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Why are Indians risking it all to chase the American Dream?
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They may remain 4th largest economy (due to quantity over quality) but their living standard is worse than Estonia's. 
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I disagree.In October, US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) sent a chartered flight carrying Indian nationals back home, marking a growing trend in deportations to India.
This was no ordinary flight - it was one of multiple large-scale “removal flights” carried out this year, each typically carrying more than 100 passengers. The flights were returning groups of Indian migrants who "did not establish a legal basis to remain in the US".
According to US officials, the latest flight carrying adult men and women was routed to Punjab, close to many deportees' places of origin. No precise breakdown of hometowns was provided.
In the US fiscal year 2024 which ended in September, more than 1,000 Indian nationals had been repatriated by charter and commercial flights, according to Royce Bernstein Murray, assistant secretary at the US Department of Homeland Security.
“That has been part of a steady increase in removals from the US of Indian nationals over the past few years, which corresponds with a general increase in encounters that we have seen with Indian nationals in the last few years as well,” Ms Murray told a media briefing. (Encounters refer to instances where non-citizens are stopped by US authorities while attempting to cross the country’s borders with Mexico or Canada.)
For one, the migrants are not from the lowest economic strata. But they cannot secure tourist or student visas to the US, often due to lower education or English proficiency.
Instead, they rely on agencies charging up to $100,000 (£79,000), sometimes using long and arduous routes designed to dodge border controls. To afford this, many sell farms or take out loans. Not surprisingly, data from the US immigration courts in 2024 reveals that the majority of Indian migrants were male, aged 18-34.
Second, Canada on the northern border has become a more accessible entry point for Indians, with a visitor visa processing time of 76 days (compared to up to a year for a US visa in India).
The Swanton Sector - covering the states of Vermont and counties in New York and New Hampshire - has experienced a sudden surge in encounters with Indian nationals since early this year, peaking at 2,715 in June, the researchers found.
Earlier, most irregular Indian migrants entered the Americas through the busier southern border with Mexico via El Salvador or Nicaragua, both of which facilitated migration. Until November last year, Indian nationals enjoyed visa-free travel to El Salvador.
Why more Indians are crossing borders illegally to enter the US
A surge in illegal border crossings by Indians into the US has left many puzzled -what’s going on?www.bbc.co.uk
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Growing up in the UK, I grew up with a lot of Indians, Sikhs, Hindus etc but all were born and raised in the UK, in the same town as me.
Now I often bump into Indians who cant speak English, live in small places and dont seem very confident. A few seem to be illegals but of course I cant confirm this, apart from one who openly stated he is.
We often here its illegals in India but it seems millions are living illegally abroad. Why is this ?
Also..have you met any Illegal Indians in your native country ? Of course if you are one and reading this , it doesnt count.
The cult are chasing the Islamic dream - just look at the cult numbers flocking to the Middle East!
Indians ruled by a stick and carrot in an Islamic world but worth it cos Islam provides more solace and peace compared to the death cult Hindutva.
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Two Indian Chemical Companies and a Senior Executive Indicted for Distributing Fentanyl Precursor Chemicals
Two Indian Chemical Companies and a Senior Executive Indicted for Distributing Fentanyl Precursor Chemicals
BROOKLYN, NY - Earlier today, at the federal courthouse in Brooklyn, two indictments were unsealed charging India-based companies Raxuter Chemicals and Athos Chemicals Pvt. Ltd. (Athos Chemicals) and Bhavesh Lathiya, a founder and senior executive of Raxuter Chemicals, with criminal conspiracies...
Defendants Allegedly Smuggled Fentanyl Precursor Chemicals from India to the United States Knowing They Would Be Used to Manufacture Fentanyl
BROOKLYN, NY - Earlier today, at the federal courthouse in Brooklyn, two indictments were unsealed charging India-based companies Raxuter Chemicals and Athos Chemicals Pvt. Ltd. (Athos Chemicals) and Bhavesh Lathiya, a founder and senior executive of Raxuter Chemicals, with criminal conspiracies to distribute and import fentanyl precursor chemicals to the United States. Lathiya was arrested on January 4, 2025 in New York City and arraigned before United States Magistrate Judge Joseph A. Marutollo. Lathiya was ordered detained pending trial.
Breon Peace, United States Attorney for the Eastern District of New York, Merrick B. Garland, United States Attorney General and Alejandro N. Mayorkas, Department of Homeland Security Secretary, announced the arrest and indictments.
“Our efforts to disrupt the global fentanyl supply chain are being fought on many fronts, and as alleged in these indictments, by charging two chemical companies based in India and a company executive with knowingly distributing the chemical building blocks of fentanyl,” stated United States Attorney Peace. “My Office will vigorously prosecute those pushers of poison, here and abroad, who are responsible for fueling our nation’s opioid epidemic without any regard for the extreme harm they are causing.”
Mr. Peace thanked the Justice Department’s Office of International Affairs, Homeland Security Investigations, New York and United States Customs and Border Protection, New York Field Office, for their invaluable assistance.
“The Justice Department is targeting every link in fentanyl trafficking supply chains that span countries and continents and too often end in tragedy in the United States,” stated Attorney General Garland. “We allege these companies, and a company founder and senior executive who is now in custody, conspired to distribute and import fentanyl precursor chemicals from India to the United States and Mexico. We made a promise that the Justice Department would never forget the victims of the fentanyl epidemic, and that we would never stop working to hold accountable those who bear responsibility for it — that is what we have done, and that is what we will continue to do.”
“Much of our nation’s illicit fentanyl crisis can be traced to bad actors overseas who knowingly and illegally traffic precursor chemicals to North America, where cartels refine them into deadly narcotics and wreak immeasurable heartbreak and destruction on so many American communities,” stated DHS Secretary Mayorkas. “The Department of Homeland Security, alongside our federal partners, will continue to take the fight against fentanyl directly to alleged foreign precursor chemical exporters like the companies and the individual indicted today – because the best way to stop illicit fentanyl from killing Americans and devastating communities is by preventing it from being manufactured in the first place.”
