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Are Misbah-ul-Haq and/or Waqar Younis responsible for Mohammad Amir's retirement from intl cricket?

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I am not a conspiracy theorist but this retirement doesn't look that simple. I still remember Amir was very serious to perform and wanted to make up his losses. But someone behind the scene is controlling him. Misbah-Waqar was part of the problem but not the whole issue. His attitude has changed drastically in last 2.5-3 years, like faking injury, not working in his weakness, lack of inspiration, not giving 100%, bowling on poor length again and again, use mouth more than ball to justify his poor performances....
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Title says at all!!!
I am not a conspiracy theorist but this retirement doesn't look that simple. I still remember Amir was very serious to perform and wanted to make up his losses. But someone behind the scene is controlling him. Misbah-Waqar was part of the problem but not the whole issue. His attitude has changed drastically in last 2.5-3 years, like faking injury, not working in his weakness, lack of inspiration, not giving 100%, bowling on poor length again and again, use mouth more than ball to justify his poor performances....
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Nobody influenced his own poor bowling form.

Firsly, if people were criticizing him, it's probably because he was a spot fixer. We brought him into the team, and for a while, he performed. I don't know what happened after that with him and his own decisions.

Retirement from test cricket was fine, but playing these random T20 leagues with no explanation whilst complaining about workload clearly angered some PCB members.

The board that got him back on his feet has nothing to do with his own mistakes which eventually led to a waste of what could have been a promising career.
 
Here’s my understanding of events:

1. Amir’s form dipped so much that Musa Khan and Faheem Ashraf were performing better than him in the National T20 Cup. Through no fault of his own, though, as it was clear Amir’s body was giving up on him.

2. Seeing this horrible form, Misbah did not select Amir for New Zealand. Fair play. Misbah makes the mistake of not calling Amir directly to inform him about this decision - better communication from the PCB would have been good.

3. Instead of taking it positively and working hard, Amir fails to consult a professional physiotherapist or bowling coach. He then goes off to play in leagues around the world where he has very middling performances - some good, some bad. But even in the good performances, Amir continues to be noticeably down on pace and is not generating the swing he used to.

4. Amir goes into denial mode about the physical problems present, and begins retweeting masala posts by various journalists, attacks on Misbah and the current management, and even tweets either by Mickey Arthur or about him. This is unprofessional conduct.

5. Waqar makes a careless statement during a Zoom press conference - Shoaib Jatt asks him about workload, and Waqar genuinely has no idea what he’s talking about. “I didn’t realize workload was an issue, isn’t he playing in a couple leagues right now?” So two people at fault here - the most obvious is Waqar, for making a statement that can very easily be spun and interpreted in a variety of different ways. The person who people are not looking at here is Amir - if you read between the lines, he has very clearly failed to communicate his workload issues with Waqar and Misbah. It is clear that if Amir was serious about regaining form, he would consult his bowling coach of all people rather than go off on his own. And he’s not even consulting his own coach or physio - he’s just continuing to steam in in Sri Lanka!

6. Amir makes a statement about still waiting for a call from Misbah explaining why he was dropped, and that he’s been waiting several months. Sure, the PCB should definitely communicate with all players around the national team about selections and droppings, but why does Amir in turn expect special treatment when no other player gets this kind of communication? Is it that much of an ego issue for Amir to make that call to Misbah himself?

7. Amir retires from international cricket as a whole, rather than continue to fight his case! And he knows very well that a new selector is incoming. What does that say about him? I don’t want to insinuate he’s not serious about returning to cricket, because just observing his interviews and body language, I do genuinely believe he wants to play for his country. But it seems he’s dug himself so deep into this vendetta against the current management, that he has no choice but to continue with it.

The truth is, there is clearly a horrible mismatch in communication between the PCB and Amir. That should no doubt be rectified. But Amir should by no means feel entitled to selection even if he is performing domestically, as folks like Tabish Khan, Nauman Ali, Kashif Bhatti, Fawad Alam, Saud Shakeel, and more can testify. If his form dips, it is primarily Amir’s responsibility, and only secondarily the management’s, to recover fitness.

