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Australia [258/0] beat India [255] by 10 wickets in the first ODI, lead series 1-0

Winning and loosing is part of the game but what would be worrying for Indian management is the toothless bowling effort. The way Aus was going they would have chased 350 or even 400.

India is lacking an opening bowler with movement and with Bhuvi and Chahar both unavailable there arent much options. Still I think Saini can be brought in for Thakur, though he bowls straight but he has pace.

Current combination of India cant allow much more changes in bowling unless they want to go for Dube who is as mediocre with ball as it gets at international level to bring in Chahal.
 
Hyperion66 said:
A bad day at the office, as Harsha rightly said, a day to forget.
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I think, the game was robbed by Indian batsmen - at Wankhede, now days probably 350 isn't safe. And, this was D/N game in mid January - it's unfair for the team batting first; I believe in similar conditions few years back IND chased 360/1 inside 40 overs against Aussies!!!! ODI playing conditions need to be changed otherwise we'll get lots more one sided games going forward. Despite poor quality of cricket, I really enjoyed the WIN-IRL series, because the games were played in ~250 per conditions.
 
All the money, all the control, all the population...and this is the result?

I feel India has been and always will be a mediocre nation. Even when all factors are in their favour they can't win a trophy nor consistently perform against the other top teams in the world. If they lost even one of these advantages they'd be weaker than Bangladesh.
 
hitthestump said:
All the money, all the control, all the population...and this is the result?

I feel India has been and always will be a mediocre nation. Even when all factors are in their favour they can't win a trophy nor consistently perform against the other top teams in the world. If they lost even one of these advantages they'd be weaker than Bangladesh.
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Quite incredible that despite all those advantages, a cricket loving country, competes with the likes of NZ. Probably they lack natural talent...
Few decades ago it was all about infrastructure, but now...
 
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troodon said:
Our Tail and Middle Order still bad.

It is easy to score against Lanka and West Indies for guys like Shreyas Iyer, KL Rahul etc. But against an excellent bowling attack like Australia, they cannot score.

Rohit again blowing hot and cold. If Rohit/Dhawan/Kohli don't score big, its curtains down for India.
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Failing in one match isn't blowing hot cold. He has been one of the most consistent performers in the world for quite some time. Averages 60 against Australia, which is insane. KL actually was actually looking pretty decent before throwing it away. I agree with the rest of your post.
 
Hyperion66 said:
Failing in one match isn't blowing hot cold. He has been one of the most consistent performers in the world for quite some time. Averages 60 against Australia, which is insane. KL actually was actually looking pretty decent before throwing it away. I agree with the rest of your post.
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Yes, everything is probably fine...

Just imagine if India had beaten Australia in Australia like that, everyone would be saying how India is such a superior team etc.
Rohit is way too slow in the first PP for modern cricket. Rahul is way too slow full stop.
 
Hyperion66 said:
Yes everything is most definitely fine, odd phaintas like this are parts and parcel of the game, we don't carry a record breaking losing streak like a certain team. When we lose it makes news cuz it is rare.

Lol at the second best loi batsman of the world is too slow �� Go find someone else to troll kid.
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Yes he is correct Rohit takes time,even Dhavan played slow today, someone from one end needs to accelerate things up in the powerplay.
 
It was a poor performance but the dew makes a massive difference and it's quite obvious that its a major factor here . That said, India needs better players and our brand of ODI cricket is outdated now.
 
Warner after ban is playing selfishly, I mean he's not throwing his wicket away when going is tough, and put big prize on his wicket...
 
What a thrashing.

So much for India's much vaunted bowling line up.

Aus didn't even play Hazlewood or Cummins.

Lmao Richardson and Agar.
 
Aman said:
What a thrashing.

So much for India's much vaunted bowling line up.

Aus didn't even play Hazlewood or Cummins.

Lmao Richardson and Agar.
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Cummins did play today :facepalm: Hazelwood is more of a test bowler for them. He is better than Kane Richardson though.
 
