Are Muslims to blame for the rise in Islamophobia?

[KingKhanWC]

man, talk about taking things out of context? Case 1: Someone covering their head out of their own free will (feeling cold, sickness, fashion, personal choice ...). Case 2: Religious/Social enforcement dictating women what to wear and thus forced to cover their head without freedom of choice.

How are these 2 similar again? I would say this is a weak attempt to justify what is being forced upon women. It is will known that gender equality is at a very low level among muslim community which is very sad because I'm sure there are many talented muslim women who are being suppressed.

It would be interesting to know if such mentality exists within most of the soldiers of western nations esp USA and if such thinking is related the grave abuses in Abu Ghraib or the rapes of Iraqi women by the invading terrorists armies.

Of course you're wrong, there are hundreds of millions of Muslim women, millions who covert out of their own free will and thus decide to cover their head. They choose Islam so there can be no question of force. Millions more sometimes cover their head and at other times do not cover esp in nations such as Pakistan.

I find such ignorance very worrying esp coming from people who are supposed to be libarators, of course we both know this was nonsense.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Same here. Although I am all for freedom of women to choose what they wear, I am not a fan of Hindu women wiping the red smear on their foreheads, it looks like they have been shot and the blood stain left unwashed.

Yeah, that's another strange practice and the white stain some leave on their forehead looks like an outcome of a bird.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Sure, but you are criticizing them for practicing what you are preaching.

It is my freedom of expression. I can criticize them for their choices but I cannot force them to make the choice that I like.

 

[mustang]

It would be interesting to know if such mentality exists within most of the soldiers of western nations esp USA and if such thinking is related the grave abuses in Abu Ghraib or the rapes of Iraqi women by the invading terrorists armies.

Of course you're wrong, there are hundreds of millions of Muslim women, millions who covert out of their own free will and thus decide to cover their head. They choose Islam so there can be no question of force. Millions more sometimes cover their head and at other times do not cover esp in nations such as Pakistan.

I find such ignorance very worrying esp coming from people who are supposed to be libarators, of course we both know this was nonsense.

Of course everyone else is wrong once we refuse to look at things and only try to find reasoning to further our own propaganda.

So now you are comparing Abu Ghraib perps with peaceful muslim women wearing burqa out of their own free will? You are comparing the best case from your side with the worst case from the opposing side to make your logic sound better. Biased data points can make even Hitler look like an angel.

Let the muslim society give all women their own free will to wear what they want. Those who still want to wear burqa can, and those who choose not to, need not wear it. Simple as that. Why does this not happen? Why do you have to oppress on people's free will to impose what a specific section thinks to be right even within your own community?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Of course everyone else is wrong once we refuse to look at things and only try to find reasoning to further our own propaganda.

So now you are comparing Abu Ghraib perps with peaceful muslim women wearing burqa out of their own free will? You are comparing the best case from your side with the worst case from the opposing side to make your logic sound better. Biased data points can make even Hitler look like an angel.

Let the muslim society give all women their own free will to wear what they want. Those who still want to wear burqa can, and those who choose not to, need not wear it. Simple as that. Why does this not happen? Why do you have to oppress on people's free will to impose what a specific section thinks to be right even within your own community?

Firtly dont confuse yourself.

You were discussing " dictating women what to wear and thus forced to cover their head". The burqa covers the face too not only the head.

You keep saying there is no free will but I pointed out there are many women who convert out of free will and cover their head out of free will. I also pointed out many sometimes cover and other times dont, this proves you were wrong claiming it was due to force. Do you accept you were wrong?

No I am worried such mentality exists in the minds of people who may be invading and occupying land and having such a mind can lead to abuses as we have seen. Do you think people with such views should be sent as liberators?

 

[mustang]

I have answered your stated questions in bold and listed my own for you to answer.

I will now respond to the overall theme of your post which is that non-Muslims do not have rights under Muslim countries. I repeat, most of these countries do not follow Islamic law however, even without it I am struggling to find a Muslim country that has laws oppressing and stopping other religions from worshiping. The three largest Muslim countries (Pakistan, Bangladesh and Malaysia) have rights for religious minorities.

If we talk about Islam and its actual laws, it also has rights protecting minorities, so much so, that in a wartime situation, Muslims have an obligation to protect the non Muslim population of their country, while the non Muslims have no obligation to even fight.

Showing equality for positions of leadership does matter because without that you create second class citizens within your country. Monarchs are paper roles, so I would not count that. For roles of actual governance and power, you do have muslims being elected in western countries (mayor of London is a case in point). So for one of the countries you mentioned - Pakistan - can a non-muslim be voted in as a prime minister or president? Does the constitution allow that?

Pakistan made big news last year by electing ONE non-muslim into general assembly seat last year -- https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ples-party-mp-muslim-imran-khan-a8466396.html -- even this was so rare that it made news.

Many muslim countries cannot even provide a constitutional level of equality (which is usually nominal paper equality) for non-muslims yet we see many muslims complain about lack of SOCIAL equality for muslims when they are a minority in non-muslim countries. When you accuse others of something, do y'all actually look at your own communities and assess if you are measuring up in the first place?

 

[mustang]

Firtly dont confuse yourself.

You were discussing " dictating women what to wear and thus forced to cover their head". The burqa covers the face too not only the head.

You keep saying there is no free will but I pointed out there are many women who convert out of free will and cover their head out of free will. I also pointed out many sometimes cover and other times dont, this proves you were wrong claiming it was due to force. Do you accept you were wrong?

No I am worried such mentality exists in the minds of people who may be invading and occupying land and having such a mind can lead to abuses as we have seen. Do you think people with such views should be sent as liberators?

I'm not the one who seems confused and you never answered my question. Assume 50% of muslim women voluntarily wear burqa (which is a very generous assumption). What about the other 50% that you do force into wearing burqa? Do their rights and free will not get trampled unnecessarily?

 

[KingKhanWC]

I'm not the one who seems confused and you never answered my question. Assume 50% of muslim women voluntarily wear burqa (which is a very generous assumption). What about the other 50% that you do force into wearing burqa? Do their rights and free will not get trampled unnecessarily?

You are as you spoke of head coverings first and then mixed it up with head and face coverings. Read your posts.

Who is forcing them?

 

[mustang]

You are as you spoke of head coverings first and then mixed it up with head and face coverings. Read your posts.

Who is forcing them?

My question was for any enforced practice in muslim communities against people's (especially women's) free will. Head or head + face covering is a case in point.

Who is forcing them? Seriously? Barring a handful of cases, can a woman choose to go out without head or head+face coverings in muslim countries/communities? You are seriously claiming that majority of muslim communities offer that freedom of choice for women? According to you, there is no subjugation of women in muslim communities?

 

[KingKhanWC]

My question was for any enforced practice in muslim communities against people's (especially women's) free will. Head or head + face covering is a case in point.

