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Through the years, I have followed Afghan cricket I have been ver impressed with their talented players. Today ihsanullah was timing the ball superbly. Rahmat shah also has a very good batting technique.

But Asghar, I have never understood how he even makes the xi let alone as captain. He averages 20 at a very low strike rate and neither bowls. He is easily the worse batsman in the lineup.
 
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Sher Khan said:
Through the years, I have followed Afghan cricket I have been ver impressed with their talented players. Today ihsanullah was timing the ball superbly. Rahmat shah also has a very good batting technique.

But Asghar, I have never understood how he even makes the xi let alone as captain. He averages 20 at a very low strike rate and neither bowls. He is easily the worse batsman in the lineup.
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He is a good Captain. That's why.
 
Sher Khan said:
Through the years, I have followed Afghan cricket I have been ver impressed with their talented players. Today ihsanullah was timing the ball superbly. Rahmat shah also has a very good batting technique.

But Asghar, I have never understood how he even makes the xi let alone as captain. He averages 20 at a very low strike rate and neither bowls. He is easily the worse batsman in the lineup.
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Apparently he is well connected.
 
He has changed his name to asghar afghan i see why he done that with his tailender like stats. infact atleast they have higher strike rate then him.
 
Quite possibly the worst cricketer I have ever seen in the ODI format. Barely averaging 20, at a SR of about 60, for a no.5 batsman. Getting him out harms your chances :))

That said, he seems to control this Afghan side very well. When Rashid was thrown the captaincy in the WCQ's they fell apart completely and lost three out of three, regained their touch after he came back, so obviously he provides value in the sense that he seems to be respected by the whole squad which in a country with as many ethnicities and such as Afghanistan may not be easy to do.

That said he is very much a passenger in this team and can consider himself very fortunate to have arguably the best spin bowling attack in the world to call on whenever he needs a get out of jail card.
 
Has to be one of the worst active batsmen in world cricket. His bowlers average more than him.
 
Specialist captain. Don’t know why but the team plays much better when he captains.
 
As a pathan myself, he should be given a medal for controlling the whole team lol. I have played where we were all pashtuns as a team in canada and everyone thought they were the star of the team. It was fun and unpredictable... sometimes our main bowlers would score a 100 out of nowhere and would then want to open bowling and batting.
 
After Nowroz Mangal was forced to resign as captain, Afghansitan didn't have any level headed player.

Nabi was tried as a captain, they even tried rashid aswell.

The thing about Asghar Stanikzai (or afghan) is that for a pashtun, he is quite level headed. This i say because, few years ago, when the Afghanistan team was playing odi games against Test nations, they were just whacking their bat. They were not playing proper innings. Asghar on the other hand would play the anchor role and bat sensibly. Yes his avg isn't that great, but when Afghanistan use to play tullaybaaz cricketers, he was the guy who use to stand there at the crease.

Yes, Afghanistan has now got Rehmat shah and other guys coming in, but they are not quite experienced yet. Afghanistan's first class structure is quite new and can't provide experience to players, thus they have to keep Asghar as captain currently.

Asghar experiences could be seen the way he captains his team.
1) He controls his team. The Afghani players often do act in negative fashion. Mohammad Shahzad is the best example

2) He knows how to use his bowlers. Often associate and lower ranked odi captains make too many bowling changes. They end up asking 8 guys to bowl.
Asghar doesn't apply these weird tactics. If he has 5 bowlers, he will make sure all 5 bowl and might give the 6th bowler 2-3 overs. He doesn't bowl 7-8 bowlers just for the sake of getting a wicket. He knows how to apply pressure. I have seen matches where they did not bowl Samiullah Shinwari as the 6th bowler, because he often gets the line and length wrong.

3) He captains according to the condition. Afghanistan has many good pace bowlers aswell. There is dawlat Zadran, Shapoor, Yamin AHmadzai, Izatullah and Wafadar. Yet, he doesn't play these guys just for the sake of it. He looks at the condition.
UAE is known for being a spinners paradise. Hence, he played 3 spinners in the alst match and today he is playing 4.

