Are World Cups becoming too predictable now?

[ElIdolo]

2011 WC final between Sri Lanka and India was predictable. So was Australia vs NZ in 2015 because both of them were the hosts. My point is that now its becoming way too predictable and ICC needs to do something about it.

 

[Hitman]

The better team won on both the occasions you mentioned. Both those team were easily stronger than their opponents.

 

[AAli98]

If aus v nz final was in say auckland who would have won?

 

[CricFan2012]

If aus v nz final was in say auckland who would have won?

Australia.

McCullum played such a brainless shot in the final, no doubt he would have done the same.

Aussies tend to step it up in the finals if you look at their track record.

 

[AAli98]

Australia.

McCullum played such a brainless shot in the final, no doubt he would have done the same.

Aussies tend to step it up in the finals if you look at their track record.

Fair enough but NZ beat Aus earlier in NZ.. would have been a closer game if final was in NZ.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Only 2003 was utterly predictable because of the dominance of Australia going into that World Cup.

 

[DeadBall]

What about CT17? That too was a WC of sorts.

 

[Hitman]

What about CT17? That too was a WC of sorts.

A tournament that has been on the verge of being scrapped since the last 10 years or so is equivalent to a World Cup?

 

[DeadBall]

A tournament that has been on the verge of being scrapped since the last 10 years or so is equivalent to a World Cup?

Doesn't matter if it was going to be scrapped or not. It had the top 8 teams in the World and that qualifies as a World Cup.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

What about CT17? That too was a WC of sorts.

LOL ... bro i know you people won it but please...

 

[Mr.Q]

Doesn't matter if it was going to be scrapped or not. It had the top 8 teams in the World and that qualifies as a World Cup.

It's posts like these that trigger the totally unnecessary 'fluke' argument.

 

[Hitman]

Doesn't matter if it was going to be scrapped or not. It had the top 8 teams in the World and that qualifies as a World Cup.

I'm not even going to waste my time giving an argument. Once again ..... )

 

[DeadBall]

LOL ... bro i know you people won it but please...

Thats why I said "of sorts"

 

[ManFan]

India beats Pakistan in Group B opener
ENG fall apart in shambles
NZ are beasts in GS
SA choke in SF
AUS win Final
Repeat

 

[DeadBall]

It's posts like these that trigger the totally unnecessary 'fluke' argument.

I did say of sorts in my original post. However just for the sake of argument it did have the top teams playing a round robin phase, quarter finals, semis and finals. Also I would like to add that our team can in no way regularly win such tournaments but I was just replying to the post about WC tournaments being too predictable.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

India beats Pakistan in Group B opener
ENG fall apart in shambles
NZ are beasts in GS
SA choke in SF
AUS win Final
Repeat

Not gonna happen this time.
Australia will not play semis this time.

 

[English August]

2011 WC final between Sri Lanka and India was predictable. So was Australia vs NZ in 2015 because both of them were the hosts. My point is that now its becoming way too predictable and ICC needs to do something about it.

How exactly was 2011 final predictable? SL put up a good score and India lost SRT and Sehwag quickly (and those guys were in brilliant form in the earlier games). By no means was the game in India's bag at that point. Gambhir and Dhoni had to steady the ship to eventually get us there.

It was a great final in fact.

 

[Mr.Q]

I did say of sorts in my original post. However just for the sake of argument it did have the top teams playing a round robin phase, quarter finals, semis and finals. Also I would like to add that our team can in no way regularly win such tournaments but I was just replying to the post about WC tournaments being too predictable.

Don't want to compare a WC and CT. But I think we should just stick to discussing WCs only since that's the topic.
Mud fights will begin if CT is dragged into this.

 

[AAli98]

Nxt wrld cup will be ind pak or Aus.. the rest will do what they normally do.

 

[Hasan123]

For the most part ODI cricket as a whole is becoming predictable. Need to find a way to get a balance between bat and ball.

 

[Syed1]

For the most part ODI cricket as a whole is becoming predictable. Need to find a way to get a balance between bat and ball.

There was plenty of balance between bat and ball before when there was only one new ball and the boundaries weren't at the edge of the 30 yard circle

 

[MMHS]

LO game, as a whole is becoming predictable - hardly any nail bitters these days.


