Any room for improvement in Mohammad Abbas?

[Savak]

I think his physique can be further improved, now that he is our main superstar fast bowler, hopefully the PCB get him on a powerful nutrition, strength program and get him into even better shape

I would like his speed go up to 140 km/hr. Batsmen are going to stay outside the crease to counter him so having some extra pace will help provided it doesn't come at the cost of his line, length, swing/seam

I would like to see him given opportunities in ODI's and T-20's. But he shouldn't play every ODI and T-20, just important selective matches. His role should be to get wickets upfront. But obviously in order to hold his own in these shorter formats, he will need to learn how to bowl at the death.

 

[alized]

Perhaps developing a toe crushing YORKER. He can try to do more work with the steam like cutters. A 2 kmph pace increase will be splendid (BUT NOT AT THE COST OF ACCURACY!!!)

 

[Hawkeye]

He can bring the ball back into the right handers via seam movement.

But haven't seen him move it away. Not swing! Talking about movement off the seam.

 

[Savak]

He can bring the ball back into the right handers via seam movement.

But haven't seen him move it away. Not swing! Talking about movement off the seam.

He does move it away but not as consistently as the inswinger.

 

[mak36]

Perhaps developing a toe crushing YORKER. He can try to do more work with the steam like cutters. A 2 kmph pace increase will be splendid (BUT NOT AT THE COST OF ACCURACY!!!)

He has a very good yorker.

 

[mak36]

He's a thinker.

Just one example: this series vs Australia he dealt with the batsmen batting outside their crease a lot better than he did in the England series. He did this mainly by getting the keeper to come up to the crease and it paid dividends.

That's not the only way of dealing with it though. If the batsman is batting well outside his crease and the keeper is back, as a surprise delivery he should bowl a yorker/full length delivery. The reason being is the batsman expects the bowler to pull back his length if he is standing well outside of his crease and will often be deceived by the fuller length and trapped lbw. Shami actually used this to good effect against Buttler (as Buttler kept advancing down the wicket) and it worked a treat. Granted Shami is quicker but it's the same principle.

As mentioned above, he also needs to work on getting the ball to move away from the right handers.

 

[Saj]

Spoke with Mohammad Asif earlier regarding Abbas, Amir and Wahab.

He said that Abbas can improve and needs to work on his outswinger.

Interview coming soon.

 

[gazza619]

Spoke with Mohammad Asif earlier regarding Abbas, Amir and Wahab.

He said that Abbas can improve and needs to work on his outswinger.

Interview coming soon.

Awesome. He would become unplayable with a better outswinger. May be he should also control his work load in county cricket. We absolutely dont want him injured.

 

[Monsee]

Maybe Shoaib Akhtar like hair and Asif like cat walk run (after taking a wicket) will do wonders for this brilliant bowler

 

[Plumb]

Awesome. He would become unplayable with a better outswinger. May be he should also control his work load in county cricket. We absolutely dont want him injured.

County is the place where he learned more I believe. He should continue playing county and tests. No need to go for ODI or t20s

 

[moghul]

Spoke with Mohammad Asif earlier regarding Abbas, Amir and Wahab.

He said that Abbas can improve and needs to work on his outswinger.

Interview coming soon.

Looking forward to Asif's interview.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Needs to start taking 20 wickets per match to improve from now on

 

[cricketAXEpert]

Needs to learn, how to bowl Bouncers. Mohd Asif had same pace put used to bowl very well directed bouncers.

 

[Hawkeye]

Spoke with Mohammad Asif earlier regarding Abbas, Amir and Wahab.

He said that Abbas can improve and needs to work on his outswinger.

Interview coming soon.

I'm glad the legend thinks the same, that Abbas needs to learn how to move it away from the right handers.

 

[Savak]

Needs to learn, how to bowl Bouncers. Mohd Asif had same pace put used to bowl very well directed bouncers.

Asif's pace was no better than Abbas

 

[Stewie]

Agreed if he can get physically better it will be good.. thats always good.. yes to the outswinger. It will be useful if n ODIs to have added variety (if he plays ODIs)

But let us not get delusional and expect him to turn into a Waqar or Steyn now.. lets keep him as M Abbas because thats who he is...

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Not much, really. He's got the skill he needs. I'm interested to see how he bowls in Australia more than anything.

 

[barah_admi]

McGrath had to relentlessly improve, as did Wasim, as did Waqar, as did Marshall...the point being if the greatest have to improve, so does Abbas but no big changes. Just stay focused, stay fit, don't get carried away and remember, a time will come when he will go through a lean patch, which is ok. It happens to everyone, at times like that, avoid forums such as this lol

 

[alized]

ONE more thing!! Keep Wasim and Waqar AWAY from Abbas!!

