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Australia have produced the most potent fast bowlers in the 21st century

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Without a doubt. There are unnecessary cliches relating to West Indies and Pakistan about producing fast bowlers, but nothing beats Australia ever since cricket became a more globalised sport around the 2005 mark (post Ashes 2005). With McGrath, the greatest fast bowler of all time retiring in 2007, a list of serious fast bowlers that have represented the baggy green!

1. Mitchell Johnson
2. Peter Siddle
3. Doug Bollinger
4. Josh Hazlewood
5. Mitchell Starc
6. James Pattinson
7. Ben Hilfenhaus
8. Ryan Harris
9. Pattrick Cummins
10. Stuart Clarke

I believe all of them were 140+ in speed and all average below 30 in Test (I could be slightly wrong). All of them have played over 20 Tests and have a considerable amount of wickets.

Now they have launched Scott Boland and Jhye Richardson who both look like proper bowlers too! There is absolutely no doubt Australia is the true land of fast bowlers who know how to bowl in the 21st century!
 
Without a doubt. There are unnecessary cliches relating to West Indies and Pakistan about producing fast bowlers, but nothing beats Australia ever since cricket became a more globalised sport around the 2005 mark (post Ashes 2005). With McGrath, the greatest fast bowler of all time retiring in 2007, a list of serious fast bowlers that have represented the baggy green!

1. Mitchell Johnson
2. Peter Siddle
3. Doug Bollinger
4. Josh Hazlewood
5. Mitchell Starc
6. James Pattinson
7. Ben Hilfenhaus
8. Ryan Harris
9. Pattrick Cummins
10. Stuart Clarke

I believe all of them were 140+ in speed and all average below 30 in Test (I could be slightly wrong). All of them have played over 20 Tests and have a considerable amount of wickets.

Now they have launched Scott Boland and Jhye Richardson who both look like proper bowlers too! There is absolutely no doubt Australia is the true land of fast bowlers who know how to bowl in the 21st century!

James Pattinson is very unlucky cricketer.
He was waiting for his chance to return but Australian pace trio was fully fit and hard to replace.
Impatient Pattinson took retirement from the game.
After his retirement, Hazlewood injured himself and Cummins was out due to covid related issues.
Neser and Boland made their debuts and Richardson made successful comeback.
Poor guy Pattinson.
 
We hear it often about Pakistan, but Australia are the true land of fast bowlers.

They've got an impressive amount of depth so even if one of Cummins, Hazlewood or Starc go down, there's always someone to step up. And they are relentless.
 
IMO, South Africa has produced the best bowlers since the turn of the millennium.
Although it's close.

1. Dale Steyn - GOAT
2. Kagiso Rabada
3. Vernon Philander
4. Morne Morkel
5. Kyle Abbott
6. Duanne Olivier
7. L Ngidi
8. Andre Nel
9. Charl Langveldt

Even if we consider Patrick Cummins on the same level as Steyn then also there's no other Aussie who is as good as Rabada.
 
If we start from 1970 then

South Africa has produced

Donald
Steyn
Pollock
Rabada
Procter

All of them are ATG or potential ATGs

If we do the same for Aus

Lillee
Mcgrath
Cummins
?

South Africa is definitely the land of fast bowlers.
 
IMO, South Africa has produced the best bowlers since the turn of the millennium.
Although it's close.

1. Dale Steyn - GOAT
2. Kagiso Rabada
3. Vernon Philander
4. Morne Morkel
5. Kyle Abbott
6. Duanne Olivier
7. L Ngidi
8. Andre Nel
9. Charl Langveldt

Even if we consider Patrick Cummins on the same level as Steyn then also there's no other Aussie who is as good as Rabada.
Can include Nortje too.
 
If we start from 1970 then

South Africa has produced

Donald
Steyn
Pollock
Rabada
Procter

All of them are ATG or potential ATGs

If we do the same for Aus

Lillee
Mcgrath
Cummins
?

