"As a captain and leader, you must lead by example and make sacrifices yourself": Mohammad Rizwan

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Mohammad Rizwan in a presser today answered following questions:

Q: What message did you send to others by dropping yourself from the team today?

As a captain and leader, you must lead by example and make sacrifices yourself. Whether it's through performance or other aspects, the captain needs to set the standard. I shared this idea with the staff, management, and players. With the Zimbabwe series approaching and our abundance of talent in the T20 format, we wanted to give our new crop of young and talented players a chance. To provide proper opportunities to players like Haseebullah and Usman Khan, who were batting lower in the order, I decided to drop myself from the playing XI. Every series is important, but when you've already lost a series, you need to look ahead. That's why I gave them this opportunity.

Q: Do guys like yourself, Babar, Shaheen and Naseem fit in the T20I team given the modern nature of game of cricket?

I shall answer it in this manner. If you observe recently the England team had visited Pakistan and we defeated them in the (Test) series via a tactical point. They scored 800 in the first innings and we scored 600 runs but still lost. So later in the series we defeated them with a tactical change in our approach not with a change in our game plan. As you would have witnessed, we won the later match owing to a brilliant performance from Saud Shakeel who scored 70 runs through singles in a Test match whereas at the same time in modern times, teams are sticking to Bazball approach. Even in the Sydney T20I game that we lost owing to a drop of a lot of catches, the scenario of the whole series would have been different had we won there. While on the same pitch at one point Australia was 50/2 and then we staged a strong comeback so I would say that in regard to modern day cricket I lay more emphasis on demand of the game than anything else. So if the demand of a pitch is a 200 plus total and we are not making it then you guys can blame us for not doing well for Pakistan team but on a Sydney pitch the scenario was different and the demand of the pitch varies everywhere. Even Australian captain, Inglis was saying the same that the conditions at pitch were more similar to a Test match. But the bottom line is that we are working hard to improve our game and hopefully God will help us in this pursuit.

Q: Can Pakistan rely on young inexperienced squad to deliver results in Zimbabwe?

We will have to because the bunch of players that we are taking to Zimbabwe are all talented players and God willing we would get something great out from this setup for the better future composition of our team. We got whitewashed here in ( Australia) the T20I series. But in such situations when you are sending in an inexperienced side then your bigger emphasis is on getting the stars for the future rather than on results. Also if you have observed, the bigger teams make such experiments before big tournaments and that is why they come into the tournament at the back of series losses but do well there. Also in this thing is a message for our six mentors on how these (inexperienced) players performance and on which aspect (of their game) they can work. I think we need to work on the game awareness of our upcoming players.

Q: Why doesn't the Pakistan team learn from their mistakes and keeps on repeating them series after series?

It isn't right to suggest that Pakistan is at the bottom of the table in fitness, fielding, batting and every other domain because if this would have been the case then different commentators wouldn't have praised our players and on learning aspect, yes we try to learn from our mistakes.
 
A leader who plays a test match while opening in t20s. Sick of his lies.

Don't know if it's pointed out or not. What was the need for him to come out to field today ahead of players like omair bin yousuf or Arafat Minhas? Both hasn't played a true and selfless leader would have sent them out for the experience.
 
What a sacrifice dropping himself from the team lol. The guy is talking as if he is some leader of an army and risked his life for his country.
 
Hypocrite

Why don’t you lead by example and deport yourself out of Pakistan?

His replies are all you need know, the guy is completely clueless. He’s basically saying that T20’s should be approached like a Test match, what a clown.

And he would love to be the first on the plane to Zimbabwe.
 
There were people like @Kianig89 and @Usman Chadda asking me how I felt when this guy was appointed captain

I told them straight up that I am genuinely happy, because I know that the end is near now.

I’m so glad that people are now seeing through his lies and hypocrisy!

This guy sat out because he didn’t have the cojones to face up to a 3-0 whitewash having made the foolish claim to wanting to whitewash Australia! All part of their nature! At least Bobsy didn’t go hiding when starting into the face of a whitewash like this piece of work did!
 
There were people like @Kianig89 and @Usman Chadda asking me how I felt when this guy was appointed captain

I told them straight up that I am genuinely happy, because I know that the end is near now.

I’m so glad that people are now seeing through his lies and hypocrisy!

This guy sat out because he didn’t have the cojones to face up to a 3-0 whitewash having made the foolish claim to wanting to whitewash Australia! All part of their nature! At least Bobsy didn’t go hiding when starting into the face of a whitewash like this piece of work did!
He surely didn't perform well as a player in this series but his performance as a captain ensured fighting from Pakistan. Visible also from today's outcome
 
Q: Do guys like yourself, Babar, Shaheen and Naseem fit in the T20I team given the modern nature of game of cricket?