Amir could still have made it to the World T20 if he kept his mouth shut, consulted someone like Ian Pont, and dominated in PSL 6. He has himself chosen otherwise, and no one else can bear the blame.
 
No they are not responsible - why is this even a question?

He’s performances/pace have dipped of late. Lost he’s desire in the longer format after the PCB did everything in it’s power to bring him back- and backed by fans.l- so selfish & ungrateful. He is responsible for he’s own downfall. Nobody else os.
 
If Misbah is, than he did a great job here.

Hopefully, we wont see more of this corrupt player anymore.
 
There's blame to go around here. Amir deserved to be dropped for the NZ series - let's make that clear. His form in the NT20 was rubbish. However obviously this decision wasn't made overnight.

Amir's at fault for not keeping himself fit during his ban and his performances have been underwhelming. However the team management overbowled him not realising you cannot expect someone laid off for five years to seamlessly return to a full international schedule.

Now the reason this issue didn't blow up earlier was because Mickey Arthur and Mohammad Amir were regularly communicating. Mickey was empathetic as he understands the modern game where many fast bowlers have their workloads managed by their coaches.

However Mickey is dismissed and in comes PE teachers Misbah and Waqar who clearly didn't bother sitting down with their predecessor and inform themselves of the situation. Inevitably there's a breakdown in communication nor any empathy. Waqar bowled himself into the ground when he was playing and so concepts like workload management are alien to him, while Misbah was the Test Captain who bowled Amir into the ground !

The most unforgivable blunder was Misbah dropping Amir from Cat C contract this year - mainly for limited overs cricketers. Central contracts were based on performances over the previous 12 months. You cannot tell me Amir wasn't one of our key LOI performers, he averaged 25 in ODIs in 2019. So who wouldn't be aggrieved by this liking and disliking policy, especially when gully bowlers like Musa Khan and Faheem Ashraf are picked in every squad ?
 
Yes.

As I said at the time when the 500 man squad for New Zealand was announced, Amir should ponder retirement because he is not going to get picked as long as Misbah is there, since Misbah is holding a grudge against him for retiring from Test cricket.

He wasn’t getting back in the side unless he got in his knees and begged forgiveness.

There was no justification for leaving him out when every Tom, Dick and Harry from domestic cricket was named in the squad for New Zealand.

Can PCB justify with a straight face that Amir is not among the top 35 white ball players in the country? Of course he is.

It was definitely an indication to Amir that he should stop thinking about international cricket and move on.
 
His greed is responsible for Amir’s retirement. In any case, he’s probably 36 or 38 so not getting younger.
 
People talk about the number of overs he bowled (workload management) since his debut while completely ignoring the fact that if any thing happened, it was between 2016-2019 when his favourite (he himself said that) coach Mickey Arther was in charge. He bowled 1273.2 overs till the end of 2019, funnily enough Amir even tweeted that stat without even caring to to consider who was in charge .

If he was over bowled than it was done under Mickey’s tenure and yet somehow he is Amir’s favourite coach. Both things cant he right at the same time. Another contradiction from Amir.

In T20 internationals he took one wicket in last 5 matches and his economy was 9.36 in last two matches. While in National T20 cup he took 6 wickets in 7 matches at an avg of 38 and economy of 8.73.

If Misbah-Waqar duo is responsible to ask for performance at international level or showing some form in domestic cricket than surely they can be blamed. I cant talk about what went at the backend if anything.

Problem is Amir’s T20 numbers in last year or so dont support his cause. Yes in ODIs he did a reasonable job but, than he was never dropped rather only rested for Zim series.
 
It was very clear that Misbah and Waqar decided to take Amir decision personally. Their anger got worse after the humiliation in Aus as if Amir was somehow to blame for it. Quite how Misbah and Waqar kept their jobs after that i'll never know.
 
No. Amir wasn't even in the top 10 pacers in the national T20. If he is supposedly so good, why did he average 38 in a domestic competition where Anwar Ali was averaging 29? Just for context Haris Rauf averaged 13, tournament's best.

That is good enough a reason for why he wasn't selected.
 
No , he himself, Misbah and waqar done the right thing by not selecting him.

I am glad we get rid of him..
 
