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jackal786 said:Dream on.. This is T20.. Australia lost to zimbabwe in this format.. So get a grip.. even worse Australia even lost to a team like PakistanYou gotta beat another team atleast twice to claim that you have a wood over someone.
Yeah your right its only 20/20 at the end of the day...India won a 20/20 wc, who cares, it doesn't mean jack.
legslip said:Yeah your right its only 20/20 at the end of the day...India won a 20/20 wc, who cares, it doesn't mean jack.
It is a one off match.. Have a series of 20/20. All these guys landed in Australia only few weeks back. Preparationwise, experiencewise INdia had a seriously undercooked team. But i am sure you won't agree. That's okay. We lost to a better team. They are the best team. No problem losing to them. No guilty pleasure beating teams like Zimbabwe.
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But seirously despite loss India should not worry about it. They should try to adapt as quickly as possible to these big grounds. Bowling looks decent. Total like 74 should have been chased inside 10 overs. Bowled well to take it beyond 10.
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its started in India..20 20 is not cricket..ha ha
Thank God people have accepted on this forum that Australia is a better team...ha ha otherwise bein in India and reading all the reactions you will get a feelin that Ind won 3 world cups...and Aus got kicked out in the first round of 2007..ha ha
Thank God people have accepted on this forum that Australia is a better team...ha ha otherwise bein in India and reading all the reactions you will get a feelin that Ind won 3 world cups...and Aus got kicked out in the first round of 2007..ha ha
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India got smoked!
I can see them struggling majorly in the cb series!
I can see them struggling majorly in the cb series!
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It's an embarrassing loss, but a good reminder of what a champion team Australia team is!
After Perth we went bit too much on air, almost forgetting how much we had to sweat to get to that victory. Indian media started to treat Australians as some B grade team, and for this T20 match- they were almost sure that we will crush Oz with 150 runs.
I feel this victory is actually a good wake-up call for many, and I'm glad Indian team reserved their worst for T20 match. I don't think they can play worse than this. We will be different in ODI tournament for sure.
After Perth we went bit too much on air, almost forgetting how much we had to sweat to get to that victory. Indian media started to treat Australians as some B grade team, and for this T20 match- they were almost sure that we will crush Oz with 150 runs.
I feel this victory is actually a good wake-up call for many, and I'm glad Indian team reserved their worst for T20 match. I don't think they can play worse than this. We will be different in ODI tournament for sure.
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Nobody celebrated.. Indians were happy with their performance. If Pakistan draws Australis let alone beat them wouldn't you be happy after losing 9 times in a row to Australia even with great pace bowlers like Akram, Younis, Akhtar.
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Well that wasn't worth watching. Thanks for wasting 90000 peoples time and causing traffic chaos all around my house India.
Anyway i think the ODI should be a cracker with the Oz, India and Lankans, expect it will be a real close affair, dont write to much into Indias 20/20 performance, in reality its only a bit of hit and giggle. Good night chaps and will see you on Sunday.
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lodge_boy said:
You won't understand how fun it is to stop Aussies at 16th continuous test victory, that too at Perth.
Better keep counting Afridi's sixes ...
jackal786 said:Come on... when it comes to adoratoin.... we cannot beat you guys.. That too before T20 final
well than don't u think u shud be in some indians forum right now n talking abt ur team india
? this pakpassion not indiapassion lol we can say whatever we like this is our forum not urs jackal786 said:Come on... when it comes to adoratoin.... we cannot beat you guys.. That too before T20 final
well then you definitely need to go to more Indian forums and watch aaj tv, star news etc to see how excited and crazy you fans get even in defeat.