South Africa is definitely the land of fast bowlers.

Rabada is overrated in my opinion. He is proper definition home track bully.
You should add Josh Hazlewood in Australia's list.
 
They've also produced some excellent spinners since I've been watching Warne, macgill, Lyon

The older ones were tiger o reilly , grimmett, benaud, trumble and mallett well before My time watching
 
With the fast bowling its the competitive wickets Australia produces they also don't pick bowlers under 5.10ft even their new quick Richardson is 5.10ft.

It's a coaching culture based on reality that if you are of short stature you won't be a fast bowler its discouraged in their youth setups.
 
Without a doubt. There are unnecessary cliches relating to West Indies and Pakistan about producing fast bowlers, but nothing beats Australia ever since cricket became a more globalised sport around the 2005 mark (post Ashes 2005). With McGrath, the greatest fast bowler of all time retiring in 2007, a list of serious fast bowlers that have represented the baggy green!

1. Mitchell Johnson
2. Peter Siddle
3. Doug Bollinger
4. Josh Hazlewood
5. Mitchell Starc
6. James Pattinson
7. Ben Hilfenhaus
8. Ryan Harris
9. Pattrick Cummins
10. Stuart Clarke

I believe all of them were 140+ in speed and all average below 30 in Test (I could be slightly wrong). All of them have played over 20 Tests and have a considerable amount of wickets.

Now they have launched Scott Boland and Jhye Richardson who both look like proper bowlers too! There is absolutely no doubt Australia is the true land of fast bowlers who know how to bowl in the 21st century!

Lol stuart clark and hilfenhaus are no way 140kph bowlers

With clark more like 120kph
 
if not for injuries pattinson would easily be a 300 wickets+ guy
but yes, fair point - the last 10-15 years Aus have easily ruled, in the pace dept and have the most potent quicks.
 
Op I think has missed Gillespie out

Another one who was on the peripherals and operated jn the mid 130s was Jackson bird another tall well built bowler who could swing and hit the deck hard
 
1. Aussies have produced the best fast bowlers this century overall.
2. A larger number of the names listed are fairly ordinary - they qualify purely because of the poor standards of fast bowling this century.
3. Most of these bowlers (apart from Starc, Cummins, Hazelwood) would not be considered good in 80s and 90s.
 
Siddle was/is one of my personal favourites. Always felt he was a bit underrated.
 
The majority of fast bowlers in recent times post Shoaibs retirement have been Aussies.

Lee, Tait, Starc, Cummins.
 
Ofcourse they are likely to produce more fast bowlers given the nature of the surfaces. West Indian pitches have become spinners friendly.
 
Another one was Andy bichel who simply couldn't get In the team.because mcgrath , Gillespie and Brett Lee were ahead in pecking order his intl career never kicked due to limited opportunities.

There was also another fast bowler around same time micheal kasprowicz

Just shows how strong the Australian team was then even their bench strength had some really solid cricketers .
 
Another one was Andy bichel who simply couldn't get In the team.because mcgrath , Gillespie and Brett Lee were ahead in pecking order his intl career never kicked due to limited opportunities.

There was also another fast bowler around same time micheal kasprowicz

Just shows how strong the Australian team was then even their bench strength had some really solid cricketers .

The purpose of the thread was to highlight the battery of fast bowlers to emerge for Australia after McGrath retired so that’s why I omitted names such as Bichel, Lee, Kasprowikz and Gillespie because they all emerged in the late 90s and not the 21st century.

But all of them were great bowlers without a doubt.
 
Australian surfaces are more conducive to pace. Despite this, I believe Pakistani bowlers will outperform Aussies this decade.

Pakistan is still THE land of pacers because our bowlers have natural free flowing actions .
 
Australian surfaces are more conducive to pace. Despite this, I believe Pakistani bowlers will outperform Aussies this decade.

Pakistan is still THE land of pacers because our bowlers have natural free flowing actions .

And no fitness levels to sustain more than a couple of years, before injury destroys careers.
 
