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Anyone at PakPassion who takes interest in the End of Times, especially Mahdi and Dajjal?

I feel the relaxed policies of this forum and the more than welcoming and accommodating behavior of the MODS is emboldening a lot of hate speech and targeted uncalled criticism of Muslims and Islam as a faith by the bigoted Hindus here. I appreciate the more sensible Hindus who stand up to defend us at times, I want to make sure your efforts do not go unnoticed. But this is overall not a good dynamic to have here. We all have more in common than not. We can get along with our own faiths in place and show mutual respect rather than engaging in such frivolous crap.

Yeah I disagree, you are pretty thin-skinned. Some of the posters here are just asking questions and trying to pick holes in various arguments. Nothing wrong with that.

If you take that as hate speech, then that says a lot about you than them.
 
Yeah I disagree, you are pretty thin-skinned. Some of the posters here are just asking questions and trying to pick holes in various arguments. Nothing wrong with that.

If you take that as hate speech, then that says a lot about you than them.
That is a mischaracterization. I see a lot of threads where the Muslims are directly being attacked and blamed for several challenges societies the world over face and somehow the effort is being made to make it look like we are responsible for them. There are so many examples of that on this forum, you only need look closely.You will see claims such as: Muslims in majority result in a downfall of a country. or look at what's going on Kashmir, BD, etc, etc,

Accuse me all you want about this and that but at least I am not disrespectful towards any faith here. I feel even you know the truth behind my post. I more than welcome a healthy debate if you want to stay within respectable parameters of my faith, which has been attacked a lot under the guise of atheism as well.

If I were to start picking holes in Hinduism, trust me I could do so with one hand tied behind my back and the result will be Swiss cheese. But I am respectful of other people's faith and don't want to mischaracterize something when I don't even know much about it.
 
I love to debate on inter religious stuff but being disrespectful towards any religion makes the debate acrimonious.
 
That is a mischaracterization. I see a lot of threads where the Muslims are directly being attacked and blamed for several challenges societies the world over face and somehow the effort is being made to make it look like we are responsible for them. There are so many examples of that on this forum, you only need look closely.You will see claims such as: Muslims in majority result in a downfall of a country. or look at what's going on Kashmir, BD, etc, etc,

Accuse me all you want about this and that but at least I am not disrespectful towards any faith here. I feel even you know the truth behind my post. I more than welcome a healthy debate if you want to stay within respectable parameters of my faith, which has been attacked a lot under the guise of atheism as well.

If I were to start picking holes in Hinduism, trust me I could do so with one hand tied behind my back and the result will be Swiss cheese. But I am respectful of other people's faith and don't want to mischaracterize something when I don't even know much about it.
.. as well as freedom of speech. Somehow that gives them license to say whatever they want. I understand there is a lot of repressed and historic anger towards Muslims
 
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I love to debate on inter religious stuff but being disrespectful towards any religion makes the debate acrimonious.
There is being disrespectful towards the faith and then there is mischaracterization of entire Muslims based on their faith due to certain issues, which we all know we face. I can understand if you want to bash those people or the guilty ones but blaming it all on the faith itself and inferring its all happening because of their faith is totally unacceptable.
 
Not worried one bit because I have firm faith in Bhagwaan.

When the end of times comes, he will rescue us.
You putting your faith in someone who orchestrated a war to end humanity.
 
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That is a mischaracterization. I see a lot of threads where the Muslims are directly being attacked and blamed for several challenges societies the world over face and somehow the effort is being made to make it look like we are responsible for them. There are so many examples of that on this forum, you only need look closely.You will see claims such as: Muslims in majority result in a downfall of a country. or look at what's going on Kashmir, BD, etc, etc,

Accuse me all you want about this and that but at least I am not disrespectful towards any faith here. I feel even you know the truth behind my post. I more than welcome a healthy debate if you want to stay within respectable parameters of my faith, which has been attacked a lot under the guise of atheism as well.

If I were to start picking holes in Hinduism, trust me I could do so with one hand tied behind my back and the result will be Swiss cheese. But I am respectful of other people's faith and don't want to mischaracterize something when I don't even know much about it.
you make it sound it sound like it is an achievement. I did it as a 5th grader.
 
you make it sound it sound like it is an achievement. I did it as a 5th grader.
It’s great to know. But once again completely off the mark and completely misses the point.

