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Remember that kid from the U19 2006 WC?

Where is he these days? He seemed more talented and resembled Wasim more than Amir!

Bowling average of less than 28 in all three formats but last played in 2014!
 
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Oh yeah this guy. People remember Anwar Ali, but forget about this guy.

I checked his cricinfo profile a while back, but wow last played in 2014 huh. Means he has moved on.

Don't blame him either. PCB selectors may make hardworkers lose hope after consistent performances.

Or could be he has gone to England to play club.
 
Oh yeah this guy. People remember Anwar Ali, but forget about this guy.

I checked his cricinfo profile a while back, but wow last played in 2014 huh. Means he has moved on.

Don't blame him either. PCB selectors may make hardworkers lose hope after consistent performances.

Or could be he has gone to England to play club.

Who was he?

Was he any good or just another mediocre hack like so many others we have produced?
 
Who was he?

Was he any good or just another mediocre hack like so many others we have produced?

When you open the India v Pak U19 2006 final video on youtube IIRC this guy is on the thumbnail. Played a good supporting role with the ball in that final along with A. Ali. Looked decent then, but A. Ali stole the show.
 
We have wasted this guy. Another talented guy lost because of the departmental system.

I once heard that he couldn't move to another department because his family needed his PIA salary. PIA/HBL/NBP offer the best money.

His story is done. Move on and improve your domestic structure, cricket at grassroot level.
 
i have heard, don't know right or wrong that he has moved to some western country.
 
i have heard, don't know right or wrong that he has moved to some western country.

That would be a tragedy since he was such an amazing talent!
Was more consistent throughout the 2006 WC than Ali
 
As I mention in another thread that Akhtar Ayub n Jamshed were bigger loss than changing Anwer Ali's action.
 
In 21 first class games that he played, he took 56 wickets, at an average of 28 (which is nothing extraordinary by Pakistani FC standards), so can't really blame the system or selectors in this case.
 
In 21 first class games that he played, he took 56 wickets, at an average of 28 (which is nothing extraordinary by Pakistani FC standards), so can't really blame the system or selectors in this case.

There is sifarish at lower levels as well.

Plus domestic players hardly make any money, one big reason why players would quit after a few years of toil
 
Can remember the final but honestly cannot remember the players who played barring safraz and anwar. Reading the comments it's sad to see what happened with this guy.
 
Can remember the final but honestly cannot remember the players who played barring safraz and anwar. Reading the comments it's sad to see what happened with this guy.

Imad Wasim
Nasir Jamshed
Sarfraz Ahmed
Anwar Ali
Jamshed Ahmed
Akhtar Ayub
Ali Asad
Ali Khan

India on the other hand had: Rohit Sharma, Pujara, R Jadeja, P Chawla, S Dhawan.
 
Imad Wasim
Nasir Jamshed
Sarfraz Ahmed
Anwar Ali
Jamshed Ahmed
Akhtar Ayub
Ali Asad
Ali Khan

India on the other hand had: Rohit Sharma, Pujara, R Jadeja, P Chawla, S Dhawan.

Damn these Indian players have gone on to be a success. Whilst ours is only sarfaraz. Shows the difference in development between the two countries.
 
In 21 first class games that he played, he took 56 wickets, at an average of 28 (which is nothing extraordinary by Pakistani FC standards), so can't really blame the system or selectors in this case.



Tis is why good/experienced cricket followers do not go purely on numbers alone or read a few stats and say we know it all!

This guy was messed around with, every time he did well (3-4 wickets in an innings or bowled well over all), he had to sit out the next game because PIA squad had a few old timers and sifarshis in their squad. The poor kid did an interview here (I think) and mentioned the same problems and how he needs to support his family. If I recall correctly, he was quite depressed and already thinking of doing something else.

But yeah, his numbers will not look world class if you are just a number cruncher
 
Damn these Indian players have gone on to be a success. Whilst ours is only sarfaraz. Shows the difference in development between the two countries.

