At least 15 killed, dozens hurt in blast at mosque in Pakistan’s Islamabad

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Wahabism has spread the most hate in Pakistan. This i can share through my personal experience.

Deobandi and barelvi groups have had their differences, but it was not as if they would call each others mosque as haram, or label that you cant pray in each others mosque. Yes hate for shias has existed from deobandis, but it was always undergound, and never preached very freely.

Wahabismm was imported systematically into Pakistan. The isi chief hamid gul allowed its import. Badcially, the Saudia govt would spread wahabi influence by having wahabi madrassahs open up in every neighborhood of Pakistan. These madrsaash or houses would get direct funding. Now what these wahabi houses would send an invite to all women of the neighborhood, and would invite them to their house for a dars.

In pakistan, women dont have alot of social or fun activity, so these dars became a way of having somewhat social life. Ithese dars were like how embasseys have diplomatic dinners and parties. They would spread their wahab ideas, like how one should prey by keep on moving their index finger, how shias are bad, how any human who has gods name should use abdul at the start etc etc.

Wahabis had their own mosque. They considered it a sin to pray behind anyone else. Their qaris would openly promote jihad against india, and would help u get into a training camp in kashmir through their madrassah system if u wana take part in it.
On bakra eid they would ask for cow and goat hides, which they would openly say that they would sell it to buy weapons to use for jihad in kashmir.

Alot of hate and sectarianism has been spread by wahabis in pakistan. And one can only know this if you have lived or been part of the mohallah system of pakistan.

And i am telling all this based upon my own life experience

Wahabi sect are notorious for declaring others as kafirs and perhaps they preach violence in other countries. But they are not allowed to do it in Saudi Arabia. They should not have been allowed to do it in Pakistan either. That is why I say the responsibility has to lie with the Pakistan military for taking a soft line.

 

[Suleiman]

Cowards. Regardless of who did this, there’s an entire Zionist neighborhood just fresh off attempted genocide, and you’re going to assault innocent civilians in your own backyard? Instead of actually helping those in need?

There’s numerous outfits who could have done these heinous crimes considering how badly Pak has sold out itself to foreign powers that have ease of access, but the usual Khwariji extremists who have been at this for 2+ decades now are definitely prime suspects

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Bcos Paksitan has a definition of good terrorist and bad terrorist. When is nurtures and protects kasab hafeez and Maulana ...beca,use they kill Hindus or Russians...then this environment produces monsters who turn on their masters...there are similar Muslims in India too who despite is is best effort don't go and blow themselves up barring some bad apples. And no other religion followers will do what jehadi idealogy promotes.

Now it's you guys who have that definition. Good Talitubbies and bad Talitubbies. They were in your country shaking hands with your politicians remember?

Taliban foreign minister makes groundbreaking visit to India

Amir Khan Muttaqi flies into Delhi from Russia, on a once unimaginable visit being closely watched by Pakistan.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[emranabbas]

Wahabi sect are notorious for declaring others as kafirs and perhaps they preach violence in other countries. But they are not allowed to do it in Saudi Arabia. They should not have been allowed to do it in Pakistan either. That is why I say the responsibility has to lie with the Pakistan military for taking a soft line.

Why do you support these guys?

 

[emranabbas]

Cowards. Regardless of who did this, there’s an entire Zionist neighborhood just fresh off attempted genocide, and you’re going to assault innocent civilians in your own backyard? Instead of actually helping those in need?

There’s numerous outfits who could have done these heinous crimes considering how badly Pak has sold out itself to foreign powers that have ease of access, but the usual Khwariji extremists who have been at this for 2+ decades now are definitely prime suspects

But this attack has not been done by USA or any foreign powers

Its done by KPK terrorists who is likely to have roots in Afghanistan and they are very much anti USA anti pakistan and anti army

So I don't see why your blaming foreign powers and the army.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Why do you support these guys?

Why are you a closet Modi fan?