lodge_boy said:plz don't crack jokes)
indian fans were celebrating like monkies, oh we beat aussies, india this n india that lolz they were celebrating as if they had won a world cup
Ya.. that is because even with 150 kph thunderbolt bowlers like akhtar Pakistan could jack sh** against OZ. Thumped by Australia all over the world. Srilanka lost at home 0-3 and then lost 0-2 in Australia. England lost 0-5, SA lost 5 out of last 6. Somebody has to show others.. that Australia can be beaten..in Australia. Australians are far superior team.. So beating them give a satisfaction. That too at Perth.. hahah for all the people who were ridiculing about Indian pace bowling. India beat Australia at Perth with a 19 year old, 23 year old, 22 year old seamers. Last time when India didn't play at Perth and Pakistan played.. some fans complained.. India escaped without playing at Perth. lol
159 & 72 remember? Btw.. we agree Australians are a great side.. better side.
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Amjid Javed said:
Just like everyone predicted 4-0 drubbing in test series, is it?
purplehaze said:You won't understand how fun it is to stop Aussies at 16th continuous test victory, that too at Perth.
Better keep counting Afridi's sixes ...
well than go celebratre ur victory in ur own indian forums what the heck r u doing on pakpassion?
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that's exactly what i am saying i don't have a clue y these indains are siging up here on pakpassion. this site is for pakistani cricket fans not for the indians lol they should get kicked out of here!
u indians don't see pakistanis signing up in indians forums do you?
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lodge_boy said:well than go celebratre ur victory in ur own indian forums what the heck r u doing on pakpassion?
Very intelligent reply to my post! Tells a lot about you, keep it up...
jackal786 said:Just to drive you crazy..
no you wrong mate that's coz u don't have any good indian cricket site lolz n also u are shameless! how can u even come to this site when u already know the releations between both countries? heheheh becharam loog
purplehaze said:Very intelligent reply to my post! Tells a lot about you, keep it up...
Not all of htem are like thism. Mostly sane people. Few guys like this... . Fans would have just complained about INdiians and left.. but tis wind up merchants don't leave us in peace what to do
jackal786 said:Not all of htem are like thism. Mostly sane people. Few guys like this... . Fans would have just complained about INdiians and left.. but tis wind up merchants don't leave us in peace what to do
u indians are shameless seriously, u know how much we hate each other n still u love to come in pakistanis cricket forums hehehehe
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Purplehaze,
I think you will find i predicted that Australia would win test series 2-1 which they did. Playing tests and odis in Aus is different and an inexperience india side is in for a rough ride in the odis.
I think you will find i predicted that Australia would win test series 2-1 which they did. Playing tests and odis in Aus is different and an inexperience india side is in for a rough ride in the odis.
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Amjid Javed said:
Glad to see someone finally discussing cricket
I understand the rationale behind your prediction, but at the same time we saw that it takes some time to get acclimatised to Australian conditions. Post Melbourne, we saw an entirely different cricket team. Most of the bunch in current T20 squad were coming straight from India and many are on their first Oz trip. It would be stupid to count them off so early, there is lot of cricket to be played and I m sure they have in them to bounce back, matter of just few one-dayers I believe....
purplehaze said:Glad to see someone finally discussing cricket
I understand the rationale behind your prediction, but at the same time we saw that it takes some time to get acclimatised to Australian conditions. Post Melbourne, we saw an entirely different cricket team. Most of the bunch in current T20 squad were coming straight from India and many are on their first Oz trip. It would be stupid to count them off so early, there is lot of cricket to be played and I m sure they have in them to bounce back, matter of just few one-dayers I believe....
Yea.. that is also there.. most of the guys came here only 3 or 4 days back. These guys don't even have such a huge first class record. They probably must have played 2 or 3 seasons. That's about it. Look at Hussey.. he is like 33. Played more than 10 seasons i think. They know these gorunds inside out. Our players played some rash shots.. and gifted the match away. I think they cannot get any worse than this. They will come back strongly i believe.
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PH,
In test matches indian batsmen had the luxury of having time to play themselves in and had a powerful middle order to fall back on if early wickets fell.