I shall answer it in this manner. If you observe recently the England team had visited Pakistan and we defeated them in the (Test) series via a tactical point. They scored 800 in the first innings and we scored 600 runs but still lost. So later in the series we defeated them with a tactical change in our approach not with a change in our game plan. As you would have witnessed, we won the later match owing to a brilliant performance from Saud Shakeel who scored 70 runs through singles in a Test match whereas at the same time in modern times, teams are sticking to Bazball approach. Even in the Sydney T20I game that we lost owing to a drop of a lot of catches, the scenario of the whole series would have been different had we won there. While on the same pitch at one point Australia was 50/2 and then we staged a strong comeback so I would say that in regard to modern day cricket I lay more emphasis on demand of the game than anything else. So if the demand of a pitch is a 200 plus total and we are not making it then you guys can blame us for not doing well for Pakistan team but on a Sydney pitch the scenario was different and the demand of the pitch varies everywhere. Even Australian captain, Inglis was saying the same that the conditions at pitch were more similar to a Test match. But the bottom line is that we are working hard to improve our game and hopefully God will help us in this pursuit.


Mamoon school of hogwosh
 
There were people like @Kianig89 and @Usman Chadda asking me how I felt when this guy was appointed captain

I told them straight up that I am genuinely happy, because I know that the end is near now.

I’m so glad that people are now seeing through his lies and hypocrisy!

This guy sat out because he didn’t have the cojones to face up to a 3-0 whitewash having made the foolish claim to wanting to whitewash Australia! All part of their nature! At least Bobsy didn’t go hiding when starting into the face of a whitewash like this piece of work did!

As much as Ramiz & Misbah, Rizwan equally played a pivotal role in the personality change of Babar Azam and had a huge impact on how he approaches his batting. It can’t be a coincidence that Babar has regressed under the friendship with Rizwan and their on field partnership, Rizwan bought Babar down to his level and made him think they are equals (Anatar & Celebrimbor vibe again). And look he tried today with the Bat after the fans rightly gave him a big thappah a few days ago while Rizwan kept pipping him up. And yes bro, Bobsy was always there to tell us we were 10 run shorts, ah you don’t know what you have until it’s gone? now the new captain hides in the toilet instead.
 
I'm talking about his captaincy, we lost 2nd T20I by 13 runs in comparison lost today in a one-sided affair
Oh yar khuda ka khauf karo!

The whole series has been a banking on Harris Rauf’s good bowling and breakthroughs. There is no captaincy genius when you have one guy just bowling purple patch throughout. You should be thankful Rauf got that double wicket breakthrough and you were not chasing 200+ at Sydney! Call a spade a spade. Flapping your arms around and moving one fielder in and out of the circle is not genius captaincy! What’s the point of it all if you are going to bat like it’s Test cricket and set a garbage tone?
 
Oh yar khuda ka khauf karo!

The whole series has been a banking on Harris Rauf’s good bowling and breakthroughs. There is no captaincy genius when you have one guy just bowling purple patch throughout. You should be thankful Rauf got that double wicket breakthrough and you were not chasing 200+ at Sydney! Call a spade a spade. Flapping your arms around and moving one fielder in and out of the circle is not genius captaincy! What’s the point of it all if you are going to bat like it’s Test cricket and set a garbage tone?
Ok Rana G, but don't you think it's too early to open fire at him
 
Not a bad tour Kaptaana. Created history in ODI's.

Best of captains always try to groom a good set of players. And I trust Kaptaana to do the same.

People are blaming him for running away but the same group of clueless fans and media would already be calling for Rizwan's head if his replacement had scored a few 20's and 30's but still he had the courage and selflessness to keep his team ahead of himself.

There's no respite from the haters. Keep going!
 
Rizwan achieved what Inzimam, Wasim Akram, Younis Khan, Shahid Afridi, Misbah & Sarfraz failed to achieve.

@Rana
 
Mohammad Rizwan in a presser today answered following questions:

Q: What message did you send to others by dropping yourself from the team today?

As a captain and leader, you must lead by example and make sacrifices yourself. Whether it's through performance or other aspects, the captain needs to set the standard. I shared this idea with the staff, management, and players. With the Zimbabwe series approaching and our abundance of talent in the T20 format, we wanted to give our new crop of young and talented players a chance. To provide proper opportunities to players like Haseebullah and Usman Khan, who were batting lower in the order, I decided to drop myself from the playing XI. Every series is important, but when you've already lost a series, you need to look ahead. That's why I gave them this opportunity.

Q: Do guys like yourself, Babar, Shaheen and Naseem fit in the T20I team given the modern nature of game of cricket?

I shall answer it in this manner. If you observe recently the England team had visited Pakistan and we defeated them in the (Test) series via a tactical point. They scored 800 in the first innings and we scored 600 runs but still lost. So later in the series we defeated them with a tactical change in our approach not with a change in our game plan. As you would have witnessed, we won the later match owing to a brilliant performance from Saud Shakeel who scored 70 runs through singles in a Test match whereas at the same time in modern times, teams are sticking to Bazball approach. Even in the Sydney T20I game that we lost owing to a drop of a lot of catches, the scenario of the whole series would have been different had we won there. While on the same pitch at one point Australia was 50/2 and then we staged a strong comeback so I would say that in regard to modern day cricket I lay more emphasis on demand of the game than anything else. So if the demand of a pitch is a 200 plus total and we are not making it then you guys can blame us for not doing well for Pakistan team but on a Sydney pitch the scenario was different and the demand of the pitch varies everywhere. Even Australian captain, Inglis was saying the same that the conditions at pitch were more similar to a Test match. But the bottom line is that we are working hard to improve our game and hopefully God will help us in this pursuit.