Overall, this defeat is on par with the 245 runs defeat of 2000, or even exceeding it.
4 selections are wrong in my opinion - pant should be rested. Kl can keep.
Jadeja should not be in the ODI team at all, that SF NZ was good, but his bowling is not threatening at all, which is what he is required (pandya was required, heard he is not fit or so) could pad up with vijay shankar in India. Shardul why is he picked up repeatedly don't know. Shreyas iyer too. These two are total waste of spots. Gill + Mavi or someone from domestic could be given a chance.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...anka-final-coca-cola-champions-trophy-2000-01
 
Australia’s bowlers put on a clinical performance to bundle out India for 255, before David Warner and Aaron Finch blitzed unbeaten centuries to take their team to a 10-wicket win in the three-match series opener at the Wankhede Stadium in Mumbai.

Australia’s pace pack, comprising Mitchell Starc, Pat Cummins and Kane Richardson, made life hard for India with wickets at regular intervals, complemented efficiently by the spinners Ashton Agar and Adam Zampa. It allowed the visitors to claw back from a strong Indian start, as the hosts crumbled from 134/1 in the 28th over to 255 all-out on the first ball of the the 50th.

In reply, Australia were barely challenged, as India’s bowlers had a collective off day. Even Jasprit Bumrah, the top-ranked bowler in MRF Tyres ICC ODI Rankings, was off track with his lines and lengths, as Finch and Warner razed to a 258-run unbroken stand for the first wicket. It was a record stand against India, bettering George Bailey and Steve Smith’s 242-run stand for the third wicket in Perth in 2016. Warner also became the fastest Australian to 5000 ODI runs during his unbeaten 128, getting to the landmark in his 115th innings. Only Hashim Amla (101 innings), and Virat Kohli and Viv Richards (114 each) have gotten there sooner. Finch, who was the more sedate of the two, finished not out on 110.

Warner didn’t begin in the same mood that he finished in, however. Taking his time to settle in, he made just six runs off the first 15 balls he faced. By then, he had also successfully availed a review, after being given out caught behind to a shortish ball that was heading down the leg side.

By the time Warner had struck his first boundary, off Bumrah, which took him into double figures, Finch had already moved to 27. But thereafter, Warner took over the scoring, so much that he beat his captain to the half-century mark, raising it off his 40th ball.

Shardul Thakur, the same bowler against whom Warner had been adjudged caught behind, was the first to bear the brunt, getting dispatched for two fours and a six in the eighth over. With Finch keeping his stream of boundaries steady as well, Australia zoomed away to 84/0 in the first Powerplay.

Finch got to his fifty one over after Warner did, but Warner continued to progress imperiously. He availed a second review successfully, when he was trapped in front of the stumps, attempting to paddle Ravindra Jadeja but procured an inside edge. A four off successive overs, off Kuldeep Yadav and Bumrah, thereafter, gave him his 18th hundred, which he celebrated in trademark Warner fashion, leaping into the air and soaking in the applause of an appreciative Mumbai crowd.

Finch moved into the 90s with a six off Kuldeep, and three overs later, moved into three figures with a sweep fine on the leg side off Jadeja. Having already moved within touching distance of the target by then, the two saw their team through with 74 balls to spare.

India had similarly started strongly, despite the loss of Rohit Sharma for 10, with Shikhar Dhawan and KL Rahul buckling down for a 121-run second-wicket stand. The presence of all three top-order batsmen meant that Kohli pushed himself down to No.4, only the second time he has batted from that position in ODI cricket since October 2015.

That happened when Rahul chipped a fuller ball from Agar straight into the hands of Steve Smith at cover. Dhawan followed suit next over, closing the face to a slower ball from Cummins to give a leading edge to Agar at mid-off.

With two set batsmen gone, the onus was on Kohli and Shreyas Iyer to rebuild for India. The Indian captain dispatched the first ball of the 32nd over, a short one from Adam Zampa, over deep backward square leg, but drilled the ball straight into the hands of the bowler, who took a brilliant reflex catch in front of his face, when he pitched it up to the batsman next ball. It was the fourth time Zampa had dismissed Kohli in ODIs, an Australian record the leg-spinner now shares with Jhye Richardson.

Rishabh Pant and Ravindra Jadeja briefly gave India hope with handy cameos of 28 and 25 respectively, but Australia kept the pressure on by picking up wickets regularly. Pant was dismissed off a short ball from Cummins that struck the helmet after taking the top edge, before lobbing towards point. Not only did it cost Pant his wicket, it also gave him a concussion that kept him out of the chase as Rahul donned the gloves.

