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Krewella won’t play India’s Sunburn Festival after the duo’s visas were apparently denied due to their Pakistani heritage.

Jahan Yousaf and Yasmine Yousaf, the Pakistani-American sisters who perform as Krewella, shared a handwritten post on social media explaining the visa snafu. The pair, who performed twice in India in 2014, say they’re “so heartbroken” by the situation.

“It is with heavy hearts that we inform you that due to our Pakistani heritage, our visas have been repeatedly denied and we will not be able to enter your country for Sunburn Festival,” the message reads. Our team tried every avenue possible but now have reached the end. We are so heartbroken since we were looking forward to being reunited with our Desi Krew. We hope the state of affairs between the two countries can be resolved someday soon.”

According to the Guardian, travelers who disclose a family connection with Pakistan triggers demands for extra information and a long processing period, which can make travel to India impossible.

The complicated entry protocols caught out Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Shaharyar Khan last year when he was reportedly held-up by immigration officials at Kolkata airport for several hours after arriving through the wrong port of entry.

Sunburn celebrates its 10-year anniversary in Pune on Dec. 28 through Dec. 31 with such headliners as Afrojack, Armin Van Buuren and Axwell & Ingrosso. Krewella were scheduled to perform on Dec. 29. Read their message below.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/n...lla-visa-india-sunburn-fest-pakistan-heritage
 
Damn

Legit didn't know they had Pakistani heritage

I mean seen a lot about them pn social media over the years but never followed them.

Also it looks they are actually big on their own rather than being propped up by Desi fans

Will give a listen
 
India says they have nothing against regular Pakistanis and only got beef with out government yet they discriminate against regular Pakistanis or people of Pakistani heritage like me.

Btw I find it funny the music festival is called 'Sunburn music festival' lol, you know desis don't sunburn.
 
Pakistani heritage meaning they were not even born in Pakistan but because of Pakistani parents they have been barred from entering.

Just ridiculous and if I was fair minded Indian I would be embarrassed to see such open discrimination. I don't know what they are trying to achieve with such a position.
 
Just found out if fact both sisters are only have half Pakistani heritage from their father side while their mother was Lithuanian but they were born in Texas.

Makes it even more ridiculous.
 
Just found out if fact both sisters are only have half Pakistani heritage from their father side while their mother was Lithuanian but they were born in Texas.

Makes it even more ridiculous.

Why is it ridiculous? We follow the one drop rule bruh, one Pakistani parent = full Pakistani.
 
The duo seem fairly huge

I'm surprised Pakistanis didn't claim them as their own and make big hoo haa about as we do with literally every other celebrity with Pakistani blood
 
The duo seem fairly huge

I'm surprised Pakistanis didn't claim them as their own and make big hoo haa about as we do with literally every other celebrity with Pakistani blood

I've been a fan for like 3 years now.
 
They can ban whoever they want. It's similar to how many people of Indian background even if never having visited their country of ethnicity will never be given entrance to Pak. It works both ways.
 
Why is it ridiculous? We follow the one drop rule bruh, one Pakistani parent = full Pakistani.

It makes it ridiculous in the sense that just because one of thier parents have been born somewhere else they are being barred into a country.

It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
 
They shouldn't be banned,instead the authorities should do their jobs on background and make sure another David doesn't spring up,instead they are banning just anyone also considering they have performed 2 years ago the only thing that has changed now is the central GOV,should directly blame them.
 
Pakistani heritage meaning they were not even born in Pakistan but because of Pakistani parents they have been barred from entering.

Just ridiculous and if I was fair minded Indian I would be embarrassed to see such open discrimination. I don't know what they are trying to achieve with such a position.

It is more of a defense than anything else. They probably allocated certain number of visas for Pakistani per year/month. Most of visas will be granted to celebrities, wealthy businessmen, doctors, patients on medical tourism and reputable people. There is no discrimination, they just don't know who you are enough to trust you. I doubt the guy who denied their visa knew about them or even about this festival in India.
 
It is more of a defense than anything else. They probably allocated certain number of visas for Pakistani per year/month. Most of visas will be granted to celebrities, wealthy businessmen, doctors, patients on medical tourism and reputable people. There is no discrimination, they just don't know who you are enough to trust you. I doubt the guy who denied their visa knew about them or even about this festival in India.