Look at our Captain. Sarfraz knew we were going to UAE, he has played under Misbah and seen how he uses spinners and still he took 2 spinners in the squad, and played 1 spinner in the last match. He was forced to use Fakahr zaman in the match.

India on the other hand have only played 2 games in UAE in the past and yet they know that these pitches are for spinners.

So you see, Asghar is quite an experience player. Afghanistan doesn;t have any other player that is more experienced than him and there first class system ain't gonna allow that either.

THey will have to keep Asghar for 3 more years before they could try someone else.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
It's 2018. There's no such thing as a specialist captain. And even then I'm pretty sure he's no Kardar or Brearley.
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bro, not every team is the same. You can't compare all the teams with the same glasses.

You have to look at their structures. Afghanistan has a weak First Class system, it can't provide experience players who could captain the team. Right now exprience is only being gained from international games, and Asghar is the most experience one

SHahzad is a lunatic. ANd Nabi isn't captain material.

Afghanistan needs a guy who could keep them well behave and checked.

I have watched alot of Afghanistan Cricket and i have seen how they often bat. Asghar is leading the team well with what he has got.

He is well experience, playing from the days of Allah Dad Noori.
 
mak36 said:
Apparently he is well connected.
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this is just bull crap.

He has a brother called Karim Janat. Medium pacer that could also bat. Even Aftab Alam is a medium pacer and yet he is playing.
Karim has only played 1 odi

If he wanted, he could bring in Karim instead of Aftab.
 
Major said:
this is just bull crap.

He has a brother called Karim Janat. Medium pacer that could also bat. Even Aftab Alam is a medium pacer and yet he is playing.
Karim has only played 1 odi

If he wanted, he could bring in Karim instead of Aftab.
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All 3 very high quality posts. Finally someone on PP that know Afghan cricket well.

All that said Asghar is awful, but also essentiel for Afghanistan currently.
 
Major said:
bro, not every team is the same. You can't compare all the teams with the same glasses.

You have to look at their structures. Afghanistan has a weak First Class system, it can't provide experience players who could captain the team. Right now exprience is only being gained from international games, and Asghar is the most experience one

SHahzad is a lunatic. ANd Nabi isn't captain material.

Afghanistan needs a guy who could keep them well behave and checked.

I have watched alot of Afghanistan Cricket and i have seen how they often bat. Asghar is leading the team well with what he has got.

He is well experience, playing from the days of Allah Dad Noori.
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I don't know. I think Afghanistan has a few batsman who have been going well in domestic and could easily take his place. On what basis is Nabi not captain material btw? I don't think he has ever captained
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I don't know. I think Afghanistan has a few batsman who have been going well in domestic and could easily take his place. On what basis is Nabi not captain material btw? I don't think he has ever captained
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He was captain 2015 WC.
He gave it up himself.
Wanted to focus on his own performance.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I don't know. I think Afghanistan has a few batsman who have been going well in domestic and could easily take his place. On what basis is Nabi not captain material btw? I don't think he has ever captained
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Mohammad Nabi captained Afghanistan for 2 years. During that time the captaincy took a toll on his own performance. I think he couldn't handle it thus he quit as the captain back in 2015.

Asghar for now is the best option for captaincy.
Afghanistan doesn't have many batting options. I liked Noor Ali Zadran and Usman Ghani had good stats. But lately they have been poor.
 
Noor Ali has been through lot og injuries, but he is on his way. BTW he is uncle to Mujeeb. usman isn’t good enough. hazratullah looks promising
 
Major said:
After Nowroz Mangal was forced to resign as captain, Afghansitan didn't have any level headed player.

Nabi was tried as a captain, they even tried rashid aswell.

The thing about Asghar Stanikzai (or afghan) is that for a pashtun, he is quite level headed. This i say because, few years ago, when the Afghanistan team was playing odi games against Test nations, they were just whacking their bat. They were not playing proper innings. Asghar on the other hand would play the anchor role and bat sensibly. Yes his avg isn't that great, but when Afghanistan use to play tullaybaaz cricketers, he was the guy who use to stand there at the crease.

