Are boards to blame when their star players get injured whilst playing IPL before the World Cup?

[Snowflake]

Any players who gets injured playing a domestic T20 tournament right before the WC deserves absolutely no sympathy.

Also, the boards would be equally to blame if any of their star players miss the tournament.

 

[MenInG]

Any players who gets injured playing a domestic T20 tournament right before the WC deserves absolutely no sympathy.

Also, the boards would be equally to blame if any of their star players miss the tournament.

Good point by [MENTION=133986]Snowflake[/MENTION]

No one will remember if they did well in the IPL, the failure to represent their nation would be be very costly for them

The IPL window is what it is and agreed by all so no one can complain about it now but should they not have taken this into account?

 

[MenInG]

Kagiso Rabada played a lot of cricket for his country but knowing that, why did SA allow him to go and play in IPL?

 

[JattMaula]

Kagiso Rabada played a lot of cricket for his country but knowing that, why did SA allow him to go and play in IPL?

Because CSA aren't Australia? They can't buy out IPL contacts.

Rabada's is not seriously injured anyway.

 

[topspin]

Very good question.

I believe boards do not want their players to play in the IPL, however they feel powerless in front of the BCCI and also they do not want to be perceived as the enemy that stands in the way for players to earn six to seven figure (USD) deals - otherwise they probably would boycott their national sides.

I don't necessarily blame players for wanting to play in this year's IPL because they have short careers (usually 10-15 years) and most of them are only good enough to play in the premier domestic T20 competition while they are at their peak.

If the average IPL overseas player decides to skip IPL for a season, he may risk not getting selected again, so lets not stigmatise the players because lets be honest most of us would the same if we where in the same shoes.

 

[MenInG]

Because CSA aren't Australia? They can't buy out IPL contacts.

Rabada's is not seriously injured anyway.

Proteas team manager, Dr Mohammed Moosajee, says Rabada’s recall is precautionary based on his history: “Kagiso experienced stiffness in his lower back a few days ago and was taken for scans for further investigation. The scan results, combined with further assessment by our physiotherapist Craig Govender who is fortunately in Delhi, led the CSA medical committee to the decision to withdraw him from the remainder of the IPL. Kagiso has a history with back injuries and the CSA medical team is taking the best measures to ensure he is fully fit for the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup starting this month. He will consult with a back specialist upon his return and proceed with a treatment and rehab programme.”

 

[jadaja]

Players can get injured playing in any t20 league or county cricket.You cannot wrap in cotton wool all the time.Stop blaming IPL.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Any players who gets injured playing a domestic T20 tournament right before the WC deserves absolutely no sympathy.

Also, the boards would be equally to blame if any of their star players miss the tournament.

You are right. No one should sympathise with such players. You are one of the best bowler in the world and you have chosen to play in aTamasha League just before the World Cup for some easy money. Now please don't cry if your country suffers because of you in the World Cup.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Proteas team manager, Dr Mohammed Moosajee, says Rabada’s recall is precautionary based on his history: “Kagiso experienced stiffness in his lower back a few days ago and was taken for scans for further investigation. The scan results, combined with further assessment by our physiotherapist Craig Govender who is fortunately in Delhi, led the CSA medical committee to the decision to withdraw him from the remainder of the IPL. Kagiso has a history with back injuries and the CSA medical team is taking the best measures to ensure he is fully fit for the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup starting this month. He will consult with a back specialist upon his return and proceed with a treatment and rehab programme.”

Fast bowlers who are prone to injuries should be extra cautious and should at least avoid playing in these leagues just before the World Cup.

 

[Titan24]

I might be able to understand where Steyn was coming from (Last few months or years of his international career so he dont want to miss out on opportunities to generate income) however, Rabada is just 23 and he would have gotten a lot of opportunities in the future to play in the leagues.

Playing a long league in the WC year and that too just before the WC in mind boggling to say the least. He and board both should have prioritized things according to importance.