Who is forcing them? Seriously? Barring a handful of cases, can a woman choose to go out without head or head+face coverings in muslim countries/communities? You are seriously claiming that majority of muslim communities offer that freedom of choice for women? According to you, there is no subjugation of women in muslim communities?

Again , who is forcing them? Its not a handful, it's millions of Muslim women from various nations who dont cover their head.

There is subjugation of women in every community, have you not looked at your own commnity?

 

[mustang]

Again , who is forcing them? Its not a handful, it's millions of Muslim women from various nations who dont cover their head.

There is subjugation of women in every community, have you not looked at your own commnity?

I can guarantee you that your assumption of what my community is - it is way off and inaccurate. Stop with personal attacks and whataboutisms and stick with the topic at hand.

Topic of thread is about Islam and muslim communities and my raised question is about subjugation of women in these communities which I (and every other free willed western national) contend does leave a bad taste about Islam among non-muslim populations of the world. If you are claiming that nobody in the muslim community is oppressing women, then there is no point. As the saying goes - "We can awaken a sleeping person but cannot awaken a person who is pretending to sleep".

 

[KingKhanWC]

I can guarantee you that your assumption of what my community is - it is way off and inaccurate. Stop with personal attacks and whataboutisms and stick with the topic at hand.

Topic of thread is about Islam and muslim communities and my raised question is about subjugation of women in these communities which I (and every other free willed western national) contend does leave a bad taste about Islam among non-muslim populations of the world. If you are claiming that nobody in the muslim community is oppressing women, then there is no point. As the saying goes - "We can awaken a sleeping person but cannot awaken a person who is pretending to sleep".

So there is no subjugation of women in your community? So it's ok for you attack the religion of Muslims but not for anyone to question you?

Again I wrote there is subjugation of women in ALL communities. Surely I dont need to spell it out this includes Muslim communties too.

Once again, who is forcing them?

 

[mustang]

So there is no subjugation of women in your community? So it's ok for you attack the religion of Muslims but not for anyone to question you?

Again I wrote there is subjugation of women in ALL communities. Surely I dont need to spell it out this includes Muslim communties too.

Once again, who is forcing them?

1 - You have no idea what my community is
2 - Topic of this thread is about Islam, stick to the topic and not digress into other issues if you cannot address the questions.

Who is forcing them? - just do a Google search and read (forever and ever) about women being oppressed among muslim communities and find it out for yourself. You know this answer and datapoint yourself regarding muslim women's lack of freedom but the only way you can respond without acknowledging the truth is repeatedly questioning it again and again.

 

[KingKhanWC]

1 - You have no idea what my community is
2 - Topic of this thread is about Islam, stick to the topic and not digress into other issues if you cannot address the questions.

Who is forcing them? - just do a Google search and read (forever and ever) about women being oppressed among muslim communities and find it out for yourself. You know this answer and datapoint yourself regarding muslim women's lack of freedom but the only way you can respond without acknowledging the truth is repeatedly questioning it again and again.

Dont be shy, what is your communtiy. You have stated your background is Indian? Have you seen how women are treated in India?

What should I google? Who is forcing Muslims women ? lol. Just spit it out, as you like to generalise it won't be surprising. Who is forcing these women?

 

[mustang]

Dont be shy, what is your communtiy. You have stated your background is Indian? Have you seen how women are treated in India?

What should I google? Who is forcing Muslims women ? lol. Just spit it out, as you like to generalise it won't be surprising. Who is forcing these women?

My background also has Indian but is not entirely Indian. No need to try too hard to digress from core topic of thread and engage in typical whataboutisms. As I say for umpteenth time, stick to thread topic if you can. If you want to only talk ill about others, ignore issues in your own community, pretend everything is fine in your "ummah" - then by all means engage in your usual demonizing of all things that are not Islamic. I apologize if I am disrupting your perfect little world with a dose of reality.

What do you mean spit it out - it is majority of men from within the muslim world who are forcing/subjugating muslim women. It is not one person or entity that you can conveniently blame, it is the average muslim man next door in your community or inside your own walls. Men who are insecure and do not feel confident in their manhood, men who feel that the only way they can hold onto their women is by locking them up with made up social constructs.

Like I said, you know this as well but I cannot wake up someone who is pretending to be asleep.

 

[KingKhanWC]

My background also has Indian but is not entirely Indian. No need to try too hard to digress from core topic of thread and engage in typical whataboutisms. As I say for umpteenth time, stick to thread topic if you can. If you want to only talk ill about others, ignore issues in your own community, pretend everything is fine in your "ummah" - then by all means engage in your usual demonizing of all things that are not Islamic. I apologize if I am disrupting your perfect little world with a dose of reality.

What do you mean spit it out - it is majority of men from within the muslim world who are forcing/subjugating muslim women. It is not one person or entity that you can conveniently blame, it is the average muslim man next door in your community or inside your own walls. Men who are insecure and do not feel confident in their manhood, men who feel that the only way they can hold onto their women is by locking them up with made up social constructs.

Like I said, you know this as well but I cannot wake up someone who is pretending to be asleep.

My point was there are issues in all communites and your generalisations of Muslim women is poor.

Well done you got there. Not all Muslim men tell the women in their household what they should wear, of course there would be some just as there are Hindu, Jewish and Christian men who do the same.

So far you have made no decent argument to back up your claim Muslim women who cover their heads are all forced to do so.

 

[barah_admi]

Showing equality for positions of leadership does matter because without that you create second class citizens within your country. Monarchs are paper roles, so I would not count that. For roles of actual governance and power, you do have muslims being elected in western countries (mayor of London is a case in point). So for one of the countries you mentioned - Pakistan - can a non-muslim be voted in as a prime minister or president? Does the constitution allow that?

Pakistan made big news last year by electing ONE non-muslim into general assembly seat last year -- https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ples-party-mp-muslim-imran-khan-a8466396.html -- even this was so rare that it made news.

Many muslim countries cannot even provide a constitutional level of equality (which is usually nominal paper equality) for non-muslims yet we see many muslims complain about lack of SOCIAL equality for muslims when they are a minority in non-muslim countries. When you accuse others of something, do y'all actually look at your own communities and assess if you are measuring up in the first place?

Monarch is not a "paper" role, certainly not in the UK. The Royal family has powers to veto laws, which have been used by Prince Charles in recent times.

To answer the rest of what you have posted: Pakistan's head of state can not be a non-Muslim but representative politicians can be and have been. The fact that they are not being elected in MP positions is down to a number of factors, including people not voting for them. It is not down to constitutional law.

One of Pakistan's recent Chief Justices was a non Muslim and that is one of the highest positions in the land.

If the problem you have is that the leader of these countries can not be non Muslims, then like I said, the state and the religion are on under Islamic law. It would be chaotic and unreasonable to have a non Muslim leader of a religious state.

