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Rank turns will bite India back as the current old batsmen have lost their prowess against spin. They are not the same anymore. It is a retirement house. Kohlil, Rohit, Ashwin, Pujara. Rahul is also 30 plus. Jaddu 30 plus.
if you've only said some of them have regressed against spin it may have been ok but what has age got to do with their prowess against spin?
Some lose reflex, you don't pick the length very well like you used to. Kohli has been repeatedly getting out to spinners because of that. Think about Dhoni, Sachin. Towards the end of their career they had struggle picking the spinners.
Kohli has always been mediocre against spin, even at his peak. SA 2015, Aus 2017 are some of the high profile failures in tests.
It got much worse now. He did play sweep in Australia when he was in prime. He was connecting them well as well. Nowadays he is just groping at the ball.
Indians except SKY are more paddle sweepers. They don’t play slog sweep vs spin.
Even Sachin,Rohit, Kohli etc used prefer the paddle over the slog sweep.
Check his highlights in Australia. He plays proper sweep shots. Sure Moeen Ali had wood over him occasionally. Nowadays it has become alarmingly worse. Sannter, Shakib, Taijul, Mehidy, domestic Indian spinners. Especially on surfaces where there is a bit of turn. On the same surface even guys like Ashwin plays better.
As we inch close to the highly-anticipated Border-Gavaskar Trophy, which is scheduled to start from February 9, shots have already being fired from the touring party. Former Australia wicketkeeper Ian Healy was the latest member to take potshot at India, as he justified Australia's choice of not playing a single tour match in the sub-continent ahead of the blockbuster series.
His comments came after Usman Khawaja's sensational comment, where he claimed that it was pointless to play a warm-up match as the wickets differ completely when the action shifts to the main fixture.
"Have you ever been pre-tour with us (Australia)? They can be spinning wickets when we play but we go to the practice matches and they are green Gabba-like wickets out there (in India), so what's the point," Khawaja had said during a press conference earlier this month.
Healy agreed with Khawaja's statement and during an interaction on SEN Radio, the former wicketkeeper noted: "We've gathered our spinners in Sydney for strategic talks (on replica India surfaces)… we no longer trust that the requested facilities will be provided for a nation."
"We've been part of this shenanigan too by the way… when we're over (in England) we spend our time whinging about weakened County teams that England put up as our opposition before the series."
Commenting further on the subject, Healy said that he is not very fond of two different sets of wickets being prepared for tour and actual matches. "Our focus in cricket has shifted from creating opportunities and experiences for our best up and coming cricketers… now we deny touring teams quality preparation before very highly anticipated series and I don't like it.
"It's disappointing to watch such dismantling of trust between cricket's nations and it needs to stop," added Healy.
Australia have not won a single Test series in India since 2004-05 and will hope for a change in fortune this time around. "Touring teams seem to all struggle these days and here we go again, we're going to India without a whole lot of Indian practice under our belts, let alone England later in the year where we haven't won since 2001,” Healy added.
Healy, however, suggested that a practice match midway during the series is a nice idea to give their seven reserve players some match practice.
"In India they're (Australia) hoping everything will click and the squad freshens up with net practice… our coaching staff are content with this and I'll trust them for now. I would, however, like to see a tour match between the second and third Test in India… I'd love to see a three-day game so that our seven reserves (in the 18-man squad) we've got over there can have a good hit out," Healy added.
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Some lose reflex, you don't pick the length very well like you used to. Kohli has been repeatedly getting out to spinners because of that. Think about Dhoni, Sachin. Towards the end of their career they had struggle picking the spinners.
We have next to no LH Top order batsmen now that Rishabh is not available.
I'd take a punt and put Washi Sundar in opening with Rohit. Dude has the defense technique, has the shot making ability, is a fab fielder and can give you 10-15 solid overs. After alll, once hitman calls it a day, Washi Sundar and Gill would make a good opening combo - u never know till you try.
I'd also go as far as selecting Ishan to keep wkts, maybe he could morph in to a rishabh of the test match kind.
Else its only Sir Jads as the LH batsman...can't consider Kulli yadav in this category.