Bruh stop trying. The first thing you got wrong is that they're AMERICAN, so it makes no sense that they'd be subjected to some visa cap India has for Pakistanis, unless of course they also have a cap on Pakistani origin people they admit. I swear I don't expect such dumb stuff from a college educated person.
 
They can ban whoever they want. It's similar to how many people of Indian background even if never having visited their country of ethnicity will never be given entrance to Pak. It works both ways.

I think kumar sanu's concert was cancelled last month, I don't know what they were trying to achieve ? Sorry I don't know why I'm posting like a hypocrite.
 
They shouldn't be banned,instead the authorities should do their jobs on background and make sure another David doesn't spring up,instead they are banning just anyone also considering they have performed 2 years ago the only thing that has changed now is the central GOV,should directly blame them.

Suddenly the band became very popular, bad PR, Tbh no one cares
 
Just found out if fact both sisters are only have half Pakistani heritage from their father side while their mother was Lithuanian but they were born in Texas.

Makes it even more ridiculous.
They could have had 3 out of 4 American grandparents of European ancestry going back to the time of The Mayflower, but if the 4th grandparent was born in Pakistan, same situation.....
 
They could have had 3 out of 4 American grandparents of European ancestry going back to the time of The Mayflower, but if the 4th grandparent was born in Pakistan, same situation.....

lol they might require DNA tests in the future, if you get 1% Pakistani then you get rejected :))
 
Bruh stop trying. The first thing you got wrong is that they're AMERICAN, so it makes no sense that they'd be subjected to some visa cap India has for Pakistanis, unless of course they also have a cap on Pakistani origin people they admit. I swear I don't expect such dumb stuff from a college educated person.

After Headley,even people of Pakistani origin are treated as same as Pakistanis.
 
Another blow to "biggest democracy" sham. This band isn't even involved in political point scoing like some cricketers and Bollywood actors. Modi is destroying secular values of India in the name of nationalism. SAD!
 
I think kumar sanu's concert was cancelled last month, I don't know what they were trying to achieve ? Sorry I don't know why I'm posting like a hypocrite.

I know many Indian's who have wanted to see Pakistan or visit their ancestral homes being denied visa's. If Bollywood movies are being shown in Pak cinema's then many Pakistanis are challenging them, they could very well be banned again. Don't think "Dangal" will be shown and rightly so. Pak should pay India back with the same coin.
 
Another blow to "biggest democracy" sham. This band isn't even involved in political point scoing like some cricketers and Bollywood actors. Modi is destroying secular values of India in the name of nationalism. SAD!

I do not support the move to deny them visa, but what has this got to do with India's secular or democratic values?
 
I do not support the move to ban them, but what has this got to do with India's secular or democratic values?

You have to keep religion separate from politics. The only reason they were banned is because of their Muslim heritage.
 
Religion wasn't a factor here, their ethnic heritage was.

Yes that could be a possibility but my sixth sense says it had something to do with religion. Would they have been denied entry if Pakistan was not a Muslim majority country?
 
Their visa should not be denied because of their heritage but because of how rubbish they are. How can anyone listen to such music is well and truly beyond me.
 
Yes that could be a possibility but my sixth sense says it had something to do with religion. Would they have been denied entry if Pakistan was not a Muslim majority country?

Bigger Muslim artists like Akon have performed here. Nothing to do with religion.
 
Well the likes of Zayn Malik, Akon do identify themselves as muslims even if they don't actually give a damn. Doesn't that count?

Nah these two actively state that they aren't Muslims anymore but do identify with Pakistani/desi culture

The others do identify themselves with Muslims and it's their private matter whether they follow practises or not
 
Nah these two actively state that they aren't Muslims anymore but do identify with Pakistani/desi culture

The others do identify themselves with Muslims and it's their private matter whether they follow practises or not

Oh thanks for the clarification man. I thought they were practising Muslims.
 
After Headley,even people of Pakistani origin are treated as same as Pakistanis.

That's a load of bull because this same band got essy entry in 2014. And so do if your name is Atif Aslam or Rahat Fateh Ali Khan.

