Amid Taliban Crisis, PM Modi Says "Empires Of Terror" Temporary At Somnath Event

[MenInG]

New Delhi: Prime Minister Narendra Modi today said that destructive forces and people who follow the ideology of creating empires through terror can dominate for some time, but their existence is not permanent as they cannot suppress humanity forever.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi's remarks come in the wake of the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan.

PM Modi was speaking while virtually inaugurating a few projects of the famous Somnath temple in Gujarat.

"Somnath temple was destroyed many times, idols were desecrated many times and attempts were made to wipe out its existence. But it came up in its full glory after every destructive attack, which gives self-confidence to us," PM Modi said.

"Forces that strive for destruction and those who follow the ideology of creating empires out of terror can dominate for some time, but their existence is never permanent as they cannot suppress humanity forever," PM Narendra Modi added.

It was true when the Somnath temple was being destroyed in the past and it is true even today, the Prime Minister said.

PM Modi also said that India, which was at 65th position in 2013 in Travel and Tourism Competitiveness Index, jumped to 34th position in 2019.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ami...mnath-event-2514872#pfrom=home-ndtv_topscroll

 

[Bewal Express]

The fascist should explained to the poor of Ind why the $3bn had been wasted in Afghanistan when 800mn of them live on the breadline.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Did they find remains of a temple under the Taj Mahal yet? I am guessing that the Mughals and the British will also be seen as "Forces that strive for destruction" so there must be a fair bit of dismantling to do.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Look at this Muslim Killer hypocrit talking about "terror" and "empires". Indians should have hanged him for massacre of Muslims in Gujarat in 2002. Instead they made him their PM. This fact says a lot about India.

There are around a million Indian military personnel terrorising Indian occupied Kashmiris every day.

India tried to export their terrorism to Afghanistan but had to flee.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Some posters get triggered no matter what he says.

Its a fact that a lot of temples were destroyed.

There are no two ways about it.

In a way, i feel desis are very unidimensional.

Can only look at things from their point of view.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

The fascist should explained to the poor of Ind why the $3bn had been wasted in Afghanistan when 800mn of them live on the breadline.

One of the few good things he did.

Build good diplomatic relations with Afghanistan.

This is an age old argument and quite a weak one.

You know it.

 

[Bewal Express]

One of the few good things he did.

Build good diplomatic relations with Afghanistan.

This is an age old argument and quite a weak one.

You know it.

Why did Ind need good relations with Afghanistan? Well.we know why and that's the reason all the Rona dona in India.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Why did Ind need good relations with Afghanistan? Well.we know why and that's the reason all the Rona dona in India.

Relations so good their army of "diplomats" had to flee in the dark of the night

Meanwhile countries with real good relationship still have their embassies and people working inside Afghanistan.

 

[wajid]

This gives hope that current BJP/RSS thugs won’t rule forever. And the insanity in which Hindu nationalists find them today will also go away.

 

[Rajdeep]

Why did Ind need good relations with Afghanistan? Well.we know why and that's the reason all the Rona dona in India.

All the rona dhona in India is bcoz a bonafide terror outfit like Taliban will rule Afghanistan now which previously was ran by a relatively stable democratic govt. Maybe Taliban is not a big deal for Pakistanis but for the rest of the world they are simply militants. India has all the right to cry about such hostile surroundings.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

This gives hope that current BJP/RSS thugs won’t rule forever. And the insanity in which Hindu nationalists find them today will also go away.

BJP are preparing the next generation of RSS extremists. This cancer will keep on damaging India...

Speaking to reporters here, Basu said, “The BJP is trying to saffronise the education. If they have excluded Tagore’s story from syllabus, it shows their regressive mindset. Tagore is a secular personality as is evident from his works. The BJP is not comfortable with such ideologies. That’s why they are removing works of Tagore, Dr Radhakrishnan from school curriculum.”

-West Bengal Education Minister Bratya Basu

 

[Rajdeep]

This gives hope that current BJP/RSS thugs won’t rule forever. And the insanity in which Hindu nationalists find them today will also go away.

Its not only BJP/RSS...no political party in India will support Taliban. As insane as Hindu nationalists are, they are still better than rampaging Islamists.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Why did Ind need good relations with Afghanistan? Well.we know why and that's the reason all the Rona dona in India.

Yeah why does India need good relations with its neighbours and surroundings?

So that it doesnt get isolated.

China controls SL to an extent.

Bangladesh

Even Nepal.

Be it neighbours or surroundings or world power, you have to keep your options fluid.

Geopolitics is real.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Its not only BJP/RSS...no political party in India will support Taliban. As insane as Hindu nationalists are, they are still better than rampaging Islamists.

Old and outdated narrative.

Taliban are having talks with foreign governments, starting with USA, China and Russia.