Now, regardless of your issues with constitutional law, there is nothing prohibiting non Muslims from practicing their faith in these countries, certainly no laws, so why did you claim there werE?

Also, I am still awaiting you answering the questions I previously posed.

 

[troodon]

Would you blame Srilankans especially the Christian Lankans to be apprehensive about Muslims after what happened in the last 2 weeks? Its an unfortunate situation and now the moderate Muslim has to hear all about it in the media.

 

[cricketjoshila]

That was the fella who raised the Indian Legion which swore allegiance to Hitler, yes?

So he would have removed the Raj (fair enough) but turned India into an Imperial Japanese client state. Gandhi called him ‘misguided’ and the Indian National Congress distanced themselves from his tactics and ideology.

I get it that many Indians see no moral difference between loss of life under Churchill, Hitler and Hirohito - dead is dead after all - but consider that the famines under the Raj were caused by incompetence in dealing with natural disasters, and contrast with the deliberate mass exterminations of foreign nationals which took place under the Nazis and Imperial Japan. The latter had no regard for human life which was not Japanese. I do not believe that India would have been better off under them, and almost certainly a lot worse off.

He was the man who was fighting a imperalistic force that was killing his countrymen. Hitler or Hirohito did nothing to India, the British did. The British were our enemies.

Bose swore no allegiance. He only asked for Axis powers to help him get rid of a colonial power from India.

Bose left Congress way before it. After he had defeated candidates of Gandhi for Congress president's election.Twice.

May be you didnot know, but Indians didnot need approval of Gandhi or Congress to fight the freedom struggle.

Indian lives didnot matter to British. They were no better than imperial japan or Nazi hitler, may be even worse for the Indians.

 

[slipcatch]

It is my freedom of expression. I can criticize them for their choices but I cannot force them to make the choice that I like.

Again, no one is asking you to give up your freedom of expression, you may continue as you wish.

Criticizing and calling you hypocrite for criticizing those for practicing what you are trying to preach.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Again, no one is asking you to give up your freedom of expression, you may continue as you wish.

Criticizing and calling you hypocrite for criticizing those for practicing what you are trying to preach.

Where is the hypocrisy? Can you elaborate?

 

[MenInG]

The Metropolitan police have launched an investigation after a shot was fired outside a London mosque during prayers for Ramadan.

Police said there were no injuries, and they believe the shot came from a blank-firing handgun, and significantly, they were not treating it as a terrorist incident.

The single shot was fired outside a mosque in Ilford in east London at 10.45pm.

The man with the weapon entered the mosque on the High Road in Seven Kings, but was “ushered out” by those inside, according to police. A shot was then heard.

The incident comes after 51 people were killed in the Christchurch mosque massacre in New Zealand and nearly two years after a terrorist attacked worshippers close to the Finsbury Park mosque in north London, killing one person.

A worshipper at the mosque Ibraheem Hussain, 19, described hearing the gunshot around half an hour after prayers began.

“There’s three sections of the mosque and at taraweeh (evening prayers) during this time of Ramadan the mosque is packed out,” he told Press Association. “We were upstairs in the classrooms and about 30 minutes into the night prayer a large noise went off.

“I just continued my prayer, it sounded like a firework or maybe something heavy had been dropped, so no-one really thought anything of it.

In a statement, Mufti Suhail, the imam of the Seven Kings mosque, said a man entered the building during prayers. “The suspect ran from the scene when stopped by brothers standing guard at the mosque,” the statement said.

Armed officers were rushed to the scene and police are hunting for the suspect.

In a statement the Met said: “Police were called at 22:45hrs on Thursday, 9 May to reports that a man, believed to be in possession of a firearm, had entered a mosque on High Road in Seven Kings.

“The man was ushered outside of the building by those inside. A gunshot was
then heard.

“Officers, including firearms officers, attended. There were no reported injuries or damage to the building. At this early stage, ballistic evidence recovered from the scene suggests that the weapon was a blank firing handgun.”

The statement said a “large police presence” remained at the scene.

“Officers will continue to work closely with representatives from the mosque and are providing reassurance to the local community. .

“There have been no arrests and enquiries continue.”

Muslim groups made efforts to boost security at mosques after the attack in Christchurch.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...during-ramadan-prayers?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

[Ramsay]

The below video justifies the title of the thread.

 

[troodon]

The below video justifies the title of the thread.

Saw this video. Brainwashed kids. This happening is USA and being allowed is staggering.

 

[KingKhanWC]

The below video justifies the title of the thread.

Saw this video. Brainwashed kids. This happening is USA and being allowed is staggering.

Wow, didn't realise we have posters on here who are fluent in Arabic. How long have you guys studied Arabic for and can you translate the whole video please?

 

[troodon]

Wow, didn't realise we have posters on here who are fluent in Arabic. How long have you guys studied Arabic for and can you translate the whole video please?

Subtitles are displayed to read. What do you think they are reading according to you?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Subtitles are displayed to read. What do you think they are reading according to you?

Im not fluent in Arabic.

As for subtitles, who translated them?

 

[troodon]

Im not fluent in Arabic.

As for subtitles, who translated them?

I don't know. Are you saying that the words are misrepresented? If the subtitles are wrong, some Arab Muslim would have challenged it by now. I saw nothing like that.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I don't know. Are you saying that the words are misrepresented? If the subtitles are wrong, some Arab Muslim would have challenged it by now. I saw nothing like that.

Who translated them? Simple question.

 

[troodon]

Who translated them? Simple question.

I don't know.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I don't know.

It says on the video. MEMRI. Do you know who MEMRI is?

 

[troodon]

It says on the video. MEMRI. Do you know who MEMRI is?

I know its an Egyptian channel. If they are misrepresenting the words in the video, then somebody would have countered it already.

 

[samurai]

I wonder, who is a moderate Muslim ? Is he/she the one who picks and chooses only the peaceful verses and ignores the aggressive ones OR one who is cool about religion and doesn't believe in following it fully anyway?

Who is a fundamentalist Muslim ?

If one avoids taking interest from bank, or refuses to allow his daughters to marry the non-Muslim, is he moderate or fundamentalist ?

 

[Ronaldo7]

I know its an Egyptian channel. If they are misrepresenting the words in the video, then somebody would have countered it already.

How many Arabs do you even see on YouTube?

 

[KingKhanWC]

I know its an Egyptian channel. If they are misrepresenting the words in the video, then somebody would have countered it already.

It’s an Israel organisation run by the IDF . Do some research before hitting your keyboard with enthusiasm so you can continue your daily hate against Islam

 

[Robert]

He was the man who was fighting a imperalistic force that was killing his countrymen. Hitler or Hirohito did nothing to India, the British did. The British were our enemies.

Bose swore no allegiance. He only asked for Axis powers to help him get rid of a colonial power from India.

Bose left Congress way before it. After he had defeated candidates of Gandhi for Congress president's election.Twice.