He might still be fit for the WC but that cant hide poor decision making on Rabada's and the CSA's part.

 

[jadaja]

You are right. No one should sympathise with such players. You are one of the best bowler in the world and you have chosen to play in aTamasha League just before the World Cup for some easy money. Now please don't cry if your country suffers because of you in the World Cup.

Injuries are part of any sportman's life, he could get injured while just jogging.It is his right to earn the money why are you judging and demeaning him.He has done nothing wrong, if he is injured and cannot play it is tough luck.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Injuries are part of any sportman's life, he could get injured while just jogging.It is his right to earn the money why are you judging and demeaning him.He has done nothing wrong, if he is injured and cannot play it is tough luck.

I think everyone knows injuries are part of the game so you are not telling us something new and special here.

Have you ever heard about rotation policy of bowlers in cricket? Why do they do that? Some bowlers used to skip useless matches just so they can play in important matches. So what's wrong in asking your main bowlers to skip some pyjama league matches to remain fit for an all important world cup?

May be world cup is just another cup for you but not for us. Every board and fan wants his key players to remain fit. I know you have to defend Rabada here because you love IPL but you should try to think logically here.

If everyone starts thinking like you then nobody will be left to play. I am not sure whether you watch wrestling or not but there also you will see wrestlers rejecting money/contracts for their health.

 

[RainMan_]

This abomination called IPL is like a cancer. If proper measures aren't taken to cure this disease it will eventually kill this beautiful sport.

Can't believe that this circus is still going on when wc is almost knocking on the door. Pathetic from icc for allowing this to happen. It is indeed a spineless sold out organization.

 

[MenInG]

This abomination called IPL is like a cancer. If proper measures aren't taken to cure this disease it will eventually kill this beautiful sport.

Can't believe that this circus is still going on when wc is almost knocking on the door. Pathetic from icc for allowing this to happen. It is indeed a spineless sold out organization.

No one is putting a gun on the heads of players or boards to send their players there.

 

[jadaja]

I think everyone knows injuries are part of the game so you are not telling us something new and special here.

Have you ever heard about rotation policy of bowlers in cricket? Why do they do that? Some bowlers used to skip useless matches just so they can play in important matches. So what's wrong in asking your main bowlers to skip some pyjama league matches to remain fit for an all important world cup?

May be world cup is just another cup for you but not for us. Every board and fan wants his key players to remain fit. I know you have to defend Rabada here because you love IPL but you should try to think logically here.

If everyone starts thinking like you then nobody will be left to play. I am not sure whether you watch wrestling or not but there also you will see wrestlers rejecting money/contracts for their health.

World Cup may be important for you.But earning money is more important for Rabada, you are not feeding his family.It is his livelyhood.He is entitled to use his talent to enhance his earning powers.He is playing cricket not football in IPL.

You are not entitled to judge anyone based on his willingness to play certain tournament, it may be silly in your eyes.Why should Rabada forfeit a million dollars on account of something.If he is injured or wants to take rest it is upto him.

Rotation policy is in effect in IPL too.There are only four foregin players allowed .That is reason why Rababda was pulled out of IPL after first sign of injury.Just because of world cup, IPL cannot be shut down.

If everyone starts thinking like you, players will never get a chance to earn.They are living people who have needs and wants.They all know they have very short shelf life .Stop being selfish and think from player point of view also.They know their bodies very well and better than you.They know what to do if they feel they need to rest they will rest.

 

[RainMan_]

No one is putting a gun on the heads of players or boards to send their players there.

I agree with the fact that it's the players who r risking it. If they wished they could've just simply slipped the tournament.

However my friend, we should keep in mind that they r doing to earn a huge amount of money.

It's just like performance enhancing drugs. Players will always opt to take these drugs to enhance their performance if there is no punishment involved.