These is because the stability/competitiveness of a system happens when there are balance among it's elements - in this case bat vs ball. We have to go back to 250 par game, which allows both teams with bat or ball to make multiple comebacks in one game. These days, for more than 90% games, I can see the winner inside 85 overs; probably more than half the games (between two evenly matched sides) are predictable by mid break.

 

[Aman]

Yeah, there aren't many tournament teams.

I can guarantee one of India, Aus or Pakistan will win the WC.

SA and England will choke, the rest just not strong enough.

 

[Aman]

India beats Pakistan in Group B opener
ENG fall apart in shambles
NZ are beasts in GS
SA choke in SF
AUS win Final
Repeat

it's funny how this has remained true across generations.

I wonder when we'll get our next new winner, seems like India and Aus have been winning everything for the last 2 decades.

 

[jnaveen1980]

If SA hosts world cup your myth will explode lol

 

[giri26]

I don't think just by the evidence of the last two world cups you can say that World Cup has become predictable. The only time it was predictable was in 2003 and 2007, as no one could challenge Australia at that time. The World Cup next year in England will be competitive. Any team can win there in spite of the hosts being one of the top contenders to lift the title. There is nothing predictable in LO cricket where the top 8 teams are involved.

 

[Slog]

I don't think just by the evidence of the last two world cups you can say that World Cup has become predictable. The only time it was predictable was in 2003 and 2007, as no one could challenge Australia at that time. The World Cup next year in England will be competitive. Any team can win there in spite of the hosts being one of the top contenders to lift the title. There is nothing predictable in LO cricket where the top 8 teams are involved.

I agree

In 2003 and 2007 every man and his dog knew Australia would win the WC.

And there werent any hiccups in the march to the WC either. They won every game lol!

In 2011 and 2015 you had favorites but it wasnt a given. Both winners lost matches too

 

[Hasan2K8]

Next world cup 2021 in India. Definitely a South Asian side winning it. Likely to be, India again.

 

[Ab Fan]

Yes to an extent, its predictable.

2019 WC - Aus/Ind/ Eng( only because of home pitches- if they fail this time too, they are as good as SA in ICC tournaments)
2023 WC - India

Pakistan are unpredictable. They also have a good chance to be fair. Cant leave them either.

 

[Itachi]

Yes to an extent, its predictable.

2019 WC - Aus/Ind/ Eng( only because of home pitches- if they fail this time too, they are as good as SA in ICC tournaments)
2023 WC - India

Pakistan are unpredictable. They also have a good chance to be fair. Cant leave them either.

Not in world cup.

In almost all world cup, I have seen internal conflicts between players and management of Pakistan and by one or the other way, it will play its role. After exit of Imran, Pakistan have no leader which could control the chaos.

 

[Aman]

India could end up winning 3 (2011, 2019 and 2023) of the last 4

1999 - Aus
2003- Aus
2007 - Aus
2011 - India
2015 - Aus
2019 - Aus/India, England are favorites but I can't see them handling the pressure
2023- India/Pakistan

 

[barah_admi]

India most definitely are not winning in England. I guarantee it.

Anyway, as for this thread, I think the world cups were more predictable in 2003 and 07 because we all knew Australia was going to win. They blew away every team in almost every match.

People may forget but the build up to 2011 was the most uncertain and no one was quite sure who should be favs. India would be because of home conditions, SL and Pak because it was in Asia and SA had put together a really good team. By the time we got to the semis, Pakistan made India look pretty average and if it wasnt for the 4 dropped catches, India would have been out for less than 200 and even Pak can chase that lol

2015 was slightly more straightforward, Aus in Aus of course but it was less predictable than 03/07. We also have to remember, India once again arrived with huge hype and people forgot they had a semi against NZ. Does anyone remember the tv and internet ads? Yet NZ not only beat Aus in a group game but got to the final.

2019 is the most unpredictable yet. Eng are the best ODI side for almost 3 years now but their lack of tournament ability might come through. Pak have always done well here so that helps, but it also helps Aus, NZ and possibly SA but they mostly choke. Then theres India, wit h2 good tournaments in Eng behind them. Thats about 5 favourites, which you couldnt have said in 03 or 07.