May be you didnot know, but Indians didnot need approval of Gandhi or Congress to fight the freedom struggle.

Indian lives didnot matter to British. They were no better than imperial japan or Nazi hitler, may be even worse for the Indians.

“The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”

Indian lives mattered sufficiently to the British that they were persuaded to leave by Gandhi’s peaceful protest. Bearing in mind what the Imperial Japanese did to the Chinese, Formosans and Koreans - millions murdered by ethnic cleansing, bio-weapons, forced starvation and the most appalling acts of human vivisection, while hundreds of thousands of women were forced to be sex slaves to the military - what do you think Bose’s allies would have done to Indians if they had overwhelmed the British Indian Army and got in? And would they have left due to peaceful protest, or would something much worse have happened?

 

[Robert]

It’s an Israel organisation run by the IDF . Do some research before hitting your keyboard with enthusiasm so you can continue your daily hate against Islam

That you for this enlightening revelation [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION].

 

[shaz619]

That you for this enlightening revelation [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION].

Mr.Robert I thought you had reached an understanding with KingKhan after all these years mate, but it seems you are still very old / set in your views while he is the more forward thinking bloke

 

[MenInG]

UNITED NATIONS, May 23 (APP):United Nations (UN) Secretary-General Antonio Guterres told a virtual meeting of Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) member states at the United Nations (UN) that countering anti-muslim hatred and Islamophobia was his “top priority”, saying he “fully agreed” with the assessment that it could pose a threat to international peace and security, according to informed sources.

The UN chief was responding to the comments from Pakistan’s Ambassador to the
UN, Munir Akram, who dew his attention to the rising cases of anti-Muslim violence and Islamophobia in India, and urged him to adopt a more focused and consistent system-wise approach to fully tackle the menace.

While voicing his concern over the rise of Islamophobia, the secretary-general called for fighting this phenomenon collectively, the sources said.

Guterres was speaking at the meeting organized by OIC on the theme of “COVID-19 Solidarity: Promoting Co-Existence and Shared Responsibility”.

In his remarks, Ambassador Akram raised concerns about the alarming rise in Islamophobia and stigmatization of Muslims in India in the wake of the coronavirus pandemic.

He also highlighted the oppressive measures imposed in Indian Occupied Jammu and Kashmir since August 5, last year when New Delhi annexed the disputed region in violation of UN resolutions.

While terming these developments a matter of “grave concern”, Ambassador Akram noted that such vitriolic hate speech, state-sponsored Islamophobia and deliberate targeting of Muslims in India was not only a human rights challenge but could also endangered peace and security in the region.

Earlier, the Permanent Representative of the OIC Observer Mission in New York, Agshin Mehdiyev, also noted the exploitation of COVID19-related fears where the public discourse had been weaponzied against Muslims by stoking Islamophobia.
In this regard, he made reference to the OIC’s latest statements urging the Government of India to take immediate steps to end discriminatory treatment of Muslims.

Earlier this week, Pakistan had proposed the establishment of a dedicated OIC Working Group on Islamophobia. Several OIC countries including Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Iran, Azerbaijan, Qatar, Malaysia and Egypt welcomed Pakistan’s proposal and need for a concerted OIC position on Islamophobia at the United Nations.

Responding to the solitary dissenting voice of Maldives which objected to any criticism of India, the Pakistani Ambassador told the Maldivian Representative that New Delhi did not have a veto in the OIC.

The remarks made by the UN Secretary-General indicate that the OIC will pursue Pakistan’s proposal for collective action to counter Islamophobia. As a Pakistani diplomat remarked, no Indian puppet can prevent OIC countries from condemning the rising Islamophobia of India’s Hindu extremists.

https://www.app.com.pk/un-chief-ter...-priority-after-pakistan-highlights-concerns/

 

[RajBan]

What I understand many in this forum is Non - Muslims are treated as equal citizens with full independence to observe their religion/culture in Muslim majority countries. This is confirmed by most of the Muslim citizens in those countries.

Muslims on the other hand in Non Muslim/Secular countries are treated harshly with bias , deprived of equal opportunities, curb on religious practices etc. This is aptly validated by generations of Muslims who have stayed in West as well as by those who plan to settle down in those Non- Muslim nations.

 

[Itachi]

"As a Pakistani diplomat remarked, no Indian puppet can prevent OIC countries from condemning the rising Islamophobia of India’s Hindu extremists."

This Pakistani diplomat doesn't seem to be competent for his job.

 

[MenInG]

A Conservative activist has been suspended after tweeting a British Muslim MP should "go back to Pakistan".

The party said they were investigating the comments made by Theodora Dickinson on Twitter about Labour's Naz Shah.

Responding to a GIF of the MP talking about her experience of poverty while growing up in Yorkshire, she wrote if Ms Shah "hates this country so much why doesn't she go back to Pakistan".

The Muslim Council of Britain said such "blatant racism" was unacceptable.

The group - which has previously accused the Conservatives of turning a blind eye to Islamophobia - said it showed there was still a "serious problem" within the party.

Muslim group urges Tory Islamophobia investigation
Tories publish terms for discrimination review
Former party chair Baroness Warsi has also suggested the Conservatives are in denial about the extent of Islamophobia within its ranks.

The Conservatives have launched an inquiry into all forms of prejudice within the party.

But critics have said it is not independent and would not specifically address anti-Muslim racism.

Commons debate
Ms Dickinson posted the tweet in response to a clip from a speech the MP made in a Commons debate on free school meals.

Ms Shah accused ministers of having "no real understanding, care or emotion" about the extent of child poverty in the UK.

In the clip, the Labour politician - who was born in Bradford and now represents the city - spoke of her experience, being "palmed off" to social services when she was a child, separated from her family and taken on trips to Scarborough, adding "that is what poverty is".

Ms Dickinson's comments, which were first reported by the Huffington Post, have since been deleted.

On her Twitter handle, Ms Dickinson describes herself as a political communications and social media consultant. She is understood to have worked for the Vote Leave campaign during the 2016 Brexit referendum.

The Muslim Council of Britain claimed the party activist had previously shared an Islamophobic conspiracy theory in response to the 2019 terror attack on a mosque in Christchurch, New Zealand, but no action had been taken against her.

In a statement, the group said: "Will this latest blatant racism elicit action? The party must reflect and consider why it chooses to ignore widespread concerns about its institutional Islamophobia.

"If a truly independent inquiry is not enacted with its recommendations implemented, there will be a drip-feed of these stories for a long time to come."

A Conservative Party spokesman said: "Theodora Dickinson has been suspended pending the outcome of an investigation."

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-53106605

 

[Mamoon]

To an extent, yes.

Discrimination is self-inflicted to an extent. This is not only true for Muslims but every group that is discriminated against.

However, discrimination is not justifiable under any circumstances so even if a certain group has it coming for them, one should refrain from discrimination.

