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Ashes 2025/26: Australia vs England | 3rd Test | Adelaide | December 17-21 | Match Discussion

Which side will win the 3rd Ashes Test at Adelaide?


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They play pink ball test vs India at Adelaide and here they have given a traditional SC style pitch to England. I remember back in 2000s, we enjoyed playing at Adelaide and Sydney both.

Last year, Adelaide became pink ball test and Sydney became a very seamer friendly wicket suited for 4 pace/ seam + 1 spin combo rather than 3+ 2.
Even before the Test they told Adelaide will be the most bazball friendly pitch. England contrived to collapse thanks to some good bowling from Cummins. Pitch is slow. But 4th innings is generally tough at the Adelaide oval. I remember teams collapsing under 150 here.
 
It is not surprise tailenders showing resistance against old kookaburra ball on a slow pitch. Many teams have done in the past. Rolling over tail in Australia is as straight forward.
 
Crawley and Pope are two of the worst top order batsmen I’ve ever seen at this level (of a major intl side).
Rory Burns, the ugliest batting stance west of Dhaka?

Ravi Bopara the #3 a decade ago ago?

Sibley, Dan Lawrence in the recent times.

A few names come to mind instantly.

Post-Root England haven’t unearthed a genuine Test batter — I’d happily put the neighbour’s house and Bangladesh’s treasury on that one.
 
Gill came to England and showed Brooks who is the boss while Brooks is scared of coming to India in whites and hence decided to skip the 2024 tour. :klopp
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He actually skipped the tour because his grandmother was ill... she later passed away.

Also, his name is Brook, not Brooks.
 
Back to back wickets for England .

Lead is 234/4. Can England bowled them before 350?

Pitch has nothing for bowlers so we may get a thriller
:kp
 
If Inglis doesn't score today, he needs to be dropped. Adds zero value to this Australian lineup.

Green at least has his bowling
 
If Inglis doesn't score today, he needs to be dropped. Adds zero value to this Australian lineup.

Green at least has his bowling
They might as well play Mitch Marsh. Bumrah terminated his test career. He troubled most of them. Marsh would have thrashed this English attack liek he did in England
 
They might as well play Mitch Marsh. Bumrah terminated his test career. He troubled most of them. Marsh would have thrashed this English attack liek he did in England
Nah. Marsh is pretty much done with this format. Need a domestic player like Renshaw in that middle order and drop Green and Carey to #6 and #7
 
Nah. Marsh is pretty much done with this format. Need a domestic player like Renshaw in that middle order and drop Green and Carey to #6 and #7
Marsh a terrific fielder. Can chip in witha few overs. Also these bouncers would land 20 rows back. A good counter attacking batsman. Webster is another choice.
 
All this talk around Khawaja's career ending - he has done far better than Green or Inglis.

He deserves to play this series going forward over either of those two. Then he can retire.
 
Bashir's inclusion in the team doesn't make much of a difference, as he is a mediocre spinner.:kp

Thats not the Point Einstein. Point is, England identified him as the Spinner a few years back, why now go against the plan. Clearly, England have not prepared well at all.

As for Quality spinners in England. There isn't any. Bar Swann, I've never seen a decent England spinner.
 
Time is running out, England should ban these useless Ashes (time consuming) and organize bazball flat decks at home and invite Asian Teams to help Joe Root chase Sachin Tendulkar... Otherwise he may fall short like Cook...
 
All this talk around Khawaja's career ending - he has done far better than Green or Inglis.

He deserves to play this series going forward over either of those two. Then he can retire.
Not Green. His bowling has been really good. And his catching at gully is exceptional.

Inglis is the real liability.
 
Stokes & Baz must be mighty please with Jacks figures of 222 for 3 in 39 overs [ till now ] in this game .
 
