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Aravinda de Silva vs Inzamam-ul-Haq?

Inzi never self destructed. Talent refers to your skills, abilities and the things you are capable of achieving, it doesn't actually mean you will achieve them.


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That's what I am saying.. talent is just a term to glorify underachievers. You can say even Tendulkar underachieved with the talent he had.. it's just a term with no meaning.

Is Imran taking into account all the things required to be successful when he said Inzy underachieved ? May be because of his talent, he overachieved because he didn't have good fitness, focus, ability to apply himself for longer periods etc.
 
Dont compare apples with oranges. One average in 40s , other 50 for their respective countries.
 
As some have pointed out that some wanna be Lankans (but actual Indians) here are too quick to make a call in favor of Arvinda despite the fact that Inzi has a much superior record in most countries...actually only behind De Silva in Australia and leading by 14-15 average in at least two countries!

Yet, if one looks at the same for Inzi vs (Insert Any Top Indian player here), despite similar kind of average gaps or closer in most countries, he will be 'Leagues Above Inzi' somehow...LOL what a country

That is not true...let us look at two of India's greatest players who played alongside Inzi...

Sachin Tendulkar:

Aus: 53.20
NZ: 49.52
Eng: 54.31
SA : 46.44
WI: 47.69

Rahul Dravid:

Aus: 41.64
Eng: 68.80
SA: 29.71
NZ: 63.83
WI: 65.69

If you look at the above records, Sachin does not have any anomaly in his overseas record, he averages at least 40 in every country he has played.

Rahul Dravid even though had a poor time in SA (Similar to Inzi), his records in other countries are way superior to Inzi...So no over reaction there. Dravid and Sachin were for sure better than Inzi overall.
 
That is not true...let us look at two of India's greatest players who played alongside Inzi...

Sachin Tendulkar:

Aus: 53.20
NZ: 49.52
Eng: 54.31
SA : 46.44
WI: 47.69

Rahul Dravid:

Aus: 41.64
Eng: 68.80
SA: 29.71
NZ: 63.83
WI: 65.69

If you look at the above records, Sachin does not have any anomaly in his overseas record, he averages at least 40 in every country he has played.

Rahul Dravid even though had a poor time in SA (Similar to Inzi), his records in other countries are way superior to Inzi...So no over reaction there. Dravid and Sachin were for sure better than Inzi overall.




Just in the typical Indian way, you twisted the words...did I say Inzi did not have an anomaly?

I basically said that despite Inzi leading De Silva in most countries (and in few cases by huge margins), most Indians are happy to call De Silva better than Inzi and I think a few even said De Silva is in a better class/league than Inzi!

Yet, when it comes to Inzi with any Indian batter even Mohinder, Vishwanath, Vengsarkar etc. (for example)...Inzi is still discussed as inferior than them despite him having better records. So he loses there too. Is he capable to being better than any, maybe an Indian Number 12?

Dravid's SA record is horrible, even worse than Inzi and even the Aussie record is only so so...yet most (including you will not hold that against him)...as for Teenda, even though he averages 47 - 50 in most countries, it is not as if Inzi averages 20's in all those as well. Also, for once in a lifetime batter and one of the best ever, actually it is Dravid whose records in England, NZ, and WI are really worth something much better than once in a lifetime batter sahb
 
And don't even get me started on Tendulkar's 40 some average against Pakistan which was actually in the 30's till the 2004-05 series when he brought his average to some respectable level...even then he was overshadowed by his own teammates. If that is not an anomaly then what is?
 
We should ask another question, who was the better man of crisis and better batsman for his team under pressure? Who actually scored runs for his team when it mattered most and took his team home? Who has more MOTM awards?
 
You seem to be another SL fanboy who just considers SL players to be the "best they have ever seen" .. there are many on this forum.

Inzy had a class with him.. which Aravinda could never have had. Playing in a rubbish team doesn't make you great. It's not Inzy's fault that he played in a great team.

Also, Inzy's 1992 WC SF was the best WC innings there could be.. though Aravinda also played good knocks in 1996.

Not fair and not true. The irony is, despite being SL, most of my favourite players were Pakistani. Shoaib Akthar, Wasim Akram, Saeed Anwar (whom I rate far ahead of Inzy). Everything I stated was a fact. I liked De Silva not bcos he was Sri Lankan but bcos like Saeed Anwar he was a very stylish batsman to watch. His timing was immaculate.
 