And as, God willing, Indians keep on failing in their pathetic attempts to spread terrorism and violence in Afghanistan... the whole region will benefit from it.

Even India will benefit from it. It is just the current Hindu extremists who run India lack vision and ability to see the bigger picture.

 

[wajid]

All the rona dhona in India is bcoz a bonafide terror outfit like Taliban will rule Afghanistan now which previously was ran by a relatively stable democratic govt. Maybe Taliban is not a big deal for Pakistanis but for the rest of the world they are simply militants. India has all the right to cry about such hostile surroundings.

I really doubt it. Considering the love of Indian government for fascist Arab dictatorships, I guess things will change quickly if Taliban start giving contracts of rare earth minerals mining or if some huge oil discovery is made.

If Afghanis are ok with Taliban then who cares about the rest of the world? Same as Modi pre-election was denied visas everywhere but after Indians elected him as their PM, no one cared. Now he receives civil awards.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Some posters get triggered no matter what he says.

Its a fact that a lot of temples were destroyed.

There are no two ways about it.

In a way, i feel desis are very unidimensional.

Can only look at things from their point of view.

Are any mosques destroyed too?

 

[Rajdeep]

I really doubt it. Considering the love of Indian government for fascist Arab dictatorships, I guess things will change quickly if Taliban start giving contracts of rare earth minerals mining or if some huge oil discovery is made.

If Afghanis are ok with Taliban then who cares about the rest of the world? Same as Modi pre-election was denied visas everywhere but after Indians elected him as their PM, no one cared. Now he receives civil awards.

Of course India has business interests in Afghanistan and nothing wrong in it? Its not as if having foreign direct investment is a crime. But that does not mean India is against Taliban only bcoz of business interests. They are against bcoz Taliban is a hostile militant organization. If India offers the same business deals and throw money at Taliban tomorrow, they will also come running. Have a look at the Taliban spokesperson interview in NDTV.

Who said Afghanis are okay with Taliban? Have you seen the chaos in the airport & how hundreds of people hanging onto the plane trying to flee the country? Does that gives you the impression that they are okay with Taliban rule?

Look its nothing to do with Modi. India may make loss in the investments made in Afg but it has enough FDIs globally to recover from it. Pakistan will suffer the most being the immediate neighbour of Taliban ruled Afghanistan. You think a hostile neighbour will not impact you guys? Cricket teams like NZ & Eng are already reconsidering their tour to Pak now when just few months ago cricket was flourishing in Pakistan. And its just one of the example but then again its not my country, so I have no interest in discussing much.

 

[Rana]

He is clearly worried about the Mujahideen closing in on Kashmir as well. This really spells bad news for the subcontinent and peace I’m afraid

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

All the rona dhona in India is bcoz a bonafide terror outfit like Taliban will rule Afghanistan now which previously was ran by a relatively stable democratic govt. Maybe Taliban is not a big deal for Pakistanis but for the rest of the world they are simply militants. India has all the right to cry about such hostile surroundings.

A stable democratic govt which couldn't survive a few weeks without foreign money and firepower. )

Nice try, but this thread isn't about Afghanistan, no need to deflect. If you support your govt you should be able to do on their own merits instead of worrying about Afghanistan.

 

[IMMY69]

A stable democratic govt which couldn't survive a few weeks without foreign money and firepower. )

Nice try, but this thread isn't about Afghanistan, no need to deflect. If you support your govt you should be able to do on their own merits instead of worrying about Afghanistan.

No to mention the billions plundered hence the safe haven granted in the UAE.

 

[Local.Dada]

Relations so good their army of "diplomats" had to flee in the dark of the night

Meanwhile countries with real good relationship still have their embassies and people working inside Afghanistan.

Any normal/ regular person with a regular job and family would soil their pants if they know the Taliban was coming for them.

I can relate but obviously if you are one of those rooting for the Taliban sitting in countries that stand totally on the opposite side of these kind of folk, obviously that would be a funny/ surreal thing.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Any normal/ regular person with a regular job and family would soil their pants if they know the Taliban was coming for them.

I can relate but obviously if you are one of those rooting for the Taliban sitting in countries that stand totally on the opposite side of these kind of folk, obviously that would be a funny/ surreal thing.

If you think that's funny, then think about how funny it is to see Indian posters constantly twisting about Afghanistan when the thread is about their dear leader and his mosque demolishing exploits.

 

[Local.Dada]

If you think that's funny, then think about how funny it is to see Indian posters constantly twisting about Afghanistan when the thread is about their dear leader and his mosque demolishing exploits.

What mosque has Modi demolished. In india since 1947 there was only one mosque that was demolished and every Indian poster on here will tell you that was wrong. That mosque was demolished in 1992, 22 years before Modi was elected.

Now as far as the religious dispute, that is resolved with both parties happy and surprisingly with all the protests happening in india, that is one topic that was totally diffused.