Not necessarily. Now compare the batch of 2008:

Pakistan:
Imad Wasim (C)
Shan Masood (VC)
Umar Akmal
Ahmed Shehzad
Umar Amin
Usman Salahuddin
Junaid Khan
Mohammad Aamir

India: V Kohli, R Jadeja only. They did win the world cup though under Kohli's captaincy.

8 players played for Pak which is a lot while only 2 of India's went ahead.
 
Tis is why good/experienced cricket followers do not go purely on numbers alone or read a few stats and say we know it all!

This guy was messed around with, every time he did well (3-4 wickets in an innings or bowled well over all), he had to sit out the next game because PIA squad had a few old timers and sifarshis in their squad. The poor kid did an interview here (I think) and mentioned the same problems and how he needs to support his family. If I recall correctly, he was quite depressed and already thinking of doing something else.

But yeah, his numbers will not look world class if you are just a number cruncher
Well stats don't lie. If you go by players' stories, then Faisal Iqbal should have played 100 tests by now. Thing is, whatever chances he got, he didn't grab it. It's better to go on stats rather than going on a performance in an U19 game a decade back. If nobody had watched Anwar Ali play and his only memory was that of U19 WC final, I would have been bashed for saying that his numbers are ordinary. Turns out, that performance was actually one off, assisted by favourable conditions and he is indeed an ordinary bowler. Numbers might not tell the whole story over a game or two, but in the long run, they really do.
 
Well stats don't lie. If you go by players' stories, then Faisal Iqbal should have played 100 tests by now. Thing is, whatever chances he got, he didn't grab it. It's better to go on stats rather than going on a performance in an U19 game a decade back. If nobody had watched Anwar Ali play and his only memory was that of U19 WC final, I would have been bashed for saying that his numbers are ordinary. Turns out, that performance was actually one off, assisted by favourable conditions and he is indeed an ordinary bowler. Numbers might not tell the whole story over a game or two, but in the long run, they really do.




You keep digging the hole deeper and deeper...have you not noticed the difference in Anwar Ali's action in that final and now; do you even know half of the story on why he became so docile?

Like I said, judging a player solely on stats when you never saw him play on the ground is fine by you, you can believe what you want. A few mods and severeal others here know how Jamshed was misused and treated unfairly and hence got so dishearted that he left for good. Faisal Iqbal is actually a different case, he was given enough chances, so his case does not count!
 
Not necessarily. Now compare the batch of 2008:

Pakistan:
Imad Wasim (C)
Shan Masood (VC)
Umar Akmal
Ahmed Shehzad
Umar Amin
Usman Salahuddin
Junaid Khan
Mohammad Aamir

India: V Kohli, R Jadeja only. They did win the world cup though under Kohli's captaincy.

8 players played for Pak which is a lot while only 2 of India's went ahead.

2008 bunch is better than our 2006 one
 
You keep digging the hole deeper and deeper...have you not noticed the difference in Anwar Ali's action in that final and now; do you even know half of the story on why he became so docile?

Like I said, judging a player solely on stats when you never saw him play on the ground is fine by you, you can believe what you want. A few mods and severeal others here know how Jamshed was misused and treated unfairly and hence got so dishearted that he left for good. Faisal Iqbal is actually a different case, he was given enough chances, so his case does not count!
Action made the difference but was he setting the world on fire before the action change? He wasn't. And please tell me a few instances of when he was 'mistreated'. Any occasion when he performed but was dropped for some '********' and who was the '********'. Obviously you don't know any of these things and are believing what you read. Believing in stats without watching a player play is better than believing in stories without having a clue yourself.
 
Where is he?

Apparently he was more talented than Anwar Ali who was a one trick pony
 
Where is he?

Apparently he was more talented than Anwar Ali who was a one trick pony

I'm probably more talented than Anwar Ali :ashwin. His only notable performances were the U19 WC Final and that T20 against SL few years back where we somehow got into a horrible position chasing and Afridi, Imad, and this guy had to take us home.
 
What happened to Jamshed Ahmed?


https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...nder-19s-final-icc-under-19-world-cup-2005-06

I was watching a video of the 2006 U19 World Cup final between Pakistan and India and saw how far Anwar Ali has fallen from the bowler he used to be. But then I saw another decent lad who bowled a very good delivery at 3:55 and even though he only took two wickets in the game, he seemed quiet good and when I checked his stats on ESPNcricinfo it said he hasn't played since 2014. Anyone have any idea on what happened to him?
 