Yeah, dropped first ball.. a chance innings.. nothing serious. Also, any one can score a hundred against any team.. the point is what was his average in Aus/SA/WI etc.

So what if he was dropped. So many great players including Lara have been dropped before going on to score fabulous innings its part of the game. How can you call this a chance innings?? Its an incredible performance. Stop hating
 
So what if he was dropped. So many great players including Lara have been dropped before going on to score fabulous innings its part of the game. How can you call this a chance innings?? Its an incredible performance. Stop hating

I don't rate chance innings higher.. but my point wasn't based on that. my point is, anyone can score a hundred once in a while.. what was his average ? Ashraful has 2 ODI hundreds against Aus and SA.. so we can post videos of those two innings countering the argument that he never destroyed these attacks ?
 
Inzy's record seems much better.

De Silva has a superior average against Australia - the best team easily out of the 5. Also De Silva was around long before Inzy. When he played NZ - he had to face Richard Hadlee in his prime. Inzy never faced him. De silva also played for a far weaker side so did not have the stability at the other end.

Statistics are misleading for me and do not reveal anything. Jaywardene has better stats thaN De Silva I wrecken - but no way was he better. I am certain he has better stats than Inzy but I am not entirely convinced that he is a better batsman than the latter. Even if Jayawardene has been underappreciated.
 
De Silva has a superior average against Australia - the best team easily out of the 5. Also De Silva was around long before Inzy. When he played NZ - he had to face Richard Hadlee in his prime. Inzy never faced him. De silva also played for a far weaker side so did not have the stability at the other end.

Statistics are misleading for me and do not reveal anything. Jaywardene has better stats thaN De Silva I wrecken - but no way was he better. I am certain he has better stats than Inzy but I am not entirely convinced that he is a better batsman than the latter. Even if Jayawardene has been underappreciated.

Didn't Inzy face WI attack of Walsh and Ambrose ?
 
I don't rate chance innings higher.. but my point wasn't based on that. my point is, anyone can score a hundred once in a while.. what was his average ? Ashraful has 2 ODI hundreds against Aus and SA.. so we can post videos of those two innings countering the argument that he never destroyed these attacks ?

Fair point. But the innings at the gabba was incredible. Infact De Silva has played some truly world class innings against AUS. Its not just a one off.

His 107* in WC final vs Aus - incredible

His 92 (94 balls ) in 2003 WC vs Aus (aged 38) smashing Brett Lee all over centurion

Your probably not aware of this match winning gem against Australia either. Nor are you aware of any of the other SL players in the side because they were all rubbish, which makes it all the more impressive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ddyhXGWj2E

De silva was more of a match winner for me and a better pressure player. Inzy was fortunate to be surrounded by so many top players and not a great player of pressure for me or a regular match winner
 
Fair point. But the innings at the gabba was incredible. Infact De Silva has played some truly world class innings against AUS. Its not just a one off.

His 107* in WC final vs Aus - incredible

His 92 (94 balls ) in 2003 WC vs Aus (aged 38) smashing Brett Lee all over centurion

Your probably not aware of this match winning gem against Australia either. Nor are you aware of any of the other SL players in the side because they were all rubbish, which makes it all the more impressive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ddyhXGWj2E

De silva was more of a match winner for me and a better pressure player. Inzy was fortunate to be surrounded by so many top players and not a great player of pressure for me or a regular match winner

I rate Desilva's 107 in WC final probably the best innings played in a WC, but finally average tells some story.. which he didn't have great numbers to show.
 
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Form the period of 1994 to 1998, Arvinda was outstanding, particularly in ODI; but apart from that, he was not that consistent & often threw his wicket in over aggression. Despite those brilliant 5-6 years, Harry averages only about 35 in ODI & 43 in Tests. Whereas Inzi was much more consistent for most part of his career.

I think both underachieved, but none more than Inzi. With better run (record) apatite, lifestyle & diet habit; Inzi could have ended his career with a Test average of 55+ & ODI average of 45+. Brilliant big match player. It's only himself to blame not to be ranked along with the ATGs.
 
Form the period of 1994 to 1998, Arvinda was outstanding, particularly in ODI; but apart from that, he was not that consistent & often threw his wicket in over aggression. Despite those brilliant 5-6 years, Harry averages only about 35 in ODI & 43 in Tests. Whereas Inzi was much more consistent for most part of his career.