Yes, Afghanistan has now got Rehmat shah and other guys coming in, but they are not quite experienced yet. Afghanistan's first class structure is quite new and can't provide experience to players, thus they have to keep Asghar as captain currently.

Asghar experiences could be seen the way he captains his team.
1) He controls his team. The Afghani players often do act in negative fashion. Mohammad Shahzad is the best example

2) He knows how to use his bowlers. Often associate and lower ranked odi captains make too many bowling changes. They end up asking 8 guys to bowl.
Asghar doesn't apply these weird tactics. If he has 5 bowlers, he will make sure all 5 bowl and might give the 6th bowler 2-3 overs. He doesn't bowl 7-8 bowlers just for the sake of getting a wicket. He knows how to apply pressure. I have seen matches where they did not bowl Samiullah Shinwari as the 6th bowler, because he often gets the line and length wrong.

3) He captains according to the condition. Afghanistan has many good pace bowlers aswell. There is dawlat Zadran, Shapoor, Yamin AHmadzai, Izatullah and Wafadar. Yet, he doesn't play these guys just for the sake of it. He looks at the condition.
UAE is known for being a spinners paradise. Hence, he played 3 spinners in the alst match and today he is playing 4.

Look at our Captain. Sarfraz knew we were going to UAE, he has played under Misbah and seen how he uses spinners and still he took 2 spinners in the squad, and played 1 spinner in the last match. He was forced to use Fakahr zaman in the match.

India on the other hand have only played 2 games in UAE in the past and yet they know that these pitches are for spinners.

So you see, Asghar is quite an experience player. Afghanistan doesn;t have any other player that is more experienced than him and there first class system ain't gonna allow that either.

THey will have to keep Asghar for 3 more years before they could try someone else.
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Very informative. I never knew so much about Afghan team setup till today.
 
Major said:
Mohammad Nabi captained Afghanistan for 2 years. During that time the captaincy took a toll on his own performance. I think he couldn't handle it thus he quit as the captain back in 2015.

Asghar for now is the best option for captaincy.
Afghanistan doesn't have many batting options. I liked Noor Ali Zadran and Usman Ghani had good stats. But lately they have been poor.
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Fair enough I guess. Ultimately though I think it's going to go to Rashid.

How good is Bahir Shah as a future batting prospect?
 
Major said:
this is just bull crap.

He has a brother called Karim Janat. Medium pacer that could also bat. Even Aftab Alam is a medium pacer and yet he is playing.
Karim has only played 1 odi

If he wanted, he could bring in Karim instead of Aftab.
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Oh I see.

The fact his brother has also played for Afghanistan shows he is not well connected.

Thanks I guess. /s
 
Should rename the Asia Cup to Specialist Captains Cup.

Asghar
Sarfi
Dhoni
Mashrafe
Matthews
Not sure who the Hong Kong captain is.
 
Guy is still garbage (cant recall him ever troubling us in the ODI format) but I will say watching him over the years when he wants to he can hit a long ball. Not the worst striker of a cricket ball by any means.
 
You got the answer OP.

And afg side is looking a lot more mature than the last time I saw them. Playing proper cricket instead of tullay baazi.

Credit to the captain.
 
Donal Cozzie said:
Guy is still garbage (cant recall him ever troubling us in the ODI format) but I will say watching him over the years when he wants to he can hit a long ball. Not the worst striker of a cricket ball by any means.
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He may be garbage but he is playing a gem here and I don’t see the problem with him Afghanistan does not have Kohli on the bench to replace him
 
Donal Cozzie said:
Guy is still garbage (cant recall him ever troubling us in the ODI format) but I will say watching him over the years when he wants to he can hit a long ball. Not the worst striker of a cricket ball by any means.
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A player like him who can build and anchor the innings is gold and would automatically become the best batsman in sides like Ireland, Afg etc.
 