People talk about the number of overs he bowled (workload management) since his debut while completely ignoring the fact that if any thing happened, it was between 2016-2019 when his favourite (he himself said that) coach Mickey Arther was in charge. He bowled 1273.2 overs till the end of 2019, funnily enough Amir even tweeted that stat without even caring to to consider who was in charge .

If he was over bowled than it was done under Mickey’s tenure and yet somehow he is Amir’s favourite coach. Both things cant he right at the same time. Another contradiction from Amir.

In T20 internationals he took one wicket in last 5 matches and his economy was 9.36 in last two matches. While in National T20 cup he took 6 wickets in 7 matches at an avg of 38 and economy of 8.73.

If Misbah-Waqar duo is responsible to ask for performance at international level or showing some form in domestic cricket than surely they can be blamed. I cant talk about what went at the backend if anything.

Problem is Amir’s T20 numbers in last year or so dont support his cause. Yes in ODIs he did a reasonable job but, than he was never dropped rather only rested for Zim series.

Difference is Mickey and Amir were regularly communicating and Amir was free to articulate his concerns. Mickey also understands the modern game where many boards are limiting the workloads of their fast bowlers. Look at Archer who's been rested by ECB for Sri Lanka series.

However Misbah (surprisingly) and Waqar (unsurprisingly) have demonstrated zero man management and communication skills in this affair, or any understanding of the issue. Waqar himself had no concept of workload management bowling himself into the ground in County Cricket, while Misbah was the Test Captain who overbowled Amir himself !
 
No. He is done at this level. Pakistani fans have simply invested too much in he Aamir hype to let go. Waqar and Misbah certainly expedited the process though.
 
I don't think misbah and Waqar are fully to blame they weren't happy and tried to exclude because of the retirement from test cricket

But even in limited over cricket he has not done much , I think they should have said we will rest him for some tours until he finds form again

Amir is still needed for the next few years because he can still be a match winner in pressure matches can bat a bit too and even if he doesn't take wickets he will be economical and that is cruciel for ODI and t20 cricket as well

I think Waqar and misbah could have handle the situation better but Amir is to blame if you were dropped don't cry about it just perform strong in leagues and domestic that selectors can't ignore you

But he had to be all dramatic about it and take retirement
 
A sad day. But he was a person who lacked real character and wanted to be a shooperishtaar without putting in the hard work. Hence why he lost so many good years of his life. He will always be the talent that should have lit up cricketing world during the mid 2000's but he will be remembered as a bit of a failure unfortunately. CT17 was the last time he showed us what hew as about, and perhaps you could say the WC was his last hurrah..

I hope this is a lesson to other budding youngsters who wnat to become hero's after a few performances and then start showing off..
 
Nope. Amir is useless now and hence not needed. The PCB too realized that this fraud no longer deserves the investment and pampering he has been receiving and therefore he should be treated just like anyone else
 
Did Misbah or Waqar hold a gun to his head and force him to announce his retirement?

Only one person can make Amir decide to retire and that is Amir. He wants to earn money fast, and that means hitting the T20 leagues around the world. Maybe by retiring he is hoping he might get offered an IPL contract.
 
Regardless of who made him take this decision, Waqar Younis should definitely leave Pakistan cricket alone. What is he still doing here and on what basis was he back?

Everytime he has been involved in the setup, Pakistan cricket has regressed dramatically. This guy has no clue. I’ve not seen a single player mentioning that he benefitted under his coaching.

Leave Pakistan cricket alone Waqar! Enough of your personal problems with players.
 
2010: gets banned
2015: returns to international cricket
2020: retires from international cricket
2025: bowling coach? :D
 
Waqar can add another one to his continuously growing list of those players he's fallen out with.
 