Q: Can Pakistan rely on young inexperienced squad to deliver results in Zimbabwe?

We will have to because the bunch of players that we are taking to Zimbabwe are all talented players and God willing we would get something great out from this setup for the better future composition of our team. We got whitewashed here in ( Australia) the T20I series. But in such situations when you are sending in an inexperienced side then your bigger emphasis is on getting the stars for the future rather than on results. Also if you have observed, the bigger teams make such experiments before big tournaments and that is why they come into the tournament at the back of series losses but do well there. Also in this thing is a message for our six mentors on how these (inexperienced) players performance and on which aspect (of their game) they can work. I think we need to work on the game awareness of our upcoming players.

Q: Why doesn't the Pakistan team learn from their mistakes and keeps on repeating them series after series?

It isn't right to suggest that Pakistan is at the bottom of the table in fitness, fielding, batting and every other domain because if this would have been the case then different commentators wouldn't have praised our players and on learning aspect, yes we try to learn from our mistakes.
You Sir! deserves more of respect now,a selfless captain infact a Saint he is :yk
 
But he did won a series in Australia which those stalwarts failed to even with abundance of talent at their disposal :rp
 
But he did won a series in Australia which those stalwarts failed to even with abundance of talent at their disposal :rp

Against a bunch of kids and unmotivated players in a time no one cares about bilateral’s, good job, as big as IK in 92. Pak surely favourites for the CT then 😘
 
Against a bunch of kids and unmotivated players in a time no one cares about bilateral’s, good job, as big as IK in 92. Pak surely favourites for the CT then 😘
Shukar ada kro, seriously did you believed Pakistan will win a series against Australia.
 
Shukar ada kro, seriously did you believed Pakistan will win a series against Australia.
We didn’t believe they were going to beat India in a World Cup, and then use that win to destroy our cricket completely as well.
 
A convenient sacrifice to opt out of a highly possible white wash against the Aussie side.
A sacrifice which he'll never commit against the tough teams like Zimbabwe and Nepal.

Be a man Rizwan and tell the world that you chickened out
 
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He is right. The series was lost. There was no point of him playing cause we all know Rizwan's strength and weakness. It was better to let a player like Haseeb spend time in Australian conditions
 
But he did won a series in Australia which those stalwarts failed to even with abundance of talent at their disposal :rp
In Australia, Pakistan won ODI series 2-1 in 2002 under captaincy of Waqar and they won Carlton & United Tri Series in 1996-97 against formidable Australia & West Indies under captaincy of Wasim Akram
 
So you are fine with the rest of rubbish?
You cannot label the players as rubbish based on just one series in Australia. Historically, Pakistani batsmen have faced challenges in Australian conditions, It’s not like playing Cricket 24 on PlayStation5, where conditions and scenarios are simulated. Real cricket demands adaptability, skill, and time to adjust to vastly different playing environments.

Think of it this way: if someone were to pick you up and drop you in an unfamiliar place like Timbuktu, you’d undoubtedly feel disoriented at first. It would take you time to familiarize yourself with the surroundings, the culture, and the challenges of the environment.

Similarly, Pakistani players are accustomed to playing on home pitches that offer specific conditions, The hard, fast, and bouncy pitches in Australia are an entirely different ballgame. Adapting to these conditions is no small feat, and it requires time, experience, and practice.

What is bizarre that after playing over 20 games in Australia, Babar Azam, Mohammad Rizwan, Shaheen Afridi, and Naseem Shah still haven’t figured out how to adjust to the conditions.
 
You cannot label the players as rubbish based on just one series in Australia. Historically, Pakistani batsmen have faced challenges in Australian conditions, It’s not like playing Cricket 24 on PlayStation5, where conditions and scenarios are simulated. Real cricket demands adaptability, skill, and time to adjust to vastly different playing environments.

Think of it this way: if someone were to pick you up and drop you in an unfamiliar place like Timbuktu, you’d undoubtedly feel disoriented at first. It would take you time to familiarize yourself with the surroundings, the culture, and the challenges of the environment.

Similarly, Pakistani players are accustomed to playing on home pitches that offer specific conditions, The hard, fast, and bouncy pitches in Australia are an entirely different ballgame. Adapting to these conditions is no small feat, and it requires time, experience, and practice.

What is bizarre that after playing over 20 games in Australia, Babar Azam, Mohammad Rizwan, Shaheen Afridi, and Naseem Shah still haven’t figured out how to adjust to the conditions.
So in other words a whole bunch of excuses for why the others have failed. The bottom line is none of these players are good enough. I have followed these players throughout their careers and I know they won't be any good at international level due to being quite average players. Is is no surprise to see these guys struggle.
 