Just a sham democracy that's playing sham politics. Like someone said maybe the BJP government should invest in a DNA machine to dig out as many people as they can who are of Pakistani origin so the ban can stretch even longer.
 
That's a load of bull because this same band got essy entry in 2014. And so do if your name is Atif Aslam or Rahat Fateh Ali Khan.

Just a sham democracy that's playing sham politics. Like someone said maybe the BJP government should invest in a DNA machine to dig out as many people as they can who are of Pakistani origin so the ban can stretch even longer.

We learnt our lessons after headley.

Just because a few slipped through does'nt mean we should allow others as well.

You have very limited understanding about democracy having never been used to it.It has nothing to do with immigration.Any nation can pick and choose who it lets into the country and still be 100% democratic.
 
We learnt our lessons after headley.

Just because a few slipped through does'nt mean we should allow others as well.

You have very limited understanding about democracy having never been used to it.It has nothing to do with immigration.Any nation can pick and choose who it lets into the country and still be 100% democratic.

Yeah some girl band from America is clearly coming to get you guys.
 
That's a load of bull because this same band got essy entry in 2014. And so do if your name is Atif Aslam or Rahat Fateh Ali Khan.

Just a sham democracy that's playing sham politics. Like someone said maybe the BJP government should invest in a DNA machine to dig out as many people as they can who are of Pakistani origin so the ban can stretch even longer.

This is 2016 and Indo-Pak relations are at their lowest.Also Sunburn this year is in Maharashtra,the state govt may not have given clearance for Pakistanis.

What do you mean by Sham democracy?Do democracies routinely handout visas to anyone who applies?Democracy has nothing to do here,its about poor relations between two countries.I believe you have a poor understanding of what is a democracy.
 
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Yeah some girl band from America is clearly coming to get you guys.

Headley used his oppurtunities to visit India to conduct Recce.I just realised that the Sunburn this year is in Pune Maharashtra and not Goa.The Maharashtra govt isnt too fond of Pakistanis.
 
Another blow to "biggest democracy" sham. This band isn't even involved in political point scoing like some cricketers and Bollywood actors. Modi is destroying secular values of India in the name of nationalism. SAD!

What blow sir?I think you need to understand the meaning of secularism and democracy.Giving visas to foreigners have nothing to with either.
 
We learnt our lessons after headley.

Just because a few slipped through does'nt mean we should allow others as well.

You have very limited understanding about democracy having never been used to it.It has nothing to do with immigration.Any nation can pick and choose who it lets into the country and still be 100% democratic.

I know what democracy means and it's not just about voting political parties as you wish and see fit but also the institutions you build.

Yes of course if you wish to ban every Pakistani including those that were not even born there should you so wish but it doesn't mean I can not label it a sham democracy with its ugly head of discrimination on full force.

You haven't learn any lessons as this is not the way to behave if you want to fight criminals or terrorists by targeting people that have nothing to do with it. But then again we know how tolerant India is maybe good on them not to visit such a country again.
 
I know what democracy means and it's not just about voting political parties as you wish and see fit but also the institutions you build.

Yes of course if you wish to ban every Pakistani including those that were not even born there should you so wish but it doesn't mean I can not label it a sham democracy with its ugly head of discrimination on full force.

You haven't learn any lessons as this is not the way to behave if you want to fight criminals or terrorists by targeting people that have nothing to do with it. But then again we know how tolerant India is maybe good on them not to visit such a country again.

You must understand that India and Pakistan are not friendly countries and every country reserves the right to deny or allow a foreigner visa.Visa is not a right that anyone can claim and its denial doesnot mean a country isnt a democracy,theocracy,monarchy etc etc.It just means that xyz isnt welcome in that country.
 
It just baffles me how some People just blindly defend anything from their country regardless of how obviously wrong it is...

This is defending the indefensible

Fascinating!

Anyways this is getting India some bad rep
 
Looks like people from other countries are more worried about Americans being denied visa to India than say Americans themselves.
 
Looks like people from other countries are more worried about Americans being denied visa to India than say Americans themselves.

Cause they're of Pakistani descent and which is why they were denied visas to India :facepalm:
 
Looks like people from other countries are more worried about Americans being denied visa to India than say Americans themselves.

Lol are you playing dumb

Why were they not given visa? What is this forum?
 