India is way more competitive in Australia, BGT should be the new Ashes for Australia, like how we think it is way better than Indo-Pak Series ;)
But at home we are worse than Bangladesh at the moment :ROFLMAO:
 
Head masterclass gives England the kiss of death

Travis Head continued his Adelaide Oval love affair with a fourth successive Test century at the venue to bury England on day three

Sealed with a kiss, Travis Head's love for Adelaide Oval and its rowdy punters has left England on the brink of a yet another Ashes capitulation Down Under.

Ben Stokes, having pushed himself to physical and mental exhaustion, spent time off the field and was unable to bowl on day three as the series he has so desperately fought to keep within his team's grasp slipped away.

Head's hometown fans milled back out over the River Torrens and into Adelaide's city bars heaving with festive cheer talking only of their local hero's latest act of brilliance, this one standing at 142no from 196 balls, as Australia's lead grew to 356 by stumps.

The Bazball revolution came to life three years ago with a series of captivating fourth-innings run chases, but Brendon McCullum's men would now need to pull off the mother of all comebacks to stop Australia from pushing the NRMA Insurance series margin out to an urn-clinching 3-0 in the coming days.

Or play for a draw, the antithesis of what this England outfit has stood for.

The Members' stands had swollen in number as they prepared to celebrate a ton by a born-and-bred local for the second time in three days. Head did not disappoint in Adelaide’s afternoon sun, sharing spine-tingling embrace with this game's other South Australian centurion, Alex Carey, when he reached his fourth Test ton here and 11th overall.

Head endured a nervous nine-ball wait when his score was on 99, during which time Harry Brook missed the opportunity to play the ultimate party-pooper when he put down a tough diving chance in the gully off an exasperated Jofra Archer.

The 32-year-old from Tea Tree Gully then took matters into his own hands, charging Joe Root and depositing him for four over long off. He proceeded to take off his helmet and gloves, drop to his knees and kiss the drop-in pitch he now averages 87.33 on.

Head and Carey (52no from 91) walked off arm-in-arm at stumps with their partnership having reached 122 to have the Aussies sitting pretty on 4-271.

Stokes, with bat in hand, had drawn on all his reserves after his day-two act of defiance in brutal heat, helping to halve England's deficit which had stood at 158 at the beginning of play with only two wickets to play with.

With No.10 Archer showing more resilience with the bat than the bulk of his top-order teammates, the pair who had held a heated mid-pitch argument earlier in the match joined forces for England's second highest partnership of the series.

Their 106-run union kept them in the Test but England, with Australia still holding an 85-run first-innings lead when both were finally dismissed, knew they still needed their best bowling effort of the series to remain in it.

When Jake Weatherald failed to review his lbw off Brydon Carse that pitched outside leg-stump and Marnus Labuschagne was undone by some tight seam bowling, Usman Khawaja was left to pick up the pieces with the man who has essentially taken his opening spot.

Head and Khawaja's 86-run partnership effectively shut the door on England, with the 39-year-old veteran again doing a bang-up job standing in for Australia's best batter, Steve Smith.

Manipulating fields delicately while scoring a brisk pace, Khawaja had added 40 to his first-innings score of 82 when he edged a Will Jacks' delivery that was so bad even the off-spinner looked embarrassed to have taken a wicket with it.

Jacks was equally generous to Cameron Green. On a pair, the tall right-hander nudged his first-up half-volley for four but had put on only a further three runs before he edged a wide, full Josh Tongue delivery to Brook one delivery after he had missed a near identical ball.

England cycled through several plans to Head, the newest of which involved their right-arm seamers angling balls from over the wicket to a wide-of-off line with only two fielders on the leg.

Neither that, nor their standard pitch-it-up tactics with the new ball, nor their familiar short-ball barrage, nor Jacks' mostly unthreatening off-breaks worked as the maverick leftie carted 13 boundaries and two sixes.

With England resuming eight wickets down on the third morning, Australia held back their main seamers for the first hour of play, instead waiting for the second new ball becoming available after 12 overs.

It allowed Stokes and Archer to reach to build up considerable momentum and enjoy the Barmy Army support growing in volume, the pair offering a ray of hope of getting their side back into the series.