Read a book or pick up the newspaper for a change

 

[Bewal Express]

All the rona dhona in India is bcoz a bonafide terror outfit like Taliban will rule Afghanistan now which previously was ran by a relatively stable democratic govt. Maybe Taliban is not a big deal for Pakistanis but for the rest of the world they are simply militants. India has all the right to cry about such hostile surroundings.

Relatively stable? In what sense? Democratic govts don't fall in 10 days. They were seen as agents of the West and without an occupying army it could never survive. Look at all the countries that feel humiliated and you see all of them in Afg to use if for their own ends. In your case to attack us.
Maybe having a fascist as a leader is not a big deal for Inds but the rest of the World banned him for being the leader of a massacre in Gujarat.

 

[Bewal Express]

What mosque has Modi demolished. In india since 1947 there was only one mosque that was demolished and every Indian poster on here will tell you that was wrong. That mosque was demolished in 1992, 22 years before Modi was elected.

Now as far as the religious dispute, that is resolved with both parties happy and surprisingly with all the protests happening in india, that is one topic that was totally diffused.

Read a book or pick up the newspaper for a change

The Mosque was demolished by the fascist forerunners to Modi.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

All the rona dhona in India is bcoz a bonafide terror outfit like Taliban will rule Afghanistan now which previously was ran by a relatively stable democratic govt. Maybe Taliban is not a big deal for Pakistanis but for the rest of the world they are simply militants. India has all the right to cry about such hostile surroundings.

Stable democratic government? It ain’t stable if it folds like a pack of cards within a day. And as for democratic…not really. The average Afghan didn’t care for the warlords and child sex traffickers which formed that government

 

[Colorblind Genius]

What mosque has Modi demolished.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021...-ruled-indian-state-muslim-body-to-move-court

 

[cricketjoshila]

The fascist should explained to the poor of Ind why the $3bn had been wasted in Afghanistan when 800mn of them live on the breadline.

Pakistanis should look at their own pm begging bailouts to run the country.

 

[cricketjoshila]

He is clearly worried about the Mujahideen closing in on Kashmir as well. This really spells bad news for the subcontinent and peace I’m afraid

Unless these terrorists are more powerful than the pakistan army, they are not going to make much difference in kashmir.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yeah why does India need good relations with its neighbours and surroundings?

So that it doesnt get isolated.

China controls SL to an extent.

Bangladesh

Even Nepal.

Be it neighbours or surroundings or world power, you have to keep your options fluid.

Geopolitics is real.

BD is surrounded by India on 3 sides. China can do very little actually.

Nepal threw out its communist PM, who was a Chinese stooge. Chinese supported leaders are extremely unpopular.

Maldives threw out the chinese supported President.

Nepal did the same to its PM.

Rajapaksa lost twice and realised that too much chinese was not good for him. Thats why he is balancing it in this term.

Chinese model doesn't work in democratic countries, because people simply hate that kind of high handedness and foreign political interference. It only works in dictatorships and pseudo democracies.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I have no idea what Modi is talking of.

Can anyone explain?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

The fascist should explained to the poor of Ind why the $3bn had been wasted in Afghanistan when 800mn of them live on the breadline.

Exactly. What did India get from Afghanistan in return?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I have no idea what Modi is talking of.

Can anyone explain?

'Empires of terror'? He is basically explaining his stint as a PM in few words.

 

[IMMY69]

'Empires of terror'? He is basically explaining his stint as a PM in few words.

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Well they say accepting you have an issue is half way there to fixing your problem

 

[Napa]

The fascist should explained to the poor of Ind why the $3bn had been wasted in Afghanistan when 800mn of them live on the breadline.

Because... the US and India are allies... India has a yearly net trade surplus of $50 billion with the US and the US spent $2,000 billion on Afghanistan.

When your ally asks for help, you provide help rather than making a big deal of $3 billion.

Your numbers for Indian poverty are delusional.

<b>Report: India Lifted 271 Million People Out Of Poverty In A Decade</b>

The United Nations Development Programme has released its 2019 Multidimensional Poverty Index which highlights the number of people around the world experiencing poverty at regional, national and subnational levels. The term "multidimensional poverty" goes a step further than simply focusing on a lack of finances. It encompasses other factors such as poor health or malnutrition, lack of clean water or electricity, poor quality of work and limited education access in order to provide a broader picture of poverty's true reality. The index found that across 101 countries, 1.3 billion - 23% - are multidimensionally poor with half that number aged under 18.

<b>Despite those grim figures, some countries are successfully tackling multidimensional poverty and India is the most notable example.</b> The report found that over 640 million people across India were in multidimensional poverty in 2005/2006 and that <b>fell steeply to slightly more than 365.55 million by 2016/2017 - an impressive reduction of 271 million.</b> Neighboring Bangladesh also made strides in reducing its poverty numbers with a reduction of 19 million between 2004 and 2014.