I think both underachieved, but none more than Inzi. With better run (record) apatite, lifestyle & diet habit; Inzi could have ended his career with a Test average of 55+ & ODI average of 45+. Brilliant big match player. It's only himself to blame not to be ranked along with the ATGs.

Even greats didn't average 55+ in Test matches. For Inzy to average that, he should have had more talent than those greats if you allow for other factors like run/record appetite and lifestyle.. which other greats had kept in check.
 
Even greats didn't average 55+ in Test matches. For Inzy to average that, he should have had more talent than those greats if you allow for other factors like run/record appetite and lifestyle.. which other greats had kept in check.

Even with his poor fitness & throughout career struggle for over weight, his poor running between the wickets & lack of stamina, he averages almost 50 (actually 50+ with PAK). I do feel Inzi could & should have added at least 4-5 runs with his average to justify his talent. For his bulky stature & "go slow" attitude throughout the people has made fun of him, but he could bat & bat brilliantly. Also, I don't think Inzi had the appetite for runs like his fellow countryman Zaheer or Javed. Definitely the talent was there, but not the hunger.
 
Even with his poor fitness & throughout career struggle for over weight, his poor running between the wickets & lack of stamina, he averages almost 50 (actually 50+ with PAK). I do feel Inzi could & should have added at least 4-5 runs with his average to justify his talent. For his bulky stature & "go slow" attitude throughout the people has made fun of him, but he could bat & bat brilliantly. Also, I don't think Inzi had the appetite for runs like his fellow countryman Zaheer or Javed. Definitely the talent was there, but not the hunger.

Inzi had as much talent as anybody. He just lacked in the application department at times and sadly, never lacked in the paratha eating department. :inzi
 
Even with his poor fitness & throughout career struggle for over weight, his poor running between the wickets & lack of stamina, he averages almost 50 (actually 50+ with PAK). I do feel Inzi could & should have added at least 4-5 runs with his average to justify his talent. For his bulky stature & "go slow" attitude throughout the people has made fun of him, but he could bat & bat brilliantly. Also, I don't think Inzi had the appetite for runs like his fellow countryman Zaheer or Javed. Definitely the talent was there, but not the hunger.

As I said, for him to average 55+, he should have had more talent than Ponting or Tendulkar, Lara etc. who managed other parts of their lives better than Inzy.
 
As I said, for him to average 55+, he should have had more talent than Ponting or Tendulkar, Lara etc. who managed other parts of their lives better than Inzy.

These greats didn't average over 55+ for some of their own draw backs or bad patch may be, what's that to do with Inzi? Kallis, Barrington & Sangakara averages over 55 & do you think that they are better than the 3 you mentioned because of that? Or for that matter, do you think Bradman was 160% better than Hammond or Compton, his contemporary 2 other greats? Why are you bringing direct comparison?

I am not personalizing anyone, what I am trying to say is that despite that sort of fitness, appetite & stamina, Inzi averaged over 50 for PAK, could have added another 5 to his average, both in Test & ODI had he not been run out around 50 times in Internationals, not missed thousands of extra runs for his poor running & not struggled for breather after a long stay in the ground. He had so many 50sin ODI but not that many 100s, one major reason apart from batting 4 or 5 was his body couldn't have supported him; countless time I have seen Inzi blasting out after scoring brilliant 70s & 80s.
 
These greats didn't average over 55+ for some of their own draw backs or bad patch may be, what's that to do with Inzi? Kallis, Barrington & Sangakara averages over 55 & do you think that they are better than the 3 you mentioned because of that? Or for that matter, do you think Bradman was 160% better than Hammond or Compton, his contemporary 2 other greats? Why are you bringing direct comparison?

I am not personalizing anyone, what I am trying to say is that despite that sort of fitness, appetite & stamina, Inzi averaged over 50 for PAK, could have added another 5 to his average, both in Test & ODI had he not been run out around 50 times in Internationals, not missed thousands of extra runs for his poor running & not struggled for breather after a long stay in the ground. He had so many 50sin ODI but not that many 100s, one major reason apart from batting 4 or 5 was his body couldn't have supported him; countless time I have seen Inzi blasting out after scoring brilliant 70s & 80s.

Sanga can't be compared because he started improving late in early 2000s.. Inzy, Lara, Ponting, Tendulkar were almost of the same era of 90s.

Do you want to say that had Inzy been slimmer, he would have been more successful than the above players ?
 