He used to keep in touch but I've not heard from him for a while.

He had a torrid time at PIA who really messed him around, played him one match, dropped him, left him out and so the cycle continued.
 
He used to keep in touch but I've not heard from him for a while.

He had a torrid time at PIA who really messed him around, played him one match, dropped him, left him out and so the cycle continued.

Sad to hear, looked like a real gem in the video
 
He used to keep in touch but I've not heard from him for a while.

He had a torrid time at PIA who really messed him around, played him one match, dropped him, left him out and so the cycle continued.

The bastions of Pakistan Cricket, the departments.

It is also his fault, he should have taken the risk and gone elsewhere, he chose to sacrifice his potential for a guaranteed PIA Salary.
 
The bastions of Pakistan Cricket, the departments.

It is also his fault, he should have taken the risk and gone elsewhere, he chose to sacrifice his potential for a guaranteed PIA Salary.

But when you have to feed the family its easier said than done. The PCB should have worked with PIA and him. What a waste and the same for Akhtar Ayub
 
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Jamshed Ahmed who is now 31 has for the past few years been working at Allama Iqbal International Airport in Lahore and playing the occasional game of cricket for local clubs.
 
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Jamshed Ahmed who is now 31 has for the past few years been working at Allama Iqbal International Airport in Lahore and playing the occasional game of cricket for local clubs.

Wow, that's pretty sad. What a waste of talent. I wonder what the story is behind how he ended up there. I wish him all the best.
 
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Jamshed Ahmed who is now 31 has for the past few years been working at Allama Iqbal International Airport in Lahore and playing the occasional game of cricket for local clubs.

Wow, that's pretty sad. What a waste of talent. I wonder what the story is behind how he ended up there. I wish him all the best.

I think it’s a case of not being able to take risks.

He had a guaranteed job at PIA for a pittance and he preferred to keep that guarantee rather than take a risk and try his luck elsewhere. Guys like Shoaib Akhtar and Younis Khan took that risk.
 
I think it’s a case of not being able to take risks.

He had a guaranteed job at PIA for a pittance and he preferred to keep that guarantee rather than take a risk and try his luck elsewhere. Guys like Shoaib Akhtar and Younis Khan took that risk.

Easy to say for you or I.

Some teams were saying come and play for us, but we can't give you a job. Not many people would accept those terms.
 
Easy to say for you or I.

Some teams were saying come and play for us, but we can't give you a job. Not many people would accept those terms.

I question whether he was good enough if PIA barely played him.
 
Anwar Ali could be joining him soon. Such a shame both seemed to have so much potential in that game, I’ve never seen the ball swing so much.
 
Anwar Ali could be joining him soon. Such a shame both seemed to have so much potential in that game, I’ve never seen the ball swing so much.

Anwar Ali had an international career and could still be somewhat decent utility player in T20 leagues. Atleast he has gotten financial return out of the game
 
Easy to say for you or I.

Some teams were saying come and play for us, but we can't give you a job. Not many people would accept those terms.

No. I’m not saying he was treated well or had a good card handed to him. What happened is wrong and just talent should be enough.

What I am saying is that sometimes players have to take the less popular and straightforward step with sacrifices in short term to get a huge return possibly in the long term. It is not like the PIA job was paying him enough to be financially secure in the long term.

An example is Shoaib akhtar. He was also in PIA but they weren’t playing him. He had the courage to leave them early in his career and try his luck elsewhere and it got him great dividends. Same with Mohammad Yousuf. Lahore wouldn’t play him in their eleven but he moved to Bahawalpur to get chances.
 
No. I’m not saying he was treated well or had a good card handed to him. What happened is wrong and just talent should be enough.

What I am saying is that sometimes players have to take the less popular and straightforward step with sacrifices in short term to get a huge return possibly in the long term. It is not like the PIA job was paying him enough to be financially secure in the long term.