Lol are you playing dumb

Why were they not given visa? What is this forum?

Post 19,although this probably would be the reason but official reason has not been given,also don't Pakistanis directly get visa for medical treatment in India?IIRC there was a news 2 weeks ago on the same.

Also if you notice this line:
travelers who disclose a family connection with Pakistan triggers demands for extra information and a long processing period, which can make travel to India impossible. ,

says it was going to take extra time for getting the visa,do you blame India for being careful after Headingly issue?
 
Bruh stop trying. The first thing you got wrong is that they're AMERICAN, so it makes no sense that they'd be subjected to some visa cap India has for Pakistanis, unless of course they also have a cap on Pakistani origin people they admit. I swear I don't expect such dumb stuff from a college educated person.

So you think India hates all the Pakistanis so they decided not to even let an American girl with Pakistani ancestry ? When I said "There is no discrimination, they just don't know who you are enough to trust you " It was for you not getting an Indian visa. They are not going to take a risk with you and let ever Tom, DIck and Harry of Pakistan born.
 
Post 19,although this probably would be the reason but official reason has not been given,also don't Pakistanis directly get visa for medical treatment in India?IIRC there was a news 2 weeks ago on the same.

Also if you notice this line:
travelers who disclose a family connection with Pakistan triggers demands for extra information and a long processing period, which can make travel to India impossible. ,

says it was going to take extra time for getting the visa,do you blame India for being careful after Headingly issue?

No pointing in wasting time, some people are selfish and can't think from others point of view. LOL at the guy who is mad at India cause he didn't get an Indian visa being an "American" despite being born in US LOL.
 
Yes that could be a possibility but my sixth sense says it had something to do with religion. Would they have been denied entry if Pakistan was not a Muslim majority country but still had people of that origin attack Indian civilians and military? How about if their country's military was behind the training of terrorists that attacked 100s of civilians?

You should have asked this way. It is more appropriate.
 
so you think india hates all the pakistanis so they decided not to even let an american girl with pakistani ancestry ? When i said "there is no discrimination, they just don't know who you are enough to trust you " it was for you not getting an indian visa. They are not going to take a risk with you and let ever tom, dick and harry of pakistan born.

yet they had just performed in india two years ago!
 
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Lmao @ some posters trying to label it undemocratic and unsecular.. This has got nothing to do with being democratic or secular, even assuming they were denied visa due to there Pakistani heritage is due to the fact India and Pakistan has bad relation atm..

Doesn't democratic countries like U.K. U.S. Deny visa to Pakistanis/Indians coz of fear of something or the other so if denying visa makes any country undemocratic/unsecular then all the countries in the world are the same..

And about giving a bad rep to India apart from here at PP that too in time pass section no one even knows about this band or they got denied visa.. doubt you will find any American who gives 2 hoots about it..

Posters here are so biased it's disgraceful and cringeworthy..
 
No pointing in wasting time, some people are selfish and can't think from others point of view. LOL at the guy who is mad at India cause he didn't get an Indian visa being an "American" despite being born in US LOL.

You don't even make sense

It's funny how you're even more loyal to India than Indians haha.
 
It just baffles me how some People just blindly defend anything from their country regardless of how obviously wrong it is...

This is defending the indefensible

Fascinating!

Anyways this is getting India some bad rep


How it is wrong for a country to deny a foreigner visa?Is getting a visa some kind of right or is it a priviledge that depends on the will of the country you apply the visa for?

Many countries deny visa to people of certain countries.There is nothing wrong in it.
 
How it is wrong for a country to deny a foreigner visa?Is getting a visa some kind of right or is it a priviledge that depends on the will of the country you apply the visa for?

Many countries deny visa to people of certain countries.There is nothing wrong in it.

Reasoning is wrong esp when the said people haven't ever stepped foot in Pakistan and have been to India twice
 
Reasoning is wrong esp when the said people haven't ever stepped foot in Pakistan and have been to India twice

Lots of things have changed in the world.The relations of countries are fluid.Last year Modi was in Pakistan to meet Sharif.This year we know what is the condition of relations.If anyone has been given a visa in past doesnt mean they will be given this year.Have happened to my friends who got US visa before 2001 and didnt get one post 2001.
 