So in other words a whole bunch of excuses for why the others have failed. The bottom line is none of these players are good enough. I have followed these players throughout their careers and I know they won't be any good at international level due to being quite average players. Is is no surprise to see these guys struggle.
I can’t just take the word of some nobody on the internet.

Back in the day, A tours to countries like England and Australia were a key part of player development.

Young players were nurtured and gained experience in challenging conditions.

Whenever there were matches against weaker teams or C-string sides, new players were tested and evaluated.

I’m talking as far back as the 90s when players were judged over time, not discarded after one bad series.

If you want to develop players, they need consistent opportunities in tough environments, not knee-jerk reactions after a single failure.

Sticking with the same playing XI for the past 4-5 years, with Rizwan and Babar even playing against teams like Nepal, is hindering the development of younger players.

Take a look at Australia they’ve fielded a bunch of new players in ODIs and T20s. Do you think they did this for fun? No, it’s about building the next generation of cricketers.

In home games or matches against weaker teams, there’s no need for players like Rizwan, Babar, Shaheen, or Naseem to be playing. These opportunities should be used to develop emerging talent.
 
I can’t just take the word of some nobody on the internet.

Back in the day, A tours to countries like England and Australia were a key part of player development.

Young players were nurtured and gained experience in challenging conditions.

Whenever there were matches against weaker teams or C-string sides, new players were tested and evaluated.

I’m talking as far back as the 90s when players were judged over time, not discarded after one bad series.

If you want to develop players, they need consistent opportunities in tough environments, not knee-jerk reactions after a single failure.

Sticking with the same playing XI for the past 4-5 years, with Rizwan and Babar even playing against teams like Nepal, is hindering the development of younger players.

Take a look at Australia they’ve fielded a bunch of new players in ODIs and T20s. Do you think they did this for fun? No, it’s about building the next generation of cricketers.

In home games or matches against weaker teams, there’s no need for players like Rizwan, Babar, Shaheen, or Naseem to be playing. These opportunities should be used to develop emerging talent.
Don't need to take my word for it. I have watched cricket for a long time and played at a very good level. I am just stating what I see with the players. I have no problems with providing young players with the opportunities as long as they have potential. Reason why it is imperative Pakistan gives as many chances as they possibly can to Saim Ayub who clearly

I have followed Farhan since he made his domestic debut. He hasn't improved much and even then he never had much potential in first place. He still struggles against pace and short stuff. Still can't rotate strike. Feet are still stuck in cement. It is also down to players to work on their game too. You can give guys like him and some of the other as many games as you want but they won't improve or get better because their talent is limited.
 
Lol.

So now he is claiming he is some sort of noble person who sets standards.

Truth is, he didnt want 3-0 whitewash next to his name after claiming the opposite would happen.
This is an old trick. I’m a great fan of Inzi the batsman, but he did these things a few times too. Aus tour 2004/5 - lost the first match, writing on the wall and skipped the next 2 tests to avoid having 3-0 on his record. He skipped the Karachi 2006 test as he didn’t want to lose 2 home series in a row vs India.
 
Q: Do guys like yourself, Babar, Shaheen and Naseem fit in the T20I team given the modern nature of game of cricket?

I shall answer it in this manner. If you observe recently the England team had visited Pakistan and we defeated them in the (Test) series via a tactical point. They scored 800 in the first innings and we scored 600 runs but still lost. So later in the series we defeated them with a tactical change in our approach not with a change in our game plan.
has something been lost in translation? 🤪
 
Don't need to take my word for it. I have watched cricket for a long time and played at a very good level. I am just stating what I see with the players. I have no problems with providing young players with the opportunities as long as they have potential. Reason why it is imperative Pakistan gives as many chances as they possibly can to Saim Ayub who clearly

I have followed Farhan since he made his domestic debut. He hasn't improved much and even then he never had much potential in first place. He still struggles against pace and short stuff. Still can't rotate strike. Feet are still stuck in cement. It is also down to players to work on their game too. You can give guys like him and some of the other as many games as you want but they won't improve or get better because their talent is limited.
I understand but there are people on here who have been involved and watched cricket since the 80's, it all comes down to opinions I my self have been watching since 1994 when BBC or C4 use to broadcast, and the first series I watched was south Africa vs England. I didn't quiet understood the game until the late 90's during the Sharjah series i think it was called coca cola cup or Pepsi cup something like that.

anyways going back to topic Farhan has been selected on the back of double 100 he's scored and 3 50's just recently,
he should have not been selected in the t20 squad, it should have been ODI squad but since he's there I would have him over Rizwan and Babar both have been pathetic in this format.
 