An example is Shoaib akhtar. He was also in PIA but they weren’t playing him. He had the courage to leave them early in his career and try his luck elsewhere and it got him great dividends. Same with Mohammad Yousuf. Lahore wouldn’t play him in their eleven but he moved to Bahawalpur to get chances.

Shoaib and Yousaf believed they were good enough to succeed anywhere they went. Jamshed probably deep down felt he wasn't good enough otherwise he would have taken that risk, gamble to play for another team. Another question that has to be asked is that there might be a reason why PIA never played him, he probably was not good enough. Comfort Zone behavior
 
No. I’m not saying he was treated well or had a good card handed to him. What happened is wrong and just talent should be enough.

What I am saying is that sometimes players have to take the less popular and straightforward step with sacrifices in short term to get a huge return possibly in the long term. It is not like the PIA job was paying him enough to be financially secure in the long term.

An example is Shoaib akhtar. He was also in PIA but they weren’t playing him. He had the courage to leave them early in his career and try his luck elsewhere and it got him great dividends. Same with Mohammad Yousuf. Lahore wouldn’t play him in their eleven but he moved to Bahawalpur to get chances.

I suggested something similar to Jamshed back in the day, but he said some departmental teams were asking him to play for them for virtually no money and without a job or security.

Regarding his time at PIA, he made it clear that the team management had their favourites who would be automatic picks and the rest would fight for scraps.
 
I suggested something similar to Jamshed back in the day, but he said some departmental teams were asking him to play for them for virtually no money and without a job or security.

Regarding his time at PIA, he made it clear that the team management had their favourites who would be automatic picks and the rest would fight for scraps.

I refuse to believe that the PIA would bench someone who was world class. If Jamshed was very good, he should have been able to break through.

Again to the defenders of Department Cricket, Are they really giving a livelihood to cricketers if Jamshed Ahmed has no other department willing to offer him a job?
 
I refuse to believe that the PIA would bench someone who was world class. If Jamshed was very good, he should have been able to break through.

Again to the defenders of Department Cricket, Are they really giving a livelihood to cricketers if Jamshed Ahmed has no other department willing to offer him a job?

You can refuse to believe whatever you want, I prefer to believe the player himself.

I recall him telling me about a good performance he had for PIA where he took a few wickets......next match he was dropped.

You are very naive if you think domestic cricket chances are just based on ability.
 
You can refuse to believe whatever you want, I prefer to believe the player himself.

I recall him telling me about a good performance he had for PIA where he took a few wickets......next match he was dropped.

You are very naive if you think domestic cricket chances are just based on ability.

Players will always defend themselves. I believe common sense, if his talent was outstanding, world class and if he believed in himself, he would have taken the risk of going to another team and putting in the performances necessary to catch the attention of the selectors to select him and the departments to consider offering him a job. He chose to stick to his comfort zone salary of PIA and remain behind the pecking order.
 
You can refuse to believe whatever you want, I prefer to believe the player himself.

I recall him telling me about a good performance he had for PIA where he took a few wickets......next match he was dropped.

You are very naive if you think domestic cricket chances are just based on ability.
[MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] - did you ever ask him about the fact that ahead of him in PIA he had domestic legends such as Najaf Shah (470+ FC wicket at average of 24) and Aizaz Cheema (570+ FC wickets at an average of 20!) at their peak while they were in their 20s?

Then there was Anwar Ali who had made a huge impression on his initial FC performances and was an all rounder on top of it. So no way Anwar Ali would not play either. Anwar Ali was also same batch as Jamshed Ahmed. We criticize him for his international career but in initial days in domestic FC (particularly in his first season or 2 before action change, he was tearing opposition apart)

Then there were guys like Kamran Sajid (20s average and long-time PIA players) and Ali Imnran (another under 19 WC winner with 200+ wickets at an average of 22).

These guys were all playing for PIA at the same time as Jamshed Ahmed and all had time on their side. Asides from Kamran Sajid perhaps (who had lot of experience with him), the rest all had better cricketing pedigree at the time compared to Jamshed Ahmed too (who had 1 5wicket haul in 44 innings).

