Asad Shafiq, a failure in pressure situations?

[MenInG]

He failed as did many others - give credit to West Indies also pls.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

He failed as did many others - give credit to West Indies also pls.

yes but this now a trend thats been going for too long, even you have to admit it.

Asad doing nothing for a bulk games then scoring a ton often in a loosing or drawed game to save his spot.

I think only 3 of his tons have come in wins. I really though the Oval innings was going to be his blossoming, but it's just been depressing that after 7 years, and being backed over many other players, there is very little improvment

 

[Hawkeye]

Enough.

Ban him from the national team. Can rot in domestics all he wants.

 

[Adil_94]

Awful series for Shafiq avg 13 . Needs to step it up next couple of series as a 'senior or should be shown the door.

 

[Muhammad10]

Not sure it's even about pressure any more. Think he's just a failure in most situations. Rarely looks assured at the crease and always looks like he's lacking confidence.

 

[Mamoon]

His worst series since Zimbabwe 2013.

 

[Mamoon]

Not sure it's even about pressure any more. Think he's just a failure in most situations. Rarely looks assured at the crease and always looks like he's lacking confidence.

It has never been about pressure. As I pointed out on the first page, more than half of his tons have come under pressure, but the fact is that he is simply inconsistent. There is no pattern to his performances, just doesn't score enough with or without pressure. His body language is very poor though, comes across as very timid and nervous.

 

[Hawkeye]

Not sure it's even about pressure any more. Think he's just a failure in most situations. Rarely looks assured at the crease and always looks like he's lacking confidence.

Yeah, didn't think it'd come to this day, when almost every other innings is a failure.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

He's just not that good. Works hard to get the runs he's does, but it's a struggle for the most part. He's still in the side because our other batsmen are people like Shan Masood who is even worse.

 

[sharon javed]

His worst series since Zimbabwe 2013.

Even faisal iqbal has more centuries than him

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Not sure it's even about pressure any more. Think he's just a failure in most situations. Rarely looks assured at the crease and always looks like he's lacking confidence.

He is low on confidence too right now but tbh his technique isnt special as hyped. [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] posted in a thread, he is getting out the same way and facing same difficulties for last 7 years. How long can we invest on him.

 

[Hawkeye]

He's just not that good. Works hard to get the runs he's does, but it's a struggle for the most part. He's still in the side because our other batsmen are people like Shan Masood who is even worse.

Shan Masood isn't competing with Shafiq, come on now.

His competition is the likes of Haris, Fawad, Amin, Imam and Saud.

All much better.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Shan Masood isn't competing with Shafiq, come on now.

His competition is the likes of Haris, Fawad, Amin, Imam and Saud.

All much better.

None of those guys are that good either, that's why he has stayed in the side. That was my point really, Shan Masood is an example of how poor our batting options are.

 

[Muhammad10]

He is low on confidence too right now but tbh his technique isnt special as hyped. [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] posted in a thread, he is getting out the same way and facing same difficulties for last 7 years. How long can we invest on him.

True. I always found the "technique" gimmick amusing, as I've never really rated his technique too highly. If you're unable to rectify technical flaws after 55 Tests, are you really worthy of an unconditional long-term investment?

 

[Chief Destroyer]

The biggest choker Pakistan has ever produced.

 

[New Yorker]

None of those guys are that good either, that's why he has stayed in the side. That was my point really, Shan Masood is an example of how poor our batting options are.

Fawad et al average 10-15 points more than Shafiq in FC cricket. Reason enough to test them, and that presumption of yours.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Drop him ASAP but I know it won't happen. He is a senior batsman now after Younis and Misbah's retirement.

 

[Adil_94]

this whole technical perfection thing is a myth too. He has huge issues with the ball coming into him. Which he is bowled by in dippers and inswingers so often.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

It has never been about pressure. As I pointed out on the first page, more than half of his tons have come under pressure, but the fact is that he is simply inconsistent. There is no pattern to his performances, just doesn't score enough with or without pressure. His body language is very poor though, comes across as very timid and nervous.

Would you drop him now ?

Considering the time and money invested ?

Pakistan are in a bad position by investing so much in him just like investing a lot in Umar Akmal.

 

[idrizzy]

If people are asking his head to be chopped off because of a bad series, you gotta remember that most people did bad barring Misbah and Azhar:

https://imgur.com/gallery/LOwmS

 

[ExplicitAI]

Should still be in the Test squad since we've invested in him heavily but he should be benched 100% for someone else for about a couple Tests. Babar should be having an extended run at 3 and someone like Haris should get a spot.