Indias middle order in this series is likely to be ghambir, Yuvraj, dhoni and then the likes of uttapha/S Rehna and as talented as these young players are they will find conditons tough.
On flip side its a chance for indian players to stake a long term place in the side and also the running between wickets and energy in field will increase.
Sri Lanka v India will be the contest which will decide the 2nd finalists.
In test matches indian batsmen had the luxury of having time to play themselves in and had a powerful middle order to fall back on if early wickets fell.
Indias middle order in this series is likely to be ghambir, Yuvraj, dhoni and then the likes of uttapha/S Rehna and as talented as these young players are they will find conditons tough.
On flip side its a chance for indian players to stake a long term place in the side and also the running between wickets and energy in field will increase.
Sri Lanka v India will be the contest which will decide the 2nd finalists.
purplehaze said:Glad to see someone finally discussing cricket
I understand the rationale behind your prediction, but at the same time we saw that it takes some time to get acclimatised to Australian conditions. Post Melbourne, we saw an entirely different cricket team. Most of the bunch in current T20 squad were coming straight from India and many are on their first Oz trip. It would be stupid to count them off so early, there is lot of cricket to be played and I m sure they have in them to bounce back, matter of just few one-dayers I believe....
It just goes to show what a disastrous decision the BCCI selectors made in dropping Ganguly and Dravid, if your already having this self defeating attitude of 'compromising a few one-dayers until the younger bunch can get acclimatised'. After the perfomances in the last 2 tests, India needed to retain these 2 guys and they may even have had a 50/50 chance in the one-dayers.
erm....sorry to rain your parade, but did you not just lose the Test Series, in the process being beaten by something like 342-runs in the First Test amounting to one of your worst defeats ever, nearly identical to the Karachi ignominy of 341 runs?
) So how was today's reminder about who is your daddy? watched the farce? 
Farhad said:erm....sorry to rain your parade, but did you not just lose the Test Series, in the process being beaten by something like 342-runs in the First Test amounting to one of your worst defeats ever, nearly identical to the Karachi ignominy of 341 runs?
Better than 53 & 59 fiasco, or 159 & 72 fiasco.. (perth).. 0-3, 0-3, 0-3 last 3 series.
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legslip said:
Same was said about Ishant Sharma, like how in the world can he replace Zaheer/ Sree and Co.! Couple of test matches and rest is history. He looks much more promising than earlier. You have to take risks to unearth new talent and give youngsters some chance. Some moves works for you, some doesn't and that's pretty much part n parcel of life.
Considering the format of this tri-series, it was very good move from BCCI to let new guys play so many games and accustomed to Australian conditions. It may not give instant result- but it may give returns in longer term. Remember among all those Indian players who performed in Test matches, most of them have been to Australia 2-3 times earlier.
Now that's what experience does.
I couldn't understand your "defeating attitude" theory. Sir Don Bradman's average was pretty low (~15.00) after 6 test innings, so if you were an OZ selector- you perhaps wouldn't have persisted with him beyond that point, right?
Amjid Javed said:
I have to agree with you here - India may manage to win one match or so, but of late they have been drubbed by Aussies whenever they met in ODIs. Those two matches in India notwithstanding.
And if you look at the ODI ratings too, where is India? 4? 5?
XFactor said:
India stands at 5 i think. But Aussies beat pretty much everyone.. They play too many one dayers.. who is going to rememeber all these 50 one dayers.. Let them lose. Let them learn the hard way. This team is very weak. everyone knows. But India has to start preparing for the exit of big 4. Losing in one dayers is not that big a deal.
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I think he was talking about Test cricket?It seems kashif is here with another account.Both have a same style of posting.pullshot said:
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XFactor said:
Newton's first law is like this:
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An object, at rest or moving at constant velocity, will continue to do so unless acted upon by external force
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So, based upon your comment, this should be a twisted version of Newton's first law for Indian cricket:
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Indian cricket team, at India or Australia at ODIs, will continue to loose unless acted upon by external force (BCCI?).