 

[The Viper]

Tennessee newspaper investigating apocalyptic, 'Islamophobic' ad

A Tennessee newspaper has said it is investigating what its editor called a "horrific" full-page advertisement from a religious group that predicts a terrorist attack in Nashville next month.

The paid advertisement that appeared in Sunday's editions of The Tennessean from the group Future for America claims Donald Trump "is the final president of the USA" and features a photo of Trump and Pope Francis. It begins by claiming that a nuclear device will be detonated in Nashville and that the attack would be carried out by unspecific interests of "Islam".

The group also ran a full-page ad in Wednesday's editions of the newspaper stating its intention to warn Nashville residents about next month's event "so that they may be able to make a decision intelligently".

In a story on its website on Sunday afternoon, The Tennessean said the ad violated the newspaper's long-established standards banning hate speech.

Vice President and Editor Michael A Anastasi said the paper's news and sales departments operate independently.

"Clearly there was a breakdown in the normal processes, which call for careful scrutiny of our advertising content," Anastasi said.

"The ad is horrific and is utterly indefensible in all circumstances. It is wrong, period, and should have never been published," he said. "It has hurt members of our community and our own employees and that saddens me beyond belief. It is inconsistent with everything The Tennessean as an institution stands and has stood for."

Sales executives ordered the ad to be removed from future editions, the newspaper said.

Council on American-Islamic Relations spokesman Ibrahim Hooper said in a statement on Sunday that while the group appreciates that the "Islamophobic" ad was pulled and that an investigation has begun, "we would urge the Tennessean to also implement updated policies and staff training to ensure that this type of hate incident does not occur in the future. CAIR is willing to offer that training."

It was not immediately known how much Future for America paid for the ads. According to its website, the group's ministry warns of so-called end-of-the-world Bible prophecies whose fulfillment "is no longer future-for it is taking place before our eyes."

Publicly available tax forms (PDF) required of non-profit organisations show the group had a total revenue of over $727,000, netting about $91,000 after expenses in 2018, the year for which most recent documents are available.

Future for America spent $3,340 on lobbying that year, but did not list any spending for advertising.

The group had over $1m in assets in 2018, according to the filing.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...calyptic-islamophobic-ad-200622140606425.html

 

[KingKhanWC]

Muslim woman targeted by racist tirade in Florida supermarket

“No they're not humans, they are Muslims”

A Muslim woman was targeted with a racial tirade while she was shopping with her husband in a grocery store in Florida. Nahla Ebaid, an Egyptian American, recorded the incident after the attacker began hurling racial slurs and mocking her clothing.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/video/muslim-woman-targeted-racist-tirade-florida-supermarket

Brilliant ending to a nasty incident. Well done to the Florida Police.

Islamaphobia should be treated just as serious as any other attack on identity such as racism against blacks.

Video in link (abusive language is not heard, covered).

 

[PakLFC]

Such incidents occur everyday with most ones going unreported. It's hardly world news.

 

[PakLFC]

"Why don't you go back to Ukraine?" Enough said with a big slap on her face then suddenly she has "friends who are Muslim!". American police have there problems but are still heaps better then the rubbish we have in Muslim countries. By and large the American police is impartial.

 

[Itachi]

There are some instances where I believe Muslims do distance themselves from the other masses which directly doesn't raise the phobia but may make circumstances uncomfortable.

I won't go to terrorism etc because it's been discussed to death.

Just a simple example. In my various work place, many Muslims tend to stay away from social gatherings and other sorts of cultural events, cuisines etc citing religious reasons.

That's fine. But here's what happens on the other side.

"have this.... (insert some foods name)"

- nope, I can't have this because I am Muslim.

"can you come to this party?"

- I won't be able to attend due to some restrictions.

"let's goto a restaurant"

- there won't be halal food so I can't eat there.

While the reasons are fine, As times passes by, the people in the office tend to involve those people less and less. And it brings an uninviting criteria of "us vs them" because the religion is thrown so much that people start to become frustrated and starts to alienate.

 

[Giannis]

There are some instances where I believe Muslims do distance themselves from the other masses which directly doesn't raise the phobia but may make circumstances uncomfortable.

I won't go to terrorism etc because it's been discussed to death.

Just a simple example. In my various work place, many Muslims tend to stay away from social gatherings and other sorts of cultural events, cuisines etc citing religious reasons.

That's fine. But here's what happens on the other side.

"have this.... (insert some foods name)"

- nope, I can't have this because I am Muslim.

"can you come to this party?"

- I won't be able to attend due to some restrictions.

"let's goto a restaurant"

- there won't be halal food so I can't eat there.

While the reasons are fine, As times passes by, the people in the office tend to involve those people less and less. And it brings an uninviting criteria of "us vs them" because the religion is thrown so much that people start to become frustrated and starts to alienate.

I mean I wouldn't invite my Hindu coworkers to a restaurant that sold hamburgers knowing it's against their religions, I see indians self segregating all the time in America but you don't see complaining that they don't want to be part of our society.

 

[Nadeemp]

99 percent restaurants have vege , vegan, seafood. So there is no reason not to go saying I only eat halal. I had a roommate in the 90s who was vegan , did not drink alcohol , not did he drink sugary sodas. Nobody shoved alcohol down his throat. Everyone respected his eating habits and he was always socializing. I always see Indians socializing. Much better than pakistanis/muslims.

 

[Itachi]

I mean I wouldn't invite my Hindu coworkers to a restaurant that sold hamburgers knowing it's against their religions,

This is the exact issue I mentioned. Some muslims segregate out before even attempting based upon how you want yourself to bring distance from others. You exactly echoed what I wrote.

 

[Giannis]

This is the exact issue I mentioned. Some muslims segregate out before even attempting based upon how you want yourself to bring distance from others. You exactly echoed what I wrote.

Except you ignore my point that it's Indians that segregate themselves in America, you also misconstrue what I said, I didn't say I wouldn't invite Hindu coworkers/friends to hang out - just that I wouldn't be so inconsiderate that I would invite them to something that would be against their religion.

 

[Itachi]

Except you ignore my point that it's Indians that segregate themselves in America, you also misconstrue what I said, I didn't say I wouldn't invite Hindu coworkers/friends to hang out - just that I wouldn't be so inconsiderate that I would invite them to something that would be against their religion.

You fail to comprehend concepts.

The entity that you regard as "inconsiderate" is the whole reason why alienation happened in the first place.

Why do you think it was inconsiderate?

Because you believe that if a non muslim invites you to a restaurant which serves pork is inconsiderate.

You are institutionalized so you won't see what is the crux of the issue here.

 

[RajBan]

Except you ignore my point that it's Indians that segregate themselves in America, you also misconstrue what I said, I didn't say I wouldn't invite Hindu coworkers/friends to hang out - just that I wouldn't be so inconsiderate that I would invite them to something that would be against their religion.