 

[imranraf]

None of those guys are that good either, that's why he has stayed in the side. That was my point really, Shan Masood is an example of how poor our batting options are.

Fawad is definitely better, but don't know why he is not given a chance in our test team?

 

[Mamoon]

Would you drop him now ?

Considering the time and money invested ?

Pakistan are in a bad position by investing so much in him just like investing a lot in Umar Akmal.

I would give a couple of series at 4/5. They are the (relatively) easiest positions to bat in Test cricket, and he is the one who should attempt to fill the void left by Younis and Misbah, with a new batsman coming in at 6. If he cannot cut it at those positions, then it will be time to cut our losses. However, I don't expect him to be dropped because of his experience and the fact that he is best mates with the next captain.

 

[adil_909]

Mohammad Yousuf on TV made the point that Shafiq had scored centuries in Australia, England, and SAF, one of the few Pakistani batsmen still around that have done so. However he said that Shafiq has been mentally ruined as a talent by constantly being selected then dropped and that affected his confidence badly. Do you guys agree? Should he get another long run in the team, or has he blown too many chances and we should invest in someone else?

 

[badsha001]

He should only play test cricket and PSL... No need to bring him back in limited cricket.

 

[superman]

In odis i would rather have najam sethi play. Moyo i used to love as a player butvthis boycrush with shafiq has to stop

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Wouldn't necessarily do worse than Shehzad as an opener right now !! but has the same kind of limitations as Azhar tbh.....

 

[Hawkeye]

Mohammad Yousuf on TV made the point that Shafiq had scored centuries in Australia, England, and SAF, one of the few Pakistani batsmen still around that have done so. However he said that Shafiq has been mentally ruined as a talent by constantly being selected then dropped and that affected his confidence badly. Do you guys agree? Should he get another long run in the team, or has he blown too many chances and we should invest in someone else?

Moyo is a known biased guy. Don't take his opinions on cricketers seriously.

Also, his love affair with Shafiq is well known, and he's not ready to accept the mediocrity of Shafiq even after years of being given a constant run. He's failing in Tests too now.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Wouldn't necessarily do worse than Shehzad as an opener right now !! but has the same kind of limitations as Azhar tbh.....

Asad Shafique the Odi player is a mystery case just like Ramprakash, Hick etc in Int Cricket overall.


In similar number of List A matches excluding Odi's no current player averages more than Shafique. He averages 54-55 probably.


Asad Shafique & Ahsan Ali's partnership was the best Partnership of domestic Cricket televised last year. Both were classy. Shafique has two classy sweet domestic T20 fifties too.


I agree He is much compact than Shehzad so He would have done better than Shehzad but I think he has been given too many chances now. Should stick to Tests only where He is at brink of getting droppef but should not be dropped.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Bump


I expect in the selector's mind this will be Asad's last chance.

I hope he does well but not just one meaningless 100 to save himself for another tour

I want him to bat at 4 and be our main run getter, he is 31 not getting any younger.

 

[Leo23]

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I expect in the selector's mind this will be Asad's last chance.

I hope he does well but not just one meaningless 100 to save himself for another tour

I want him to bat at 4 and be our main run getter, he is 31 not getting any younger.

last chance?

this meek pretender bought himself another 50 tests because of the retirement of younis and misbah. he will probably end up playing 80-90 tests which will be a total shame given how mediocre he is

he will continue to hide some where in the middle order probably at number 5 from now on

i expect azhar to move back to 3 with babar at 4 and haris at 6. shafiq will be sitting comfortably at 5 and will be our weakest middle order batsman

azhar,babar and haris will score enough runs for shafiq to not get exposed and he will score soft runs here and there as he always does

if fawad alam is the unluckiest cricketer pak has produced then shafiq certainly is among the luckiest we have.

 

[hadi123]

last chance?

this meek pretender bought himself another 50 tests because of the retirement of younis and misbah. he will probably end up playing 80-90 tests which will be a total shame given how mediocre he is

he will continue to hide some where in the middle order probably at number 5 from now on

i expect azhar to move back to 3 with babar at 4 and haris at 6. shafiq will be sitting comfortably at 5 and will be our weakest middle order batsman

azhar,babar and haris will score enough runs for shafiq to not get exposed and he will score soft runs here and there as he always does

if fawad alam is the unluckiest cricketer pak has produced then shafiq certainly is among the luckiest we have.

mediocre is unfair. He has centuries in England, South Africa and Australia

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

mediocre is unfair. He has centuries in England, South Africa and Australia

this issue has never kicks on

His 100s are almost perfectly timed to save him just before being dropped

 

[The_Odd_One]

mediocre is unfair. He has centuries in England, South Africa and Australia

Still averages in 20s or 30s in those countries. That tells you how inconsistent he is.