Feel sorry for jobbers like Musa and Faheem. They will be under relentless pressure now to step up considering they were picked over Amir without any proper justification
 
Feel sorry for jobbers like Musa and Faheem. They will be under relentless pressure now to step up considering they were picked over Amir without any proper justification

I think the pressure will equally be on Misbah/Waqar. But knowing that the are the least self critical individuals, idk if it'll even matter to them
 
Title says at all!!!
I am not a conspiracy theorist but this retirement doesn't look that simple. I still remember Amir was very serious to perform and wanted to make up his losses. But someone behind the scene is controlling him. Misbah-Waqar was part of the problem but not the whole issue. His attitude has changed drastically in last 2.5-3 years, like faking injury, not working in his weakness, lack of inspiration, not giving 100%, bowling on poor length again and again, use mouth more than ball to justify his poor performances....
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May be partially, but I would say the first culprit is Amir himself. He got a life line just for his age (otherwise Asif was bigger loss and Butt could have led PAK in 3-4 WCs), but didn't do justice to that - his batting declined, his fitness cost his bowling and his intension was questionable. I think, both Misbah & WY are under tremendous pressure to deliver, therefore both are looking for excuses/scape goats and Amir obelized.

As I said - he should have never retired from Test cricket. If he wasn't/isn't fit enough - no one would have forced him to play Test; if he wasn't performing - no one would have picked him for Test or even ODI. I think, he thought of himself too important for PAK cricket and it could have worked if there were some nobodies in charge, but both Misbah & WY are legends of PAK cricket and holds much higher reputation - they didn't him much space.
 
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Misbah and Waqar are responsible for this indeed. They treated him very poorly. Good call by Amir.
 
Nope. Amir is useless now and hence not needed. The PCB too realized that this fraud no longer deserves the investment and pampering he has been receiving and therefore he should be treated just like anyone else

“Not needed” because Musa Khan and Husnain are bowling 150+kph in swinging balls pitched 2ft outside off and hitting leg stump.

“Not needed” because after his hair transplant, Wahab Riaz has now gained 5 more years of International cricket.

“Not needed” because bowlers like Hassan Ali, Shinwari, Rauf are not injury prone.

“Not needed” because the bowlers that are in the current squad show desire and ultimately desire wins you games not skill, right?

“Not needed” because we have Faheem Ashraf who will be our next leading wicket taker in a WC event.
 
May be partially, but I would say the first culprit is Amir himself. He got a life line just for his age (otherwise Asif was bigger loss and Butt could have led PAK in 3-4 WCs), but didn't do justice to that - his batting declined, his fitness cost his bowling and his intension was questionable. I think, both Misbah & WY are under tremendous pressure to deliver, therefore both are looking for excuses/scape goats and Amir obelized.

As I said - he should have never retired from Test cricket. If he wasn't/isn't fit enough - no one would have forced him to play Test; if he wasn't performing - no one would have picked him for Test or even ODI. I think, he thought of himself too important for PAK cricket and it could have worked if there were some nobodies in charge, but both Misbah & WY are legends of PAK cricket and holds much higher reputation - they didn't him much space.

My biggest shock from this post was your (correct) statement that Salman Butt would probably have led 3-4 world cups. That’s 2011, 2015, 2019 and even now he is 36, could easily have retired at age 39 after the 2023 world cup. Never thought of it like that. Though captains in Pak cricket don’t usually last long, I think Salman Butt with decent performances, his tactical prowess, and English could easily have fooled 200 million Pakistanis into blind fans including the PCB.

Maybe a team like this at the 2019 World Cup last year?

1. Salman Butt (c)
2. Fakhar Zaman
3. Babar Azam
4. Mohammad Hafeez
5. Haris Sohail
6. Kamran Akmal (wk)
7. Imad Wasim
8. Shadab Khan
9. Mohammad Amir
10. Mohammad Asif
11. Shaheen Afridi
 
My biggest shock from this post was your (correct) statement that Salman Butt would probably have led 3-4 world cups. That’s 2011, 2015, 2019 and even now he is 36, could easily have retired at age 39 after the 2023 world cup. Never thought of it like that. Though captains in Pak cricket don’t usually last long, I think Salman Butt with decent performances, his tactical prowess, and English could easily have fooled 200 million Pakistanis into blind fans including the PCB.

Maybe a team like this at the 2019 World Cup last year?

1. Salman Butt (c)
2. Fakhar Zaman
3. Babar Azam
4. Mohammad Hafeez
5. Haris Sohail
6. Kamran Akmal (wk)
7. Imad Wasim
8. Shadab Khan
9. Mohammad Amir
10. Mohammad Asif
11. Shaheen Afridi

I actually considered 3-4 WCs including T20 WCs as well. Surely, surely a PAK Captain won't have lasted from 2009 to 2019, but he would have got that job few times - may be 2 ODI WCs and 1-2 T20 WCs.