I bet you have had that problem from much further back than 5th grade. 😁
 
Wrong logic from you.

There were no Muslims in Mecca either. But Prophet is from Mecca. It was his home city.

Prophet was invited to Yathrib to arbitrate the internal squabbles between various groups. Can you show me evidence that he was asked to be their king or leader? Why would Jews appoint a Pagan Arab from Mecca to be their leader? :ROFLMAO:

The Hadith talks about killing the Jews. Questions will be raised when a nation/race is specifically mentioned and what will happen to them at end times. I have already mentioned that if the Hadith had said "Enemies of Islam" or "Bad Guys", no one will have problem. When a specific group of people are mentioned, it will be open for criticism.

He was appointed by the people of Madina not by Jews. It's you who seems to be making an equivalence between Madina and modern Tel Aviv. You can't make historically false claims then use the falsehoods to decide what is right or wrong. You can see the constitution of Madina and read the history of how the Prophet was appointed leader yourself.

Again we have already established that the hadith doesn't state all jews, nor does it mean Jews as a race or nation ( as there are some ethnic Jews who are Muslim) so I think you are arguing for the sake of arguing.
 
He was appointed by the people of Madina not by Jews. It's you who seems to be making an equivalence between Madina and modern Tel Aviv. You can't make historically false claims then use the falsehoods to decide what is right or wrong. You can see the constitution of Madina and read the history of how the Prophet was appointed leader yourself.

Again we have already established that the hadith doesn't state all jews, nor does it mean Jews as a race or nation ( as there are some ethnic Jews who are Muslim) so I think you are arguing for the sake of arguing.
Show me evidence that Prophet was made the leader of Yathrib.

Its funny, you conveniently ignore that a non-local man goes to a different place and kicks out the people who have been living there for centuries. I don't want to get into Banu Qureza massacre.
 
BJP Indians are trying to teach Muslims their own Islamic history.

Why do they try to be experts at everything?
 
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This picture is doing the rounds on news outlets… Salman of Saudi Arabia with Epstein… these pics are from Epstein’s mansion.

Not the character you want to be seen around with in such a buddy buddy fashion especially.
 
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This picture is doing the rounds on news outlets… Salman of Saudi Arabia with Epstein… these pics are from Epstein’s mansion.

Not the character you want to be seen around with in such a buddy buddy fashion especially.

Shocking stuff but it comes to no surprise to see him cosying up with a Zionist. Funny how a couple of famous rabbis who subscribe to this ideology (like Epstein) happen to own a porn site (Solomon Friedman) and a sex shop (Rabbi Shmuley).
 
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Sham! O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Yemen." The People said, "And also on our Najd." He said, "O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Sham (north)! O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Yemen." The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! And also on our Najd." I think the third time the Prophet (ﷺ) said, "There (in Najd) is the place of earthquakes and afflictions and from there comes out the side of the head of Satan
 
I've noticed an interesting trend on social media lately, particularly among activists in Pakistan, suggesting that Imam Mahdi could arrive within months. It seems like people are willing to say just about anything to get views and attention.

But I'm curious – what do you all think about this? The world has indeed become a very toxic place, and sometimes it feels like humanity is on the brink of self-destruction. Do you believe there's any truth to these claims, or is it just another sensational topic to drive engagement?
 
Whats the latest hypothesis about this.
Who is likely the Dajjal in current times.

Could it be Elon Musk maybe.
 
Part of a longer Hadith of Prophet Muhammad PBUH: “It is not the Dajjal that I fear for you. If he were to appear while I am among you, then I will be his adversary on your behalf. And if he appears and I am not among you, then each man will have to fend for himself. And Allah will take care of every Muslim after me” (Tirmidhi 2240)
Full Hadith: https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:2240
 
Part of a longer Hadith of Prophet Muhammad PBUH: “It is not the Dajjal that I fear for you. If he were to appear while I am among you, then I will be his adversary on your behalf. And if he appears and I am not among you, then each man will have to fend for himself. And Allah will take care of every Muslim after me” (Tirmidhi 2240)
Full Hadith: https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:2240

How can non Muslims defend themselves from Dajjal without compromising on their ancestors religion.
 