I understand but there are people on here who have been involved and watched cricket since the 80's, it all comes down to opinions I my self have been watching since 1994 when BBC or C4 use to broadcast, and the first series I watched was south Africa vs England. I didn't quiet understood the game until the late 90's during the Sharjah series i think it was called coca cola cup or Pepsi cup something like that.

anyways going back to topic Farhan has been selected on the back of double 100 he's scored and 3 50's just recently,
he should have not been selected in the t20 squad, it should have been ODI squad but since he's there I would have him over Rizwan and Babar both have been pathetic in this format.
Farhan is a good red ball performer, he typically ducks out of the way on short putched deliveries in tests, Blocks some deliveries and drives or plays attacking shots in his arc in tests.

It's just in t20 and odi he needs to get a move on and isn't able to do so.

Typical PCB, always selecting the wrong player in the wrong format.
 
I understand but there are people on here who have been involved and watched cricket since the 80's, it all comes down to opinions I my self have been watching since 1994 when BBC or C4 use to broadcast, and the first series I watched was south Africa vs England. I didn't quiet understood the game until the late 90's during the Sharjah series i think it was called coca cola cup or Pepsi cup something like that.

anyways going back to topic Farhan has been selected on the back of double 100 he's scored and 3 50's just recently,
he should have not been selected in the t20 squad, it should have been ODI squad but since he's there I would have him over Rizwan and Babar both have been pathetic in this format.
You can have him over Babar and Rizwan who I personally don't want in the team. But both as bad as they are light years ahead of him in terms of batting. He can't be selected in odis as the likes of Abdullah, Saim, Fakhar and even imam are far better than him.

There are calls for him to be included in tests. That will be an even bigger disaster due to his awful technique. As I said I am all up for giving him chances but it won't come to anything.

What we need is to identify players when young and send to away tours. Having players in their 30s is a waste for our A team as there is little time left in their careers.
 
As usual.
Drama, drama and drama.
'' i want to play at 4 but if my teams wants me to play anywhere I will do it ''
'' pcb can chose any coach they want I am no one but yes if they tell me I will tell them some names''
Bhai whyyyyy?
You are the biggest problem in this team and sooner people realise will be better for the team.
 
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Mohammad Rizwan in a presser today answered following questions:


Q: Do guys like yourself, Babar, Shaheen and Naseem fit in the T20I team given the modern nature of game of cricket?

I shall answer it in this manner. If you observe recently the England team had visited Pakistan and we defeated them in the (Test) series via a tactical point. They scored 800 in the first innings and we scored 600 runs but still lost. So later in the series we defeated them with a tactical change in our approach not with a change in our game plan. As you would have witnessed, we won the later match owing to a brilliant performance from Saud Shakeel who scored 70 runs through singles in a Test match whereas at the same time in modern times, teams are sticking to Bazball approach. Even in the Sydney T20I game that we lost owing to a drop of a lot of catches, the scenario of the whole series would have been different had we won there. While on the same pitch at one point Australia was 50/2 and then we staged a strong comeback so I would say that in regard to modern day cricket I lay more emphasis on demand of the game than anything else. So if the demand of a pitch is a 200 plus total and we are not making it then you guys can blame us for not doing well for Pakistan team but on a Sydney pitch the scenario was different and the demand of the pitch varies everywhere. Even Australian captain, Inglis was saying the same that the conditions at pitch were more similar to a Test match. But the bottom line is that we are working hard to improve our game and hopefully God will help us in this pursuit.

The question was on presence of Rizwan, Babar, Shaheen, Naseem in T20Is. I am unable to understand why he gave example of England test series, Saud Shakeel

Why is he still blaming dropped catches for the loss in Sydney? That target was very much chasable, but he & Babar decided to open again, and he got out in 10th over after scoring impactful 16(26)

I don't remember any match in which Babar & Rizwan started the innings with an intention to score 200.

Q: Can Pakistan rely on young inexperienced squad to deliver results in Zimbabwe?

We will have to because the bunch of players that we are taking to Zimbabwe are all talented players and God willing we would get something great out from this setup for the better future composition of our team. We got whitewashed here in ( Australia) the T20I series. But in such situations when you are sending in an inexperienced side then your bigger emphasis is on getting the stars for the future rather than on results. Also if you have observed, the bigger teams make such experiments before big tournaments and that is why they come into the tournament at the back of series losses but do well there. Also in this thing is a message for our six mentors on how these (inexperienced) players performance and on which aspect (of their game) they can work. I think we need to work on the game awareness of our upcoming players.

Who are those 6 mentors? What about the game awareness of existing players who have played more than 50 T20Is? When will they learn game awareness and how to play match winning innings?
 
A common strategy among cricket captains is to sacrifice personal performance for the betterment of the team. However, this approach can have unintended consequences. Rashid Latif and Sarfraz Ahmed, both accomplished cricketers, exemplify this trend. By significantly downgrading their batting positions, they compromised their individual potential. It is crucial for leaders to find a harmonious equilibrium between team demands and personal aspirations.
 
Problem is the replacements for these guys. Farhan??? Usman??? Haseeb?? they are even more pathetic.