Had these idiots not got caught red handed and had the then PCB Chief had been a first class buffoon, lot's of things would have changed in PAK cricket - first one is that PAK's make shift home would have been UK instead of that sh!tty place. Means, you could have seen PAK playing home games with 4 pacers instead of 3.5 darters. Then, probably you won't have been embarrassed by MoHa being banned 4 times for chucking - he & Malik won't have lasted for 12 years, had UK been PAK's home instead of those mud beds. PAK's batting won't have been at this bankrupt state because in UK, stroke markers would have been required. And finally, a monster won't have born in PAK cricket - Misbah ul Haq. Along with UAE, guy have sucked out every bit of blood and attitude from PAK cricket ...... instead of that 3/9 incidents, probably these three idiots have cost PAK Cricket more!!!!!
 
No one person is to blame for this ridiculous situation.

Rather this epitomises exactly what is wrong with Pakistan cricket, egos, a lack of communication, no forward planning, no give and take, no direction and a total lack of leadership and guidance.
 
No one person is to blame for this ridiculous situation.

Rather this epitomises exactly what is wrong with Pakistan cricket, egos, a lack of communication, no forward planning, no give and take, no direction and a total lack of leadership and guidance.

100% agreed.
 
Not Waqar that much , but Misbah is definitely responsible for forcing Amir to retire , its a matter of some personal grudge, plain and simple. One more reason to believe MIsbag has been the worst thing happen to Pakistan cricket.
 
No one person is to blame for this ridiculous situation.

Rather this epitomises exactly what is wrong with Pakistan cricket, egos, a lack of communication, no forward planning, no give and take, no direction and a total lack of leadership and guidance.

Agree that the blame here is shared, however the lack of man management by primarily Misbah, and then Waqar shooting his mouth off, is frankly incredible.

A national team selector/coach doesn't need to do much aside from have honest conversations with all potential Pakistan players.

Conversations about
i) why they've been picked OR,
ii) why they haven't been picked and
iii)what they need to do to come into consideration again.

That's it. That's all. The fact that Misbah didn't have the discipline/foresight/intelligence to do something as basic as that is stunning, not just for Amir but for Shoaib Malik and Asad Shafiq too.

Don't get me wrong, none of the three mentioned players merit a spot for Pakistan right now, but basic common sense would mean keeping them motivated for a future call up.

Amir does not warrant getting called up, and needs to do extensive work to even be a factor in domestic t20 competitions. However let that not distract people from Misbah's shoddy work here.

I want Pakistan to win every match they play. But I almost want us to get utterly smashed in NZ, not so that Amir makes a comeback, but so that Misbah can get his walking papers and we can move on from this utterly regressive coaching regime we're stuck with.
 
No one person is to blame for this ridiculous situation.

Rather this epitomises exactly what is wrong with Pakistan cricket, egos, a lack of communication, no forward planning, no give and take, no direction and a total lack of leadership and guidance.

In current set up, this was primarily Misbah's job and he failed in it, not for the first time.
 
Amir instead of fighting for his place has retired to allow him to focus on franchise cricket. A very convenient window of opportunity to blame the current management for his woes. Amir’s heart is not in it. His passion for teamgreen has woren and he’s looking to maximise his financial gains.
 
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1. Amir can't work hard
2. He's eyeing the IPL & other leagues
3. Can only play IPL when you retire from PAK cricket and get BRIT passport
4. Yes, Misbah didn't endure Amir's big ego.

Is that a wrong decision to not tolerate his entitlement and huge ego?

IMO, he's valuable in T20s, so should have been kept in the T20s. A wrong decision by Misbah, BUT, not one that will hurt PAK cricket.

He wasn't going to win us anything that Shaheen or others can't do.

But sure he'll be missed at World T20 - provided he doesn't come back. Chances are he'll come back and take a U turn.
 
Without laying blame either way, there is definitely a mistrust or misunderstanding between the two which has only become worse.