The hallmark of a famous comeback felt like it might be writ large. Here, Stokes took 159 balls to reach his fifty, the most he's ever needed. His previous slowest half-century (152 balls) came during his 2019 Headingley miracle that still gives the Australians nightmares.

Tellingly, it was Mitchell Starc (not selected for the 2019 Leeds Test) who delivered the knockout blow. Having found prodigious swing with the second new ball, the left-armer fired in a wobble-seam ball that jagged back into Stokes' off-stump.

England's talisman stamped his feet like a toddler and roared in frustration, throwing his bat in the air surely knowing the final nail in the Bazball coffin had been hammered in by Starc, who now has Stokes' wicket 12 times in Tests.

When Archer's valiant stay was ended to give Scott Boland (3-45) a third victim for the innings, England's deficit had been halved yet the herculean effort they required never materialised.

 
Light rain forecast on day 5 from early morning till 1 pm ... hopefully Cummins takes that in to account & pulls the plug by lunch tomorrow . Even on this flat deck ENG not chasing 450 !
 
Looks like Oz is going to try and score a quick 150 runs tommorow and declare. I don't see Eng winning this match anymore, I totally predicted England's performance incorrectly...
 
That's alright. But since Head is doing so well at the top, it would be unwise to break that opening pair imo.

Renshaw should be alright in the middle order as well

In the long run I still don't think opening is Head's best position. At least not in England/South Africa/NZ
 
He actually skipped the tour because his grandmother was ill... she later passed away.

Also, his name is Brook, not Brooks.
That means his numbers are built on stat padding vs Pakistan and New Zealand on flat decks.

I like to call him Brooks.
 
England hurtling towards fastest Ashes series defeat in more than 100 years.

First test (Perth) finished in 2 days.
Second test (Brisbane) finished on day 4.
This test might finish on day 4 as well.

Travis is headache for both England and India.
 
England hurtling towards fastest Ashes series defeat in more than 100 years.

First test (Perth) finished in 2 days.
Second test (Brisbane) finished on day 4.
This test might finish on day 4 as well.

Travis is headache for both England and India.
no chance on this deck !
 
England are poor, especially as this Australian team has a really average (by their high standards) batting line-up.
Not entirely sure why Green is lauded so much — maybe he is a good T20 player (I suppose he is based on his IPL fee) but he is a mediocre Test player.
Inglis, Weatherall similarly
England never had a better chance to win the Ashes in Australia and they blew it.
 
Test cricket demands temperament (patience and discipline) apart from talent and technique (The 3 ‘T’s) and English batters just have n’t shown the right temperament in this series. Too many reckless, airy-fairy shots. English pace bowling also has a sameness about it apart from Archer; not penetrative enough imo. They also lack a quality spinner. Catching has been poor throughout as well.

Bazball (one style fits all) can only work on flat pitches
 
The moral of the story for England:

You don’t win tests by playing well only in patches.
 
Test cricket demands temperament (patience and discipline) apart from talent and technique (The 3 ‘T’s) and English batters just have n’t shown the right temperament in this series. Too many reckless, airy-fairy shots. English pace bowling also has a sameness about it apart from Archer; not penetrative enough imo. They also lack a quality spinner. Catching has been poor throughout as well.

Bazball (one style fits all) can only work on flat pitches
Can’t bat, can’t bowl, can’t field LOL
 
That means his numbers are built on stat padding vs Pakistan and New Zealand on flat decks.

I like to call him Brooks.
And Gill hasn't statpadded on flat English decks? It's not like he has set the world on fire in place where the ball has moved around.

Anyway it's foolish to compare them statistically right now because they haven't played alot of Test cricket, but I am of the opinion that Brook is a far more talented player than Gill.
 
And Gill hasn't statpadded on flat English decks? It's not like he has set the world on fire in place where the ball has moved around.