How are we gonna replace rizwan when the guy replacing him is even a bigger failure???
 
The question was on presence of Rizwan, Babar, Shaheen, Naseem in T20Is. I am unable to understand why he gave example of England test series, Saud Shakeel

Why is he still blaming dropped catches for the loss in Sydney? That target was very much chasable, but he & Babar decided to open again, and he got out in 10th over after scoring impactful 16(26)

I don't remember any match in which Babar & Rizwan started the innings with an intention to score 200.



Who are those 6 mentors? What about the game awareness of existing players who have played more than 50 T20Is? When will they learn game awareness and how to play match winning innings?
I think he is referring to the Champions ODI Cup mentors: Misbah, Waqar Younis, Saqlain, Sarfaraz, Shoaib Malik etc
 
has something been lost in translation? 🤪

This is why projecting up this image of religiousness is an extremely dangerous pathway to take. A truly honest person won’t resort to hogwash when asked simple questions!
 
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The question was on presence of Rizwan, Babar, Shaheen, Naseem in T20Is. I am unable to understand why he gave example of England test series, Saud Shakeel

Why is he still blaming dropped catches for the loss in Sydney? That target was very much chasable, but he & Babar decided to open again, and he got out in 10th over after scoring impactful 16(26)

I don't remember any match in which Babar & Rizwan started the innings with an intention to score 200.



Who are those 6 mentors? What about the game awareness of existing players who have played more than 50 T20Is? When will they learn game awareness and how to play match winning innings?
I hope these 6 menotors referring to are not babar, rizwan, shaheen, naseem, harris and agha
 
This drama queen highlights what is wrong in Pak cricket.
You did not play a single meaningless T20 game, I mean who cares. What sacrifice?!
 
Problem is the replacements for these guys. Farhan??? Usman??? Haseeb?? they are even more pathetic.

How are we gonna replace rizwan when the guy replacing him is even a bigger failure???

so what's your plan? play Babar and Rizwan until they are 80?

Babar and Rizwan are the reason why we don't have any bench strength or back up players
 
Uff bass kar de bhai!

His obsession with maintaining this selfless image of his is so sickening. NO ONE CARES!!!!

Play some match winning knocks! Get your team some wins! We can celebrate your noble attitude.
 
Azhar ali Misbah ul haq Ifthikhar Ahmed and now Rizwan .. all into Wall of shame! Ruining Pakistan with tuktuk
 
Uff bass kar de bhai!

His obsession with maintaining this selfless image of his is so sickening. NO ONE CARES!!!!

Play some match winning knocks! Get your team some wins! We can celebrate your noble attitude.
He won’t, he is controlled by Misbah co
 
We are officially on Bangladesh level

“We can’t replace Shakib and Mushfiq”
It’s absurd how some people expect players to show up and immediately perform like Bradman.

Take Rizwan, for example. When he first joined the team, he struggled and averaged just 20 in his first year playing 8 odd games , with only 11 in his debut series. By their logic, he should have never played for Pakistan again.

In fact, he averaged just 3 against Bangladesh in U19 cricket.

Even Babar had to build experience with Pakistan A. I remember watching him play against Glamorgan in wales before he made it to the main squad.

These Babar and Rizwan fans make zero sense.

We've already wasted four years prioritizing friendships over merit. It's about time we started grooming players who at least show intent.

And why are we even hiring "foreign coaches" if they aren't going to focus on developing talents like Usman, Haseeb, and others? That's supposed to be their job. Even if we can take out 5 years from usman and sahibzada still a step forward
 
It’s absurd how some people expect players to show up and immediately perform like Bradman.

Take Rizwan, for example. When he first joined the team, he struggled and averaged just 20 in his first year playing 8 odd games , with only 11 in his debut series. By their logic, he should have never played for Pakistan again.

In fact, he averaged just 3 against Bangladesh in U19 cricket.

Even Babar had to build experience with Pakistan A. I remember watching him play against Glamorgan in wales before he made it to the main squad.

These Babar and Rizwan fans make zero sense.

We've already wasted four years prioritizing friendships over merit. It's about time we started grooming players who at least show intent.

And why are we even hiring "foreign coaches" if they aren't going to focus on developing talents like Usman, Haseeb, and others? That's supposed to be their job. Even if we can take out 5 years from usman and sahibzada still a step forward
Rizwan fans act like Misbah didn’t pull every string and dirty move possible to make him work.

I can remind these people of all the sinister things that guy was up to make Rizwan work and to somehow destroy Sarfaraz’s career.

God is always watching. These people will suffer the consequences for the injustices they have committed.
 
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Rizwan fans act like Misbah didn’t pull every string and dirty move possible to make him work.

I can remind these people of all the sinister things that guy was up to make Rizwan work and to somehow destroy Sarfaraz’s career.


God is always watching. These people will suffer the consequences for the injustices they have committed
Yes sarfraz being rubbish wasn't a problem. Hypocrisy at its finest.
 