They may be great bowlers but have a HORRENDOUS track record of coaching our talented bowlers.

 

[90MPH]

He’s nearly age 30 so just forget about this nonsense pace argument.

He just needs to stay fit. His accuracy and seam movement is enough.

What we need is other quirks to help him - he can’t alwyas get 9/10 wickets every match.

 

[90MPH]

Asif's pace was no better than Abbas

But he still had a decent bouncer due to his height.

Nothing Abbas can do about it though.

 

[Bewal Express]

He can bring the ball back into the right handers via seam movement.

But haven't seen him move it away. Not swing! Talking about movement off the seam.

I waa thinking the same, does he move it away from the right handers as a variation.

 

[Bewal Express]

Asif's pace was no better than Abbas

In the series against Ind in 2006, he was bowling around 85mph. It dropped to 80mph after that series.

 

[kingusama92]

Getting the ball to cut away with similar consistency will make him impossible to handle. Batsmen won't know which way the ball is going to move after it pitches in the "corridor of uncertainty."

 

[MMHS]

If he can maintain this fitness & stamina for another 4-5 years, I think he'll be doing wonders. Always a scope of improvement for every one, so yes can add a bit in pace will help.

From a right arm pacer, probably the toughest ball to master is a perfect leg cutter on good length - not out swing, leg-cutter like DK Lillee; he was almost unplayable if his leg cutter is working even on dead MCG tracks of 70s. He used to run from a little angle, and release from very close to stump - ball will come in, bringing batsman on front foot defense, and then just hold on to straight line ... he got batsmen bowled with leg cutter playing inside the line. Rod Marsh, Ian & Greg as WK, 1st & 2nd slip probably has highest number of catches taken of one bowler (C Marsh, B Lillee - 95 times), because of that one ball. With his off-cutter & incoming swing, if he can add Leg cutter as a surprise element in between, on green top almost unplayable, a torture for batsmen. Asif had out swing backed by sharp off cutter, ala Alderman, hence both used to get lots of LBWs, Abbas can bring slip cordon more in to play with leg cutter.

 

[sali]

Get Mohd Asif to work with him.....but always have a hidden camera installed.

 

[Pete Rose]

Not much, really. He's got the skill he needs. I'm interested to see how he bowls in Australia more than anything.

Australia pitches are hard and require super fit guys. He will have a better time in South Africa (provided Pakistan is not getting dismissed for sub 100 scores)

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Australia pitches are hard and require super fit guys. He will have a better time in South Africa (provided Pakistan is not getting dismissed for sub 100 scores)

Hence why I'm interested to see how he bowls there. He's got a high arm action and a surprising bouncer. I wanna see if he can find the inbetween length on those pitches.

 

[boomboom6]

Spoke with Mohammad Asif earlier regarding Abbas, Amir and Wahab.

He said that Abbas can improve and needs to work on his outswinger.

Interview coming soon.

Yup this is exactly what I was saying last night, Abbas can't move it both ways yet like Asif did ... good to see even Asif thinks the same that Abbas needs the outswinger as well to maintain his dominance as teams will inevitably adjust to him.

 

[Savak]

Yup this is exactly what I was saying last night, Abbas can't move it both ways yet like Asif did ... good to see even Asif thinks the same that Abbas needs the outswinger as well to maintain his dominance as teams will inevitably adjust to him.

Am seeing some old clips of Abbass, he does have an outswinger but he doesn't use it as much. He will need to use it once teams start developing plans against him.

 

[alized]

Mir Hamza can maybe help Abbas develop an out-swinger. And Abbas can help Hamza develop good line.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Not much, really. He's got the skill he needs. I'm interested to see how he bowls in Australia more than anything.

It's the only place i suspect he will do badly. Unless he gets bowler friendly conditions like the Saffers did in the 2nd test of 2016/17 tour when Philander did well too. He'll do well everywhere else though.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Yes Mir humza can learn alot from Abbas

 

[Chief Destroyer]

It's the only place i suspect he will do badly. Unless he gets bowler friendly conditions like the Saffers did in the 2nd test of 2016/17 tour when Philander did well too. He'll do well everywhere else though.

From what I see he generates enough bounce to succeed and obviously has the accuracy. It's a matter of finding the inbetween length which only Saffers and Aussies have been able to find.

 

[Hasan123]

Keep on doing what he's doing. Modern day batsmen usually struggling when they aren't scoring. So he should aim to maintain his line and length, keep on trying to force the batsmen forward and he will be successful.

Don't see him falling of a cliff like some of our players have recently. His bowling is simple and he knows how to dismiss batsmen. Heck he has performed on the most rubbish pitches in the world. So imagine what he can do in favourable conditions.