Anyway it's foolish to compare them statistically right now because they haven't played alot of Test cricket, but I am of the opinion that Brook is a far more talented player than Gill.
Yes, he has. He gets a lot of flak too and not rated very highly as people thought when he started. Brooks is hyped as the next biggest thing which is actually absurd.
 
Yes, he has. He gets a lot of flak too and not rated very highly as people thought when he started. Brooks is hyped as the next biggest thing which is actually absurd.
Nothing absurd about it given Brook's talent and what he has done so far in Test cricket. Gill has mostly done nothing barring the one series in England and a few knocks at home, so there's a very good reason why he is not rated highly.
 
Nothing absurd about it given Brook's talent and what he has done so far in Test cricket. Gill has mostly done nothing barring the one series in England and a few knocks at home, so there's a very good reason why he is not rated highly.
Gill is tested, Brooks hasn’t been in Australia or India or South Africa.
 
Australia are effectively at 356/4.

Head is on 142*.

Head or Starc should be the man of the series. Both are having a great series.
 
Test gone, Ashes gone, England gone, McCullum gone, BAZBALL gone. Stokes might go too.
Stokes looks fried.

He has played well but reverted back to old school batting.

It means his plan and leadership style failed.

Other players might be more cautious and double minded now and reluctant to disrupt things. Should they play normal or go for bazball, once a player is completelty double minded, especially already weak players like crawley or pope then it is difficult to score at all.

The wheels have sadly come off Stokes' leadership.
 
Australia has not won an Ashes in England since 2001, however they have not lost one either since 2009.

Australia even when they are not playing their best cricket (lost 2-1 in both 2005 and 2009 which were close affairs) are still competitive in England

England on the other hand have failed to compete/been humiliated in away Ashes since 2011 (when they won 3-1 under Strauss)

And this is not a great Australia batting side either….apart from Travis Head and Steve Smith. The rest are decent rather than great batsmen.
 
Australia has not won an Ashes in England since 2001, however they have not lost one either since 2009.

Australia even when they are not playing their best cricket (lost 2-1 in both 2005 and 2009 which were close affairs) are still competitive in England

England on the other hand have failed to compete/been humiliated in away Ashes since 2011 (when they won 3-1 under Strauss)

And this is not a great Australia batting side either….apart from Travis Head and Steve Smith. The rest are decent rather than great batsmen.

England won the Ashes 3-2 in 2015.
 
I think not playing Shoaib Bashir was a really defensive option taken by Eng think tank. He was going to be attacked by Aus bowlers but he had more potential to disturb Aussie batsmen compared to the other no-name spinners Eng ended up playing.

Before the series there were two obvious weak links in Eng’s XI, Bashir and Pope. Eng dropped one and kept trusting the other to come good. For the next match, I expect Bashir to come back in and Pope to sit out. Shows Eng faltered with their planning on these two spots.
 
What a shambolic effort by bazball guys... They surrendered just after third Test after such a fanfare and hype before the series
 
England despite seeing what works in Australia repeatedly makes mistakes. YOu have to bat time in Australia. RUns will come eventually. You ahve to bat 120 overs minimum on flat wickets.
 
I think not playing Shoaib Bashir was a really defensive option taken by Eng think tank. He was going to be attacked by Aus bowlers but he had more potential to disturb Aussie batsmen compared to the other no-name spinners Eng ended up playing.

Before the series there were two obvious weak links in Eng’s XI, Bashir and Pope. Eng dropped one and kept trusting the other to come good. For the next match, I expect Bashir to come back in and Pope to sit out. Shows Eng faltered with their planning on these two spots.
His bowling was hardly better than Jacks' . That's why they went for the better batting option in Jacks
 
His bowling was hardly better than Jacks' . That's why they went for the better batting option in Jacks
Yes and this is a defensive move. You can’t select your main spinner based on his batting on a tour as testing as the ashes.

They clearly prepared Shoaib for this occasion. He got the beating and the experience in Ind series and elsewhere.
 
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