Fentanyl, a Schedule II controlled substance, is the deadliest drug threat currently facing the United States. It is a highly addictive synthetic opioid that is approximately 50 times more potent than heroin and 100 times more potent than morphine. Fentanyl is designated as a Schedule II controlled substance while various precursors that can be used to produce fentanyl are included on the controlled substance schedules List I and List II.
Raxuter Chemicals and Lathiya are charged with conspiracy to distribute and import a listed chemical, distribution and importation of a listed chemical knowing it would be used to manufacture fentanyl, smuggling and other related offenses. Athos Chemicals is charged with similar offenses, including conspiracy to distribute and import a listed chemical and distribution and importation of a listed chemical.
As alleged in the indictments and court filings, the defendants supplied precursor chemicals to the United States and Mexico, among other places, knowing they would be used to manufacture fentanyl. They also sent their chemical products to the United States and Mexico using international mail and package carriers. The chemicals distributed by the defendants included all the materials necessary to manufacture fentanyl via the most common methods or pathways. To prevent detection and interception of chemical products at the borders, the defendants employed deceptive and fraudulent practices, such as mislabeling packages, falsifying customs forms, and making false declarations at border crossings.
For example, on or about June 29, 2024, a package shipped by Raxuter Chemicals was delivered to an address in the Eastern District of New York. The package had a false manifest that listed its contents as Vitamin C. In truth, the contents were a List I chemical, 1-boc-4-piperidone, an unlawfully imported fentanyl precursor.
On or about October 2, 2024 and October 15, 2024, Lathiya appeared on a video call to discuss sale of fentanyl precursor chemicals with an HSI undercover officer. After being told by the undercover officer that his “clients in Mexico were very happy with the quality of what you sent me” and with “the yield they got of the final product,” Lathiya agreed to sell 20 kilograms 1-boc-4-piperidone, which is a List I chemical used in fentanyl synthesis. Lathiya also proposed mislabeling the chemical as an antacid. The undercover officer replied and asked if it would be easier to ship the product to Mexico, stating “This is a very controversial product … Because like you said it’s banned and in Mexico I think it could be easier but there’s so much pressure on them because of fentanyl.” On or about November 23, 2024, Raxuter Chemicals and Lathiya shipped approximately 20 kilograms of 1-boc-4-piperidone to the Eastern District of New York. The package was mislabeled as an antacid.
In addition, on or about February 20, 2024, Athos Chemicals agreed to sell 100 kilograms of 1-boc-4-piperidone to a known drug trafficker in Mexico who was making fentanyl in association with a drug trafficking organization.
Mexican drug trafficking organizations, including but not limited to the Sinaloa Cartel, have increasingly availed themselves of the fentanyl precursors developed and distributed by companies like the defendants. The chemicals provided by the defendant companies have enabled such cartels and other drug trafficking organizations to produce fentanyl in clandestine laboratories in Mexico on a massive scale for subsequent distribution in the United States and elsewhere.
The charges in the indictments are allegations, and the defendants are presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty. If convicted of all the charges, Lathiya faces up to 53 years in prison.
The government’s case is being handled by the Office’s International Narcotics and Money Laundering Section. Assistant United States Attorneys Adam Amir, William P. Campos and Chand Edwards-Balfour are in charge of the prosecution with the assistance of Paralegal Specialist Samuel Ronchetti.
The Defendants:
BHAVESH ranCHHODBHAI LATHIYA (also known as “Bhavesh Patel” and “Bhavesh Bhai”)
Age: 36
Surat, Gujarat, India
RAXUTER CHEMICALS
Surat, Gujarat, India
E.D.N.Y. Docket No. 24-CR-525 (PKC)
ATHOS CHEMICALS PVT. LTD.
Surat, Gujarat, India
E.D.N.Y. Docket No. 24-CR-526 (RPK)
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow indians distrubuting Fentanyl - how classy you lot are - surprised you didnt blame the chinese,
@Rajdeep @sweep_shot @The Bald Eagle @the Great Khan @Cpt. Rishwat @Theanonymousone @Vikram1989 @Devadwal @JaDed @uppercut @Champ_Pal @RexRex @Local.Dada @LordJames @KingKhanWC @HalBass9 - your thoughts - a lot of these drug dealers happen to be indian - not a coincidence
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Two Indian Chemical Companies and a Senior Executive Indicted for Distributing Fentanyl Precursor Chemicals
Two Indian Chemical Companies and a Senior Executive Indicted for Distributing Fentanyl Precursor Chemicals
BROOKLYN, NY - Earlier today, at the federal courthouse in Brooklyn, two indictments were unsealed charging India-based companies Raxuter Chemicals and Athos Chemicals Pvt. Ltd. (Athos Chemicals) and Bhavesh Lathiya, a founder and senior executive of Raxuter Chemicals, with criminal conspiracies...www.justice.gov
Defendants Allegedly Smuggled Fentanyl Precursor Chemicals from India to the United States Knowing They Would Be Used to Manufacture Fentanyl
BROOKLYN, NY - Earlier today, at the federal courthouse in Brooklyn, two indictments were unsealed charging India-based companies Raxuter Chemicals and Athos Chemicals Pvt. Ltd. (Athos Chemicals) and Bhavesh Lathiya, a founder and senior executive of Raxuter Chemicals, with criminal conspiracies to distribute and import fentanyl precursor chemicals to the United States. Lathiya was arrested on January 4, 2025 in New York City and arraigned before United States Magistrate Judge Joseph A. Marutollo. Lathiya was ordered detained pending trial.
Breon Peace, United States Attorney for the Eastern District of New York, Merrick B. Garland, United States Attorney General and Alejandro N. Mayorkas, Department of Homeland Security Secretary, announced the arrest and indictments.