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Sanga can't be compared because he started improving late in early 2000s.. Inzy, Lara, Ponting, Tendulkar were almost of the same era of 90s.

Do you want to say that had Inzy been slimmer, he would have been more successful than the above players ?


You are twisting words (& I am not surprised at all). Took out Sanga as he started later, but avoided mentioning Kallis. There is a big difference between being slim & being fit. Also, I hope you understand what it means "Hungry", "Appetite" for a batsman. What you are trying to get out of me is "If Inzi was a better batsman than the 3 had he been fit" - I am not falling into the idiocy trap of comparing between some of the all time greats. Let me ask you, Gavasker averages higher than Viv Richards & both started career at the same time (Ok, Viv 3 years later). What do you think? Who was more successful, better batsman? Again, all 4 started career at same time (5-7 years apart) & Barrington average good 10+ than Gravaney, Dexter & May. What does it tell?

Had he been slim, would he achieved more? I don't know, because that could have affected his power & balance. What I can feel is, Inzi under achieved for not being at the best of what should be a batsman's fitness (not slim, fit). It cost him, his running partners & eventually his team & he was satisfied with that, as it seems. Had he been more hungry, or "Statistics" concerned, I am sure, he won't have missed so many runs for his poor running, at least would have tried to improve.
 
You are twisting words (& I am not surprised at all). Took out Sanga as he started later, but avoided mentioning Kallis. There is a big difference between being slim & being fit. Also, I hope you understand what it means "Hungry", "Appetite" for a batsman. What you are trying to get out of me is "If Inzi was a better batsman than the 3 had he been fit" - I am not falling into the idiocy trap of comparing between some of the all time greats. Let me ask you, Gavasker averages higher than Viv Richards & both started career at the same time (Ok, Viv 3 years later). What do you think? Who was more successful, better batsman? Again, all 4 started career at same time (5-7 years apart) & Barrington average good 10+ than Gravaney, Dexter & May. What does it tell?

Had he been slim, would he achieved more? I don't know, because that could have affected his power & balance. What I can feel is, Inzi under achieved for not being at the best of what should be a batsman's fitness (not slim, fit). It cost him, his running partners & eventually his team & he was satisfied with that, as it seems. Had he been more hungry, or "Statistics" concerned, I am sure, he won't have missed so many runs for his poor running, at least would have tried to improve.

By slimmer, I actually meant fitter.

I didn't avoid mentioning Kallis, it was just that he isn't generally regarded in the same category of the other three, but yes you can count him also, though he came in the scene also in early 2000s.

BTW, it's not an idiocy trap, my question is pretty clear. Do you think he was more talented than the people I mentioned above, because if you increase appetite and other external factors in case of Inzy, I am assuming you will increase it to the level of these people.

Once these things are made almost equal, Inzy with the same talent would average around 52-53. If we want him to average 55+, he would have to be surely more talented than these people.
 
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By slimmer, I actually meant fitter.

I didn't avoid mentioning Kallis, it was just that he isn't generally regarded in the same category of the other three.


But, by the average logic, Kallis is more successful than the other 3, isn't he? See, every player has his own specialty, which can't be justified by average only. Inzi could have averaged 10 more, still I would have kept him under Lara, at least. & even had he averaged 5 less, still I would have rated him better Test player than VVS or Azhar & the best Test batsman from PAK, because that man made his scores count. Apart from Javed, nobody ever with more than 5,000 Test runs maintained a career average over 50 always. Inz gave a damn regarding his stats & in his last Test innings, what he had to do was play out last 15 min. & remain NO, his career average would have remained over 50. He played a casual shot & got out - but that's Inzamam; unfashionable, unspectacular, casual, lazy but brilliant.

Some of the innings/shots that Inzi played would put him among the all time bests ever, but then he was a very poor starter, pathetically vulnerable in his first 30 minutes for someone of his stature. At a time Lara was averaging over 60 yet I believed he was at least 10 short of where he should be & then came his bad patch. Almost for 5-6 years in his late 20s (when normally batsmen are at their peak), Lara averaged probably under 30, when he should have maintained at least 60, which actually pulled his career under 50; then he came back & his penultimate innings was a splendid double ton - he could have easily played for another 2-3 years. Sometimes around 2005, I think Panta's average crossed 60, he could have easily finished career with 58; but he dragged his career by at least 2 unnecessary years. From my past experience, I avoid writing anything but praise for SRT, but had he not get his 100th ton, chances were that his Test average could fall down lower than even 50, because if required, he would have crawled for another 4 years to get that. Where a batsman ends his career average doesn't reflect everything.
 