This guy is not good for Afg he is too one dimensional. He is old mindset type. Afg need Rashid Khan as captain, go forward with their best asset. Afghan, the captain does the same approach all the time!
 
Hawkeye said:
A player like him who can build and anchor the innings is gold and would automatically become the best batsman in sides like Ireland, Afg etc.
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Not for Ireland no. Irelands exact problem is that the team is filled with players averaging 20 at a 60 SR, another one wont help. One innings does not a batsman make.
 
Donal Cozzie said:
Quite possibly the worst cricketer I have ever seen in the ODI format. Barely averaging 20, at a SR of about 60, for a no.5 batsman. Getting him out harms your chances :))

That said, he seems to control this Afghan side very well. When Rashid was thrown the captaincy in the WCQ's they fell apart completely and lost three out of three, regained their touch after he came back, so obviously he provides value in the sense that he seems to be respected by the whole squad which in a country with as many ethnicities and such as Afghanistan may not be easy to do.

That said he is very much a passenger in this team and can consider himself very fortunate to have arguably the best spin bowling attack in the world to call on whenever he needs a get out of jail card.
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Afghanistan may be diverse but the cricket team is not diverse, all the players are pashtun so asghar stanikzai/afghan doesn't really do anything to unify them based on ethnicity lol. I think the players only respect him cause of he's one of the oldest players, asian cultures have a cultural heirarchy and asian people, especially afghans would never follow the orders of a young captain.
 
Asghar Afghan becomes the first Afghan batsman to cross the 150 mark in Test Cricket!
 
Afghanistan captain Asghar Afghan equaled MS Dhoni's record of most wins as captain in T20I cricket after leading his team to a comprehensive 45-run win over Zimbabwe on Friday. Both Asghar and Dhoni have now led their teams to 41 victories in the shortest format of the game.

MS Dhoni had won 41 games in 72 T20I matches as India captain with a winning percentage of 59.28 percent while Asghar has won 41 games as Afghanistan skipper in 51 matches and has a winning percentage of 81.37.

Dhoni has led Team India in 72 T20I matches, which also include the historic 2007 T20 World Cup triumph. Asghar, on the other hand, has led the Afghanistan team in 51 T20Is.

Afghanistan sealed a 2-0 unbeatable lead in the 3-match T20I series against Zimbabwe after winning the 2nd T20I by a handsome 45-run margin at the Sheikh Zayed Stadium in Abu Dhabi on Friday.

Indian Premier League stars Mohammad Nabi and Rashid Khan were the stars of Afghanistan's big win as the duo came up with all-around show to outclass Zimbabwe. After opting to bat, Afghanistan posted 193 on the board in their quota of 20 overs before restricting the visitors to 148-all out in 17.1 overs.

A quickfire 53 from 38 balls from Karim Janat and a 15-ball 40 from senior campaigner Mohammad Nabi helped Afghanistan post the big total. They lost wicketkeeper

"T20s are very important for us with the World Cup coming. Morale is high if you win. Today Karim and Usman partnership was really good," Asghar said.

https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cr...-most-wins-as-t20i-captain-1781382-2021-03-20
 
Asghar afghan to retire. He will be playing his last game against namibia.

Really feel bad about this. Not that i care, but after Nowroz Mangal, he was handed the reigns of afghan cricket. Many captains were tried and all failed, but Asghar always came in and stood in. He was not a good batsmen but as a caotain he was someone who was able to unite them and keep them in check.

I feel bad for him for the way he was treated, as soon as the team did well, he was removed as captain and new players were tried. When the new guy would fail he would again be made captain. This happened with nabi, rehmat shah, gulbadin and rashid khan.
 
Major said:
Asghar afghan to retire. He will be playing his last game against namibia.

Really feel bad about this. Not that i care, but after Nowroz Mangal, he was handed the reigns of afghan cricket. Many captains were tried and all failed, but Asghar always came in and stood in. He was not a good batsmen but as a caotain he was someone who was able to unite them and keep them in check.