“Our efforts to disrupt the global fentanyl supply chain are being fought on many fronts, and as alleged in these indictments, by charging two chemical companies based in India and a company executive with knowingly distributing the chemical building blocks of fentanyl,” stated United States Attorney Peace. “My Office will vigorously prosecute those pushers of poison, here and abroad, who are responsible for fueling our nation’s opioid epidemic without any regard for the extreme harm they are causing.”
Mr. Peace thanked the Justice Department’s Office of International Affairs, Homeland Security Investigations, New York and United States Customs and Border Protection, New York Field Office, for their invaluable assistance.
“The Justice Department is targeting every link in fentanyl trafficking supply chains that span countries and continents and too often end in tragedy in the United States,” stated Attorney General Garland. “We allege these companies, and a company founder and senior executive who is now in custody, conspired to distribute and import fentanyl precursor chemicals from India to the United States and Mexico. We made a promise that the Justice Department would never forget the victims of the fentanyl epidemic, and that we would never stop working to hold accountable those who bear responsibility for it — that is what we have done, and that is what we will continue to do.”
“Much of our nation’s illicit fentanyl crisis can be traced to bad actors overseas who knowingly and illegally traffic precursor chemicals to North America, where cartels refine them into deadly narcotics and wreak immeasurable heartbreak and destruction on so many American communities,” stated DHS Secretary Mayorkas. “The Department of Homeland Security, alongside our federal partners, will continue to take the fight against fentanyl directly to alleged foreign precursor chemical exporters like the companies and the individual indicted today – because the best way to stop illicit fentanyl from killing Americans and devastating communities is by preventing it from being manufactured in the first place.”
Fentanyl, a Schedule II controlled substance, is the deadliest drug threat currently facing the United States. It is a highly addictive synthetic opioid that is approximately 50 times more potent than heroin and 100 times more potent than morphine. Fentanyl is designated as a Schedule II controlled substance while various precursors that can be used to produce fentanyl are included on the controlled substance schedules List I and List II.
Raxuter Chemicals and Lathiya are charged with conspiracy to distribute and import a listed chemical, distribution and importation of a listed chemical knowing it would be used to manufacture fentanyl, smuggling and other related offenses. Athos Chemicals is charged with similar offenses, including conspiracy to distribute and import a listed chemical and distribution and importation of a listed chemical.
As alleged in the indictments and court filings, the defendants supplied precursor chemicals to the United States and Mexico, among other places, knowing they would be used to manufacture fentanyl. They also sent their chemical products to the United States and Mexico using international mail and package carriers. The chemicals distributed by the defendants included all the materials necessary to manufacture fentanyl via the most common methods or pathways. To prevent detection and interception of chemical products at the borders, the defendants employed deceptive and fraudulent practices, such as mislabeling packages, falsifying customs forms, and making false declarations at border crossings.
For example, on or about June 29, 2024, a package shipped by Raxuter Chemicals was delivered to an address in the Eastern District of New York. The package had a false manifest that listed its contents as Vitamin C. In truth, the contents were a List I chemical, 1-boc-4-piperidone, an unlawfully imported fentanyl precursor.
On or about October 2, 2024 and October 15, 2024, Lathiya appeared on a video call to discuss sale of fentanyl precursor chemicals with an HSI undercover officer. After being told by the undercover officer that his “clients in Mexico were very happy with the quality of what you sent me” and with “the yield they got of the final product,” Lathiya agreed to sell 20 kilograms 1-boc-4-piperidone, which is a List I chemical used in fentanyl synthesis. Lathiya also proposed mislabeling the chemical as an antacid. The undercover officer replied and asked if it would be easier to ship the product to Mexico, stating “This is a very controversial product … Because like you said it’s banned and in Mexico I think it could be easier but there’s so much pressure on them because of fentanyl.” On or about November 23, 2024, Raxuter Chemicals and Lathiya shipped approximately 20 kilograms of 1-boc-4-piperidone to the Eastern District of New York. The package was mislabeled as an antacid.
In addition, on or about February 20, 2024, Athos Chemicals agreed to sell 100 kilograms of 1-boc-4-piperidone to a known drug trafficker in Mexico who was making fentanyl in association with a drug trafficking organization.
Mexican drug trafficking organizations, including but not limited to the Sinaloa Cartel, have increasingly availed themselves of the fentanyl precursors developed and distributed by companies like the defendants. The chemicals provided by the defendant companies have enabled such cartels and other drug trafficking organizations to produce fentanyl in clandestine laboratories in Mexico on a massive scale for subsequent distribution in the United States and elsewhere.
The charges in the indictments are allegations, and the defendants are presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty. If convicted of all the charges, Lathiya faces up to 53 years in prison.
The government’s case is being handled by the Office’s International Narcotics and Money Laundering Section. Assistant United States Attorneys Adam Amir, William P. Campos and Chand Edwards-Balfour are in charge of the prosecution with the assistance of Paralegal Specialist Samuel Ronchetti.
The Defendants:
BHAVESH ranCHHODBHAI LATHIYA (also known as “Bhavesh Patel” and “Bhavesh Bhai”)
Age: 36
Surat, Gujarat, India
RAXUTER CHEMICALS
Surat, Gujarat, India
E.D.N.Y. Docket No. 24-CR-525 (PKC)
ATHOS CHEMICALS PVT. LTD.
Surat, Gujarat, India
E.D.N.Y. Docket No. 24-CR-526 (RPK)
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow indians distrubuting Fentanyl - how classy you lot are - surprised you didnt blame the chinese,
@Rajdeep @sweep_shot @The Bald Eagle @the Great Khan @Cpt. Rishwat @Theanonymousone @Vikram1989 @Devadwal @JaDed @uppercut @Champ_Pal @RexRex @Local.Dada @LordJames @KingKhanWC @HalBass9 - your thoughts - a lot of these drug dealers happen to be indian - not a coincidence
All Indian companies abroad should be heavily audited.
I have a feeling these two companies aren't the only ones.
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What an interesting thread, but filled with non- sequiturs, flame baits and one sided perspectives.