In many countries a bowler retires from one format to prolong their career in another- and yes, they always go on to play T20 leagues afterward. Usually this is taken gracefully- basically very, very rare for the bowler to be criticised by management anywhere in the world (his body, his career after all). But they basically gave Amir both barrels.

Whether because PCB defended him years ago they felt he owed them? I'm not sure. Or Misbah always felt betrayed? Possible. Waqar sees him up close & doesn't think he works as hard as less talented guys- maybe.

I think he has kind of constantly been rebuffed & criticised by these guys. So he pulled away. Maybe his personality needed different handling. Whether he "deserved" different handling I can't say.

But I do think under different management that Amir is still playing for Pakistan.
 
Without laying blame either way, there is definitely a mistrust or misunderstanding between the two which has only become worse.

In many countries a bowler retires from one format to prolong their career in another- and yes, they always go on to play T20 leagues afterward. Usually this is taken gracefully- basically very, very rare for the bowler to be criticised by management anywhere in the world (his body, his career after all). But they basically gave Amir both barrels.

Whether because PCB defended him years ago they felt he owed them? I'm not sure. Or Misbah always felt betrayed? Possible. Waqar sees him up close & doesn't think he works as hard as less talented guys- maybe.

I think he has kind of constantly been rebuffed & criticised by these guys. So he pulled away. Maybe his personality needed different handling. Whether he "deserved" different handling I can't say.

But I do think under different management that Amir is still playing for Pakistan.

Misbah and Waqar did not force Amir to retire from Test Cricket and now Overall Cricket. Neither did they stop him from playing in T-20 leagues around the world. Yes they didn't pick him for Pakistan and selection in the Pakistani team is not anyone's birth right. The Onus was on Amir to perform at such a world class level in these T-20 leagues that Misbah and Waqar would be pressurized to select him in the Pakistan team, but he didn't do that did he?

Also what was Amir's workload like since he retired from test cricket in 2019? He announced his decision around July - August 2019 and it has been 1.5 years, how many overs has he had to bowl in the last 1.5 overs, shouldn't he have gotten his energy, strength back and been back to his best bowling at 140-145 km/hr and swinging the ball both ways?

Sorry but Amir is a fraud and i don't blame the PCB, Misbah and Waqar treating this pampered boy like everyone else who should be made to earn his place in the side again.
 
IMO. PCB need to ensure that the central contracts of its 3 format bowlers (and batsmen) need to be iron clad and highly rewarding. It all comes down to money in this day and age, passion and patriotism is something only we the fans experience.

I think the PCB are blessed to have had a situation such as Amir who could not return the favour back to the board who did everything in their power to ensure a bright young talent from practically no background is not completely wasted. For this, the PCB deserves a lot of credit and respect for putting up with this guy just like a father would not give up on his son that is addicted to drugs and requires a serious rehabilitation period.

Amir was never concerned about being burned out mentally, his number one concern was the physical erosion of his weak frame. The body that he seriously depends on to play intense cricket up until the age of 40. This was taking a huge hit due to the lengthy, fruitless spells that he was producing without much penetration. Also, the supporting bowlers were not exactly deadly in the sense that he could just ride along with an economy rate of 2.8-3.1 and pick up a wicket or 2 during an innings.

The mileage being put in during Test cricket and FC cricket was reducing days/years of his career where he was hoping to retire at 33-35 and play 5 years of easy paisa cricket. He had to get out before it was too late and he couldn’t maximise his earnings.

What should the PCB learn from this?

Amir was identified at a young age to become an all format cricketer, and the PCB have sure identified other young prospects just like him. I would sincerely hope that the central contract should be so rewarding that the cricketer has no need whatsoever to A) sell his soul for money and B) look for an easy way out to earn a lot more money playing franchise cricket.

Someone like Shaheen Shah should be earning $1M per year as a Pakistani central contract player, and approximately $150-250k as a PSL bowler. This is enough money for him to not worry about somehow getting an NOC and playing the LPL, CPL or T10 league.
 
Just watched video of a media person who told 1 year ago that Amir is not interested in playing for Pakistan and just wants to get full contract in county and play in leagues around. Not surprising considering he played 4 day match for Essex after he retired form tests.

Not sure how credible this is but, anything is pretty much possible.
 