There were too many cricketers of similar or better quality in front of Jamshed Ahmed and there was little cricketing reason to drop them in their 20s for someone unproven who hadn't set the scene alight in his few domestic performances.

If Jamshed Ahmed believed he was good enough, he should have tried his luck elsewhere. I am tempted to think that as [MENTION=2501]Savak[/MENTION] says, Jamshed himself did not have the confidence in himself.
 
[MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] - did you ever ask him about the fact that ahead of him in PIA he had domestic legends such as Najaf Shah (470+ FC wicket at average of 24) and Aizaz Cheema (570+ FC wickets at an average of 20!) at their peak while they were in their 20s?

Then there was Anwar Ali who had made a huge impression on his initial FC performances and was an all rounder on top of it. So no way Anwar Ali would not play either. Anwar Ali was also same batch as Jamshed Ahmed. We criticize him for his international career but in initial days in domestic FC (particularly in his first season or 2 before action change, he was tearing opposition apart)

Then there were guys like Kamran Sajid (20s average and long-time PIA players) and Ali Imnran (another under 19 WC winner with 200+ wickets at an average of 22).

These guys were all playing for PIA at the same time as Jamshed Ahmed and all had time on their side. Asides from Kamran Sajid perhaps (who had lot of experience with him), the rest all had better cricketing pedigree at the time compared to Jamshed Ahmed too (who had 1 5wicket haul in 44 innings).

There were too many cricketers of similar or better quality in front of Jamshed Ahmed and there was little cricketing reason to drop them in their 20s for someone unproven who hadn't set the scene alight in his few domestic performances.

If Jamshed Ahmed believed he was good enough, he should have tried his luck elsewhere. I am tempted to think that as [MENTION=2501]Savak[/MENTION] says, Jamshed himself did not have the confidence in himself.

[MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] did you ask him these st the time?
 
[MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] did you ask him these st the time?

I don't think it's my job to ask him who he thought he was better than or worse than at PIA.

I do recall him saying that a few times he did well, only to be dropped the next match.

One family dominated PIA for a number of years and it seemed they were pulling the strings.
 
I don't think it's my job to ask him who he thought he was better than or worse than at PIA.

I do recall him saying that a few times he did well, only to be dropped the next match.

One family dominated PIA for a number of years and it seemed they were pulling the strings.

Ok. Was wondering

Anyways looking at the talent PIA had and the performances they were putting up, it’s no mystery why he didn’t get to play more. He just wasn’t good enough for that side and should have switched.
 
Ok. Was wondering

Anyways looking at the talent PIA had and the performances they were putting up, it’s no mystery why he didn’t get to play more. He just wasn’t good enough for that side and should have switched.

I told him many times to move on, but at the end of the day I wasn't paying his bills. I guess he weighed up the pros and cons and stayed at PIA, a decision that cricket-wise cost him.
 
I told him many times to move on, but at the end of the day I wasn't paying his bills. I guess he weighed up the pros and cons and stayed at PIA, a decision that cricket-wise cost him.

That’s true and why I say (form comfort of my home) that he should have taken that risk at the time and it may have paid great dividends like it did for Shoaib Akhtar in a very similar situation 15 years earlier.

However obviously neither of us were in his shoes either. I wonder if he regrets that. its not like departments at the time (or even now) paid unimaginable sums. But maybe his majbooriyan were such that he simply couldn’t afford that.
 
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Would be really interesting to see what he says if you do an interview with him.

Such a shame, some of his deliveries were very Wasim Akram like. Could have been a great Test player
 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...nder-19s-final-icc-under-19-world-cup-2005-06

I was watching a video of the 2006 U19 World Cup final between Pakistan and India and saw how far Anwar Ali has fallen from the bowler he used to be. But then I saw another decent lad who bowled a very good delivery at 3:55 and even though he only took two wickets in the game, he seemed quiet good and when I checked his stats on ESPNcricinfo it said he hasn't played since 2014. Anyone have any idea on what happened to him?

wow..
Who is this guy Anwar Ali.Bowled superb, look at that Rohit Sharma dismissal.
Where he is now?
 
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