It's exactly the same case here. Players will obviously try to earn as much as possible. But its the duty of respective authority, in this case icc, to make sure that players don't get the chance to play these useless leagues just before a major tournament like wc. Icc should've banned all sorts of domestic leagues 3/5 months prior to the start of the wc.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

World Cup may be important for you.But earning money is more important for Rabada, you are not feeding his family.It is his livelyhood.He is entitled to use his talent to enhance his earning powers.He is playing cricket not football in IPL.

You are not entitled to judge anyone based on his willingness to play certain tournament, it may be silly in your eyes.Why should Rabada forfeit a million dollars on account of something.If he is injured or wants to take rest it is upto him.

Rotation policy is in effect in IPL too.There are only four foregin players allowed .That is reason why Rababda was pulled out of IPL after first sign of injury.Just because of world cup, IPL cannot be shut down.

If everyone starts thinking like you, players will never get a chance to earn.They are living people who have needs and wants.They all know they have very short shelf life .Stop being selfish and think from player point of view also.They know their bodies very well and better than you.They know what to do if they feel they need to rest they will rest.

It seems you know about Rabada's body and family more than him lol. Calm down. I can and I will criticise his decision to play in the IPL just before the world cup. Not sure why you have to take it to your heart, act like his grandmother and stop people from criticising him here?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I agree with the fact that it's the players who r risking it. If they wished they could've just simply slipped the tournament.

However my friend, we should keep in mind that they r doing to earn a huge amount of money.

It's just like performance enhancing drugs. Players will always opt to take these drugs to enhance their performance if there is no punishment involved.

It's exactly the same case here. Players will obviously try to earn as much as possible. But its the duty of respective authority, in this case icc, to make sure that players don't get the chance to play these useless leagues just before a major tournament like wc. Icc should've banned all sorts of domestic leagues 3/5 months prior to the start of the wc.

OP is saying the same thing. Players are risking it themselves for money so why should we sympathise with them?

 

[jadaja]

I agree with the fact that it's the players who r risking it. If they wished they could've just simply slipped the tournament.

However my friend, we should keep in mind that they r doing to earn a huge amount of money.

It's just like performance enhancing drugs. Players will always opt to take these drugs to enhance their performance if there is no punishment involved.

It's exactly the same case here. Players will obviously try to earn as much as possible. But its the duty of respective authority, in this case icc, to make sure that players don't get the chance to play these useless leagues just before a major tournament like wc. Icc should've banned all sorts of domestic leagues 3/5 months prior to the start of the wc.

Are you serious, IPL is being held same time every year. It is not their fault that ICC has world cup in June this year. So for sake of two or three players from every country (who are going to part of world cup) you want to deny 100 other players their chance to play and earn money.

Why are people jealous if players make money.

 

[JattMaula]

Good point by [MENTION=133986]Snowflake[/MENTION]

No one will remember if they did well in the IPL, the failure to represent their nation would be be very costly for them

I will remember this glorious summer when Rabada finally delivered Delhi to the promised land of knock-outs.

 

[jadaja]

It seems you know about Rabada's body and family more than him lol. Calm down. I can and I will criticise his decision to play in the IPL just before the world cup. Not sure why you have to take it to your heart, act like his grandmother and stop people from criticising him here?

I am not taking to it heart, I find it hilarious to hear people like you who think it is okay to comment on other people's right to earn their livelyhood.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Are you serious, IPL is being held same time every year. It is not their fault that ICC has world cup in June this year. So for sake of two or three players from every country (who are going to part of world cup) you want to deny 100 other players their chance to play and earn money.

Why are people jealous if players make money.

Lol so those who want players to remain fit for national duties are jealous? And those who want to see players playing 200 useless games every year and get injured actually care about those players? Please pass whatever you are smoking here.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I am not taking to it heart, I find it hilarious to hear people like you who think it is okay to comment on other people's right to earn their livelyhood.

And I find it hilarious to see some self appointed secretaries of these players here. I mean if I don't have a right to comment on their livelyhood who appointed you as their secretary here?

