Asif Ali Zardari becomes the president of Pakistan

[Savak]

Yeah Yeah and He discussed his plans with you...

) Your actually defending him. There must be more to your support of our so called Democracy.

 

[Momo]

^^ And why not? If people can welcome and defend a "ghaasib" in the form of Musharraf, who broke the constituton to become president, what's wrong in defending somebody who was elected according to the constitution, and who isn't yet two days in office and has not done anything exactly impeachable either.

Please educate us on this.

 

[Savak]

^^ And why not? If people can welcome and defend a "ghaasib" in the form of Musharraf, who broke the constituton to become president, what's wrong in defending somebody who was elected according to the constitution, and who isn't yet two days in office and has not done anything exactly impeachable either.

Please educate us on this.

If we were a true democracy, Zardari would not have been allowed to sit in Politics given his controversial character, past let alone join politics and become President. The election of a person of Zardari's nature is an insult to each and every Pakistani.

 

[Momo]

^^ What was you opinion on the "election" of Musharraf as president? Did that qualify as an insult to Pakistanis or was that "kinda okay"?

As for past, may I respectfully remind you about the Kargil adventure, which happened a few weeks before Mush's coup?

 

[Tapori]

Momo - I guess a debate of Zardari vs musharraf etc comes down to "the lesser of two evils"

 

[Momo]

Tapori - who, may I ask, is your contender for the "lesser of two evils"?

And do you believe in ends justifying means? In other words, even if granted that one has good intentions, is it okay - in your opinion - if one employes illegal means?

 

[the Great Khan]

zardari is something else...i dont think we really know what kind of president he's gonna be but one things for sure, he can double cross the best of them...and I think he will double cross mr khalidzad and the americans first with the help of the PA...things will get very interesting!!

 

[Mohsin]

A very good sign indeed. I am telling you guys, this time Inshaallah Zardari means business - pun not intended.

))

But seriously, why is everyone putting everyone down already for goodness sake? Can we not live in hope?

Look on the bright side, he's stolen all the money in the world so this time he has no reason to do so and he maybe wants to go out on a high and be known for good...

EDIT: I've just seen this post:

''Two recent decisions by Mr. Zardari showed a disregard for Pakistan’s alarming deficits, they said, speaking anonymously because they did not want to publicly criticize the next president.

In April, Mr. Zardari told Ishaq Dar, the finance minister at the time and a member of Mr. Sharif’s party, which has since broken with Mr. Zardari, that he wanted the price the government paid farmers for wheat to be raised substantially as a way of rewarding an important constituency in Punjab Province, the nation’s most populous, according to two participants in the discussion with Mr. Zardari. The government would then have to heavily subsidize the cost of wheat to the consumer.

When Mr. Dar asked Mr. Zardari how he thought the government would pay for the subsidy, Mr. Zardari replied, “Print the notes,” according to the two participants, a government official and an associate of Mr. Zardari’s. In an effort to solve the impasse over the subsidy, it was suggested that Mr. Zardari form a committee of experts.

“ ‘I am the expert,’ ” Mr. Zardari said, according to his associate. '

 

[Tapori]

Momo - I regard Zardari to be the more evil, though not by much (I am not some pro-Musharraf zealot!)

Zardari's rise in the PPP is hilariious (I;m not even going to get into his previous misdemeanors) (as is SHarifs PML-N) because he should not be the head of the party that does not democratically elect its leader (its not family furniture - Amin Makhdoom Fahim should have been the obvious representative)

Musharraf I believe was inevitably corrupted by supreme power and to me seems MORE sincere than Zardari -

Zardari has already reneged on more contracts then Musharraf did in his whole tenure. Though the look on Sharif's face will always be priceless !

Musharraf is a man of the military - Granted that doesnt make him an automatic saint (lest we fall into the American "patriot" argument based solely on army credentials)
But he to me seemed very sincere in wanting the best for the country, just doenst know how to be a politician
- less so than Sharif/Zardari whos heart doesnt seem to be for the people (whilst they bickered Food prices continued to soar with elec. blacouts)

People ALWAYS berate Musharraf to raking in American support but what were the alternatives? (I am not pre-empting this I GENUINELY want to know)
As I see it With Indian suport it would have been to much for us to handle.

Musharraf also freed the media immensely - I do acknowledge latter on he wnet a bit crazy but thats more than Zardari did as Benazirs husband.

Actually I guess some may say his inability to go was IN PART his reluctance to just hand over the keys to the country to the next corrupt establishment.

Kargil - There is a firm reason to attribute the WHOLE fiasco at Musharrafs door - Musharraf however is NOT the WHOLE Army.

I actually like those that say Zardari can be any worse because he has NO reason to steal this time!

Its a perception I hold and I for one second am not basing this on ABSOLUTE FACT - Just what I feel.

Also at least Zaradri HASNT been president. Sharif was Prime-Minister and look what hes aiming for (new constitutional role of "Supreme Leader" - Yeah VERY democratic!)

Ends justifying the means?

Depends on context, the illegalities involved (are you rebelling against a grossly unjust law etc) and what your ENDS are? (your ends may differ fro others)

I again implore everyone to watch "Nayak" (yes its Indian and draped with songs and often farcical scenes but the concept of the story is intriguing)
Dont watch the whole film, maybe - defo watch the LAST scene "Anil Kapoor Vs Amrish Puri - its NOT a "dishum" fight btw!)