Starc was Australia’s most successful bowler, with 3-56. Cummins and Richardson took two each and both maintained impeccable economy rates, while Zampa and Agar picked up two wickets for 109 runs between them.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1571793
 
Saj said:
A bad day at the office?

I'd say they didn't even turn up at the office.
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Every great team in the past had their fair share of epic phaintas, sometimes even the best in the business gets schooled, no biggie.
 
Hyperion66 said:
Every great team in the past had their fair share of epic phaintas, sometimes even the best in the business gets schooled, no biggie.
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Lol great team, this Indian odi team does not justify that tag, they've hardly won anything of note in the limited overs bar the world cup in the last decade
 
Manunited18 said:
Lol great team, this Indian odi team does not justify that tag, they've hardly won anything of note in the limited overs bar the world cup in the last decade
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Champions trophy and Asia Cups.. what else can we win in LOI?
 
Manunited18 said:
Lol great team, this Indian odi team does not justify that tag, they've hardly won anything of note in the limited overs bar the world cup in the last decade
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Best ODI team of the decade, only team to have won both the WC and a Champions trophy last decade, we are not some bottom dwelling team that flukes a tournament and then goes on a record breaking losing spree to balance it out.
 
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hitthestump said:
All the money, all the control, all the population...and this is the result?

I feel India has been and always will be a mediocre nation. Even when all factors are in their favour they can't win a trophy nor consistently perform against the other top teams in the world. If they lost even one of these advantages they'd be weaker than Bangladesh.
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they are world number 1 in tests lol.
It's a stupid jamodi game. I would rather lose now than lose in the world cup.
how have the not performed consistently? they reached semi finals or finals multiple times. Just choked like south africa in those final stages.

india would still be a good team infact a better team with less population. India have limited resources for such a large population. There will be less corruption when it comes to selection criteria with a small population.
 
Wow!

This scoreline is hard to believe considering India were playing Shami and Bumrah (that too at home).

Aussies can now genuinely win the series.
 
Aaron Finch has gone from under-the-pump to one half of the world's best opening partnership in one-day cricket in the space of a year.

Finch's unbeaten 110 in Tuesday night's 10-wicket flogging of India marked his fifth century in 10 months at the top of the Australian order.

Crucially though, it was his 248-run stand with David Warner that was just as impressive, as it broke the record for the highest unbeaten Australian partnership in history.

The backbone of Australia's World Cup assault last year, Warner and Finch have now scored 924 runs batting together since Warner's return from his ban.

The pair's average of 92.40 together is also the best of any opening combination over the past year, eclipsing Indian rivals KL Rahul and Rohit Sharma.

It's a far cry from Finch's position early last year, where he was out of form and questions were even asked of if he would be squeezed out of the top order had he not been captain.

"We know each other's games so well and personalities that now we can have honest conversations out there," Warner said.

"It's just great to go out there and play the way that we do, when he's going I know what my role is.

"And when I'm going he knows what his role is and we communicate that straightaway and I think that's the best thing about our partnership,

"It works very well. It's great and I absolutely love it and he loves it and hopefully we can keep looking forward to that next World Cup (in 2023)."

Finch's knock against India in Tuesday night's win was as good as any of his career and is an ominous sign for the hosts ahead of Friday's second game in Rajkot.

He looked on from ball one and played with complete freedom through the offside as punished anything that offered enough width.

It even prompted Warner to claim it was the best he had ever seen his long-time partner bat.

"The most pleasing thing for me up the other end was seeing Finchy transfer his weight into the ball very well," Warner said.

"He talks about not doing that as consistent, but that was probably the best that I've ever seen him bat."

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/aar...-one-day-international-runs-mumbai/2020-01-15
 
Great wim for Australia.

Would like to see India go back to selecting Kuldeep and Chahal in the same team. It was working and after the England WC defeat they seem reluctant to try it.
 