This is an open forum. People can criticise players, their decisions here. If you are stopping people from voicing their opinion here then you are actually breaking one of the rules of the forum which you agreed to before signing up. You can contact the mods to know more.

 

[Abu_Hamza]

It has become a trend to blame IPL for anything and everything. The reality is that one has no right to blame IPL or the players if they choose to play for it as they all are professional players and they better know that whats better for them in sense of financial security or other. Ask David Warner or Steven Smith.

 

[GenericBrand]

I think a good alternative would be to hold the IPL after the World Cup

 

[Rana]

World Cup may be important for you.But earning money is more important for Rabada, you are not feeding his family.It is his livelyhood.He is entitled to use his talent to enhance his earning powers.He is playing cricket not football in IPL.

You are not entitled to judge anyone based on his willingness to play certain tournament, it may be silly in your eyes.Why should Rabada forfeit a million dollars on account of something.If he is injured or wants to take rest it is upto him.

Rotation policy is in effect in IPL too.There are only four foregin players allowed .That is reason why Rababda was pulled out of IPL after first sign of injury.Just because of world cup, IPL cannot be shut down.

If everyone starts thinking like you, players will never get a chance to earn.They are living people who have needs and wants.They all know they have very short shelf life .Stop being selfish and think from player point of view also.They know their bodies very well and better than you.They know what to do if they feel they need to rest they will rest.

“Your not feeding his family”

Yeah I guess we can’t feed his family pieces of gold for breakfast instead of weetabix.

 

[USofA]

I think a good alternative would be to hold the IPL after the World Cup

The ICC knew about 12....yes 12 years ago that IPL will be played in this general window. Yet they decided to schedule it right after.

 

[Mp812]

Players like Rabada make like 300k US$$ by playing for 1.5 months. Not many players will let go off that kind of $$$ knowing well that if they perform well at IPL they can get same contract next year and this is based on indivdual performance , not team performance.
For these players this is their retirement money when they retire and they do retire early by age 40 at most. No one is going to compensate them their missed $$$ if they skip IPL, infact they might loose next years contract

Playing in Worldcup may get them some fame and some money ( that is only if and if they win it or else no one will remember he left hefty contract to play Wcup).
Also World cup wont be held every year like IPL.
Players like Abdevelliers, Macallum and many WI players know that their financial security lies in playing IPL for min 5 years and .Its obvious they chose to retire from national duty early to do that.
Also for current players, playing for country and performing for country may or may not get them a world cup spot.
Peter Handscomb has a one-day record that puts him among 2019’s best batsmen but did he get a world cup spot? Nope.
But performing in IPL will get them a spot next year( more $$) in many leagues not just IPL.
For players its financial practicality over false bravado show of patriotism.
Dwayne Bravo sure as hell is not having sleepless nights that he retired early and wont ever play for WI again, but would most probably have sleepless nights if he performed badly in one IPL season wondering if his next season contract was at stake.

Posters who like take the high ground pass the judgments on these players ( about principles and patriotism), the same fans will drop everything they do or planned to do in future,if they got 10% of what IPL pays those star players get for 50 days of cricket.
But when grapes are sour its called Tamasha league or pyjama league by some fans who cannot digest the importance of IPL and other leagues. These fans have failed to accept/adapt to changing cricket world model and its their fault, not the players fault..
I dont think any player gives a damn what such fans think nor do they probably care for their sympathy, afterall these fans wont pay them pension when they retire.

In future, it will surely happen that Worldcup will be readjusted to schedule it bit before or after from IPL.

 

[hitthestump]

The same concept applied for the Pakistanis where they happily played PSL then took the rest for the Australia series. We have to remember that these cricketers are human beings and that this sport only provides a short career for them.

 

[Saj]

Money talks, player walks.

IPL offers crazy money to players and Boards have no chance of stopping players playing.

 

[Hasan123]

Boards cant stop players from playing the IPL. Injuries are part and parcel of sport. Hopefully Rabada recovers asap.

