Such an insightful comment.
What are the conditions?
A level contract
No. PCB has bowed down to one player.
Are you trolling or serious?
Kinda both.
Fair enough.
But now Babar isn’t captain.
I don't want rizwan, but with the other 3, Probs shaheen, it's unfair to just drop him instantly.
Yeah Shan does not even make the team as a batsmen currently.
Also once again, Imad had one good season in PSL as captain where they won. Overall, he has less than a 50% win rate as captain in PSL. The other 3 players I mentioned are all much much much more successful than Imad as a captain in PSL.
Also @mominsaigol you said you did not care about past performances as much as you cared about recent form. By that logic, Shadab is by far the best choice for captain since he won the PSL most recently and beat Babar and Rizwan?
Well that's a bit different since we never talked about who should be captain lol.
I don't want imad to be captain man
. Just like I obviously don't want him to be a prime minister.
@160KPHI don't want imad to be captain man
I just rather choose him if fans are seriously considering Bobby to return as captain and are actually saying Bobby was the best captain in psl.
In terms of captaincy the 3 you mentioned are superior as captains I don't disagree.
I'd prefer shaheen to still be given a rope. But if it comes between shadab and rizwan, then I won't be a hypocrite, rizwan's current form in his position is still superior to the role shadab fulfils and rizwan was the finalist captain so rizzu should get it if shaheen is booted as shadab doesn't warrant a place.
I don't like rizwan but that doesn't mean I'll be hypocritcal if shaheen is booted, if my options are between rizwan and shadab then rizzu should get it.
.what '' conditions '' ?
I agree with a lot of your takes here.@160KPH
Let's actually analyse the options, and I'll keep the political hate out of it since its clear you're not a part of any babar cult, you only care about performances and merit and actually form very very good arguments so full respect,.
Anyway here goes unbiased version.
Option 1: Bring babar back
Despite the bias that babar was the best captain this psl, he wasn't, during the knockout game, he lost from a winning position, he scolded the team which put pressure on everyone leading to missed opportunities, drop catches and overthrown which is what happened in the 2021 semi final as well,
He burned out david willey rather then saving him until the end, opting to give jamal the over who was expensive the whole innings.
saim ayub was not a good decison, Saim's bowling miracles would have eventually given out as saim isnt a full fledged bowler and shpuld be used as a part timing 6th or 7th option, the saim strategy would have backfired eventually. This is like if dhoni alwya s asked ishant sharma to finish the last over for him, that strategybwould have backfired, theirs a reason dhoni only gambled once in the ct 2013 final, and even then dhoni gambled cause ishanr sharma suprisngly was good that day deapite usually being a trundler.
other then that, Babar hasnt won anything, not a single thing as captain, plus hes beyond stubborn and egotistical as a captain never bothering to change the winning 11 until it got butchered, panicking at the last moment, making memes etc etc.
As a player Bobby is fine, amd he shpuld remain as just a player for our squad. Heck make him the senior batsmen and give him that role model status but he doesn't deserve captaincy anymore.
Option 2: Imad Waseem
Other then the fact that this would be super funny for me, and i cant wait to watch his haters erupt into a ball of fire, logically it doesnt make sense.
not only would it make the PCB look like amateurs which they already have a reputation of,
it would just cause animosity amongst the dug out and currently a gelled team is needed. Imad atm has such negative press, that if he drinks a cup of water, people will make an advertisement about how imad is spreading cholera across Pakistan.
Imad was always a better player then nawaz, all this stats stats nonsense means nothing, a simple eye test shows nawaz is not a batter nor a bowler, hes a joke and 2023 proved that, saying nawaz should replace imad for his 42, os like saying Haris shpuld replace babar as he outperformed him in 2022 wc.
All these stats arguments are completly nonsense in hindsoght, it backfired for players like imam, Shadab, nawaz, and most of the medicore lot we got.
but as a captain historically Imad has been AlrightE, rn logically it doesnt make much sense, nor would it gell the team and just cause total Carnage, we'd get more humiliated then 2023 wc.
Option 3: Shadab
Heres the thing, Shadab isnt that bad as a captain and my past statement that i made about his captaincy decisions regarding Afghanistan i take back.
Shadab wasn't given a functioning team, they were all newbies and forced to face a team that in recent years gave the current wc 2023 winners a fright.
The fact that he won a single game is still a Testimony that he's a decent captain, his own captaincy skills in the field weren't that bad either.
Especially when even our full power team was spending a decade fluking victories against Afghanistan and eventjally they stomped and butchered our A team in the world cup. Considering what shadab was given, babar would would have lost 3-0 lol.
But as a player sheddy is horrible, hos psl superstar heroics mean nothing if anytime he comes to international hes on par with joe root as a bowler and is a virtual tailender as a batsmen. Shadab isnt even close to people like hafeez and malik.
hafeez and malik i consider medicore, the fact that shadab isnt even 2% of their capabilities juat shows what his standards are.