The fact is that India and Indians are obsessed with getting ahead; the desire to be better, do better. There’s very little chill with us.
The fact is that this has led to incredible achievements by Indians the world over, on an individual scale that’s matched by few nationalities.
The fact is that there are side -effects, the scams, the behaviour, but these are not the main story, however some posters here may try to make it.
And yes, Indians traveling abroad can come across as cringeworthy, out behaviours pretty bad, but then that is a cultural phenomenon. Chinese tourists are as bad.
The fact is that India and Indians are obsessed with getting ahead; the desire to be better, do better. There’s very little chill with us.
The fact is that this has led to incredible achievements by Indians the world over, on an individual scale that’s matched by few nationalities.
The fact is that there are side -effects, the scams, the behaviour, but these are not the main story, however some posters here may try to make it.
And yes, Indians traveling abroad can come across as cringeworthy, out behaviours pretty bad, but then that is a cultural phenomenon. Chinese tourists are as bad.
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A better question would be, if Indians are so talented, why does India look like a third world dump and they have to brag about incredible achievements abroad?
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A better question would be, if Indians are so talented, why does India look like a third world dump and they have to brag about incredible achievements abroad?
What he said has nothing to do with what you've said.
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I literally bolded the part I wanted to expand on. At least I didn't leave out the bits I didn't like as you have a habit of doing.
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The part you bolded is about what Indian immigrants do abroad which has nothing to do with why India is a third world dump.
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Why does it need to be? India being a third world dump is highly relevant to why Indians are chasing the American dream. Check the thread title.
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A better question would be, if Indians are so talented, why does India look like a third world dump and they have to brag about incredible achievements abroad?
Because India is incredible in many places and because we have accomplished incredible things the world over.
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Fair enough. But I doubt it is a question asked in good faith given that you mention it in pretty much every thread involving India.
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Do you really think if India was so incredible then Indians would be chasing the American dream? I appreciate the patriotism, but what would you think if I said Pakistan is incredible in many places and they have accomplished incredible things the world over?
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It isn’t patriotism. Two contradictory things can exist simultaneously.
For example: I know for a fact that U.S. kids are some of most unaware in the world, some of them don’t know where the next state is, far less the bordering nation. Many Americans are astonishingly ignorant But at the same time the U.S. is at the cutting edge of R&D in many fields, pushing the boundaries of what we know. So both can be true.
If you said that about Pakistan I’d wait for you to showcase the accomplishments of Pakistanis, to make your case. I certainly won’t reject it. In fact I would even give examples to partly support that
For example, from the pictures I’ve seen many parts of Pakistan are astonishingly beautiful. I know Pakistani music has its own niche abroad and Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan quite the following. At the risk of getting political Imran Khan is a globally recognised, dare I say admired person. Among others
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If we dig up the articles, Pakistani illegal migration will trump Indian migration.
Pakistan’s legal migration itself is 1.4M in 2024, while India is half of it. Imagine the illegal migration from Pakistan.
Leave the poor people, Pakistani Airlines crew are notorious for illegally escaping into Canada. What’ the point you are making dude? @finalfantasy7
You cannot atleast make a coherent argument but resort to spamming with old articles in irrelevant threads. Too weak cope mechanism I would say!
Pakistan’s legal migration itself is 1.4M in 2024, while India is half of it. Imagine the illegal migration from Pakistan.
Leave the poor people, Pakistani Airlines crew are notorious for illegally escaping into Canada. What’ the point you are making dude? @finalfantasy7
You cannot atleast make a coherent argument but resort to spamming with old articles in irrelevant threads. Too weak cope mechanism I would say!
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What you are saying isn't wrong, but I am not really talking about outliers. I am discussing in context of the thread. I'm sure India is wonderful, but the traffic is more towards the USA and other western countries than the other way round.
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Tragic.
Many groups are angry at Indians because of how they behave. They have snobbish attitudes, they engage in unethical activities, they are taking over jobs due to big numbers etc.
Innocent Indians sadly may get caught in crossfire.
Indians have to become humble and ethical if they want to reduce tensions with other communities.
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Part time shifts are common among Master students from India.. honestly he was just trying to get that for daily expenses waiting for his masters to complete ..
This along with the guy who was beheaded are sad instances that happened in TX..for chasing American dream.
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That’s same with China, and let me me put it out there China is way ahead of India and still..
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Yes but I am not seeing any Chinese posters popping up in these forums telling me how fantastic China is while living in the USA.
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The Pakistani posters do that though your fav FinalFantasy dude has been harping about China for last 1 week
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lmao yes he is born and brought up in UK..
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Yes but are the indians (Kochi) who take these jobs - do the complete the job better than others, like i work in payroll - 3rd party contract for a massive Uk based company whihc is technically own by a american copany, i was at this company just before it started to lay off Uk workers for indians, we were told that the indians wre qualified and had a similar pay structure (by law to the UK),
its been around 4yrs and we've lost over 90% of workers from UK side, but employed more indians then we lost - however till the day we are not told the amount of indians who work on the same contract - all we know is that the indians are alot cheaper - we've had to create basically a idiots guide to complete each section - honestly pictures with arrown for each step on how to complete every part of our role - explaining everything in 7yrs old english - these have been signed off my our managers to make sure its all factual - these files have been stored on kochi side - basically both sides go into p drive but we then go into onshore folder (as we work onsite) - kochi lot go into offshore - these files we have created are only store dinto offshore - as not many folders in both onshore and offshore.
We also have to train them over teams - whre they can see us but we cant see them - just hear them - everyone on my side weve trained them in seperate grous - now we have some names of thr kochi lot - but we kow they have numerous of other employees who are not listed - as over the phone calla nd how the indians talk via team to us - they've mentioned names which are not located in our group chats.
