold up play isn't the greatest but with more motivation and competition I'm hoping he'll overcome these minor trechnical difficulties.

Morata has a very good record but he's been playing for teams that dominate their league. He's a downgrade from Costa. And that's the best way to put it.

Lacazette, aka, the french Defoe. Don't care for a team that'll end up 6th.



Lacazette - 8 Goals
Lukaku - 8 Goals
Morata - 9 Goals

I mean you are being biased so pretty relevant to call you that.
 
You have a dug a hole for yourself, I would suggest that you stop digging....or should I say, lying.

I have been a big critic of Giroud for years now, and even a football ignorant person like yourself would not dare to compare him to Messi even in his most wildest dreams. Well unless he ends up signing for Man United, which will automatically make him the best in the world.

105 Goals and 41 assists, 7th all time goal scorer for the French national team, 2 behind Zidane in 4th. Another Arsenal fan that judges a footballers ability on dribbling and speed.

Okay
 
All 3 had diabolical games this weekend, but Lukaku had the worst, missing a sitter and made two defensive errors leading to goals.
 
105 Goals and 41 assists, 7th all time goal scorer for the French national team, 2 behind Zidane in 4th. Another Arsenal fan that judges a footballers ability on dribbling and speed.

Okay

Another ‘football fan’ judging a player by X number of goals in Y number of games without applying context.

Giroud is a very good backup ST, probably the best in contemporary football, but no team can win the PL with him leading the line. The fact that Wenger allowed him to be the main man for 5 years showcases his decline as a manager.
 
Another ‘football fan’ judging a player by X number of goals in Y number of games without applying context.

Giroud is a very good backup ST, probably the best in contemporary football, but no team can win the PL with him leading the line. The fact that Wenger allowed him to be the main man for 5 years showcases his decline as a manager.

I actually play football, if you let go of your blind hate and watched analysis of his game play you will realize numerous times where he has dragged multiple defenders to him with his movement causing a massive gap to open up between them for talented playmakers to run in behind unchallenged. It is his most underrated quality, it should not be a coincidence to some that the games he has played so far this year have yielded our highest tally with midfielders having a field day. Just something to think about

Should be starting with Lacazette, need to drop Sanchez permanently now, does not want to be there and we are still playing him even though man has given the ball away 50+ times in just two premier league games. He is toxic
 
I actually play football, if you let go of your blind hate and watched analysis of his game play you will realize numerous times where he has dragged multiple defenders to him with his movement causing a massive gap to open up between them for talented playmakers to run in behind unchallenged. It is his most underrated quality, it should not be a coincidence to some that the games he has played so far this year have yielded our highest tally with midfielders having a field day. Just something to think about

Should be starting with Lacazette, need to drop Sanchez permanently now, does not want to be there and we are still playing him even though man has given the ball away 50+ times in just two premier league games. He is toxic

You don’t have to teach me football - you are subscribing to the classic apologist view. Sure, Giroud’s drags defenders out of position and brings the midfielders into play, but his lousy finishing, lack of pace and propensity to disappear for 3 months every season has been a huge problem for Arsenal.

Put him on the market now, and not a single top team would want him as their first-choice ST. Certainly, many teams would love him as a plan B, because he can give you 15-20 goals a season at best.

Sanchez is the type of player who will always give his 100%, so I don’t think his commitment is an issue. I think he is burned out - he has played non-stop football for 3-4 years without a summer off.

It was only a matter of time before his level dropped off, and I think his peak was 2014-2017 which he wasted at Arsenal. This might be the right time to part ways with him.
 
Chelsea should start Batshuayi over Morata. He's faster, and a better dribbler.
 
Cant belive people though Morata was better than Lukaku :facepalm:

Lakaku finally scored against a big team! Morata has been injured but played well enough to score against Man Utd but failed to do so but he's still better than a minnow basher.
 
Lakaku finally scored against a big team! Morata has been injured but played well enough to score against Man Utd but failed to do so but he's still better than a minnow basher.

First goal against a top-eight side this season, I believe.
 
Lakaku finally scored against a big team! Morata has been injured but played well enough to score against Man Utd but failed to do so but he's still better than a minnow basher.

If Lukaku is not scoring he is always setting them up and dropping and helping the team out.

Morata does not even have 50% of the quality of Lukaku
 
Lakaku at the moment if I had to choose. Though none of the three have really set the EPL alight.
 
Well today showed what he brings to the team, when hes not scoring he plays a major part in winning the game.

This talk of him not performing against top teams is useless now.
 
Lacazette - 8 Goals
Lukaku - 8 Goals
Morata - 9 Goals

I mean you are being biased so pretty relevant to call you that.

And after the season, which of the 3 would you rather have/have had the most impact?

Lukaku is the best of all 3. Morata can't even get in the Spain squad and Lacazette. Lol, I'd rather have Giroud
 
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