Option 4: Rizwan
This is going to cause an entire war. Heres the rhing about rizwan, Saya corps aside, as a player hes okay, i get pissed off when people shove me with statemwnts such as rizwan is top 3 in the world etc etc or that his wc performances is the greatest of all time, hes clearly overhyped to the moon, but as a player
Hes fine, even though Sri lanka was the weakest attack in the world cup, I don't see Sarfi achieving that amd haris wouldn't be able to stay at the crease even if it was a weak attack. Haris sohail was superior to rizzu as a bat in 2019,
However rizwan has managed to chase down 200 scores in t20 with babar, he did deal with India for a 10 wicket win, he did play a crucial knock in the 2022 sf against nz etc etc. All that deserves praise.
Lastly hes a good keeper, his jumps have saved multiple boundaries whereas if azam Khan was behind the stumps then Allah khair.
Problem is it doesn't ignore all his faults, as captain He just like babar srubbornly refuses to try different combinations and keeps himself at opening which causes problems.
at opening rizwan botched the final against sri lanka, i dont how a side that gives you 11 wides at the start bringing the tarhet to 157, and a player who gets his 50, still puts you in a position where you need 60 of 24? And you never come close to the mark.
Same with psl, his final performance as an opener was trash. On top of that he's horrible at figuring out LBW's etc etc and his overly friendly and relaxed attitude while better then babar's aggression, creates too much of a relaxed field, players will be caught sleeping like this, literally the amount of penalties this man received in the psl is a testament to that, the helmet penalty is beyond silly.
Option 5: Shan
Only bringing him up cause hes a meme, moving on.
Option 6: Shaheen
Shaheen's form is nowhere near his 2019 self, and he flunked the psl, he hasnt had a great start to his captaincy career. Only benefit you cam give him is that its early days thats all, and he was once our star bowler so if he can replicate his 2019 magic and his past psl captaincy performances then he's a great choice.
Also tbf to him LQ this season wasn't completly his fault, he is to blame yes but the coaching and staff itself was beyond incompetent and provided zero support to shaheen.
Option 7: Pick someone brand new.
No comment on this.
Based of all options we have, it's either shadab, Shaheen or rizwan.
Best options logically are shadab or rizwan based of psl,
But shaheen makes the most moral sense if you're planning to build an actual team.
Edit: No i am not aupporting rizwan or shadab, they both suck, but shadab is a worse player, if it cones down to these 2 then rizzu i guess. Ya Allah please take of our cricket
This is what I also want to know.
That's some deal.
He is not special, he is bang average and has barely won Pakistan 1-2 games in his entire career.
PCB certainly think he's special. That's why the special treatment.
He will be forgotten after one or two games. Story of his career. I cannot believe Pakistan fans have fallen so low as to treat Imad Wasim as a messiah.
How do you know they haven’t said that ? Nobody has guaranteed him the playing 11 but right now Pak need their strongest squad for Caribbean. He’s only made clear he doesn’t want a central contract and it’s just the t20 he’s interested in. He’s 35, unfit and there is a huge jump from PSL to a t20 World Cup. He might not make the cut.
That is ridiculous if it's true. A level contract for a T20 only player who is likely playing his last T20 World Cup ?
Just saying after shaheen, if shadab can improve his performance and not be a liability, he's actually a good captain.
Worst PSL season where he won Islamabad all their important matches?
Tbh, this feels more like something West Indies would do. Which is let your best players stay out of the team for the entire year and then select them before the World Cup. But I agree there is nothing to be gained from antagonizing players who can just walk away. The problem is that they are not updating their NOC policy which shows poor thinking and lack of foresight from the new chairman.
chairman made it clear today, no concession for imad or any other player.
had peshawar zalmi won the tournament it would have been the best psl tournament
You can't seem to form a coherent argument here. Cricketers smoking is nothing new. Ben Stokes had a smoke during the World Cup final. Overall quality does not matter. They won the tournament. That's all that matters.
He actually delivered in all 3 finals matches. And the one in which they chased down 230. So maybe get your facts straight first. And no one is expecting him to be "the saviour" lmao. But alot of people think that our T20 team could use another player at the World Cup who actually knows how to handle pressure and deliver in tough situations.
DV , what is important is that these new '' terms / conditions '' are applied uniformly to all players . ps : Amir is a big NO imo .
Lmao yup he definitely handled the pressure and delivered last night.
He's just old and washed. 35 officially and his actual age is probably close to 40, what else do you expect from him?
I think the running is him being injured now. He was fine in PSL it didn't hinder him. This a genuine injury
He was born in the UK. So his age is actually his age.
His bowling was okay. This pitch had variable bounce and speed. Ball did not rise at expected height. That is why he couldn't touch any of the Axar's deliveries. Just remember David Miller played 16th over maiden against Netherlands against Van meekeren at New york. He was on 33(36) when he started that over. ended with 33(42). But he has no six hitting skills like Miller. Pakistan should back him just for his bowling. But he shouldn't bat above 7.