Oh yeah only rizwan and babar can be out of form for more than 3 years
Babar has been dropped from tests I have no problem with that. Rizwan and Babar both should be dropped from t20s. Maybe you are confusing me with someone else. Or maybe it's your hate of the 2 is why you posted this. For someone who been watching cricket from 95 as you claim, you don't have much clue about the game.
 
Rizwan fans act like Misbah didn’t pull every string and dirty move possible to make him work.

I can remind these people of all the sinister things that guy was up to make Rizwan work and to somehow destroy Sarfaraz’s career.

God is always watching. These people will suffer the consequences for the injustices they have committed.
Misbah isn't even subtle about it. It's his fans who lie and try to bring in narratives. Misbah himself has always showcased how abusive and manipulative he is and has erupted into flames on multiple occasions.

Misbah on the other hand has made it very clear that not only is he a hypocrite, He's an aggressive abusive stubborn Individual.

For example during his early days when questioned on his role in the middle order and slow approach as well as why he shouldn't just open since he's a liability down the order, Misbah erupted in flames aka KYA MEIN CHOKEI NAHI MARTA.

Similarly when questioned as to why sarfi isn't playing and why jamshed and UA are playing over him in the cup, He once again erupted saying Jamshed hasn't been given any chances.

Afterwards he vocally proclaimed and boasted about azhar becoming captain despite not even playing odi for 4 years. He very vocally claimed that sarfi wasn't good enough.

Afterwards during the t20 series, when asked about how succesful the no 1 team was and why it got whitewashed he once again aggressively claimed, Don't question me, I am not asking my right handed batters to bat Left.

Finally he even told fakhar straight to his face that he wasn't good enough and that rizwan is a better player then he is which is a joke. Fakhar vocally expressed this and hinted at how demotivating this was.

The only individual who could genuinely walk all over Misbah was Younis Khan, cause his tactics didn't work on younis.

But otherwise Misbah and rizwan are the 2 biggest crooks in the history of the game
 
Babar has been dropped from tests I have no problem with that. Rizwan and Babar both should be dropped from t20s. Maybe you are confusing me with someone else. Or maybe it's your hate of the 2 is why you posted this. For someone who been watching cricket from 95 as you claim, you don't have much clue about the game.
Perhaps I have a vision, and it’s challenging for you to grasp it because you might lack the capacity to understand.
 
Perhaps I have a vision, and it’s challenging for you to grasp it because you might lack the capacity to understand.
If you wanna shut these guys up, Just ask them to name their playing 11 for t20, odi and tests.

They'll be the first to vanish lol. It'll usually take them 3 to 5 days once a series concludes to reappear 🤣🤣.

You'll have some peace and quiet until then. And when they come back, just rinse and repeat the process.

It is the anti rizwan repellent.
 
Perhaps I have a vision, and it’s challenging for you to grasp it because you might lack the capacity to understand.
A vision where Farhan, haseebullah and Usman are considered talented. That vision is challenging for anyone to grasp in all honestly.
 
A vision where Farhan, haseebullah and Usman are considered talented. That vision is challenging for anyone to grasp in all honestly.

The vision should focus on nurturing potential and developing players, especially when raw talent isn’t readily available. This is what the "foreign coaches" are paid for, it their job in identifying and refining potential, creating versatile players who can adapt to various conditions.

However, if your approach is to rely solely on players like Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan without a clear plan to groom younger talent, you’re setting yourself up for failure. Once these players retire, the team will be left vulnerable, potentially undoing years of progress and pushing cricket back by 20 years.

On top of that, you want to drop players after just one series, even when they’ve been performing well in familiar conditions like those in Pakistan. This lack of patience not only demoralizes players but also disrupts the process of building a consistent and confident team.

Do you even understand the differences between playing conditions in Pakistan and Australia? The pitches, weather, and cricketing dynamics are entirely different, demanding unique strategies and long-term planning. Without addressing these factors, the team will never be prepared to succeed consistently on the international stage.
 
The vision should focus on nurturing potential and developing players, especially when raw talent isn’t readily available. This is what the "foreign coaches" are paid for, it their job in identifying and refining potential, creating versatile players who can adapt to various conditions.

However, if your approach is to rely solely on players like Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan without a clear plan to groom younger talent, you’re setting yourself up for failure. Once these players retire, the team will be left vulnerable, potentially undoing years of progress and pushing cricket back by 20 years.

On top of that, you want to drop players after just one series, even when they’ve been performing well in familiar conditions like those in Pakistan. This lack of patience not only demoralizes players but also disrupts the process of building a consistent and confident team.

Do you even understand the differences between playing conditions in Pakistan and Australia? The pitches, weather, and cricketing dynamics are entirely different, demanding unique strategies and long-term planning. Without addressing these factors, the team will never be prepared to succeed consistently on the international stage.
We probably first need to establish the meaning of talent. Could you specify what talent you see in players like haseebullah, Usman and farhan?
The vision should focus on nurturing potential and developing players, especially when raw talent isn’t readily available. This is what the "foreign coaches" are paid for, it their job in identifying and refining potential, creating versatile players who can adapt to various conditions.