Chaaron taraf se bura waqt chal raha hai aj kal India ka..... Long may it continue inshallah :yk
 
Even on paper, India looks overrated. They rely so heavily on their top four and, even when two of them did perform today, they still managed only 250 on a 350 pitch. Take Kohli out of the side and they are basically a 6th or 7th ranked team.
 
shane said:
Even on paper, India looks overrated. They rely so heavily on their top four and, even when two of them did perform today, they still managed only 250 on a 350 pitch. Take Kohli out of the side and they are basically a 6th or 7th ranked team.
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Nope Rohit is more impactful than Kohli in ODIs.
 
A shocking loss especially for a team that has competed hard with Australia in recent years. Goes to show that player development , selections, captaincy etc. had all gone wrong for one reason or another. This was a loss more befitting some neighbours of ours who have been pummeled by Australia for the last 20 years :Misbah Hope we don't go along the same path
 
Nikhil_cric said:
A shocking loss especially for a team that has competed hard with Australia in recent years. Goes to show that player development , selections, captaincy etc. had all gone wrong for one reason or another. This was a loss more befitting some neighbours of ours who have been pummeled by Australia for the last 20 years :Misbah Hope we don't go along the same path
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Must be talking about Team India as they haven't won much against Australia in last 20 years :)
 
shane said:
Even on paper, India looks overrated. They rely so heavily on their top four and, even when two of them did perform today, they still managed only 250 on a 350 pitch. Take Kohli out of the side and they are basically a 6th or 7th ranked team.
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take cummins out and australia is a Joke team in odi as well.

take babar out and pakistam would be near bottom.

take boult out and n.z would be near relegation zone. 8th.

take rabada our and south africa will be bottom 2 as well. 7th.

take archer out and England is a Joke odi team.
 
You can’t win against a quality side when your three best players fail. India is still the #2 ODI team in the world (after England) and should fight back to win this series.

People who seek joy in India’s rare failures and take lame shots at the so-called lack of talent in India etc. should have some perspective.

There is no shortage of talent in India. The proof lies in the fact that they have consistently been one of the elite sides for over 15 years now.

Australia is also a very good side and you have to be at your best to beat them. However, If both teams fire on all cylinders, India should win more matches.
 
Mamoon said:
Australia is also a very good side and you have to be at your best to beat them. However, If both teams fire on all cylinders, India should win more matches.
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Reality says no.

Last 2 years against australia, India have won 5 lost 5
Last 3 years against australia, india have won 10 lost 12

In India won 6 lost 5
In Australia won 3 lost 7
 
We are working on getting a right playing XI. So, considering that there will be failures, no surprises really. Once Iyer and Pant gets experience, we will have an unbeatable lineup.

Hitman
Shaw
Legend
Gill
Iyer- spin bully
Pant(wkt)- unreliable bully
Hardik Sobers
Kul
Shami Kapoor
Cha
Booom- rrrr- ah
 
tyron_woodley said:
take cummins out and australia is a Joke team in odi as well.

take babar out and pakistam would be near bottom.

take boult out and n.z would be near relegation zone. 8th.

take rabada our and south africa will be bottom 2 as well. 7th.

take archer out and England is a Joke odi team.
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Jhye richardson is as good if not better than cummins in odis.

Boult is nz's main bowler, but they could still win matches without him.

Lungi ngidi is a better bowler than rabada in limited overs.

And archer was not even the 3rd best bowler for England in terms of impact on the game.

Woakes, Plunkett and mark wood were much better and the real impact bowlers for England
 
sindhiboy said:
Jhye richardson is as good if not better than cummins in odis.

Boult is nz's main bowler, but they could still win matches without him.

Lungi ngidi is a better bowler than rabada in limited overs.

And archer was not even the 3rd best bowler for England in terms of impact on the game.

Woakes, Plunkett and mark wood were much better and the real impact bowlers for England
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Archer also took most of his wickets against weak teams
 
Kriketer said:
Must be talking about Team India as they haven't won much against Australia in last 20 years :)
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I was talking about ODIs and Pakistan. For instance, India won 5 ODIs against OZ last year. That's 2 more wins than Pakistan managed in the last 10 years :)
 
Gilly said:
Cummins Ave 27 econ 5.13 s/r 31

replacement
Hazelwood ave 25 eco 4.7 s/r 31.8

No joke.
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cummins is more dangerous. he has improved a lot. hazelwood isn't anything special. cummins is their best bowler by far. Without him australia won't be difficult to beat.
 
Gilly said:
Reality says no.