Till this day, kochi lot constantly mess up, to the point its common for them to mess up so bad - regarding escalation cases to add additional info to pay basically maternity as what was initially submitted by the manager that inf was outdated - we freeze the system midddle f the month to create every payslip - we the unfreeze the system 5 days before pay day to then work on these escalation cases to make sure thr paid - very lasted 3 days after payday - due to the amount of cases what can coe over --- kochi lot will try do do the re-calcultion payslip mess it up - as each payslip is checked by another agent before its released to catch any mistakes - 2nd agent on thr end will notices a mistae - both dont know how to fx it - rather than speaking to thr manager (who's utterley useless) they'll leave it deliberatey and not even contact us, they then sneakily put than employees case re int the main section where we go into to pick them to work them, once you enter the employees account - it will save details - so your tracked basically.
Every month we get major exploited cases - maternity cases not been paid as 2nd agent whos passed the case doesnt know what thr doing, thrs never any investigation into them - as same people are still with the company - not like the mess up a few times, our pass rate used to be 97.5% - since kochi have taken over - we've never hit over 82.5% per month - our side has made a few errors but its always been caught by the 2nd agent before its released for pay.
Once a year, our contact ,manager gets to visit kochi - we've had 3 different managers in 4 yrs due to our manager compalaining about kochi, when they visit kochi, they say its a massive building - thr reception area is bigger than our whole building before kochi was involved, the managers have all stated that kochi pretend to corden part of thr building off to so called other companies by sticking up pieces of paper stating another company name in Hindi - suposedly doing another section - not payroll, but when the indians talk - they have to use certain english words which gives it away thr doing payroll on Our contract.
I've never experienced anyone from any company who states since indians been taking jobs from the wes - that any sector has been better, another examle here in the UK they employe massive of nhs workers from migration - but statistically around 60-75% off sacked UK doctors are either british indian or indian migration - due to the massive errors. Compare that to the Nigerians - again loads have been brought over for the NHS and they are outstanding - best of the best, even the pakistani doctors are better than the indians - as everyone says this = when the indians work together thr great - but when they have to work by themself - huge basic errors - constantly occur - then they make a threat
UK I.T was great in 2000's my eldest bro works for a massive construction company who have been bought out by the chinese - think theyve changed thr name now (Basically was the worlds biggest contruction company 10yrs ago held that title for like 35yrs), - hes really high up for them in I.T section for them, he telling me that the indians cant do the basic stuff what an apprentice should be doing. The chinese owners want to change the indians but cant
All UK contact centres who transferred to indian - are terrible, no one can list me a cntact centre who transferred over which has a good customer service score, e.g. Virgin media main customer service was based in same city i live in - they were a very good company - averaging around 4/5 stars - now look at trust pilot score since moving to india = https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.virginmedia.com
Look what the americans are saying, just look at sillicon valley - all those companies have decreased in terms of quality - massively - even google maps is slow and send you the wrong way consistantly now, when the americans hired the chinese before you - funny how the stats show the companies all were at thr very best in terms of efficency and quality of service - but they made less - so they hired you indians
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Its not all indians are bad - but A LOT of you do lack common sense - even the born in england, both have attitute and back stabbing problems,
Most people do believe you dont improve these companies you work for - you thr just to reduce salaries for the current employees, as we have all noticed - our wages dont icnrease to what they used to do - since hiring indians - honestly our wage increase doesnt even improve by £0.50 per hour per yr = which in dollars is $0.67
As our bosses state jobs can now be completed obroard - thus you indians can be employed for cheaper rate = without matching our workload.
Not me who says this, look at aussie, whole of europe / canada/ usa = all have noticed your company are run really poorly - you steal processes for each department and then feed it back home to your own businesses who cant run anything = considering india has barely improved..... wow you've opened another data centre - block full of them - but you cant do run it ..... massively lagging behind, you have what... 70% of the coding jobs in siilicon valley - but your indians firms are really poor at coding still.
Your now taking the lorry driver jobs in USA - reduced the salary - hence thr getting rid of the american, only employing you lot - who are mainly illegals (pretended to be pakistani to enter US, and every country in the world) to do this:
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which means what exactly - that i cant compare people from different countries, on how they work / behave
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Inside the Illegal 'Dunki' Route Migrants Take From India To The US | Undercover Asia
‘Dunki’, from the Punjabi word for ‘to hop’, has become shorthand for a vast underground migration route stitched across continents. From villages in India through the jungles of Latin America, it is a journey of stopovers, bribes, and dangerous border crossings, all aimed at one final destination: the United States or Europe.For those attempting the route, the stakes are brutal. Families mortgage land to pay agents. Migrants are packed into boats, ferried across crocodile-infested rivers, and pushed through forests controlled by armed gangs. Extortion, violence, and exploitation mark every step, and for many, the journey ends in death, deportation, or prison.This film uncovers how the ‘dunki’ network operates, and the cat-and-mouse game between agents who profit from keeping the routes running and the authorities who try to crack down.But as borders harden, the demand only grows, revealing the true cost of chasing the American dream.
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Wow!
Why didn't they stay in NUMBER ONE INDIA (alleged 4th largest economy)? This is very embarrasing.
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Not just US. Other countries are getting tired too.
Maybe they should learn not to be obnoxious.
What puzzles me haven't the indians overtaken japan and Germany?
Yet why are so many indians fleeing abroad to work in petrol stations ?
Can anyone explain, if it was pakistanis or afghans or even Africans one can understand they are fleeing poverty and violence but what's going on with the superpower of asia.
Yet why are so many indians fleeing abroad to work in petrol stations ?
Can anyone explain, if it was pakistanis or afghans or even Africans one can understand they are fleeing poverty and violence but what's going on with the superpower of asia.
Why is it puzzling? India has massive poverty issue due to huge population. Though India has surpassed Japan and Germany in GDP but much less in per capita income.
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I dont see chinese flocking enmasse to other countries and working menial jobs
Even in russia there's cases of indians trafficked and ended up on ukranian frontlines .
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China has 5X percapita income compared to India. So, there is no comparison.