Lmao @ some posters trying to label it undemocratic and unsecular.. This has got nothing to do with being democratic or secular, even assuming they were denied visa due to there Pakistani heritage is due to the fact India and Pakistan has bad relation atm..

Doesn't democratic countries like U.K. U.S. Deny visa to Pakistanis/Indians coz of fear of something or the other so if denying visa makes any country undemocratic/unsecular then all the countries in the world are the same..

And about giving a bad rep to India apart from here at PP that too in time pass section no one even knows about this band or they got denied visa.. doubt you will find any American who gives 2 hoots about it..

Posters here are so biased it's disgraceful and cringeworthy..

No it's actually very cringeworthy to see the lengths Indians like you will go to defend anything mother India does.

How on earth can you justify banning people because their parents were born next to a neighbouring country ?That's utterly ridiculous position and in fact shameful. Is that how you judge people ??

Oh I see it's because it's Pakistan so that makes it ok. No it doesn't sunshine.

It's a sham democracy and secular my foot. There are only a few countries that are truly secular and the majority of them are in Western Europe.

And no don't make such a ridiculous suggestion that UK and USA would ban people because their parents were born somewhere else. Trying to muddy the waters is not working so try harder.
 
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Post 19,although this probably would be the reason but official reason has not been given,also don't Pakistanis directly get visa for medical treatment in India?IIRC there was a news 2 weeks ago on the same.

Also if you notice this line:
travelers who disclose a family connection with Pakistan triggers demands for extra information and a long processing period, which can make travel to India impossible. ,

says it was going to take extra time for getting the visa,do you blame India for being careful after Headingly issue?

Stop being logical, look at the replies, don't expect similar kind of reply from emotional people.
 
Stop being logical, look at the replies, don't expect similar kind of reply from emotional people.

Yes cause denying entry to a couple of twenty-something girls who are professional music artists and have performed in India before, because of their heritage is totally logically. It's India's Pakophobia that is illogical.
 
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It's pretty clear which nation is acting in peace. Pakistan invited India to CPEC while they backstab us. So sad and unfair.
 
No it's actually very cringeworthy to see the lengths Indians like you will go to defend anything mother India does.

How on earth can you justify banning people because their parents were born next to a neighbouring country ?That's utterly ridiculous position and in fact shameful. Is that how you judge people ??

Oh I see it's because it's Pakistan so that makes it ok. No it doesn't sunshine.

It's a sham democracy and secular my foot. There are only a few countries that are truly secular and the majority of them are in Western Europe.

And no don't make such a ridiculous suggestion that UK and USA would ban people because their parents were born somewhere else. Trying to muddy the waters is not working so try harder.

Nope it's cringeworthy that you jump on every topic and try and use big terms like undemocratic and unsecular without even knowing if it is applicable in this case or not..

When did I say they should have been denied visa? They were denied visa because of let's assume what the post says is correct their pakistani heritage, but that does not make any country undemocratic or unsecular.. You need need to read up th definition of the two words first and then use them..

Not even defending the action here but laughing at you for using terms which do not fit this discussion.. At most the issue was really petty and should have been avoided they could have been granted minimum duration visa for the festival.. However it's the right of the host country to allow or deny visa's.. Your so called democratic Western European countries deny visa regularly to Indians on basis of various reasons including fear of Indians settling there and marrying for green card not having a proper job back at home etc etc doesn't make them undemocratic does it? They look at their own interests first.. Similarly the country here denied visa to look after its own interest of keeping the policy of not having anything to do with Pakistan(with a tad bit of hypocrisy here) and denied visa.. Get over it and stop whining such is life it happens everywhere..
 
Yes cause denying entry to a couple of twenty-something girls who are professional music artists and have performed in India before, because of their heritage is totally logically. It's India's Pakophobia that is illogical.



12 year old kids have been brainwashed by your mullahs into suicide bombings.. in today's world nothing is illogical you just never know what is what my friend..
 
Cause EDM artists are terrorists looooooooool

Actually post#66 is hugely logical. This band was brainwashed by some mullah in rural areas. ISI eventually recruited them and had them play the role of a fake band. They have been faking it all long. Thanks to the tremendous and fantastic efforts of RAW, their plot was foiled before they could get India. One can make a 2 hour Bollywood movie with that logic.
 