Last 2 years against australia, India have won 5 lost 5
Last 3 years against australia, india have won 10 lost 12

In India won 6 lost 5
In Australia won 3 lost 7
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india won the most Important game in the world cup but yea I agree. India and australia are more or less equal.

jamodi series doesn't mean squat.
 
tyron_woodley said:
cummins is more dangerous. he has improved a lot. hazelwood isn't anything special. cummins is their best bowler by far. Without him australia won't be difficult to beat.
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Hazlewood isn't anything special? I think you talk nonsense to try and make an impact. But it makes you seem clueless.

Please tell me one ODI team Hazlewood doesn't WALK into on the last decade...

Better check his career stats against the current best few ODI quicks too, before you embarrass yourself again.
 
Ab Fan said:
We are working on getting a right playing XI. So, considering that there will be failures, no surprises really. Once Iyer and Pant gets experience, we will have an unbeatable lineup.

Hitman
Shaw
Legend
Gill
Iyer- spin bully
Pant(wkt)- unreliable bully
Hardik Sobers
Kul
Shami Kapoor
Cha
Booom- rrrr- ah
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The rest of us can only try to win a few games while we can, before this unstoppable team ends all of cricket forever.
 
wrongun said:
Hazlewood isn't anything special? I think you talk nonsense to try and make an impact. But it makes you seem clueless.

Please tell me one ODI team Hazlewood doesn't WALK into on the last decade...

Better check his career stats against the current best few ODI quicks too, before you embarrass yourself again.
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He always rants without knowing stats,and when we bring stats he always make excuses.
 
Anything under 350 was easy to chase but bowlers did not do much better. Overall, a very poor performance from India.

Warner seems to have gained his form back. Without a doubt, he's the most dangerous batsmen in the world across all formats.
 
And India is dreaming of beating us in Australia next year? LOL

India is not a sporting nation, never has been and never will be.

They have 3 good players, but Australia alway plays as a team and this time we are playing for all the bushfire victims.

If you look at medals won on the global stage Australia is at the top or near the top and we have a small population, but we always compete at every sport we can, we have that fightinng spirit.
 
wrongun said:
Hazlewood isn't anything special? I think you talk nonsense to try and make an impact. But it makes you seem clueless.

Please tell me one ODI team Hazlewood doesn't WALK into on the last decade...

Better check his career stats against the current best few ODI quicks too, before you embarrass yourself again.
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hazelwood never impressed me in odi. he is a home bully at best. neither is he good in tests either. overrated player. Outside SENA he is pretty average.

cummins is the real deal.
 
The_Odd_One said:
Anything under 350 was easy to chase but bowlers did not do much better. Overall, a very poor performance from India.

Warner seems to have gained his form back. Without a doubt, he's the most dangerous batsmen in the world across all formats.
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That would be virat
 
Ab Fan said:
We are working on getting a right playing XI. So, considering that there will be failures, no surprises really. Once Iyer and Pant gets experience, we will have an unbeatable lineup.

Hitman
Shaw
Legend
Gill
Iyer- spin bully
Pant(wkt)- unreliable bully
Hardik Sobers
Kul
Shami Kapoor
Cha
Booom- rrrr- ah
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Very beatable xi LoL
 
OffDrive said:
And India is dreaming of beating us in Australia next year? LOL

India is not a sporting nation, never has been and never will be.

They have 3 good players, but Australia alway plays as a team and this time we are playing for all the bushfire victims.

If you look at medals won on the global stage Australia is at the top or near the top and we have a small population, but we always compete at every sport we can, we have that fightinng spirit.
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yes. australia with the help of the mighty sandpaper and other immoral ways are capable of being the best in the world. no doubt.
 
tyron_woodley said:
stats means **** all. philander averages 22 in tests. he is better than wasim akram and waqar.
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We see overall stats in which country bowlers bowled well and then we judge.
Not just by looking bowlers average.
If that's criteria then George Lohmann is the greatest bowler of all time.
 
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andy0204 said:
We see overall stats in which country bowlers bowled well and then we judge.
Not just by looking bowlers average.
If that's criteria then George Lohmann is the greatest bowler of all time.
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yes that's why I said hazelwood is overrated. he really isn't good outside SENA Especially in tests.
 
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