Indians actually socialize much more than what you state. Infact among Asian communities , Indians and Filipinos are probably most integrated in the US mainstream. There are always exceptions and some communities are self centred than others but it's hardly a conscious segregation en masse. To be fair this is true for Pakistanis as well, the ones in US are pretty well integrated with good education and economic background.

 

[Itachi]

Indians actually socialize much more than what you state. Infact among Asian communities , Indians and Filipinos are probably most integrated in the US mainstream. There are always exceptions and some communities are self centred than others but it's hardly a conscious segregation en masse. To be fair this is true for Pakistanis as well, the ones in US are pretty well integrated with good education and economic background.

Even here what I have seen was, in general, the American Pakistanis have more insight and more knowledgeable with intention to blend in a respected manner than some brit Pakistanis which seem to having identity crisis dueling between Pakistani identity and British identity. They are neither here nor there.

 

[RajBan]

Anyways just to share my perspective, I don't think that segregation by any community leads to phobia, it may lead to ignorance and discrimination but not phobia and harrasment that we see at times across the globe. The phobia is created by right wing and right leaning media but equally helped by pseudo secular left wing and left leaning media when they try to brush a particular incident or crime under the carpet to gain popularism for their vote-bank.

 

[OMB]

Religious extremism, media sensationalism and general rise in levels of intolerance are to blame and I am talking about all religions here. Not Islamic alone.

Also there are no fixed roles here as this is a vicious cycle. The purported victims become the purported offenders. Anyhow this will also die down over the course of time as people become wise to the ill-effects of these tendencies like the became with reducing church's influence on government.

 

[MenInG]

Worshippers were pelted with eggs outside an east London mosque in a "truly appalling" attack, police said.

Five people were hit with eggs outside the Ilford Islamic Centre in Albert Road, Ilford, around 23:00 BST on Tuesday.

MP for Ilford South Sam Tarry tweeted he was "shocked and saddened" by the "Islamophobic attack".

The attack comes as worshippers mark Ramadan. Police are investigating the incident, the Met said.

Mr Tarry said: "These disgraceful acts of violence and hatred have no place in Ilford, and I hope that the perpetrators face justice as soon as possible."

No arrests have yet been made but patrols have been stepped up in the area, police added.

Det Ch Supt Stephen Clayman said: "This attack on worshippers at the Albert Road mosque is truly appalling and impacts on not only those who were present at the time, but our whole community.

"The council and police are working together to investigate this crime and support residents in the area. We will be closely monitoring the situation.

"There is a strong sense of community spirit in our borough, and such incidents will not be tolerated."

Ilford Islamic Centre has been contacted for comment.

BBC

 

[MenInG]

Prime Minister Imran Khan on Sunday stressed on the importance of a "concerted response" by Muslim countries to rising Islamophobia in the West.

His remarks came during a meeting with Secretary General of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), Dr Yousef A. Al-Othaimeen, in Makkah.

According to a statement by the Prime Minister's Office, it was noted in the meeting that following the premier's letter to heads of states of various Muslim countries, the OIC Council of Foreign Minister (CFM) in Niamey had adopted a unanimous resolution on observing 15 March as International Day to Combat Islamophobia.

PM Imran Khan underscored that a collective endeavour by Muslim leaders is needed "to make sure that the world recognised the special love and reverence that Muslims had for the Holy Prophet (PBUH)".

He also laid emphasis on the fact that no one must be allowed to create any linkage between Islam and terrorism.

"The prime minister called upon the international community to show a common resolve against intolerance and incitement to violence on the basis of religion or belief and work together for inter-faith harmony and peaceful co-existence," read the PM Office statement.

The prime minister also took the opportunity to expressly condemn the Israeli attack against Palestinians in Qibla-e- Awaal, the Al-Aqsa Mosque, and reiterated his call on the international community to take steps to protect the Palestinians and their legitimate rights.

He said the OIC must also "play its rightful role in addressing the serious situation", according to the PM Office.

The secretary general, for his part, shared information about the OIC's activities in support of the Jammu and Kashmir dispute.

"The OIC has steadfastly supported the Kashmir cause and in this context the Niamey CFM culminated with a comprehensive resolution on the issue," the PM Office said in its statement.

The prime minister and secretary general discussed Pakistan-OIC collaboration on a range of issues.

PM Imran Khan stated that Pakistan was looking forward to hosting the 48th Session of the Council of Foreign Minister.

PM meets secretary general of Muslim World League
Separately, PM Imran Khan met the Secretary General of the World Muslim League (WML), Mohammad Al Issa, in Makkah today.

According to the PM Office, the premier highlighted the importance of combating Islamophobia and hoped that the Muslim Ummah would take it up as a unified cause.

He also emphasised that the right to freedom of speech carried with it responsibilities.

These responsibilities under international law include an "obligation not to disseminate racist ideas, defame and ridicule religious symbol and religion personalities", said the PM Office statement.

Referring to Islamophobia, the prime minister stressed the importance of bridging the gap in understanding and communication.

He urged the secretary general to engage all segments of the Western society, in particular the academia, civil society organisations, intelligentsia and politicians.

The premier stressed that the international community "must show a common resolve against intolerance and incitement to violence on the basis of religion or belief and work together for peaceful co-existence".

The secretary general "lauded the PM’s espousal of Ummah’s causes and stated that he enjoyed an eminent stature in the Muslim world".

The secretary general also underscored the salience of close Pakistan-Saudi Arabia relations and congratulated the PM on a highly successful visit, the statement added.

GEO

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Even here what I have seen was, in general, the American Pakistanis have more insight and more knowledgeable with intention to blend in a respected manner than some brit Pakistanis which seem to having identity crisis dueling between Pakistani identity and British identity. They are neither here nor there.

Why is this described as an identity crisis? It is perfectly understandable that a person brought up exposed to two cultures would reflect both. I think you would find this is similar on both sides of the Atlantic, it isn't exclusive to British Pakistanis.

When you say American Pakistanis blend more intentionally, in what manner?

 

[Itachi]

Why is this described as an identity crisis? It is perfectly understandable that a person brought up exposed to two cultures would reflect both. I think you would find this is similar on both sides of the Atlantic, it isn't exclusive to British Pakistanis.

When you say American Pakistanis blend more intentionally, in what manner?

British Pakistani is more rigid when it comes to accepting a different culture, norms than an American Pakistani.

Hence, it is easier to communicate, become acquaintance with an American Pakistani much easier than British Pakistanis.

British Pakistanis, from an outsider, seems like overcompensating while american parts doesnt seem so.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

British Pakistani is more rigid when it comes to accepting a different culture, norms than an American Pakistani.

Hence, it is easier to communicate, become acquaintance with an American Pakistani much easier than British Pakistanis.

British Pakistanis, from an outsider, seems like overcompensating while american parts doesnt seem so.