And more than money, its a matter of pride in some regions. People pay huge sum of money (70-100k$) to travel through illegal routes. Anyone with that kind of money in India is certainly not poor. Its more of societal pressure in regions like Punjab and Haryana which have most of the migration through non-H1B / non-educational visa route.
And regarding that Russia / other countries trafficking - A little background to that is there are trading companies in UP, Bihar, etc who specialize in labor resources. They typically bring labor to Southern states on manual jobs and become trustworthy over time in some regions. They trap unsuspecting individuals for job promises in foreign nations and they only realize these things once they travel there. Many such cases were there even in Kerala too among people who travelled to middle-east and were made to do harsh labor. Its a pity that how humans turn on each-other just for few bucks.
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I love it when sanghis panic.
Maybe they should just stay in NUMBER ONE INDIA.
I am surprised when the same ones are posting negatively about Muslims praying publicly in Nordic countries, that they don't understand why MAGA movement would feel the same way about their proud white Christian nation getting polluted by Indian infestation.
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They have already started to feel the same way about Indians.
Indians are starting to get hated because too many of them are coming in and many of them are very obnoxious/unethical.
Just check comments on Twitter, YouTube, Facebook etc.
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Indians, The Third Largest Group Of Illegal Immigrants, Add To Border Crisis
Indians, The Third Largest Group Of Illegal Immigrants, Add To Border Crisis
What drives people to leave their homes, hand over life savings to a smuggler, and attempt a perilous journey to live in the West?
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What drives people to leave their homes, hand over life savings to a smuggler, and attempt a perilous journey for a chance to live in the West?
Indian immigrants head for the border
Jagdish and Vaishaliben Patel left their home in Dingucha, Gujarat, for Canada, without telling a soul. They arrived in Toronto on January 12, 2022. Tragically, about a week later, their bodies were found 13 yards from the US border. They had frozen to death trying to cross into the U.S. on foot with their young children Vihangi, 11, and Dharmik, 3.The Patels likely traveled by road to the US border before attempting the illegal border crossing by foot. The Canadian authorities describe them as victims of human trafficking.
Leaving a life of poverty, for a better life abroad
What drives the Patel family and thousands like them to leave their home and community, hand over life savings to a smuggler, and attempt a perilous journey halfway around the world for a chance to live in the West?Study in the UK, Canada, Free Application, Offer Letter In 3 Days.”
Flyers like these are posted all over small towns in the state of Gujarat where Jagdish and Vaishaliben Patel lived.
According to reports, Jagdish Patel worked in a factory but was struggling to make ends meet. He wanted a better life and education for his kids and felt he could never achieve that in India.
“There’s definitely a dominant image of South Asians in the U.S. as coming on student visas or work visas, finding education and employment, oftentimes in white-collar positions,” says Pawan Dhingra Professor and Associate Dean of the Faculty at Amherst College.
But that does not paint a complete picture of working-class Indians. The success stories of Indians in America propels even working-class Indians to take this treacherous journey halfway across the world in the hope of a better future for their families.
“People will get you to, let’s say, the Middle East, or people will get you to Europe,” Muzaffar Chishti, a lawyer and the director of non-partisan research group Migration Policy Institute’s New York office. “The next journey from there would be to Africa. If not Africa, maybe then to South America. Then the next person will get you from South America to the south of Mexico. Then from the south of Mexico to the northern cities of Mexico, and then the next person will get you over to the U.S.”
Unauthorized
A record 96,917 Indians were apprehended entering the United States without authorization between October 2022 to September 2023. That number has been increasing every year – with 30,662 encountered in the 2021 fiscal year and 63,927 in the 2022 fiscal year.Out of the nearly 97,000 encounters in 2023, 30,010 were at the Canadian border and 41,770 at the Southern border. What is significant to recognize is that these numbers only represent those who were caught. The actual numbers are likely much higher.
Unauthorized immigrants living in the U.S. come from many parts of the world, with Mexico being the most common origin country. While the number of unauthorized immigrants from Mexico has declined since 2017, the total number of unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. from countries other than Mexico has grown rapidly.
After Mexico, the largest unauthorized immigrant populations in the U.S. in 2021 came from El Salvador, India, Guatemala, and Honduras.
According to the Pew Research Center, around 725,000 Indians currently live illegally in the US, making them the third largest illegal immigrant population.
Migration has fundamentally changed
“Migration has changed so fundamentally in the 30 years I’ve been doing this work,” said Angela Kelley, Chief Advisor for the American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA).Speaking at a Feb. 2 EMS briefing, “Border Crisis: What are the Policy Options Given the Polarized Politics” Kelley explained that the close to 10,000 daily encounters at the border are the result of increasingly ferocious and effective smuggling networks.
More people are leaving four failed nation states – Cuba, Haiti, Venezuela and Nicaragua – for the U.S. A few years ago only 12% of the people at the border came from countries other than Mexico or Central America. “It’s now 52%,” said Kelley.
The influx of people puts a big strain on the immigration system, raising questions about how to process them, the kind of language support they need, and what kind of asylum cases they will present.
But what has changed are the demographics of the new migrants, said Kelley.
“It’s not young Mexican men coming to work. It’s women, it’s kids. Families. That is just dramatically different. So migration has changed.”
Inadequate US immigration policies
Kelley called US immigration policies grossly inadequate and unable to cope with the migrant influx. “The resources, the infrastructure to be able to manage people, to welcome them, to be able to provide for them – all gone,” she said. This severely impacts asylum seekers for example, whose cases have stalled in the system for over 7 years.“We have backlogs for people who applied for asylum that are 6, 7, 8 years long. Why is that important? Because if you are a legitimate asylum seeker, in 7 years, your case is gonna go stale. The witnesses won’t be there. You won’t be able to prove that you were really persecuted.”
Lack of immigration reform
A combination of factors is creating a perfect storm around the immigration process.“The lack of immigration reform is part of the reason why we’re here,” said Vanessa Cardenas, Executive Director of America’s Voice. “When you add the political layer to that of course, we are sort of in this very tenuous moment,”
“Not only is our system completely outdated, but again, there are regional pressures, global pressures that have changed the migration patterns,” explains Cardenas.