But, by the average logic, Kallis is more successful than the other 3, isn't he? See, every player has his own specialty, which can't be justified by average only. Inzi could have averaged 10 more, still I would have kept him under Lara, at least. & even had he averaged 5 less, still I would have rated him better Test player than VVS or Azhar & the best Test batsman from PAK, because that man made his scores count. Apart from Javed, nobody ever with more than 5,000 Test runs maintained a career average over 50 always. Inz gave a damn regarding his stats & in his last Test innings, what he had to do was play out last 15 min. & remain NO, his career average would have remained over 50. He played a casual shot & got out - but that's Inzamam; unfashionable, unspectacular, casual, lazy but brilliant.

Some of the innings/shots that Inzi played would put him among the all time bests ever, but then he was a very poor starter, pathetically vulnerable in his first 30 minutes for someone of his stature. At a time Lara was averaging over 60 yet I believed he was at least 10 short of where he should be & then came his bad patch. Almost for 5-6 years in his late 20s (when normally batsmen are at their peak), Lara averaged probably under 30, when he should have maintained at least 60, which actually pulled his career under 50; then he came back & his penultimate innings was a splendid double ton - he could have easily played for another 2-3 years. Sometimes around 2005, I think Panta's average crossed 60, he could have easily finished career with 58; but he dragged his career by at least 2 unnecessary years. From my past experience, I avoid writing anything but praise for SRT, but had he not get his 100th ton, chances were that his Test average could fall down lower than even 50, because if required, he would have crawled for another 4 years to get that. Where a batsman ends his career average doesn't reflect everything.

I agree with most of what you wrote, except the part that comparison with VVS, in terms of making the score count. If I didn't get you wrong, just like to point out that VVS has been the best batsman from Asia in terms of making the score count in terms of scoring them when the team "needed" it most. I don't agree with the criterion though, but if we are in that paradigm, there is probably none better than VVS.
 
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Inzi was a good Tier-2 batsman.
Aravinda was a very good Tier-2 batsman.
 
Inzy overall.

Both were underachievers. Aravinda was the more destructive player when on song, but Inzy was more consistent. For a player who started playing in the early 80s, Aravinda had high strike rates, much higher than Inzy - he was a high voltage player, but apart from the few years during the mid 90s, he was never consistent. But if I have to pay to watch, it would be Aravinda.
 
In tests neither batsmen are that special. Aravinda's test record is ordinary and Inzamam is no closer to being a test great than Sangakkara is.

A batsman who averaged 50 in Tests(excluding exhibition matches) despite batting in an era with many ATG bowlers (where there was an even contest between bat and ball) is pretty special to me.
 
De Silva was Shakib of SL back in the day, spent most of his time rebuilding innings with mediocre players. Since 96 till he retired (Vaas,Attapattu,Sanath, Murali, Kalu, Mahela era) he's averaged 53 in Test and 37 in ODI which was good for that era.
 
Inzamam was a better batsman . Its a clear cut fact. Aravinda though had his moments , but could not translate his talent to achieve more.
 
Inzamam was a better batsman . Its a clear cut fact. Aravinda though had his moments , but could not translate his talent to achieve more.

Arvinda was a match winner, he basically did what Mahela did but a bit more since SL was horrible back in the day, people in SL still rate him above Sanga and Mahela. Kapil dev's fav batsmen is Arvinda, Inzi was probably a better talent than Arvinda though.
 
that would be really hard to tell

but i would say that 1996 wc, gadhafi stadium had dew
so it kinda neutralized 40% of aussie bowling strength

however, on the whole I cant comment on this thread
 
Inzamam was a better batsman . Its a clear cut fact. Aravinda though had his moments , but could not translate his talent to achieve more.

Not a clear cut fact. Aravinda was easily better - probably the finest stroke maker of his generation and not a flat track bully unlike some. De Silva was fondly referred to as the most elegant stroke maker of his generation, Inzamam never was by any1.
 
Aravinda is an aggressive batsman. He likes to play his shots and takes a lot of risks.

Inzi is more solid and compact in defense. He had so much time to play even a 150k deliveries.

I prefer Aravinda only in ODI's over Inzi. Aravinda can score very briskly and he is a better runner between the wickets.

In Test matches, I definitely prefer Inzi.
 