I feel bad for him for the way he was treated, as soon as the team did well, he was removed as captain and new players were tried. When the new guy would fail he would again be made captain. This happened with nabi, rehmat shah, gulbadin and rashid khan.
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Is there a reason for his retirement in the middle of the tournament?
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Afghanistan’s ex captain Asghar Afghan who holds the highest winning streak as a captain in T20 internationals surpassing Indian legend Ms Dhoni by one extra win, decides to bid farewell with all formats of cricket in Afghanistan’s third match against Namibia at <a href="https://twitter.com/T20WorldCup?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@T20WorldCup</a>.<br>1/1 <a href="https://t.co/4nxfeoctjj">pic.twitter.com/4nxfeoctjj</a></p>— Afghanistan Cricket Board (@ACBofficials) <a href="https://twitter.com/ACBofficials/status/1454494286104473600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/ACBofficials?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ACBofficials</a> welcomes and respects his decision, expresses gratitudes for his services to the country. It will take a lot of hard work for young Afghan cricketers to fill his shoes.<br>1/2</p>— Afghanistan Cricket Board (@ACBofficials) <a href="https://twitter.com/ACBofficials/status/1454494476194521089?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Former Afghanistan captain Asghar Afghan has said the ICC Men's T20 World Cup match against Namibia on Sunday will be his last.
Afghan, 33, has represented Afghanistan in 114 ODIs and six Tests, and if he plays Sunday's game, will have featured in 75 T20Is. Only Mohammad Nabi has played more international matches for the country.

With 4215 runs so far across formats, he is their third-highest run-scorer of all time.

Afghan announced the news in a video on social media on the eve of the fixture. This was confirmed by the Afghanistan Cricket Board in a statement on social media that said, "Afghanistan’s ex captain Asghar Afghan who holds the highest winning streak as a captain in T20 internationals surpassing Indian legend MS Dhoni by one extra win, decides to bid farewell with all formats of cricket in Afghanistan’s third match against Namibia.

"[ACB] welcomes and respects his decision, expresses gratitudes for his services to the country. It will take a lot of hard work for young Afghan cricketers to fill his shoes."

Having featured in the U17 side for Afghanistan, Afghan made his senior debut in 2004. He has since been a key member of the Afghanistan side that enjoyed a meteoric rise up the ranks from Division 5 in 2008 to playing a 50-over World Cup in 2015 and becoming a Full Member nation in 2018.

Afghan has been skipper for 115 of the matches he's played, including in the country's maiden Test. He has been captain in 52 T20Is, and led in 42 wins, putting him one ahead of MS Dhoni, who won 41 of the 72 matches he has led.

He retires with a century in both ODIs and Tests, having made 164 in the first innings against Zimbabwe in Abu Dhabi earlier this year.
 
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Definately all is not good in the Afghanistan camp, which is quite sad. Looks like there are a lot of differences amongst players.

We still do not know what happens at the ICC meeting next month and if ACB face any sanctions for not fielding a women's team.
 
He seems to be that guy who acts smart in the group and gives advices.
 
mak36 said:
Apparently he is well connected.
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Pretty much this.

Unfortunately, Afghanistan has been continuously ranked among the top 5 most corrupt countries in the world for the last many years.

As you could see, he got his brother in - and how dearly that cost them the game against Pakistan.
 
pakistanisgreat said:
Is there a reason for his retirement in the middle of the tournament?
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He just said in an interview that he was deeply hurt at the loss in the last match

I have a feeling he cannot handle the hate and abuse hurled at his family because of his brother bottling 24 runs to defend. Some Afghan fans were calling Jannat a traitor who’s family is based in Pakistan, as if he was purposely trying to help Pakistan.
 
He will be associated with Afghanistan Cricket as their Captain, just like AH Kardar is with Pak.

For some reason, he always looked charged up and fired against Pak in all formats.

He said that he is retiring in the middle of the tournament because he is too hurt by the loss against Pak.

It could be seen from different angles. One is what [MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION] just speculated. Another could be him not being able to bear losing consistently to Pak.
 