Really disgusted with Amir!!!! He should be grateful that PCB did so much for him to bring him back. Any other board would bar him to play even domestic/franchise leagues. Hard to believe a shy/hard-working kid like him became so cunning and so greedy.
All these talks of emotions and work-load are utter rubbish. Don't like Misbah-Waqar combo but PCB should make sure any new management in future will not consider him either for national duty. Also PCB should bar him playing Pakistan domestic and not select any PSL team. He can play foreign franchise leagues. We need honest, hard working young players who are happy and proud to represent Pakistan Cricket team than foreign franchise leagues.
 
Amir last took an International T20 wicket in 2019. From that point onwards he's played 3 games for Pakistan while having an ER of 9.xx and not being able to complete his full quota of overs in England (which kinda led to a loss in that game). Couple that with his retirement from Intl cricket (AT 27 YEARS OLD), a time when he should've been leading the charge for Pakistan in Tests says quite a bit on his commitment to the board which gave him a unwarranted second chance considering he sullied the name of the nation for a quick buck.

The dropping of Amir might have come at Misbah's hands however given the attitude he's had for the last couple of years, this was long overdue.
 
I think more and more people are of the opinion that this is not the best Coaching combo we have today however, most of the problems regarding this whole episode lie with Mr. Amir:


1. He claims he spent 5 years in torture -- It is shocking he is still trying to play the victim card here. He was banned because he was caught cheating! The only reason he got leniency (apart from his potential) was the fact that he was marked as a youngster but if PCB were to do age tests, he was definitely not in his teens at time as he hardly looks like a 28 year old today. He should thank the Almighty that he got a second chance and should have been humble about everything he is getting after comeback however ...

2. He decides to treat himself as a "senior". Now we all know the senior culture in the team and the sense of entitlement that comes with it. He is just craving for it, but he is not actually a senior at all. He is basically just equal to Shaheen perhaps.

3. He decides to NOT communicate any of his plans with the coaching staff and then wants them to call him to explain themselves for their behavior as if he deserves any of it.

4. Instead of making himself available to play the domestic league, he decides to go elsewhere to make money. Now this itself is not wrong as everyone deserves to earn what they want but if you are looking to one-up your colleagues/rivals to be part of the team, you need to perform in the league where everyone else is. This would have made his case stronger if he had done well OR he may have found out that he isnt really what he thinks he is.

I hope he doesnt come back after this as I have had enough of his antics. However, given that he really admires Afridi ... this may be one of the many retirements he would take ... so I am not really fussed either ways. With Hassan Ali getting some part of his form back, I am really excited by the pace battery we are developing and I would hate to see a trundler in their midst.
 
Sorry 2 say....if anybody is at fault it is Mohammad Amir....... Instead of focusing on his bowling he focussed on easy paisa...... Whole world knows he gonna shift in London and play in IPL CPL Lanka league probably Bash.....but if he performs like this only thing left with him will be vitality blast and PSL.....IPL too would throw him away .....
 
Sorry 2 say....if anybody is at fault it is Mohammad Amir....... Instead of focusing on his bowling he focussed on easy paisa...... Whole world knows he gonna shift in London and play in IPL CPL Lanka league probably Bash.....but if he performs like this only thing left with him will be vitality blast and PSL.....IPL too would throw him away .....

Exactly!!!! I was Amir's die hard fan but his attitude stink and he should never be considered for Pakistan domestic cricket and PSL. If it was BCCI he wouldn't get any NOC to play in any franchise leagues. He became so cunning and greedy.
 
I think more and more people are of the opinion that this is not the best Coaching combo we have today however, most of the problems regarding this whole episode lie with Mr. Amir:


1. He claims he spent 5 years in torture -- It is shocking he is still trying to play the victim card here. He was banned because he was caught cheating! The only reason he got leniency (apart from his potential) was the fact that he was marked as a youngster but if PCB were to do age tests, he was definitely not in his teens at time as he hardly looks like a 28 year old today. He should thank the Almighty that he got a second chance and should have been humble about everything he is getting after comeback however ...

2. He decides to treat himself as a "senior". Now we all know the senior culture in the team and the sense of entitlement that comes with it. He is just craving for it, but he is not actually a senior at all. He is basically just equal to Shaheen perhaps.