 

[MenInG]

We are talking about a specific issue of IPL before World Cup here, surely commonsense should have been applied.

 

[MenInG]

Money talks, player walks.

IPL offers crazy money to players and Boards have no chance of stopping players playing.

Faf du Plessis's comment today on Steyn after he was ruled out from the World Cup -

So seems they have no control? sounds outrageous.

Unfortunately, it happened there in the IPL in those two games that he played there.

If he didn't get picked up to go to the IPL, who knows where Dale would have been right now. We can't control that. So it is important for me that we make sure that we are there for him because I know he's been trying hard to make sure he is ready to try and make an impact on which will be his last World Cup.

 

[Hasan123]

Steyn would have broke down during the tournament. How would he have played 9 games in 40 days with his shoulder ?

Injuries happen. They are part of sports.

 

[jagatk]

Faf du Plessis's comment today on Steyn after he was ruled out from the World Cup -

So seems they have no control? sounds outrageous.

So somebody forced Dale Steyn to sign up for the ipl. He wasn't even picked in the auction, he came in as a replacement. No one forces you to play in the ipl.

Also that little ball tamperer seems to be forgetting that Ngidi is out too and that happened in the first wc game, should players be rested in the first game then or is it not outrageous enough.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Morgan (fracture), Wood got injured playing warm up games. Some get injured during practice also. Remember how Mcgrath injured himself in a freaky way during warm up in 2005 series and it played a big role in Australia's loss in that series. Cricket is cricket. IPL or warm up or practice. You could hurt yourself in any place. Fast bowlers don't have a very long career like batsmen. So they have to make money where they can in a short span of time. You can't possibly blame them.If you force them, they will quit like ABDV and play IPL full time.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/engvaus/content/story/215050.html

 

[aloo paratha]

Steyn would have broke down during the tournament. How would he have played 9 games in 40 days with his shoulder ?

Injuries happen. They are part of sports.

Maybe if he had taken more rest his injury wouldn't have came back?

 

[jnaveen1980]

Maybe if he had taken more rest his injury wouldn't have came back?

lol Resting has nothing to do with injury. It can happen at any time. He has been playing for 14 years in all formats.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

lol Resting has nothing to do with injury. It can happen at any time. He has been playing for 14 years in all formats.

So resting has nothing to do with injury? Please elaborate further. From where do you get such 'gyan'?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

So somebody forced Dale Steyn to sign up for the ipl. He wasn't even picked in the auction, he came in as a replacement. No one forces you to play in the ipl.

Also that little ball tamperer seems to be forgetting that Ngidi is out too and that happened in the first wc game, should players be rested in the first game then or is it not outrageous enough.

Why do you IPL fans get so defensive and personal whenever someone criticises IPL? Just because Faf raised his concern regarding Steyn you started calling him little ball tamperer. May be because you can't call him jealous just like others. He also plays in IPL so his opinion should be taken more seriously isn't it?

 

[jonny darko]

for cricketers who worship money, bcci is their bhagwaan & ipl is their world cup.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

for cricketers who worship money, bcci is their bhagwaan & ipl is their world cup.

If this was Facebook, AB Devilliers would have liked your post.

 

[MenInG]

So somebody forced Dale Steyn to sign up for the ipl. He wasn't even picked in the auction, he came in as a replacement. No one forces you to play in the ipl.

Also that little ball tamperer seems to be forgetting that Ngidi is out too and that happened in the first wc game, should players be rested in the first game then or is it not outrageous enough.

Thats the curious part of Faf's statement "no control" - Surely CSA has control.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

It is upto the players. Nobody is forcing them to play. Rabada had stress fractures last year and still chose to play IPL ahead of the World Cup. Steyn chose to play despite having a troublesome shoulder.

 

[jagatk]

Thats the curious part of Faf's statement "no control" - Surely CSA has control.

They recalled rabada as a precaution, so they had enough control. Seems to me the ball tamperer is looking for excuses to avoid being blamed for losses.