Climate change migration and COVID’s impact on economic instability have exacerbated the unprecedented migration from more countries, explains Cardenas. It’s the last piece of this changing migration pattern.
The politics of immigration
The immigration issue has become politicized in the U.S. as wrangling between both parties ensured the immigration bill was dead on arrival in the House.The administration wanted $12 billion to establish legal pathways and deterrents at the border. However, “The GOP has identified immigration as their silver bullet,” said Cardenas, not to find a solution to the problem, but to use it as an organizing tactic to mobilize their base. The Republicans have a much simpler sound bite, added Kelley. “Borders are out of control, Biden’s got open borders, everybody’s coming in – you know the ugly rhetoric.”
Biden came into office with a very progressive vision for immigration and implemented some important policy changes that don’t get the coverage it deserves, said Cardenas. She referred to the parole program as a model for what the future should look like in creating more legal pathways to meet the needs of the economy.
However, “The White House doesn’t talk enough about what they’ve done because the President, to be blunt, is not as comfortable with this issue,” added Kelley.
Cardenas reiterated that a progressive approach could ensure that people can actually come to the U.S. with a visa versus a smuggler.
“I think accelerating the process of work permits is another very good policy that we should be looking at. I think TPS again is another tool in the administration sort of toolbox that they can use” she added.
The U.S. immigration system is broken and smugglers publicize that to their advantage. Migrants are simply pawns caught in the middle, losing to both.
Rethinking immigration pathways
Immigration reform becomes imperative as people forced to flee war, climate change and political strife arrive in droves to the U.S., creating an impasse on domestic soil.Lupita Martinez the Regional Policy Advocate with the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights (CHIRLA) in Los Angeles says the migrant flow has completely upended the situation on the ground.
She is referring to the busloads of immigrants that governors of red states like Texas are sending to blue cities like New York, LA, Chicago, and Denver.
Organizations like CHIRA in coalition with other NGOs and the local government are scrambling to house the bussed immigrants. They have to provide medical attention, translation services, and wrap-around services like warm meals, housing, and mental health services to help migrants deal with their trauma.
The first bus that we received was on June 14, 2023. We are now on bus 39,” said Martinez.
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Indians, The Third Largest Group Of Illegal Immigrants, Add To Border Crisis
Indians, The Third Largest Group Of Illegal Immigrants, Add To Border Crisis
What drives people to leave their homes, hand over life savings to a smuggler, and attempt a perilous journey to live in the West?
What drives people to leave their homes, hand over life savings to a smuggler, and attempt a perilous journey for a chance to live in the West?
Indian immigrants head for the border
Jagdish and Vaishaliben Patel left their home in Dingucha, Gujarat, for Canada, without telling a soul. They arrived in Toronto on January 12, 2022. Tragically, about a week later, their bodies were found 13 yards from the US border. They had frozen to death trying to cross into the U.S. on foot with their young children Vihangi, 11, and Dharmik, 3.
The Patels likely traveled by road to the US border before attempting the illegal border crossing by foot. The Canadian authorities describe them as victims of human trafficking.
Leaving a life of poverty, for a better life abroad
What drives the Patel family and thousands like them to leave their home and community, hand over life savings to a smuggler, and attempt a perilous journey halfway around the world for a chance to live in the West?
Study in the UK, Canada, Free Application, Offer Letter In 3 Days.”
Flyers like these are posted all over small towns in the state of Gujarat where Jagdish and Vaishaliben Patel lived.
According to reports, Jagdish Patel worked in a factory but was struggling to make ends meet. He wanted a better life and education for his kids and felt he could never achieve that in India.
“There’s definitely a dominant image of South Asians in the U.S. as coming on student visas or work visas, finding education and employment, oftentimes in white-collar positions,” says Pawan Dhingra Professor and Associate Dean of the Faculty at Amherst College.
But that does not paint a complete picture of working-class Indians. The success stories of Indians in America propels even working-class Indians to take this treacherous journey halfway across the world in the hope of a better future for their families.
“People will get you to, let’s say, the Middle East, or people will get you to Europe,” Muzaffar Chishti, a lawyer and the director of non-partisan research group Migration Policy Institute’s New York office. “The next journey from there would be to Africa. If not Africa, maybe then to South America. Then the next person will get you from South America to the south of Mexico. Then from the south of Mexico to the northern cities of Mexico, and then the next person will get you over to the U.S.”
Unauthorized
A record 96,917 Indians were apprehended entering the United States without authorization between October 2022 to September 2023. That number has been increasing every year – with 30,662 encountered in the 2021 fiscal year and 63,927 in the 2022 fiscal year.
Out of the nearly 97,000 encounters in 2023, 30,010 were at the Canadian border and 41,770 at the Southern border. What is significant to recognize is that these numbers only represent those who were caught. The actual numbers are likely much higher.
Unauthorized immigrants living in the U.S. come from many parts of the world, with Mexico being the most common origin country. While the number of unauthorized immigrants from Mexico has declined since 2017, the total number of unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. from countries other than Mexico has grown rapidly.
After Mexico, the largest unauthorized immigrant populations in the U.S. in 2021 came from El Salvador, India, Guatemala, and Honduras.
According to the Pew Research Center, around 725,000 Indians currently live illegally in the US, making them the third largest illegal immigrant population.
Migration has fundamentally changed
“Migration has changed so fundamentally in the 30 years I’ve been doing this work,” said Angela Kelley, Chief Advisor for the American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA).
Speaking at a Feb. 2 EMS briefing, “Border Crisis: What are the Policy Options Given the Polarized Politics” Kelley explained that the close to 10,000 daily encounters at the border are the result of increasingly ferocious and effective smuggling networks.
More people are leaving four failed nation states – Cuba, Haiti, Venezuela and Nicaragua – for the U.S. A few years ago only 12% of the people at the border came from countries other than Mexico or Central America. “It’s now 52%,” said Kelley.