3. He decides to NOT communicate any of his plans with the coaching staff and then wants them to call him to explain themselves for their behavior as if he deserves any of it.

4. Instead of making himself available to play the domestic league, he decides to go elsewhere to make money. Now this itself is not wrong as everyone deserves to earn what they want but if you are looking to one-up your colleagues/rivals to be part of the team, you need to perform in the league where everyone else is. This would have made his case stronger if he had done well OR he may have found out that he isnt really what he thinks he is.

I hope he doesnt come back after this as I have had enough of his antics. However, given that he really admires Afridi ... this may be one of the many retirements he would take ... so I am not really fussed either ways. With Hassan Ali getting some part of his form back, I am really excited by the pace battery we are developing and I would hate to see a trundler in their midst.

This a 100 times
 
Here’s my understanding of events:

1. Amir’s form dipped so much that Musa Khan and Faheem Ashraf were performing better than him in the National T20 Cup. Through no fault of his own, though, as it was clear Amir’s body was giving up on him.

2. Seeing this horrible form, Misbah did not select Amir for New Zealand. Fair play. Misbah makes the mistake of not calling Amir directly to inform him about this decision - better communication from the PCB would have been good.

3. Instead of taking it positively and working hard, Amir fails to consult a professional physiotherapist or bowling coach. He then goes off to play in leagues around the world where he has very middling performances - some good, some bad. But even in the good performances, Amir continues to be noticeably down on pace and is not generating the swing he used to.

4. Amir goes into denial mode about the physical problems present, and begins retweeting masala posts by various journalists, attacks on Misbah and the current management, and even tweets either by Mickey Arthur or about him. This is unprofessional conduct.

5. Waqar makes a careless statement during a Zoom press conference - Shoaib Jatt asks him about workload, and Waqar genuinely has no idea what he’s talking about. “I didn’t realize workload was an issue, isn’t he playing in a couple leagues right now?” So two people at fault here - the most obvious is Waqar, for making a statement that can very easily be spun and interpreted in a variety of different ways. The person who people are not looking at here is Amir - if you read between the lines, he has very clearly failed to communicate his workload issues with Waqar and Misbah. It is clear that if Amir was serious about regaining form, he would consult his bowling coach of all people rather than go off on his own. And he’s not even consulting his own coach or physio - he’s just continuing to steam in in Sri Lanka!

6. Amir makes a statement about still waiting for a call from Misbah explaining why he was dropped, and that he’s been waiting several months. Sure, the PCB should definitely communicate with all players around the national team about selections and droppings, but why does Amir in turn expect special treatment when no other player gets this kind of communication? Is it that much of an ego issue for Amir to make that call to Misbah himself?

7. Amir retires from international cricket as a whole, rather than continue to fight his case! And he knows very well that a new selector is incoming. What does that say about him? I don’t want to insinuate he’s not serious about returning to cricket, because just observing his interviews and body language, I do genuinely believe he wants to play for his country. But it seems he’s dug himself so deep into this vendetta against the current management, that he has no choice but to continue with it.

The truth is, there is clearly a horrible mismatch in communication between the PCB and Amir. That should no doubt be rectified. But Amir should by no means feel entitled to selection even if he is performing domestically, as folks like Tabish Khan, Nauman Ali, Kashif Bhatti, Fawad Alam, Saud Shakeel, and more can testify. If his form dips, it is primarily Amir’s responsibility, and only secondarily the management’s, to recover fitness.

Amir could still have made it to the World T20 if he kept his mouth shut, consulted someone like Ian Pont, and dominated in PSL 6. He has himself chosen otherwise, and no one else can bear the blame.

An excellent summary of the events.
 
Talk about Ehsan Faramoshi, Amir had a C Central Contract from the PCB and he is complaining of mental torture and not being in the future plans? Talk about the domestic performers who have performed for 10 plus years and never ever got a look in.
 
Talk about Ehsan Faramoshi, Amir had a C Central Contract from the PCB and he is complaining of mental torture and not being in the future plans? Talk about the domestic performers who have performed for 10 plus years and never ever got a look in.

The 30-averaging fraud thought he was the center of the solar system. How wrong he was.
 
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