 

[IAJ]

It is upto the players. Nobody is forcing them to play. Rabada had stress fractures last year and still chose to play IPL ahead of the World Cup. Steyn chose to play despite having a troublesome shoulder.

It should not be players choice all the time. When there is a major tournament coming up the respective Boards need to take the calls. Cricket is not like football where club cricket is so important. In cricket international cricket is the real deal.
So Steyn and Rabada should have been barred from playing league cricket. But money is also important for the players, so not an easy task for the involved parts.

 

[Smbhayi]

TBH IPL or any kind of matches are good practise any tournament, it always better than net session.. BTW you can be injured in net practice too..

 

[Smbhayi]

Faf du Plessis's comment today on Steyn after he was ruled out from the World Cup -

So seems they have no control? sounds outrageous.

lol Dale played two games and injured, good for them.. if he can't stand for 20 (40 combined) overs then how will he stand 50 overs.. look what happens SA last game?

 

[Mr.Q]

Why can’t anyone think from some of these players’ perspective? Money does matter. They don’t earn much playing for their countries. Steyn got an opportunity to play in the IPL before the WC so he took it. It’s not like he knew beforehand he’d miss the World Cup if he plays in the IPL. And Faf has no right to say what he said because he himself played in the IPL this year. Would he have said the same if Steyn was a member of CSK squad? I don’t think so.
He’s just frustrated as a captain.

 

[pratiktc]

TBF, listening to Faf's video interview, it was more like he was musing over unpredictability of fate rather than complaining or blaming IPL for the injury.

Frankly, on paper boards have control on whether to allow players to play in leagues or not, but it is limited to a certain extent.
In an economically weak country like SA where players have exit options like free-agency/county pathway, it is not prudent or fair to put any blanket bans or restrictions. The outcome of such high handedness could be severe in form of player revolts/exits

The solution forward would be in times where critically important tours/tournaments are upcoming, board has to sit down and discuss with contracted players (individually) as to how to find customized via media solutions which minimize risk and opportunity loss on both sides.

Certainly the solution has nothing to do with ICC or banning/suspending any league which are now a real and unavoidable part of World cricket and neither is onus entirely on player to abstain from playing over some outdated notion of patriotism

Even so, if

 

[Hasan123]

Maybe if he had taken more rest his injury wouldn't have came back?

The fact he is picking up injuries show his body can't cope with intentional cricket anymore.

Shoulder injuries like Steyns don't go away with rest.

 

[MenInG]

Dale Steyn was an important part of the SA squad for the World Cup - he should have never been allowed to play in such a high-intensity tournament as IPL ahead of the World Cup.

Unfortunately, most SA cricketers are losing their will to play for their country as witnessed by Kolpak desertions etc but the CSA needs to make sure this does not happen again.

 

[Captain caveman]

Money, money and money!
Winning a wc is a highlight of ones career that few will achieve. But it wont enable you to buy a mansion!
IPL money will for SA players.

 

[Executioner]

BCB denied Fizz IPL NOC for 2 years.

Also any Bangladesh cricketer can get a maximum of 2 NOCs per year. Shakib plays CPL and IPL. Riad in PSL and CPL. Tamim in PSL and UAE T10 league for example

 

[Captain caveman]

BCB denied Fizz IPL NOC for 2 years.

Also any Bangladesh cricketer can get a maximum of 2 NOCs per year. Shakib plays CPL and IPL. Riad in PSL and CPL. Tamim in PSL and UAE T10 league for example

Excellent by bcb!

 

[Mamoon]

IPL is part of international cricket now and cannot be grouped with other franchise leagues like PSL, BPL, CPL, BBL etc. who are nothing but meek imitations of the giant that the IPL is today.

In fact, it is pretty much international cricket in franchise form. The game stops for about 1.5 months and all big international players take part in what is the highest form of T20 cricket in the game today.

Cricket boards and supporters have to make peace with it now. Getting injured on IPL duty is no longer different to getting injured on international duty. Besides, the cricket boards always have the option of recalling their players.