Aravinda is an aggressive batsman. He likes to play his shots and takes a lot of risks.

Inzi is more solid and compact in defense. He had so much time to play even a 150k deliveries.

I prefer Aravinda only in ODI's over Inzi. Aravinda can score very briskly and he is a better runner between the wickets.

In Test matches, I definitely prefer Inzi.

Loool except Aravibda was the greatest player of fast bowling the world has ever seen just ask Brett Lee and Mohammed Zahid
 
Not a clear cut fact. Aravinda was easily better - probably the finest stroke maker of his generation and not a flat track bully unlike some. De Silva was fondly referred to as the most elegant stroke maker of his generation, Inzamam never was by any1.




Say whaaaat? Can I have some of that you just consumed? For a man of his height and size, Inzi was still deemed quite a stroke maker!

As for the flat track bully comment, that has been debunked twice as well:

Inzi home and away:
Career averages
Span Mat Runs HS Bat Av 100 Wkts BBI Bowl Av 5 Ct St Ave Diff
unfiltered 1992-2007 120 8830 329 49.60 25 0 - - 0 81 0 - Profile
filtered 1992-2007 71 5121 200* 46.98 14 0 - - 0 52 0 -

Aravinda home and away:
Career averages
Span Mat Runs HS Bat Av 100 Wkts BBI Bowl Av 5 Ct St Ave Diff
unfiltered 1984-2002 93 6361 267 42.97 20 29 3/30 41.65 0 43 0 1.32 Profile
filtered 1984-2002 49 3071 267 36.12 9 13 3/50 52.92 0 22 0 -16.79


Inzi against countries where batting was challenging in those days:

Opposition team: Australia or England or New Zealand or South Africa or West Indies
home of opposition or neutral venue

Career averages
Span Mat Runs HS Bat Av 100 Wkts BBI Bowl Av 5 Ct St Ave Diff
unfiltered 1992-2007 120 8830 329 49.60 25 0 - - 0 81 0 - Profile
filtered 1992-2007 47 3238 148 42.05 8 - - - - 27 0

Aravinda against countries where batting was challenging in those days:

Opposition team: Australia or England or New Zealand or South Africa or West Indies
home of opposition or neutral venue

Career averages
Span Mat Runs HS Bat Av 100 Wkts BBI Bowl Av 5 Ct St Ave Diff
unfiltered 1984-2002 93 6361 267 42.97 20 29 3/30 41.65 0 43 0 1.32 Profile
filtered 1984-2002 25 1818 267 39.52 4 6 2/65 72.83 0 12 0 -33.31
 
Please read my comment carefully. Stop talking gibberish. I never said Inzamam was not a quality stroke maker - I did however say that Aravinda was a more elegant person and referred to by some as the MOST elegant/finest strokemaker of his generation - thats a fact - no1 ever said that about Inzy.


Stop relying on statistics and taking them out of context. Inzamam is a freezer- Pakistani's know this deep down. The 3 leading teams of the time were AUS, SA AND PAK.

Obviously Inzi couldn't play against PAK. But the most successful batsman against Pakistan is De Silva having amassed a record number of centuries against them (more than any other player). Meaning he dominated Abdul Qadir, Imran Khan, Wasim Akram (frequently lol) Waqar, Mushtaq Ahmed, Mohammed Zahid, Saqlain etc. Many of his great knocks were match winning and would see Inzamam Ul Haq doing absolutely nothing for his side during the same game.

AUSTRALIA - the best team of its time. Aravinda has played several match winning knocks against them. Most notably his match winning century in the final of the 96 WC of 107* against warne and mcgrath. He also massacred Australia again picking up man of the series award in 96 - playing some truly blistering match winning knocks against the best team in the world at the time. Many Australians including Warne, mcGrath, Taylor all hold him high regard and have cited that he was good enough to play for Australia. Inzamam by contrast was embarassingly rubbish against Australia despite playing for a world class side himself. De Silva was sheer class against Australia.

SOUTH AFRICA- INZAMAM rubbish again lol. De Silva never really played against them. His last match against them in the WC 2003 played an incredible match winning half century innings against them.

Inzamam's statistics are misleading and boosted by the fact that he played against weaker teams post millennium and for a mulit talented PAK side who had so many other great players- hence allowing Inzy to play at a steady pace to boost his career statistics bit never ever playing match winning team knocks like De Silva. De Silva retired after 2003 and was bizzarely dropped in the late 90s for non- cricketing reasons.