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purplehaze said:
I'm all for giving youngsters a chance in non-consequential series without disregarding or compromising the 'present'. However after recent events in Australia, this ODI series should of been at the top of the agenda of the BCCI selectors and they should have selected the squad with a win at all cost attitude in mind.
In the aforementioned post, what i meant was that many Indian fans are claiming that after a few losses in the one-dayers coming up, the younger inexperienced guys will suddenly start performing. Why should the team compromise a few losses and bad performances when Dravid and Ganguly could have played and done a decent job and realistically kept their series hopes alive. At the same time, these younger players could have been groomed and nurtured along through the series.
Playing so many rookies together is risky as it is let alone playing in Australia for your first series. I just feel their ought to have been a better mixture of youth and experience representing India and they may have even started the series at 50/50. It seems as if they have picked a squad with transition and a declared intention of a future team in mind. Which is fine, but in the process, they might just have forgotten the present.
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Farhad said:erm....sorry to rain your parade, but did you not just lose the Test Series, in the process being beaten by something like 342-runs in the First Test amounting to one of your worst defeats ever, nearly identical to the Karachi ignominy of 341 runs?
Better than getting thrashed 0-9 against the worlds best.
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He only watched the first test match.Rickz said:Better than getting thrashed 0-9 against the worlds best
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legslip said:
Had Dravid/ Dada stayed back- India might have won few more matches than they eventually would, few centuries would have been made adding to personal glories of these players- but at a larger picture what India would have gained? How many among current lot would be there in 2011 Oz tour? Bringing entire new bunch to Oz for 2011 tour would really have murderous. Just to counter that- all BCCI has done is selected a pool and even if half of these new faces can make it in 2011 tour- it would be an experiment worth a trial in my book!
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purplehaze said:
I'm all for giving youngsters a chance in non-consequential series without disregarding or compromising the 'present'. However after recent events in Australia, one would of thought that this series would have been at the top of the agenda of the BCCI selectors and that they would have selected the squad with a win at all cost attitude in mind. The needth of the hour was credibility and a fight back, after the improved performance in the tests and the recent events and attitude of the Australians towards them.
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Bit of a thrashing in the end eh. Huge crowd though, shame they didn't get more for their money.
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purplehaze said:
You're never as good as people say you are, and you're never as bad as people say you are.
it's been a long time since Indian team acted this way - crashing to 74 all out.
I can only guess at what happened - overconfidence, underconfidence, too much planning, no planning, lack of practice, crowd nerves...basically the youngsters have to pull up their socks and it will be interesting to see how Yuvi, dhoni, sharmas, gambhir and sehwag react to this. In a way its good it happened before the cb series because they couldnt have afforded a blow up like this at the start.
I can only guess at what happened - overconfidence, underconfidence, too much planning, no planning, lack of practice, crowd nerves...basically the youngsters have to pull up their socks and it will be interesting to see how Yuvi, dhoni, sharmas, gambhir and sehwag react to this. In a way its good it happened before the cb series because they couldnt have afforded a blow up like this at the start.
All this hooplah about beating Aus after one game - they won 16 straight - i think this loss does not demonstrate that aus can be beaten until somebody beats then in a series their utter dominance of world cricket will not end. I think they just had an off day at Perth - yes India played well but it not well enough to even claim a moral victory.jackal786 said:
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OzPride said:Yeh but with the harby tribunal hearing that made it 2 all didn it, they won because apparrently they hade some thing callled a moral victory and it was celebrated with great vigour...LOL
Actually, the Harby tribunal hearing where Harby only got fined instead of banned was apparently the biggest win of the tour because they "stuck it up the bullies" lol.
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david_becks said:I think he was talking about Test cricket?It seems kashif is here with another account.Both have a same style of posting.
You don´t mind having a go at Kashif don´t you
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