India itself is at a bigger risk than other boards, because their star players will never be allowed to skip tournaments.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Dale Steyn has been getting injured time and again everywhere.

If someone blames it on 2 IPL matches, he’s really clueless.

Has he not played in IPL he would have himself injured in the net sessions or first few WC games. He’s just injury prone.

THE ENTIRE INDIAN TEAM PLAYED THE IPL too.

Stop crying about it.

 

[hadi123]

Some players are to blame as well. Especially if you know you're injury prone. Even if CSA couldn't stop Steyn, no one held a gun to his head and forced him to play. He himself knows he's injury prone. I have little sympathy for him tbh.

 

[Artaxerxes]

IPL Ruined South Africa's WC Chances

South Africa should not have allowed its top players to take part in IPL.It was foolish to allow Steyn and Rabada to take part as the world cup was around the corner.
I can understand why countries like Afghanistan,Sri Lanka and Bangladesh allow their top players to take part in IPL.There is no excuse for England,Australia or South Africa to let their players take part in a meaningless tournament.These boards are not short of money and can look after their players.The investment on these players is wasted when they get injured before the WC.

 

[jadaja]

IPL is annual affair and everyone knows when it happens, it is upto ICC to shift the dates , Why not play Ashes early and then have world cup in middle of summer in England.

Players get hurt that is fact of life, Indian players were playing too in IPL.Why are people whining about injuries in IPL.Don't players get hurt playing other leagues.Stop with excuses it reeks jealousy, if Dale Steyn couldn't last 8 overs how the heck will he last for whole world cup.

Rabada is fine and didn't he play all matches so far.

 

[jnaveen1980]

So resting has nothing to do with injury? Please elaborate further. From where do you get such 'gyan'?

.

Are you serious? Resting help you recover from overload not prevent injuries. Bowling is an unnatural human action. It can cause wide range of injuries regardless of how long you rest. Steyn bowled like 8 overs. In the IPL. He might very well have done that in a county game first class game.

 

[MRSN]

IPL is part of international cricket now and cannot be grouped with other franchise leagues like PSL, BPL, CPL, BBL etc. who are nothing but meek imitations of the giant that the IPL is today.

In fact, it is pretty much international cricket in franchise form. The game stops for about 1.5 months and all big international players take part in what is the highest form of T20 cricket in the game today.

Cricket boards and supporters have to make peace with it now. Getting injured on IPL duty is no longer different to getting injured on international duty. Besides, the cricket boards always have the option of recalling their players.

India itself is at a bigger risk than other boards, because their star players will never be allowed to skip tournaments.

That is where you are wrong because for me it is still an Indian league and I couldn't bother watching one game because there was nothing for me to associate with.

The international community might watch IPL or any other leagues to see few of their favourite players like AB or Gayle but don't have passion. They don't care if Mumbai or Riders win. But international cricket is different. There is passion involved and every player's performance is judged very closely.

I am sure SA fans will be devastated to see Steyn missing out his last wc for their team who was injured playing IPl.

 

[MRSN]

Not only Steyn but AB too wanted to get easy money playing IPL then representing national team for the world cup. Don't think most fans have positive opinion about theer leagues when cases like AB and Steyn are on the rise.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Olivier Philander didn’t play. Rabada and Morris played. Both are playing now. Steyn is old. He could pick up injury anywhere. Cricket is cricket. If anything it prepares you well for competitive World Cup.

 

[Artaxerxes]

IPL is part of international cricket now and cannot be grouped with other franchise leagues like PSL, BPL, CPL, BBL etc. who are nothing but meek imitations of the giant that the IPL is today.

In fact, it is pretty much international cricket in franchise form. The game stops for about 1.5 months and all big international players take part in what is the highest form of T20 cricket in the game today.

Cricket boards and supporters have to make peace with it now. Getting injured on IPL duty is no longer different to getting injured on international duty. Besides, the cricket boards always have the option of recalling their players.