You would have to be more specific otherwise I have no idea what you are hinting at. British Pakistanis all happily watch British and American shows, nearly all eat British food and many go out and enjoy themselves at theme parks, cinemas, football matches etc. Most of them have Indian friends and acquaintances as well, so not really sure what your experience is based on. What is it about different culture that you think British Pakistanis are failing to accept?

 

[Itachi]

You would have to be more specific otherwise I have no idea what you are hinting at. British Pakistanis all happily watch British and American shows, nearly all eat British food and many go out and enjoy themselves at theme parks, cinemas, football matches etc. Most of them have Indian friends and acquaintances as well, so not really sure what your experience is based on. What is it about different culture that you think British Pakistanis are failing to accept?

Pakistani or Indian sitting in India also watches western shows in netflix. that doesn't mean they have accepted the culture or customs.

Its the identity of blending with local culture.

If you'll notice, I had to write three times writing the same. if it was a Pakistani american, they would have had probably understand the first time I wrote about the subject..

It seems alien to most brit Pakistanis that you'll have to explain in detail in order to make them understand.

blending and assimilation is different than watching some TV shows.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Pakistani or Indian sitting in India also watches western shows in netflix. that doesn't mean they have accepted the culture or customs.

Its the identity of blending with local culture.

If you'll notice, I had to write three times writing the same. if it was a Pakistani american, they would have had probably understand the first time I wrote about the subject..

It seems alien to most brit Pakistanis that you'll have to explain in detail in order to make them understand.

blending and assimilation is different than watching some TV shows.

I think it speaks volumes that you can't even give an example of failure of British Pakistanis to accept British culture. Instead you are reduced to a vague remark that Pakistani Americans would understand what you mean. I didn't just give example of watching some tv shows, unlike you I gave a few different examples, all very specific of how British Pakistanis have adopted British culture.

Now do you have any further clarification or are you going to continue to beat around the bush?

 

[ChTab]

Daily Mail slammed for article claiming there are ‘no go areas’ for white people in Britain

The article, which was published on their website without a byline ran with the lengthy headline: “British towns that are no-go areas for white people: Muslim author’s study of mosques reveals children ‘attacked for being white’, parents making families live under Taliban-like rules and women who can’t leave home without permission”. It summarised the claims made in an upcoming book by writer Ed Husain, that areas like Bradford, Blackburn, Dewsbury and Didsbury had been described by locals as “no go areas” and are sights of racial violence.

“Ed stated that upon arriving in Dewsbury, he feels ‘as though he is in a different country and century,’” the lovely story read.

“In nearby Bradford, Ed was amazed by the lack of white English people in the city, and asked a Muslim taxi driver ‘where they are’”.

It is not the first time the publication has run stories about “no go areas”. In 2014, it parroted claims made by the Chief Inspector of Constabulary that “parts of the UK are becoming no-go areas for police because minority communities are operating their own justice systems”.

In 2016, they published comments made by Hungary’s government (led by Viktor Orban) that migration had created 900 “no-go” zones in the EU.

Meanwhile the “no-go zones” theory, which is spread by global far-right pundits online has been widely debunked.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The Daily Mail is giving it's readers what they want to hear.

 

[sweep_shot]

Daily Fail strikes again.

This should result in a lawsuit.

 

[MenInG]

A mosque in Germany was vandalized Wednesday when unknown attackers painted a swastika on one of its doors, according to a Muslim body head.

Turgut Ulker from Turkish-Islamic Union for Religious Affairs (DITIB) stated that similar attacks on the mosques in Dortmund were carried out last month and these attacks, which have increased recently, worry them.

"We demand that the authorities take urgent action and protect our places of worship. We will continue our fight against racism in Dortmund together with all democratic institutions. We will continue to do our best to ensure that Dortmund remains a city of tolerance," he said.

The police, who examined the mosque, covered the swastika with spray paint.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2342911/mosque-in-germany-vandalized-with-racist-graffiti

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I want to congratulate the Muslim Ummah today as our voice against the rising tide of Islamophobia has been heard & the UN has adopted a landmark resolution introduced by Pakistan, on behalf of OIC, designating 15 March as International Day to Combat Islamophobia.</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1503753267209449472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today UN has finally recognised the grave challenge confronting the world: of Islamophobia, respect for religious symbols & practices & of curtailing systematic hate speech & discrimination against Muslims. Next challenge is to ensure implementation of this landmark resolution.</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1503753272251027456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote>
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[MenInG]

Police are investigating allegations of a racially aggravated assault after a group of worshippers were injured in an attack outside a mosque in East Ham.

Officers were called at about 21:00 BST on Tuesday to reports a number of men, armed with bottles and hockey sticks, had attacked members of the Masjid Bilal and Islamic Centre.

A bin containing paper was set on fire outside the building on Pilgrims Way.

A number of people had minor injuries, but did not require treatment.

The Met Police said officers searched but found no trace of the suspects and no arrests have yet been made.

The force said it would carry out extra patrols in the area.

BBC

 

[gazza619]

Only a hate monger can blame muslims for Islamophobia.

 

[Varun]

Islam I think has created a situation where it is easy for non-Muslims to blacklist the entire basket on the basis of a few bad apples.

It doesn't seem to happen in the case of other religions eg: Christianity. There it remains restricted to the bad apple in question - be it a shooter in America or a right wing nutcase in Christchurch. The whole population of Christians - a similar number to Muslims - isn't put in the spotlight when this happens.

Maybe Islam can take a leaf out of Christianity's book in this example?

 

[HappyWarsFan]

Yes. Muslims are often too extreme.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Yes, they should be like kitchen washing machines. Fully integrated

 

[MenInG]

Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, and TikTok have failed to act on nearly 90 per cent of anti-Muslim and Islamophobic content on their platforms, a new report alleges.

Research from the Centre for Countering Digital Hate, published on Thursday, reported 530 posts, viewed 25 million times, that contained dehumanising content of Muslims via racist caricatures, conspiracies, and false claims.

This included Instagram posts that depicted Muslims as pigs and called for their expulsion from Europe, comparisons between Islam and cancer that should be “treated with radiation” on a photo of an atomic blast, tweets on Twitter that claimed Muslim migration was part of a plot to change the politics of other countries, and many more.

Many of these had offensive hashtags such as #deathtoislam, #islamiscancer and #raghead, which the CCDH used to identify posts to report.

The CCDH reported 125 posts to Facebook, with only seven acted on; 227 to Instagram, with only 32 acted on; 50 to TikTok with 18 acted on; 105 to Twitter with only three acted on; and 23 videos submitted to YouTube, none of which were reported on.

Facebook also hosted numerous groups dedicated to Islamophobia, with names such as “ISLAM means Terrorism”, “Stop Islamization of America”, and “Boycott Halal Certification in Australia”. Many of these groups have thousands of people in them, with 361,922 members counted in total, predominantly in the UK, US, and Australia. At time of writing, all these groups remained online despite being reported to Facebook.