ARAVINDA DE SILVA WAS DURING THE MID 90S FOR A RELATIVE PERIOD OF TIME THE #1 BATSMAN IN THE WORLD. EVEN AHEAD OF LARA AND TENDULKAR. FACT!

INZAMAM WAS NEVER EVER THE #1 BATSMAN IN THE WORLD - NOT EVEN CLOSE - ALTHOUGH HE WAS A TALENTED BATSMAN - FACT

I suppose has had decent longevity but talent wise he isn't in the same league as De Silva. Its a shame the latter wasn't born in Pakistan his career average would of been much higher, especially with someone like Imran to mentor him.

Inzamam is great but slightly overrated.

Aravinda is greater and slightly underrated. There was a time during the 90s where he was outperforming even Lara and Tendulkar and was the worlds best despite playing for a weak SL side with little support. Inzamam was lucky.
 
Desilva did more damage to us than Sanga ever did. Sanga was accumulator but Desliva and jayasuriya did the actual damage. Inzamam was morel like Sanga than Desilva, more in your face impactful.
 
Aravinda

Aus 38.63
Eng 37.91
NZ 45.76
SA 30.50
WI 40.0


Inzi

Aus 30.87
Eng 42.50
NZ 59.58
SA 31.78
WI 57.63

Inzy never had to face his own bowlers but De Silva did and perform splendidly. Pakistan was easily the best or 2nd best bowling attack in De Silva's time.
 
I am quite sure if DeSilva was asked, he would not put himself above or equal to Inzi...

I say DeSilva was bigger than Tendulkar, because of that century in the final; Tendulkar could not score such a knock in a clutch WC final like that if he was born again and again. Let's see how you can debate that!
 
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Inzi by far in tests. Aravinda by a small margin in ODIs.

I am quite sure if DeSilva was asked, he would not put himself above or equal to Inzi...

I say DeSilva was bigger than Tendulkar, because of that century in the final; Tendulkar could not score such a knock in a clutch WC final like that if he was born again and again. Let's see how you can debate that!

I don't know why we need to be so insecure to bring Tendulkar into every debate. It's just a shame we have not produced a batsman even close to him.
 
Both. They were excellent players of fast bowlers although sometimes would go inconsistent which would show in their averages outside asia.

Could play short pitched deliveries very well. Masters of the pull shot. Desilva had a mean hook shot too. Also had a knack of performing at the right time and winning a nearly lost match
 
Overall its Inzy quite easily. In odis its close. Can go with anyone.
 
Inzi by far in tests. Aravinda by a small margin in ODIs.



I don't know why we need to be so insecure to bring Tendulkar into every debate. It's just a shame we have not produced a batsman even close to him.


Tendulkar is brought in to this debate because of a valid point, DeSilva was a bigger clutch and big match player than Tendulkar ever could be, that is a fact that anyone can see.

As for the bolded part above, I say BS, Hanif, Miandad, and even YK are just as good as any Indian batsman; some people buy in to hype created by Indian media and deluded fans in to thinking Tendulkar was some sub-human player, which he obviously was not!

He was a good run accumulator and that def counts for a lot especially for the long career he had but to try and make him better than any batsman out there, including Bradman in some Indians words, is seriously crazy!
 
Post 128 clearly deflated all doubts about DeSilva being a better Test Batsman based on any/all top criterias, now people wanna keep harping this and that, they can go on as they please!

Khagiyaan tai chawlaan maari jayo, sahnoon kih!
 
I saw both of them and I will take Inzzy here. I haven't checked all stats, but I think even stats will favor Inzzy.
 
Tendulkar is brought in to this debate because of a valid point, DeSilva was a bigger clutch and big match player than Tendulkar ever could be, that is a fact that anyone can see.

As for the bolded part above, I say BS, Hanif, Miandad, and even YK are just as good as any Indian batsman; some people buy in to hype created by Indian media and deluded fans in to thinking Tendulkar was some sub-human player, which he obviously was not!

He was a good run accumulator and that def counts for a lot especially for the long career he had but to try and make him better than any batsman out there, including Bradman in some Indians words, is seriously crazy!

But it has nothing to do with the topic of Inzy vs Aravinda. All it does is show our insecurity when it comes to Sachin.

Also lol @ Hanif, YK and Miandad being anywhere near Sachin/Gavaskar
 
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