India itself is at a bigger risk than other boards, because their star players will never be allowed to skip tournaments.

IPL attracts international players because of money.Only Indians are excited about IPL.Fans from other countries are passionate about ICC events and bilateral series played by their own countries.I don't watch any IPL matches because I can't relate to IPL.It makes no difference to me which franchise wins IPL.

 

[Mamoon]

That is where you are wrong because for me it is still an Indian league and I couldn't bother watching one game because there was nothing for me to associate with.

The international community might watch IPL or any other leagues to see few of their favourite players like AB or Gayle but don't have passion. They don't care if Mumbai or Riders win. But international cricket is different. There is passion involved and every player's performance is judged very closely.

I am sure SA fans will be devastated to see Steyn missing out his last wc for their team who was injured playing IPl.

The international community doesn’t care if Mumbai or KKR win, but neither do they care if Pakistan beats Sri Lanka in a bilateral series, or if New Zealand beats Bangladesh etc.

The IPL is not comparable to ICC tournaments, but it is certainly on par with bilateral T20 cricket. In fact, I would argue that it is better because the intensity is better.

 

[Mamoon]

IPL attracts international players because of money.Only Indians are excited about IPL.Fans from other countries are passionate about ICC events and bilateral series played by their own countries.I don't watch any IPL matches because I can't relate to IPL.It makes no difference to me which franchise wins IPL.

IPL, like other franchise leagues that have made unsuccessful attempts to copy its success, was all about money initially, but after 11 years, it has developed a genuine fanbase and prestige.

I think if you give a player equal amount of money to play for Mumbai Indians or Lahore Qalandars, he will most definitely opt to play for the former.

 

[Artaxerxes]

IPL, like other franchise leagues that have made unsuccessful attempts to copy its success, was all about money initially, but after 11 years, it has developed a genuine fanbase and prestige.

I think if you give a player equal amount of money to play for Mumbai Indians or Lahore Qalandars, he will most definitely opt to play for the former.

Players are after money only.The standard of cricket in PSL is pretty good.IPL is not miles ahead of other leagues.Players are reluctant to play Pakistan due to security issues.Pakistan is not as dangerous as it is portrayed in by foreign media but it is not easy to change people's perception.

 

[Saj]

Have to feel sorry for some Boards.

They stop players from playing in T20 tournaments, they are seen as the villains.
They allow players to play in T20 tournaments, they are seen as not planning well.

 

[Mamoon]

Players are after money only.The standard of cricket in PSL is pretty good.IPL is not miles ahead of other leagues.Players are reluctant to play Pakistan due to security issues.Pakistan is not as dangerous as it is portrayed in by foreign media but it is not easy to change people's perception.

99% of the players will not play in the IPL for free, but my point is that IPL is an established brand now. PSL is good but it is not comparable to IPL on any level.

A franchise like Peshawar Zalmi has no worth in comparison to a franchise like CSK for example, and if you give a player a choice between the two with the money a constant, I don’t see any player opting to play for Zalmi.

 

[Technics 1210]

IPL handout of 300K USD is nothing compared to the fame and fortunes of a world cup winning squad who will be set for life.

If players cannot see this, and cannot sacrifice the IPL once in 4 years, then they should think twice before representing their nation.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Rabada, CHris Morris, Russell, Gayle, Brathwhite, Faf, Tahir, Smith, Warner, Williamson, Butler, Stokes, Miller.. many players played the IPL from beginning to end. Steyn came midway and left midway. Only difference is he is an aging old fast bowler who is on his last legs. 8 overs is all he bowled. He has not been fit for a while. He is just pushing through. Even playing world cup means pushing through. Imagine him breaking down in the first match. He is more injury prone than ever. Fast bowling is such a thankless job. Playing for 14 years is even tougher. Blaming IPL is just a cop out. Ngidi injury is the main issue for them. He didn't play the iPL. They could have picked Philander if they wanted.