Researchers also identified 20 posts featuring the Christchurch terrorist, of which just 6 were acted upon, despite Facebook, Instagram and Twitter making public commitments to removing terrorist and extremist content.

The shooter also published a 74-page manifesto which railed against Muslims and immigrants, which was quickly spread online.

At the time, Facebook said it removed 1.5 million videos showing the New Zealand mosque attacks in the first 24 hours following the mass shootings.

The video, which was streamed on Facebook, was originally viewed 4,000 times with social media sites struggling to take down reuploaded footage.

Many of the uploaders made small modifications to the video, such as adding watermarks or logos to the footage or altering the size of the clips, to defeat YouTube’s ability to detect and remove it.

Facebook’s community standards forbids “a direct attack against people on the basis of... race [or] ethnicity”, as does Instagram. Twitter states that users “may not promote violence against or directly attack or threaten other people on the basis of race, ethnicity [and] national origin”. YouTube states that “hate speech is not allowed on YouTube”, and TikTok “do[es] not permit content that contains hate speech or involves hateful behavior, and we remove it from our platform.”

The Independent has reached out to all social media companies for comment.

“We welcome this report, which shines an important light on the unacceptable abuse many Muslims receive online every day. Social media companies have to do more to take meaningful action against all forms of hatred and abuse their users experience online”, Kemi Badenoch, the minister for communities and equalities, said in a statement.

Racism against Muslims is not the only hate speech that has slipped through social media companies’ moderation net. The Independent found that antisemitic conspiracy theories still get millions of views in a report from October 2020, despite the platform banning misinformation about Jews.

“We’ve always been open about the fact that we won’t catch every instance of inappropriate content or account activity, and we recognise that we have more to do to meet the standards we have set for ourselves today. This is why we continue to invest at scale in our Trust and Safety operations, which includes both technologies and a team of thousands of people around the world,” TikTok said at the time.

In the same year, researchers found that Facebook posts and pages spreading fascism are being “actively recommended” by its algorithm. In response, Facebook said it was updating its hate speech policies.

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/facebook-twitter-islamophobia-muslim-posts-b2066833.html

 

[Firebat]

Doctor 'traumatised' woman with request to remove veil

A doctor who left a female patient "traumatised" when he told her to remove her veil has an "impaired" fitness to practise, a tribunal ruled.

Dr Keith Wolverson was dishonest in his response to the woman's complaint and also wrote inappropriate comments about several patient's language skills, it was concluded.

At the time, in 2018, he was working as a locum in Derby and Stoke-on-Trent.

Dr Wolverson had denied his actions had impaired his fitness to practise.

Sanctions may now be imposed on his registration by the Medical Practitioners Tribunal Service (MPTS).

The medic had been working in urgent care centres in the cities, having qualified as a GP in 1999.

He admitted recording inappropriate comments about patients' English language skills between January and April 2018, the tribunal said.

They included "I do not understand a word these parents are saying" and "absolutely abysmal English".

While the tribunal found there was no evidence the doctor let his personal views affect his treatment, it decided the patients would have been shocked and upset if they read the notes.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-61708988

 

[Champ_Pal]

Complaining to Facebook/Twitter/TikTok/Insta is useless. How many videos and posts will be removed? There are millions of such things and everyday thousands more are getting added.

The best that Muslim scholars can do is to upload their own content and explain to people why they are correct. Asking for banning youtube channels and facebook posts is pointless. In this day and age no one can be stopped from expressing their views.

 

[Stewie]

Nobody has been able to define what version of Islam is acceptable. Who is to decide which is the correct interpretation? Bombings in the West along with some verses in Quran to me is the driving factor in Islamophobia. News outlets also play a major role in fanning the flames and keep non-muslims doubting the intentions of Muslims all over the world.

Do not confuse the inability to find a well documented truth with poorly defined/confusing concepts.

For Muslims and Non-Muslims alike, what is acceptable is easily available in Quran, a book easily accessible in multiple languages world wide. One just has to read it.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Complaining to Facebook/Twitter/TikTok/Insta is useless. How many videos and posts will be removed? There are millions of such things and everyday thousands more are getting added.

The best that Muslim scholars can do is to upload their own content and explain to people why they are correct. Asking for banning youtube channels and facebook posts is pointless. In this day and age no one can be stopped from expressing their views.

I think there is penty of content from scholars already available if anyone wants to look for it. But everyone has a right to complain about offensive stuff, even Muslims.

 

[MenInG]

The UK's anti-terrorism strategy, dubbed Prevent, is facing criticism from a UN special rapporteur for "targeting Muslim communities" ahead of a controversial independent review.

Fionnuala Ni Aolain, the UN special rapporteur on the promotion and protection of human rights while countering terrorism, said the strategy has had a "negative and discriminatory effect on Muslim communities" and its implementation is "inconsistent" with the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child.

While the effect of the initiative "has not been felt equally by all children," Ni Aolain said, "minority ethnic or religious communities" were impacted in particular.

She said the UN "has a number of concerns about the Prevent strategy" and that she addressed these kinds of government strategies used by the UK and other countries with the organisation's Human Rights Council.

Since becoming law in 2011, the strategy has been criticised by equality and rights groups for the challenge that it is believed to pose to liberties and the justice system's foundations.

There have been regular calls for the strategy's removal due to its discriminatory nature against Muslims and because the UK government has failed to provide any evidence that it prevents terrorism.

"In fact, we know of at least 13 people who have gone on to commit terrorist attacks and they were known to Prevent prior to their attacks and Prevent did not stop them," said Layla Aitlhadj, the director of Prevent Watch, a campaign group that supports people affected by the strategy.

Under Prevent, public authorities such as schools, colleges, universities, and health services are ordered to monitor students, patients, and clients for potential signs of radicalisation in children as young as four.

Thousands of referrals are made each year, and the highest proportion of Prevent referrals comes from within the education sector.

One such case was that of a 12-year-old who wishes to remain anonymous.

Among several others, she was reported by her school to counter-terrorism police after showing sympathy towards Palestinians.

"An assistant teacher took me out of my lesson and she led me to an empty room with a long table, and there was a policewoman sitting on one end of the table and I was advised to sit on the other end before the teacher walked out and closed the door behind her.

"I was so scared to the point, I was trying to hold in tears," she said, recounting that the policewoman "didn't even explain what was happening and sounded like she was threatening me".

She was told by the officer that she would be taken to the police station for further interrogation. But in the end, the decision was made that they would question her at school.

"I thought it meant I would be going to prison. But overall, it was my first experience face to face with the police at 12 years old," she said.

After the interrogation, she called her father while crying, thinking that he knew what happened.

"I found out I was being put in a room with a police officer with no warning and no explanation without any of my parents' permission," she said.

Read more at

https://tribune.com.pk/story/236343...s-discriminatory-effect-on-muslim-communities