The influx of people puts a big strain on the immigration system, raising questions about how to process them, the kind of language support they need, and what kind of asylum cases they will present.
But what has changed are the demographics of the new migrants, said Kelley.
“It’s not young Mexican men coming to work. It’s women, it’s kids. Families. That is just dramatically different. So migration has changed.”
Inadequate US immigration policies
Kelley called US immigration policies grossly inadequate and unable to cope with the migrant influx. “The resources, the infrastructure to be able to manage people, to welcome them, to be able to provide for them – all gone,” she said. This severely impacts asylum seekers for example, whose cases have stalled in the system for over 7 years.
“We have backlogs for people who applied for asylum that are 6, 7, 8 years long. Why is that important? Because if you are a legitimate asylum seeker, in 7 years, your case is gonna go stale. The witnesses won’t be there. You won’t be able to prove that you were really persecuted.”
Lack of immigration reform
A combination of factors is creating a perfect storm around the immigration process.
“The lack of immigration reform is part of the reason why we’re here,” said Vanessa Cardenas, Executive Director of America’s Voice. “When you add the political layer to that of course, we are sort of in this very tenuous moment,”
“Not only is our system completely outdated, but again, there are regional pressures, global pressures that have changed the migration patterns,” explains Cardenas.
Climate change migration and COVID’s impact on economic instability have exacerbated the unprecedented migration from more countries, explains Cardenas. It’s the last piece of this changing migration pattern.
The politics of immigration
The immigration issue has become politicized in the U.S. as wrangling between both parties ensured the immigration bill was dead on arrival in the House.
The administration wanted $12 billion to establish legal pathways and deterrents at the border. However, “The GOP has identified immigration as their silver bullet,” said Cardenas, not to find a solution to the problem, but to use it as an organizing tactic to mobilize their base. The Republicans have a much simpler sound bite, added Kelley. “Borders are out of control, Biden’s got open borders, everybody’s coming in – you know the ugly rhetoric.”
Biden came into office with a very progressive vision for immigration and implemented some important policy changes that don’t get the coverage it deserves, said Cardenas. She referred to the parole program as a model for what the future should look like in creating more legal pathways to meet the needs of the economy.
However, “The White House doesn’t talk enough about what they’ve done because the President, to be blunt, is not as comfortable with this issue,” added Kelley.
Cardenas reiterated that a progressive approach could ensure that people can actually come to the U.S. with a visa versus a smuggler.
“I think accelerating the process of work permits is another very good policy that we should be looking at. I think TPS again is another tool in the administration sort of toolbox that they can use” she added.
The U.S. immigration system is broken and smugglers publicize that to their advantage. Migrants are simply pawns caught in the middle, losing to both.
Rethinking immigration pathways
Immigration reform becomes imperative as people forced to flee war, climate change and political strife arrive in droves to the U.S., creating an impasse on domestic soil.
Lupita Martinez the Regional Policy Advocate with the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights (CHIRLA) in Los Angeles says the migrant flow has completely upended the situation on the ground.
She is referring to the busloads of immigrants that governors of red states like Texas are sending to blue cities like New York, LA, Chicago, and Denver.
Organizations like CHIRA in coalition with other NGOs and the local government are scrambling to house the bussed immigrants. They have to provide medical attention, translation services, and wrap-around services like warm meals, housing, and mental health services to help migrants deal with their trauma.
The first bus that we received was on June 14, 2023. We are now on bus 39,” said Martinez.
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Yes. There are illegal Indians in North America. Lots of them.
I don't know why they go to other countries illegally. Why don't they stay in NUMBER ONE INDIA?
Canada also has lots of illegal Indians:
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Indians form third-largest illegal immigrant population in U.S.: Pew Research
Indians form third-largest illegal immigrant population in U.S.: Pew Research
Unauthorised immigrants in US from India, El Salvador, Central America, South and East Asia increased from 2007-2021, reaching 10.5 million in 2021. California, Texas, Florida, New York, New Jersey and Illinois had largest populations. Naturalised citizens accounted for 49% of all immigrants in US.
The report said India, Guatemala and Honduras all saw increases from 2017 with the unauthorised immigrant population in the U.S. reaching 10.5 million in 2021,
There are about 725,000 Indian illegal immigrants in the U.S. — the third largest population of unauthorised immigrants after Mexico and El Salvador — according to new Pew Research Centre estimates.
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Indians form third-largest illegal immigrant population in U.S.: Pew Research
Indians form third-largest illegal immigrant population in U.S.: Pew Research
Unauthorised immigrants in US from India, El Salvador, Central America, South and East Asia increased from 2007-2021, reaching 10.5 million in 2021. California, Texas, Florida, New York, New Jersey and Illinois had largest populations. Naturalised citizens accounted for 49% of all immigrants in US.www.thehindu.com
The report said India, Guatemala and Honduras all saw increases from 2017 with the unauthorised immigrant population in the U.S. reaching 10.5 million in 2021,
There are about 725,000 Indian illegal immigrants in the U.S. — the third largest population of unauthorised immigrants after Mexico and El Salvador — according to new Pew Research Centre estimates.
Yup. Wouldn't be surprised if the actual number is even higher.
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Has India’s caste system migrated to the US? - BBC News
Seattle has become the first city in the US to ban discrimination on the basis of caste.The city has a large South Asian population, many working in the technology sector.In the future, caste will be identified in its own class, alongside race, religion and gender identity.The caste system in India dates back over 3,000 years and divides Hindu society into rigid hierarchical groups.This can lead to discrimination and violence against those considered to be in the lowest classes – particularly the Dalit, or 'untouchables'.Kshama Sawant, the Seattle city councillor behind the legislation, and Pulitzer prize winning author Isabel Wilkerson, join Christian Fraser and his panel to put the new law into context
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Any Indian who tries to implement caste system in west should be deported back to NUMBER ONE INDIA.
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