I know many Indian's who have wanted to see Pakistan or visit their ancestral homes being denied visa's. If Bollywood movies are being shown in Pak cinema's then many Pakistanis are challenging them, they could very well be banned again. Don't think "Dangal" will be shown and rightly so. Pak should pay India back with the same coin.

Yes that will hurt them so much.
 
I wonder if Usman Khwaja will have problems with his visa as he was actually born in Pakistan and has previously had issues.

These girls are not Pakistani they are amercian and should be treated as such.
 
I wonder if Usman Khwaja will have problems with his visa as he was actually born in Pakistan and has previously had issues.

These girls are not Pakistani they are amercian and should be treated as such.

Visa clearance depends a lot on the purpose of visit and the organizations involved. ICC members have never had any problems regarding this, latest example being Adil Rashid.
 
I wonder if Usman Khwaja will have problems with his visa as he was actually born in Pakistan and has previously had issues.

These girls are not Pakistani they are amercian and should be treated as such.

This actually happened, Usman was denied a visa a few years back and he even tweeted that he was only rejected a visa cause he was born in Pakistan despite being an Aussie citizen.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket...n-visa-for-t20-tournament-20110809-1ikz4.html
 
Yes cause denying entry to a couple of twenty-something girls who are professional music artists and have performed in India before, because of their heritage is totally logically. It's India's Pakophobia that is illogical.
Look at the above replies, You can see disappointment, frustration and anger. Pakistan cancelled kumar sanu's show few weeks before after making all the arrangements I didn't see any Indian reacting like you guys.If there is pakophobia, like one poster mentioned above why India is issuing hundreds of visas to Pakistanis for medical treatment every year.
 
I wonder if Usman Khwaja will have problems with his visa as he was actually born in Pakistan and has previously had issues.

These girls are not Pakistani they are amercian and should be treated as such.

Mooen Ali and Adil rashid were in india for more than one month and will return for odi series.
 
Look at the above replies, You can see disappointment, frustration and anger. Pakistan cancelled kumar sanu's show few weeks before after making all the arrangements I didn't see any Indian reacting like you guys.If there is pakophobia, like one poster mentioned above why India is issuing hundreds of visas to Pakistanis for medical treatment every year.
Cause we spend millions of dollars benefiting your healthcare industry!
 
Never heard of them.

Having watched their videos, I wonder if they'd be allowed into Pakistan either :moali
 
This is sad. :(

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Due to unforeseen complications, we will not be playing <a href="https://twitter.com/SunburnFestival">@SunburnFestival</a> :(<br>We are working to make it up to you guys as soon as possible! <a href="https://t.co/m76FId6WIA">pic.twitter.com/m76FId6WIA</a></p>— KREWELLA (@Krewella) <a href="https://twitter.com/Krewella/status/813459995228446720">December 26, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Cause we spend millions of dollars benefiting your healthcare industry!

If they had millions of dollars to spend, they would go to Western countries, like your prime Minister, not coming to enemy nation for their treatment.

And you will find numerous stories like the one below where locals raised money for the patient when their family couldn't afford the treatment.


http://www.dawn.com/news/1212816
 
Actually post#66 is hugely logical. This band was brainwashed by some mullah in rural areas. ISI eventually recruited them and had them play the role of a fake band. They have been faking it all long. Thanks to the tremendous and fantastic efforts of RAW, their plot was foiled before they could get India. One can make a 2 hour Bollywood movie with that logic.

Cause EDM artists are terrorists looooooooool

You failed to understand let me break it down in simple points:

1. India and Pakistan relations are at there lowest.
2. On paper India has a total boycott policy against Pakistan.
3. These artists have Pakistani heritage.
4. In past an American citizen with Pakistani roots has been responsible for one of the deadliest terror attacks.. No one suspected him ever..
5. this group is relatively unknown and no one would really miss them the guys at the embassy probably didn't even know who they are when rejecting their visas.. Rejecting their visa would not result in loss of revenue for the country as there are bigger names performing at sunburn..
6. Visas get rejected everyday by every country it's not even worth a news story..

Again rejecting their visa was a petty thing to do due to the reason given but it happens all the time.. Just need to move over it and not crib and whine about it like something huge has happened..
 
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