However, if your approach is to rely solely on players like Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan without a clear plan to groom younger talent, you’re setting yourself up for failure. Once these players retire, the team will be left vulnerable, potentially undoing years of progress and pushing cricket back by 20 years.

On top of that, you want to drop players after just one series, even when they’ve been performing well in familiar conditions like those in Pakistan. This lack of patience not only demoralizes players but also disrupts the process of building a consistent and confident team.

Do you even understand the differences between playing conditions in Pakistan and Australia? The pitches, weather, and cricketing dynamics are entirely different, demanding unique strategies and long-term planning. Without addressing these factors, the team will never be prepared to succeed consistently on the international stage.
Developing players from domestic cricket is not the job of foreign coaches. This is not about babar and Rizwan, I am not sure about the need to bring them other than you dislike which is clearly evident by stating 20 years will be wasted which is just absurd.

Raw talent is clearly there which is not being developed. You can't develop players who are in their 30s and are rubbish which both Usman and Farhan are. It waste of time and resources. The won't make it at international level no matter how you twist it

Now the excuse of playing in Australia which I agree is difficult and players shouldn't be judged based on 1 series. Usman looked clueless in WI and even when playing in Pakistan against international teams. If I am not mistaken Farhan played in UAE when he made his debut and struggled there in NZ he got out in the same fashion. He along with Usman don't have a game against international pacers and you can't develop that when you are 30.

If you are talking about performances should we call Mohammad musa too since he taking wickets for fun? Unlike most I follow Pakistan domestic circuit and I know quite a bit about of our players.
 
We probably first need to establish the meaning of talent. Could you specify what talent you see in players like haseebullah, Usman and farhan?
Developing players from domestic cricket is not the job of foreign coaches. This is not about babar and Rizwan, I am not sure about the need to bring them other than you dislike which is clearly evident by stating 20 years will be wasted which is just absurd.

Raw talent is clearly there which is not being developed. You can't develop players who are in their 30s and are rubbish which both Usman and Farhan are. It waste of time and resources. The won't make it at international level no matter how you twist it

Now the excuse of playing in Australia which I agree is difficult and players shouldn't be judged based on 1 series. Usman looked clueless in WI and even when playing in Pakistan against international teams. If I am not mistaken Farhan played in UAE when he made his debut and struggled there in NZ he got out in the same fashion. He along with Usman don't have a game against international pacers and you can't develop that when you are 30.

If you are talking about performances should we call Mohammad musa too since he taking wickets for fun? Unlike most I follow Pakistan domestic circuit and I know quite a bit about of our players.
Give us names of "talents" in domestic abd we will take it from there.
 
No seems like you know about the talent in the Pakistan domestic circuit and the players since you follow it. Give me names to replace usman haseeb and farhan
I will give you mine since you clearly don't have an answer.

For haseebullah - Harris in t20s and I like the look of ghazi gouri of the very little I have seen him. Ghazi Gouri can be developed for red ball

Abdullah is better than both Farhan and Usman for a start. As poor as imam has been he quite comfortably better than both. Omair Bin yousuf is another. Maaz Sadaqat is very promising and has far more potential than farhan and Usman. Huraira is another who has got better potential than both. Mohammad Farooq from FATA can be developed into a very decent modern batsmen. Hasan Nawaz is another one with better potential.
 
I will give you mine since you clearly don't have an answer.

For haseebullah - Harris in t20s and I like the look of ghazi gouri of the very little I have seen him. Ghazi Gouri can be developed for red ball

Abdullah is better than both Farhan and Usman for a start. As poor as imam has been he quite comfortably better than both. Omair Bin yousuf is another. Maaz Sadaqat is very promising and has far more potential than farhan and Usman. Huraira is another who has got better potential than both. Mohammad Farooq from FATA can be developed into a very decent modern batsmen. Hasan Nawaz is another one with better potential.

The Muhammad Harris you're talking about has been seriously struggling lately. In his last 10 innings, he's got more single-digit scores than anything impressive, and even against teams like India A and Oman, he couldn't deliver. and you want him playing internationals lol

look at Haseeb, Farhan, and Usman Khan. They've been in great form, especially in the recent Pakistan Cup, where they all outperformed him and all have 60+ average. That’s the main reason they’ve earned their spots in the squad over harris.

Ghazi Gouri hasn't even played 10 first-class matches yet, and there's already talk of him being included in the squad? lol That way too early.

Maaz Sadaqaat, sure, he’s got potential, but he still needs to prove himself in the domestic circuit. same with Hasan Nawaz and Farooq, they haven’t even stepped into domestic cricket properly yet and you want them in internationals. too early for them, first they have to prove themselves at home first.

I hope this was a joke reply lol, because this can't be serious and if your serious then don't ever talk to me again
because you have no sense what so ever, these guys first need to prove them selves in Domestic, PSL, A tours then they can play vs Australia in Australia
 
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