IMO, South Africa has produced the best bowlers since the turn of the millennium.
Although it's close.

1. Dale Steyn - GOAT
2. Kagiso Rabada
3. Vernon Philander
4. Morne Morkel
5. Kyle Abbott
6. Duanne Olivier
7. L Ngidi
8. Andre Nel
9. Charl Langveldt

Even if we consider Patrick Cummins on the same level as Steyn then also there's no other Aussie who is as good as Rabada.

What about Nortje?
 
Hilfenhaus for me was always a rubbish bowler who got lucky because he played most of his tests in Australia. Wasn't particularly impressed by Bollinger either although he was better.

But the rest were/are definitely potent fast-bowlers.

Personally, I think South Africa has produced more potent fast-bowlers whose careers have also had greater longevity.

Of the names mentioned by you, besides Starc, Cummins, Hazelwood; only Johnson and Siddle have had any careers of note. Ryan Harris had a good second run but he too was rubbish when he debuted initially and at the end also finished with just 27 test caps.

Compare this with what South Africa has produced since 2005: Philander, Morkel, Rabada, Olivier, Ngidi, Nortje, Abbott and Dale Steyn: the greatest fast-bowler of the modern era.

On top of that they got Marco Jansen and Sipamla waiting in the wings.
 
And no fitness levels to sustain more than a couple of years, before injury destroys careers.

Are you talking about Pakistani fast-bowlers or Australian fast-bowlers? Because this is true for Australian fast-bowlers aswell.

Ryan Harris, Ben Hilfenhaus, James Pattinson all had their careers ended due to injuries. Bollinger regularly struggled with injuries throughout his career.

There's a reason why only 3 of the 12 fast-bowlers named by OP have played more than 50 tests.
 
Hilfenhaus for me was always a rubbish bowler who got lucky because he played most of his tests in Australia. Wasn't particularly impressed by Bollinger either although he was better.

But the rest were/are definitely potent fast-bowlers.

Personally, I think South Africa has produced more potent fast-bowlers whose careers have also had greater longevity.

Of the names mentioned by you, besides Starc, Cummins, Hazelwood; only Johnson and Siddle have had any careers of note. Ryan Harris had a good second run but he too was rubbish when he debuted initially and at the end also finished with just 27 test caps.

Compare this with what South Africa has produced since 2005: Philander, Morkel, Rabada, Olivier, Ngidi, Nortje, Abbott and Dale Steyn: the greatest fast-bowler of the modern era.

On top of that they got Marco Jansen and Sipamla waiting in the wings.

Darren Dupavillion is also in the wings. There's also Lifa Ntanzi, Gerald Coetzee and Migael Pretorius. There are a few players at domestic level that could make the step up. If only we had batters
 
Aussies have had many greats. Overall I still regard the 1970's/1980's West Indies attack as they best ever seen.
 
Darren Dupavillion is also in the wings. There's also Lifa Ntanzi, Gerald Coetzee and Migael Pretorius. There are a few players at domestic level that could make the step up. If only we had batters

Of the names you mentioned, Dupavillion is the only one I have heard of that I forgot to mention. I believe he was selected for the tour of Pakistan. But I'm sure the others are highly talented too.

As far as batsmen go, I have to say I was disappointed that Theunis de Bruyne wasn't able to make it in test cricket. Because I had high expectations from him and really thought that he would be lynchpin of South Africa's batting by now. He seemed like he had turned a corner after that sublime century in Sri Lanka but sadly it wasn't to be.

That said I wouldn't be too disappointed. Zubayr Hamza has a huge upside to him. As does Janneman Malan, who can be a great all-format player going forward. There's Kyle Verreynne too whose FC record says all that needs to be said about him getting consistent chances. And the best thing is that all these guys are fairly young.

If push comes to shove, South Africa could always turn to Sarel Erwee or Pieter Malan as short-term options. In which case they could consider dropping Markram down to give the middle order some substance.
 
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