I would honestly pick Washy at 5 over KL. It may even allow for third pacer if conditions dictate it.
Washy is a bizzare case for me. When no expectation from him as a batsman, he plays some fantastic innings. And just when you think he is ready to play as a batsman, he plays like a tailender. In short, not reliable.
Washy is a bizzare case for me. When no expectation from him as a batsman, he plays some fantastic innings. And just when you think he is ready to play as a batsman, he plays like a tailender. In short, not reliable.
I frankly cant recall when he played like a tailender, can you give instances? I think every time he got a gig, he shone -eg- the Gabba test, the ahmd test against eng 2021. Still feel he has potential to open for us, gives the LH option , a fab fielder and can bowl as well
All internationals included. Not specifically in tests.
Any one can update whats the deal with Wriddhi Saha? or has he retired?
11 for Nagpur
Rohit
Gill
Pujara
Former Kaptaan
KL Rahul (Iyer injured)
Jadeja
Bharat
Ashwin
Kuldeep
Shami
Siraj
Iyer should have played but for injury. Aussie have plenty of lefties do Kuldeep ahead of third pacer or Axar. Writing down KL name in that eleven has saddened me beyond belief. I would not let him near ground if possible.
Axar comes in ahead of jadeja . Axar bowling form is tremendous .
Kuldeep vs jadeja is tossup . They will take jadeja the batsman over kuldeep the bowler . Jadeja bowling is bonus
Last 5 years , jadeja along with pant is most consistent indian batsman .
Border Gavaskar Trophy History
Series: 15
India: 9
Australia: 5
Drawn: 1 (2003/04 in Australia)
Away wins:
India: 2
Australia: 1
Home wins:
India: 7
Australia: 4
since that 2001 famous Kolkata testAmazing. Surely the greatest cricket rivalry of all time after Ashes?
I think Aus have their best chance of winning a series in Ind. India's batting is weak.
Having said that, Ashwin/Jadeja/Yadav will be a deadly trio. With Patel also available.
Warner, Khawaja, Head, Carey are going to have a very tough time against Ashwin. His seems love bowling to left handers. Not sure how much Labuschagne has played in India, I am assuming none to very little. Which puts him in the unproven category. That just leaves Smith, who will succeed. Others will have to do their best to at least support him.
I think Ind have a slight upper hand. Should be a good series.
Border Gavaskar Trophy leading run scorer Indian batters :-
Tendulkar 3262 AVG 56
Laxman 2434 AVG 49
Dravid 2143 AVG 39
Pujara 1893 AVG 54
Sehwag 1738 AVG 41
Kohli 1682 AVG 48
Border Gavaskar Trophy leading run scorer Indian batters :-
Tendulkar 3262 AVG 56
Laxman 2434 AVG 49
Dravid 2143 AVG 39
Pujara 1893 AVG 54
Sehwag 1738 AVG 41
Kohli 1682 AVG 48
Great stats for Sachin. Considering he played mostly against the Aussies which was the greatest team ever in the history of game. Truly GOAT batsman.
Yes..he was standout player in many series for India when opponents were Australia.
1991/92 away
1997/98 home
1999/00 away
2007/08 away
2010/11 home
That's 5 series. Apart from that, 2001 home and 2003/04 away were Laxman-Dravid series.
Awesome VVS, considering he mostly batted at #6.
In 2001, he scored a century in the decider, underrated innings. In 03/04, scored a double in the decider as well.
IND needs 3-1 or better to directly secure WTC finals berth without reliance on other teams.
IND needs 2-0 or better to secure No.1 rank in ICC test rankings.
2 Test wins should be enough for India to quality for WTC Final (need one now after thrashing Aus in the first test)
Need 3 wins only if SL whitewash NZ 2-0- the chances of that happening is almost zero.
Except for the footmarks creation, i think Starc brings nothing more than Boland. The runs he could score would be balanced by the runs he concedes.
Aussies should give Lance Morris a go. Express pace and reverse swing will work in Delhi.