In recent years, India has embarked on several ambitious programs aimed at improving living standard such as improving electricity access and extending sanitation coverage. According to the World Bank, 70% of the population had electricity access in 2007 and that increased to 93% by 2017. Before Prime Minister Narendra Modi came to power, just under 40% of the Indian population had access to a household toilet. He vowed to change that and billions of dollars were invested in improving sanitation under the Swachh Bharat Abhiyan ("Clean India") campaign which started in October 2014. Today, India's Ministry of Drinking Water and Sanitation states that basic sanitation coverage across the country has increased to 99.45% as of July 2019.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallm...erty-in-a-decade-infographic/?sh=133f0e692284

No replies unless I see something sensible.

 

[Bewal Express]

Because... the US and India are allies... India has a yearly net trade surplus of $50 billion with the US and the US spent $2,000 billion on Afghanistan.

When your ally asks for help, you provide help rather than counting billions.

Your numbers for Indian poverty are delusional.



No replies unless I see something sensible.

We saw how sensible you are when you posted on the LNG thread

 

[MenInG]

BACK to topic:

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New Delhi: Hours after Prime Minister Narendra Modi said that “empires created out of terror can dominate for some time”, the opposition said he must look at “Taliban within the BJP”.

Talking to reporters, Shakti Singh Gohil said such ideologies also exist in India.

“If we look at it closely, we will see that such ideologies also exist in our country. Such ideologies do not believe in humanity. They follow terrorism. What PM said should be applicable on every Indian including him,” he added.

Karnataka Congress leader Dinesh Gundu Rao said, “We should also introspect in our country. PM Modi can’t control party workers giving hate speeches. What’s the point of giving a discourse on another country?”

CPI(M) leader Paul Sebastian said that the Taliban is not confined to one country, it is everywhere.

“It is also present in India. That mindset is there,” he added.

Inaugurating a few projects of the famous Somnath temple situated in Gir-Somnath district of Gujarat virtually, the PM had said that destructive forces and people who follow the ideology of creating empires through terror can dominate for some time, but their existence is not permanent as they cannot suppress humanity forever.

“This temple was demolished numerous times over several centuries in the past. Idols of deities were also desecrated. Attempts were made to erase its existence. But it came up again in its full glory every time it was demolished,” he said.

He further said that the Somnath temple gave a message to the entire world that “truth cannot be defeated by falsehood, and faith cannot be crushed under the feet of terror”.

This was true when some tyrants were demolishing the Somnath temple, and it is true even today when the world has apprehensions because of some people following such ideology, he added.

https://www.timesnownews.com/india/...ark-asks-to-look-at-taliban-within-bjp/801765

 

[the Great Khan]

Because... the US and India are allies... India has a yearly net trade surplus of $50 billion with the US and the US spent $2,000 billion on Afghanistan.

When your ally asks for help, you provide help rather than making a big deal of $3 billion.

Your numbers for Indian poverty are delusional.



No replies unless I see something sensible.

and what help did you provide? you provided so much help that 70% of afghanistan is below the poverty line, 40% dont have nay meaningful chance of employment and your so called allies decided to steal 160 million dollars and flee the country. The only reason you were there was to ensure you could run a fifteen year terror campaign against your enemy. You werent there to help anyone but yourselves. Now dont reply unless you can complete a coherent sensible sentence with more than just idiotic blathering and Bhakht propaganda!! there are plenty of other forums where you can indulge those urges!!

 

[KingKhanWC]

'Empires of terror'? He is basically explaining his stint as a PM in few words.

These right wing nutters love using the word 'terror', no different to the Zionists when in fact they groups of terror.

I think Modi continues to stoke the fire of extremist Hindus by reminding them, they were conquered by Muslims resulting in the creation of Pakistan. He knows this will raise their passions and hate, exactly what he needs for his extremists to keep power.

 

[Rana]

Unless these terrorists are more powerful than the pakistan army, they are not going to make much difference in kashmir.

I’m not sure you can look at it that way. Remember, an untrained teenager in Kashmir acquired some explosives and killed 40 army personnel, and this almost lead to a nuclear war between India and Pakistan. If this is all it takes to cause havoc and unrest in the sub continent, then just imagine what those cold blooded, battle hardened militants from the mountains will do when they descend upon Kashmir, or have to take on Indian army soldiers.

At the end of the day, innocent people will die.

 

[Napa]

PM Modi also said that India, which was at 65th position in 2013 in Travel and Tourism Competitiveness Index, jumped to 34th position in 2019.

This is fantastic news. Tourism is an extremely important industry for a low income country like India as it is labor intensive and generates employment. Good job by GOI.