Part of a longer Hadith of Prophet Muhammad PBUH: “It is not the Dajjal that I fear for you. If he were to appear while I am among you, then I will be his adversary on your behalf. And if he appears and I am not among you, then each man will have to fend for himself. And Allah will take care of every Muslim after me” (Tirmidhi 2240)
Full Hadith: https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:2240

La hawla wa la quwwata illa billah.

May Allah (SWT) protect us from the fitnah of dajjal.
 
How can non Muslims defend themselves from Dajjal without compromising on their ancestors religion.

Anas b. Malik reported that a person asked Allah's Apostle (ﷺ):
When would the Last Hour come? Thereupon Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) kept quiet for a while. Then looked at a young boy in his presence belonging to the tribe of Azd Shanu'a and he said: If this boy lives he would not grow very old till the Last Hour would come to you. Anas said that this young boy was of our age during those days.


Bhaijaan, you can breathe easy after reading the above. May be the end times have come and gone and we don’t know it. We could be living in paradise and we are ignorant about it. :mv
 
The boy suspected to be Dajjal (Ibn Ṣayyād) — what actually happened

Who he was

His name was Ṣāfī ibn Ṣayyād (often called Ibn Ṣayyād).


He was a young Jewish boy living in Madinah during the Prophet’s ﷺ lifetime.

Some companions suspected him because:
  • he behaved strangely
  • he made cryptic statements
  • he claimed to receive “information”
  • he showed signs of deception

This raised concern because the Prophet ﷺ had warned that Dajjal would appear before the Hour.



The Prophet’s ﷺ interaction with him



The Prophet ﷺ tested him — not to confirm him as Dajjal, but to expose false claims.


In Sahih Muslim:
  • The Prophet ﷺ hid a verse from the Qur’an and asked Ibn Ṣayyād what it was
  • Ibn Ṣayyād gave a partial, distorted answer
  • The Prophet ﷺ replied: “Be disgraced — you cannot go beyond your rank.”

This showed he was not receiving revelation, only confused whispers.


Key point: The Prophet ﷺ never declared him Dajjal.

ʿUmar (raḍiyAllāhu ʿanhu) even asked permission to kill him — the Prophet ﷺ refused. From some sources He PBUH told him if he in fact is Dajjal, you can’t kill him only Isa Ibn Maryam PBUH can, and if he isn’t Dajjal, we don’t harm children.

Was Ibn Ṣayyād actually Dajjal?

No. Or at the very least he was suspected but at the time wasn’t proven to be.


Later narrations clarify this.


In Sahih Muslim, the Prophet ﷺ said:

  • Dajjal is chained
  • Dajjal will appear near the end of time
  • Dajjal’s fitnah (trial) will be global

None of that applied to Ibn Ṣayyād.


Scholars unanimously conclude:


Ibn Ṣayyād was a trial, not Dajjal himself.

What happened to Ibn Ṣayyād later?

This part is reported but disputed —

What is reported:
  • He later accepted Islam openly
  • He denied being Dajjal
  • He made tawbah
  • He lived among the Muslims

Some historical reports say he later:
  • participated in military expeditions
  • possibly died during the conquest era

But scholars caution: details of his later life are not fully established.

If he were Dajjal, repentance would not apply if he indeed did make taubah.

Next I will In Sha Allah post the verified account of Dajjal being chained and mentioning the signs before arrival.

May Allah forgive me if I missed anything here, thought this was an interesting and important detail to post about.


Full account.

I know there’s certain secret fans of Islam on here that without knowing any better like to pluck out Hadith out of context and then act smart, so thought I’d clear things up so there’s no confusion :wenger :asghar :rabada2

Any Muslim brothers, correct me if I missed anything.
 
The boy suspected to be Dajjal (Ibn Ṣayyād) — what actually happened

Who he was

His name was Ṣāfī ibn Ṣayyād (often called Ibn Ṣayyād).


He was a young Jewish boy living in Madinah during the Prophet’s ﷺ lifetime.

Some companions suspected him because:
  • he behaved strangely
  • he made cryptic statements
  • he claimed to receive “information”
  • he showed signs of deception

This raised concern because the Prophet ﷺ had warned that Dajjal would appear before the Hour.