For all those attacking me for making a comment that has been proven 110% correct, stay shush or at least accept you were wrong in going after me...list is getting rather long now:
Starc, Hazelwood, Green (all three missing so far), Warner (playing almost as if he doesn't even wanna play), rest of the top order mostly playing as if they have never played with a cricket ball. These are far from the Aussies we have seen all our lives, no matter what the conditions.
Yes, India probably played exceptionally well, pitches bamboozled Aussies who were not expecting pin point pitch 'grafting' from spot to spot, crowd played some role too...but the way Aussies have played, it is as if IPL contracts had a section about giving up even before the match actually started!
We shush everyone with IPL except when we tour them, damn those Proteas not letting us even draw a series there since 2010 and we have been letting them get hefty IPL contracts.
For all those attacking me for making a comment that has been proven 110% correct, stay shush or at least accept you were wrong in going after me...list is getting rather long now:
Starc, Hazelwood, Green (all three missing so far), Warner (playing almost as if he doesn't even wanna play), rest of the top order mostly playing as if they have never played with a cricket ball. These are far from the Aussies we have seen all our lives, no matter what the conditions.
Yes, India probably played exceptionally well, pitches bamboozled Aussies who were not expecting pin point pitch 'grafting' from spot to spot, crowd played some role too...but the way Aussies have played, it is as if IPL contracts had a section about giving up even before the match actually started!
I want all the ICC trophies that are owed to us for all that ipl money.
I count 2 odi wc 2015 and 2019 and 6 T20 wcs.
And kiwis keep defeating us in worldcups still we keep giving them big ipl contracts. This stops now.
If we win this series 4-0, then we have already beaten OZ as many times as Pakistan have beaten OZ in 27 years of Test cricket.
Border Gavaskar Trophy History
Series: 15
India: 9
Australia: 5
Drawn: 1 (2003/04 in Australia)
Away wins:
India: 2
Australia: 1
Home wins:
India: 7
Australia: 4
Australian experts have criticized the attitude of Cricket Australia, the players ie they should have properly been preparing for the Indian series for like months in advance because ultimately nothing beats preperation and hard work. The key players and batters should have skipped the big Bash but Cricket Australia was desperate to have the top Australian players play in that tournament to revive its fortunes and to prevent the players going to SA T20 League and the Emirates League.
Even the 2004 Australian powerful side which won 2-1 in India spent months preparing for the Indian series where they practiced non stop on spinning tracks, batsmen planned on how they would construct their innings, working on their defensive techniques, making plans for the bowlers they would be facing.
Similarly the Australian bowlers made game plans on how they would bowl on the Indian wickets, the field placings they would employ to get wickets and to restrict the scoring rates.
Don't think this present Australian team has the same professionalism or commitment. A lot of these Australian players have toured India many times now and have plenty of IPL experience as well.
No excuse for such a below par performance but then again India is just a gun team now at home.
For all those attacking me for making a comment that has been proven 110% correct, stay shush or at least accept you were wrong in going after me...list is getting rather long now:
Starc, Hazelwood, Green (all three missing so far), Warner (playing almost as if he doesn't even wanna play), rest of the top order mostly playing as if they have never played with a cricket ball. These are far from the Aussies we have seen all our lives, no matter what the conditions.
Yes, India probably played exceptionally well, pitches bamboozled Aussies who were not expecting pin point pitch 'grafting' from spot to spot, crowd played some role too...but the way Aussies have played, it is as if IPL contracts had a section about giving up even before the match actually started!
For all those attacking me for making a comment that has been proven 110% correct, stay shush or at least accept you were wrong in going after me...list is getting rather long now:
Starc, Hazelwood, Green (all three missing so far), Warner (playing almost as if he doesn't even wanna play), rest of the top order mostly playing as if they have never played with a cricket ball. These are far from the Aussies we have seen all our lives, no matter what the conditions.
Yes, India probably played exceptionally well, pitches bamboozled Aussies who were not expecting pin point pitch 'grafting' from spot to spot, crowd played some role too...but the way Aussies have played, it is as if IPL contracts had a section about giving up even before the match actually started!