 

[Lefthanded]

Inconsistent but capable of things most Pakistan batsmen have failed to do. He may not have won that Test in Australia, but how he played, he managed to get closer than anyone could've imagined. Don't think he choked at all.

We're going to have a WI like young line-up, and we need him to bat higher and live up to his ability. There's no absolute reason why he can't do that, even if he is 31.

 

[Slog]

I'd give him 2 more series

If he doesn't get his act together drop him

He's been decent and contributed to wins and notching some statistical records but it's time to kick on. Get to 50+ average per series level or get out

 

[aloo paratha]

Honestly I'm losing hope with Shafiq. This should be his last series if he doesn't perform.

 

[Abdul]

Lol it's always funny to see some people turn their backs so quickly.

He'll come good.

 

[Hasan123]

He's not a failure in pressure situations . Most of his centuries have come in difficult situations. Hopefully he can kick on now. Needs a big series vs Sri Lanka.

 

[King-Misbah]

It's a failure of fans or selectors that even after 8, 9 years of investment; we are discussing whether Shafiq needs to be dropped.

 

[Sarfarazian92]

On one hand you have Azhar Ali who keeps improving series after series. On the other you have Shafiq, who still hasn't learnt to pick up singles early in his innings or survive against the in-dipper.

 

[j_kazmi]

If he doesn’t score at least a hundred next innings it should be all over for him now.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

For the 1000th time. So sad as we have invested a lot in Asad and he had potential.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

For the 1000th time. So sad as we have invested a lot in Asad and he had potential.

what potential yar?? he just isnt good technically, cant score daddy hundreds and a mental midget. Not cut for international cricket. A ~40 avg kind of batsman.
Have always said we should have invested on Haris.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

what potential yar?? he just isnt good technically, cant score daddy hundreds and a mental midget. Not cut for international cricket. A ~40 avg kind of batsman.
Have always said we should have invested on Haris.

Umar Amin and Asad Shafiq are good to watch the reason people keep giving them chances. But yes they have proven that Pak should look more to effectiveness rather than style or elegance.

I have also said in the past that Asad Shafiq is mentally weak but kept hoping that he would step up one day. Whenever things went downwards Asad always crumbled.

 

[Sirris]

Somebody should loot at his stats and evaluate his performances. I am willing to give Fawad alam a chance over Shafiq. Until we find another better alternative.

 

[Abdul]

Somebody should loot at his stats and evaluate his performances. I am willing to give Fawad alam a chance over Shafiq. Until we find another better alternative.

Usman Salahuddin.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

My prediction : Pakistan will be chasing a massive total in the final innings. Asad will make a 100 in a no win situation to save his spot, his fans will come out praising him, he will the the next 4 games before making another meaningless 100 and so the cycle will repeat itself

 

[Hawkeye]

Asad Shafiq, a failure in every situation?

 

[The_Odd_One]

Asad Shafiq, a failure in every situation?

Came here to say the same.

I think that has always been his problem. He is not a failure in pressure situations, he is just a failed investment who plays one good innings in every series.

 

[CricFan2012]

Superb cricketer, we need to have more faith in him. Bats like Tendulkar, will have stats like him in no time

 

[waleed88]

He's been a failure no doubt about like. Can't go on defending this drivel. He needs to man up or its high time he makes way for others. He has not given one performance of note in the whole year. This is not due to change in his batting order like I assumed, this is just incompetence or loss of self belief in abilities. A season in FC awaits him.

 

[DRsohail]

make it,,,Asad shafiq failure in every situation.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

You know you are in a cyclic rut of form when Shan Massod has more 50+ score than you in the last 12 months.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

another one to add to the collection

 

[Mamoon]

I would still insist that it is more than just pressure or a lack of it - he is simply not consistent at all.

He just doesn't score enough soft runs or hard runs. Pressure or no pressure, he will fail more often than not.

 

[The_Odd_One]

I would still insist that it is more than just pressure or a lack of it - he is simply not consistent at all.