The Prophet’s ﷺ interaction with him



The Prophet ﷺ tested him — not to confirm him as Dajjal, but to expose false claims.


In Sahih Muslim:
  • The Prophet ﷺ hid a verse from the Qur’an and asked Ibn Ṣayyād what it was
  • Ibn Ṣayyād gave a partial, distorted answer
  • The Prophet ﷺ replied: “Be disgraced — you cannot go beyond your rank.”

This showed he was not receiving revelation, only confused whispers.


Key point: The Prophet ﷺ never declared him Dajjal.

ʿUmar (raḍiyAllāhu ʿanhu) even asked permission to kill him — the Prophet ﷺ refused. From some sources He PBUH told him if he in fact is Dajjal, you can’t kill him only Isa Ibn Maryam PBUH can, and if he isn’t Dajjal, we don’t harm children.

Was Ibn Ṣayyād actually Dajjal?

No. Or at the very least he was suspected but at the time wasn’t proven to be.


Later narrations clarify this.


In Sahih Muslim, the Prophet ﷺ said:

  • Dajjal is chained
  • Dajjal will appear near the end of time
  • Dajjal’s fitnah (trial) will be global

None of that applied to Ibn Ṣayyād.


Scholars unanimously conclude:


Ibn Ṣayyād was a trial, not Dajjal himself.

What happened to Ibn Ṣayyād later?

This part is reported but disputed —

What is reported:
  • He later accepted Islam openly
  • He denied being Dajjal
  • He made tawbah
  • He lived among the Muslims

Some historical reports say he later:
  • participated in military expeditions
  • possibly died during the conquest era

But scholars caution: details of his later life are not fully established.

If he were Dajjal, repentance would not apply if he indeed did make taubah.

Next I will In Sha Allah post the verified account of Dajjal being chained and mentioning the signs before arrival.

May Allah forgive me if I missed anything here, thought this was an interesting and important detail to post about.


Full account.

I know there’s certain secret fans of Islam on here that without knowing any better like to pluck out Hadith out of context and then act smart, so thought I’d clear things up so there’s no confusion :wenger :asghar :rabada2

Any Muslim brothers, correct me if I missed anything.
Also should note, Islamic sources maintain that even if Dajjal does already exist, it doesn’t mean the trial associated with him should’ve already started as soon as he came to existence.. even if the boy above was Dajjal, the signs Dajjal himself mentions on where he was held would need to be fulfilled before he begins his prophesied agenda and at a time when Allah SWT has destined it.

But in any case, that’s the the story of the boy.

Allah knows best.
 
With all this conflict raging we are getting closer and closer to the arrival of Imam Mahdi AS

With Riyadh apparently getting hit within the last hour keep in mind that he will accept leadership between Hijr Al Aswad and Maqam e Ibrahim,
  • Sunan Abi Dawud, Hadith no. 4286

The Prophet ﷺ said that:
  • There will be a dispute after the death of a ruler.
  • A man from Madinah will flee to Makkah.
  • People from Makkah will bring him out unwillingly.
  • They will give him bayʿah (pledge allegiance) between the Black Stone (al-Hajar al-Aswad) and Maqām Ibrāhīm.
  • An army will be sent against him from Syria.
  • That army will be swallowed by the earth in the desert of Baydā’.
 
We knew Dajjal was coming.

But luckily we were prepared because it was foretold.
 
With all this conflict raging we are getting closer and closer to the arrival of Imam Mahdi AS

With Riyadh apparently getting hit within the last hour keep in mind that he will accept leadership between Hijr Al Aswad and Maqam e Ibrahim,
  • Sunan Abi Dawud, Hadith no. 4286

The Prophet ﷺ said that:
  • There will be a dispute after the death of a ruler.
  • A man from Madinah will flee to Makkah.
  • People from Makkah will bring him out unwillingly.
  • They will give him bayʿah (pledge allegiance) between the Black Stone (al-Hajar al-Aswad) and Maqām Ibrāhīm.
  • An army will be sent against him from Syria.
  • That army will be swallowed by the earth in the desert of Baydā’.

Indeed.

Current conflict is also reminding me of this hadith.

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