I guess a better analogy for cleaning up Pakistan is that invariably cleaning up "the gutter" of Politics means getting your hands "dirty" at some point
- maybe I'm wrong, maybe there is someone/group who can do it cleanly.

zardari is something else...i dont think we really know what kind of president he's gonna be

In light of recent revelations I doubt even Zardari knows what kind of President hes gonna be...

Oh and a former Cricket Captain to help things right - my hope may be misguided but who else is there?

 

[Zeenix]

ISLAMABAD: President-elect Asif Ali Zardari has directed all the ministries as well as government departments not to publish any advertisement congratulating him as the new president.

In a statement on Monday, the newly elected president said, “We are a poor country and cannot afford such extravagance at the cost of the hard-earned money of our taxpayers. The world is watching us. The new democratic government is facing many challenges both internal and external and the government along with the people of Pakistan has to prove that it has the will and conviction to bring about positive changes in the social and economic structures of this country.”

Zardari further said the dictatorial rule has not been beneficial to Pakistan’s image in the comity of nations. “Regaining the lost respect is a grueling task and I believe that together we shall achieve this objective very soon,” he added.

Zardari stressed the importance of working hard and acting with austerity to take the nation on way to progress. It is pertinent to mention here that Zardari on Sunday reverted the Sindh government’s decision of observing public holiday on Monday. Zardari cancelled the decision terming it unnecessary and asked the people to work harder instead of wasting time in holidays.

 

[12thMan]

I have a feeling that he might be okay this time. He probably wants to save it for his son and PPP name.
But I don't like these things:
meeting with Karzai and photo of Benazir is there

and statements like
Mr Zardari paid tribute to his late wife, saying: "I accept the presidency of Pakistan in the name of... Benazir Bhutto. I accept this in her name and in the name of all the martyrs of democracy."
the above quote video is in http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7606004.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7606110.stm
The oath ceremony is in the above link too

 

[Rudi hater]

Bloody opportunist are trying to get noticed by advertising in the newspapers. I hate when people in Pakistan do to over exaggerate things.

 

[OZGOD]

I may have asked this before, but how important is the president in Pakistan? Is it he who runs the country, or the PM?

 

[OZGOD]

In April, Mr. Zardari told Ishaq Dar, the finance minister at the time and a member of Mr. Sharif’s party, which has since broken with Mr. Zardari, that he wanted the price the government paid farmers for wheat to be raised substantially as a way of rewarding an important constituency in Punjab Province, the nation’s most populous, according to two participants in the discussion with Mr. Zardari. The government would then have to heavily subsidize the cost of wheat to the consumer.

When Mr. Dar asked Mr. Zardari how he thought the government would pay for the subsidy, Mr. Zardari replied, “Print the notes,” according to the two participants, a government official and an associate of Mr. Zardari’s. In an effort to solve the impasse over the subsidy, it was suggested that Mr. Zardari form a committee of experts.

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Credit to: http://fiverupees.blogspot.com/[/QUOTE]

 

[Disco_Lemonade]

I may have asked this before, but how important is the president in Pakistan? Is it he who runs the country, or the PM?

Dont know much bout it but president have most powers currently, but all the powers should soon be shifted to the pm. Well hopefully, zardari wont back down as he did with the restoration of judges.

 

[OZGOD]

I still fail to comprehend how someone who has robbed the nation previously, has robbed the people of Pakistan and is a proven fraudster now finds himself as President.

How can this be? Do people have short memories or do they just not care?

 

[Vegitto1]

How can this be? Do people have short memories or do they just not care?

The common man goes out, casts a vote and thinks that his vote actually makes a difference/ )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lae7S626O1U

(You can watch it OZGOD...enough english in it for you to see what happened)

Watch it OZGOD you will love it

 

[Momo]

The common man goes out, casts a vote and thinks that his vote actually makes a difference/ )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lae7S626O1U

(You can watch it OZGOD...enough english in it for you to see what happened)

Watch it OZGOD you will love it

But I was under the impression that this election was conducted by that most upright and honest of specimens better known as "The Fearless Commando" (jo darta naeen eh).

 

[12thMan]

Chief Justice Chaudry have been asked to vacate his residence. Some guy Latif Khosa (maybe attorney general) has no knowledge about it. He says no case will be opened against PML Nawaz or Musharaff
- DAWN TV

 

[12thMan]

we will see. GEO was showing a lot of clips during breaks with Benazir saying that the Pakistani flag will be flying at Cheif Justice's residence

 

[ehjaz]

Lawyers went overboard and now they will pay the price.....btw number 10 plays a big role in Mr. President's life..... If you can recall 10% and 10 is IQ level as well

 

[Khabri420]

we will see. GEO was showing a lot of clips during breaks with Benazir saying that the Pakistani flag will be flying at Cheif Justice's residence

Well for one, Benazir is no longer alive. As for husband, he never wanted Chaudhry Bekaar back as CJ for obvious reasons....

Chief Justice ko kya mila? THAINGAA :Evil

 

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