He just doesn't score enough soft runs or hard runs. Pressure or no pressure, he will fail more often than not.

He is Ijazz Ahmed type batsman, simply not good enough at test level but sometimes he will play a great inning that will create this illusion that he is actually good.

 

[Mamoon]

He is Ijazz Ahmed type batsman, simply not good enough at test level but sometimes he will play a great inning that will create this illusion that he is actually good.

Yes he is similar, but Ijaz was very explosive who made a big impact whenever he scored.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Yes he is similar, but Ijaz was very explosive who made a big impact whenever he scored.

As someone who watched every match in those days, I can recall that Ijazz always performed in dead rubbers. Whenever a series was over, Ijazz would play a good knock and book his place for the next series. Asad has been doing the same lately.

 

[Mamoon]

As someone who watched every match in those days, I can recall that Ijazz always performed in dead rubbers. Whenever a series was over, Ijazz would play a good knock and book his place for the next series. Asad has been doing the same lately.

Ijaz was a hack, but he could win games on his own. That innings in Lahore against India is one of the most brutal knocks I have ever seen.

 

[Ab Fan]

These sort of analysis are done once a player becomes good enough.

Shafiq is very poor test bat.

 

[Kroll]

Ijaz was a hack, but he could win games on his own. That innings in Lahore against India is one of the most brutal knocks I have ever seen.

Axe man by name, axe man by nature.

 

[Fahdi]

Not this thread again...

Shafiq has put up solid performances under pressure this criticism has never been valid. Infact it distracts us from his actual faults.

The problem with Shafiq is that his consistency is that of a player with 20 matches under his belt. Testament to the fact is that he has never scored 2 hundreds in a series. Someone with the experience of 60 tests should be performing a lot more consistently with an average of 45 at the very least.

The meaning of being a senior player with age 30+ is that your potential for improvement is almost depleted. You have to be either very good or you are no good at all. A youngster with an average of 36-37 would be a lot more valuable as has the potential to improve with experience.

This should be Shafiq's last chance. It won't be fair to debut youngsters on such a tough tour. The axe is dangling over Asad's neck and he has to show whether he has actually gained anything from all the experience or has he simply gained experience.

 

[hadi123]

Comes in at 17-2 and Pakistan batsmen struggling. What can he do?

 

[Hawkeye]

Shafiq and chickening out under pressure:

A LOVE STORY!

 

[big_gamer007]

Got out to a very good ball today even the best of batsman might have got out to that delivery.. So no it wasn’t due to pressure but just a pretty good delivery.

 

[James]

That delivery from Woakes was a pearler. Would have got Tendulkar out. No blame attached.

 

[Hawkeye]

ugh.

Why is nobody kicking him out??

Why is he made the VC!?

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Some things never change. Asad Shafiq will never take this Pak team forward.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Some batsmen just aren't mentally tough enough to survive or score runs in tougher situations. The fact that he doesn't find singles often enough only makes it worse for him.

That's how he got out today as well. Got stuck and unlike Haris he could not battle it out.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Typical poor inns for shafiq, but hes a protected player so wont be dropped.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Typical poor inns for shafiq, but hes a protected player so wont be dropped.

And it wouldn't surprise me if he scores a fifty the last test after losing this one or in general some runs in a losing cause.

But yea the vice captain can not be dropped eh?

 

[Barragan]

In the name of experience, Pak have paid a heavy price and continue to do so, hence I don't see this guy being dropped any time soon.

A real shame!

 

[Abdullah719]

Asad was under pressure today after Mickey's recent comments where he said they need more from him and this is his response... Sums up his career.

 

[Hawkeye]

This thread is a hit.

Nobody believed me in the start. Glad it's there for everyone to see now.

As long as Shafiq is playing, it's gonna stay alive.

 

[MenInG]

 

[MenInG]

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if looks could kill....

 

[Ab Fan]

This thread is a hit.

Nobody believed me in the start. Glad it's there for everyone to see now.

As long as Shafiq is playing, it's gonna stay alive.

He is a failure as a player, let alone in pressure situations. An average of 39 explains how poor he is.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

This thread is a hit.

Nobody believed me in the start. Glad it's there for everyone to see now.

As long as Shafiq is playing, it's gonna stay alive.

You're a legend. You even got [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] to admit that Asad isn't worth it. I remember how he defended Asad in 2015-2016.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Waste of 9 years