See two can play at that slander game.

 

[emranabbas]

Now it's you guys who have that definition. Good Talitubbies and bad Talitubbies. They were in your country shaking hands with your politicians remember?

Taliban foreign minister makes groundbreaking visit to India

Amir Khan Muttaqi flies into Delhi from Russia, on a once unimaginable visit being closely watched by Pakistan.

www.bbc.co.uk

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These are the same talitubbies your murshud imran khan wanted to have good realations with.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

These are the same talitubbies your murshud imran khan wanted to have good realations with.

They are also the same Talitubbies your murshid Modi wants to have good relations with. Figure that one out.

 

[Major]

Wahabi sect are notorious for declaring others as kafirs and perhaps they preach violence in other countries. But they are not allowed to do it in Saudi Arabia. They should not have been allowed to do it in Pakistan either. That is why I say the responsibility has to lie with the Pakistan military for taking a soft line.

More precisely Hamid Gul is responsible, who is some sort of a hero here...

 

[emranabbas]

Why are you a closet Modi fan?

See two can play at that slander game.

But its not slander its facts

Do the indians not fund these talitubbies in Afghanistan? which you already have said they do in your previous post.

And do these talitubbies not fund the terrorists in kpk and send terrorists into pakistan through the pakistan afghan border?

And you back those same terrorists in kpk because they support imran khan

You are more aligned with modi anti pakistan, anti government and anti army

Time to wake up and stop supporting these terrorist just because they are supporters of imran khan

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

But its not slander its facts

Do the indians not fund these talitubbies in Afghanistan? which you already have said they do in your previous post.

And do these talitubbies not fund the terrorists in kpk and send terrorists into pakistan through the pakistan afghan border?

And you back those same terrorists in kpk because they support imran khan

You are more aligned with modi anti pakistan, anti government and anti army

Time to wake up and stop supporting these terrorist just because they are supporters of imran khan

Were they doing terrorist attacks during Imran Khan's reign as PM?

 

[emranabbas]

They are also the same Talitubbies your murshid Modi wants to have good relations with. Figure that one out.

Imran Khan says Taliban's 'holy war' in Afghanistan is justified by Islamic law

Pakistani politician's comments at hospital that treated shooting victim Malala Yousafzai outrage Afghanistan's government

www.theguardian.com

Imran Khan says Taliban are ‘normal civilians’ not military outfit

Khan said he was called ‘Taliban Khan’ and ‘anti-American’ for opposing military solution

www.independent.co.uk

There you go

 

[Major]

I heard a brilliant narration on this issue from a Pakistani guy who was pretty educated but got pulled into this stuff. From memory, I don't think he actually fought in Kashmir or Afghanistan but he was all primed and ready to. He was frank that he just lost his courage after going through all the training and hyping up and ran away from the camp.

It was fascinating to hear how he got pulled in.

I have a particular memory of the narration because I remember one of the guys he was training with had a visceral hatred of Pakistani Shias and their blasphemies and was straining to teach them a lesson they would never forget.

The narrator himself found this something he couldn't relate to because he had Shia friends growing up.

It has stuck in my mind because he really talked about how quicksand-like these teachings were. And you're right he really talked about the all pervasive influence of Wahhabi teachings and how open and easy it all was.

They are very convincing. They used to run a very efficient dars/madrassah system.

I always considered Bakra Eid to be a bit disturbing because it was indirectly being used to fund attacks/terrorism in Kashmir part of India

Thank god Bin Salman came and ended this export

 

[emranabbas]

Were they doing terrorist attacks during Imran Khan's reign as PM?

Why would they? These terrorists had full support from your murshid imran khan

It's the pakistan government and pakistan army these terrorists have issue with hence causing chaos in pakistan

They were friends with imran khan

 

[Suleiman]

But this attack has not been done by USA or any foreign powers

Its done by KPK terrorists who is likely to have roots in Afghanistan and they are very much anti USA anti pakistan and anti army

So I don't see why your blaming foreign powers and the army.