Rana said:
He just said in an interview that he was deeply hurt at the loss in the last match

I have a feeling he cannot handle the hate and abuse hurled at his family because of his brother bottling 24 runs to defend. Some Afghan fans were calling Jannat a traitor who’s family is based in Pakistan, as if he was purposely trying to help Pakistan.
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I didnt realize they were actually brothers. Seems like conflict of interest
 
If Afghans are going to retire on emotional basis after a close and tense match, I don’t think they will last long at all as a cricketing nation.

This is a tough sport. Especially tough for those who do not have the financial infrastructure to compete with the big sides. Afghans need to chill.
 
Just read on twitter apparently he retired because he was going to be dropped from the playing 11. So decided best to retire and let younger players have a chance.
 
Guard of honour for Asghar:

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I want to give chance to youngsters. I think this is a good opportunity for that,” Afghan told the broadcaster.

When asked why he decided to retire in the middle of the tournament, he said: “Most people are asking me why now but it's something I cannot explain. In the last match, we were hurt too much, and that's why I decided to retire.”

https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/t2...ard-of-honour-from-namibia-1871701-2021-10-31
 
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With Mujeeb injury and Afghan retiring forcing Afghanistan to bring in Hamid could make their bowling stronger against Ind and Nz.
I am predicting that NZ beats Ind, Ind beats Afg, Afg beats NZ all 3 will be on same points with 1 team going through on runrate.
 
Rana said:
If Afghans are going to retire on emotional basis after a close and tense match, I don’t think they will last long at all as a cricketing nation.

This is a tough sport. Especially tough for those who do not have the financial infrastructure to compete with the big sides. Afghans need to chill.
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I think he just wanted to retire on a high - knowing they would most likely beat Namibia
 
From ICC.

The International Cricket Council (ICC) has congratulated former Afghanistan captain Asghar Afghan for a superb career that has seen him play a crucial role in his country’s rise in international cricket.

The batter, who has been a part of all seven major ICC tournaments that Afghanistan have participated in, has announced his retirement from all formats of the game.

His final match came against Namibia in the Super 12 stage of the ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2021 on Sunday.

ICC Acting Chief Executive Geoff Allardice said: “Asghar has been a great ambassador of the game and played a huge part in Afghanistan’s rise up the ranks in world cricket.

“He has played a pivotal role as batter and led his team astutely during his time as captain.

“On behalf of the ICC, I wish him all the best for the future and hope that he continues to be associated with the game in the years to come.
The 33-year-old finished his career having played 114 ODI matches, scoring 2,424 runs with a century and 12 half-centuries. He also scored 440 runs in six Test matches.

Asghar captained his country in their first-ever Test match against India in 2018 and at the ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2016.

At the time of his retirement, he holds the record for the most wins as captain in T20 internationals having led his team to victory in 42 games.
 
This retirement becomes tad interesting. Was todays match fix
 
He even played the match against Namibia. Just didn't want to be a part of this match. It is clear as day light why he retired and this guy has my respect.
 
Former Afghanistan captain Asghar Afghan confidently stated that Afghanistan should be one of the four semi-finalists in the upcoming 2024 T20 World Cup during an interview with local Indian media, he said:

"Afghanistan should play the semi-final of the T20 World Cup because, in the USA and West Indies, they will find the same sort of conditions as it is in Asia. There, bowlers get spin, and the ball sometimes comes late on the bat. And that could play to our advantage."

"And with the kind of results they got in the ODI World Cup, Afghanistan should definitely play the semi-final of the World Cup. But they need to work extremely hard for that. And if they could believe in themselves, nothing is impossible for Afghanistan."

"If this Afghanistan side continues to play home and away series against the bigger sides, I am certain that we will see a different Afghanistan in the T20 World Cup. People will enjoy our cricket, and it will be much better than this ODI World Cup."

"We had a good preparation for the ODI World Cup, and we have enough time to prepare for the T20 World Cup now. I can't say right now who is going to perform or not. Everybody has the chance, but it is important to prepare the team first. If we play some big matches and work on our approach, I am sure that we will play 90 percent better than our last T20 World Cup."
 
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