No one knows who did it truly. On surface it may be KPK extremists but it’s clear there’s long term funding for these scum for years and years now beyond what some random outfit in KPK is capable of.

And I didn’t blame the army. Put your agenda shades down for a second before replying to everyone in the same way.

 

[emranabbas]

No one knows who did it truly. On surface it may be KPK extremists but it’s clear there’s long term funding for these scum for years and years now beyond what some random outfit in KPK is capable of.

And I didn’t blame the army. Put your agenda shades down for a second before replying to everyone in the same way.

Its done by yasir khan son of bahadur khan from kpk

The funding is from india through Afghanistan taliban

The army have been saying for time but for some reason these people are defended by PTI
And dont want to align with the government or the army due to internal politics

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Why would they? These terrorists had full support from your murshid imran khan


It's the pakistan government and pakistan army these terrorists have issue with hence causing chaos in pakistan

They were friends with imran khan

So you are happier now that the Talitubbies are launching terror attacks in Pakistan and shaking hands with Indian ministers?

Also for your information I am pretty sure the TTP are on record as saying Imran Khan is not regarded as a Muslim they would acknowledge as he didn't meet their strict Wahabi version of Islam. So the TTP have never made peace with Pakistan even when he was in power. You are talking bull basically.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Islamabad Blast Investigation: Two brothers of suicide bomber among six arrested

Two brothers of the suicide bomber and four other individuals have been taken into custody in connection with the Islamabad suicide blast, ARY News reported, citing government sources.

According to sources, the detainees were in close contact with the bomber and have been moved to an undisclosed location for further interrogation.

A special investigation team, which includes officers from the Counter-Terrorism Department (CTD), has been formed to track down and arrest the facilitators and abettors of this heinous crime.

Authorities are currently working to identify the attacker’s current and former hideouts.

Sources confirmed that a raid was conducted at the address listed on the attacker’s CNIC (Identity Card), leading to several arrests.

At least 31 worshippers were martyred and several others were injured in a suicide attack on a mosque in the Tarlai area located on the outskirts of Rawalpindi on Friday.

According to police sources, the suicide bomber attempted to enter the mosque but was stopped at the main gate.

The attacker then detonated his explosives, causing a powerful blast that resulted in multiple casualties. Police said the attacker was affiliated with Indian proxy Fitna-al-Khawarij (FAK).

Police sources confirmed that 31 innocent worshippers were martyred in the attack, while many others sustained injuries.

Rescue teams rushed to the scene and shifted the bodies and the injured to the Pakistan Institute of Medical Sciences (PIMS) and Polyclinic Hospital in Islamabad.

An emergency was imposed at the hospitals, where several injured remain in critical condition. Doctors have expressed concern that the death toll may rise.

Following the blast, police and security forces cordoned off the area and launched a search operation.

President Asif Ali Zardari and Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif have strongly condemned the blast and directed a complete inquiry into the matter. The prime minister has also directed Health Minister Mustafa Kamal to personally supervise the medical treatment of the injured at the hospitals.

Islamabad Blast Investigation: Two brothers of suicide bomber among six arrested

Two brothers of the suicide bomber and four other individuals have been taken into custody in connection with the Islamabad suicide blast

arynews.tv

 

[Markhor]

Some Pakistanis try to be politically correct and parrot the mantra of "both sides" are guilty of sectarianism. However the reality is sectarian violence in Pakistan for decades has disproportionately affected the Shia community.

When you zoom out and look at the Muslim world generally, there's no comparison. Far more have been killed as a result of Sunni extremism than Shia extremism.

I'm not a Shia, and care little for theological debates, but it's obvious their community has been let down time and again by the security forces. How can Pakistan claim to be a beacon for Muslims when it cannot protect its own Muslim citizens on its soil ?

 

[Major]

so no one is gonna bother to update the thread title?