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Australia v Pakistan | 2nd ODI | Melbourne | Jan 15, 2017 | Pre-Match Thread

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By keeping in mind 1st odi batting what should be your team, Sarfaraz and malik is must because if they are not available then even part time spinners will go economical.....
 
Remains to be seen whether or not Pakistan can extend it's 1-0 Moral Victory lead over the Aussies or not.

Going to keep my own tab:

Game 1 at the Gabba: Restricted Australia to under 300. 1-0 to us.
 
Need Malik or Asad to stabilize the innings in the middle; 268 is achievable total but poor game tactics and lack of awareness from Umar, Rizwan and think tank cost us the game, we dont know how to rotate the strike is the biggest down turn for us in this first ODI
 
do you think that 'hafeez' is going to be dropped for Malik?

if malik gets well, he's definitely going to play the next match,

but will he be replacing Hafeez as that is something that must happen?

Or seniority is again at advantage?
 
Hafeez should be dropped. Malik won't do any worse as a bowler or Batsman
 
Drop Wahab, the guy conceded 114 runs, that's more than half the runs sometimes Pakistan can even score. Also, he bowls no balls at crucial stages and concedes free hits :facepalm: He is not a team player, most of the time he plays against the team. With Wahab in the team Pakistan are one bowler short and one team player short.
 
Nawaz has no business in the team, not an international level player at all. Hafeez should be dropped too and lets play a bowler instead, Junaid. Shoaib needs to come in, hope he is well now.
 
1. Sharjeel
2. Umar Akmal
3. Azhar
4. Babar Azam
5. Malik
6. Rizwan
7. Imad
8. Nawaz
9. Hasan Ali
10. Junaid
11. Amir

Give Riaz a rest, try out Junaid. Torn between playing Nawaz or Hafeez, but Hafeez doesn't really offer us any long term use, was in poor form in domestic and just returning to international cricket, coming to Australia late. And will be too old by world cup time. After this tour, I'd look to be playing a batsman who can bowl a bit of part time, to make up 10 overs with Azhar, Malik. And to play Imad at 8.
 
1. Sharjeel Khan
2. Mohammad Hafeez (If Azhar is not healthy)
3. Babar Azam
4. Shoaib Malik (C)
5. Mohammad Rizwan (WK)/ Umar Akmal
6. Umar Akmal/ Mohammad Rizwan (WK)
7. Imad Wasim
8. Mohammad Nawaz
9. Junaid Khan
10. Hasan Ali
11. Mohammad Amir
 
1. Azhar Ali
2. Sharjeel Khan
3. Babar Azam
4. Malik
5. Rizwan
6. U Akmal
7. Imad Wasim
8. Nawaz
9. Amir
10. Hassan Ali
11. Junaid Khan
 
Sharjeel
Azhar
Babar
Malik
Hafeez (bcoz he's better than Nawaz)
Umar
Rizwan.
Imad
Amir
Junaid Khan
Hasan Ali
 
Sharjeel
Hafeez
Azam
Malik*
Akmal
Rizwan+
Wasim
Nawaz
Amir
Hasan
Junaid
 
Last match I will see before college starts. Insha'Allah Pakistan will win this.
 
It will be 100%
5-0
Regardless of who plays.

Agreed, Pakistan has so many problems that cannot be fixed by 2/3 changes...Forget about AUS, they cannot beat any team outside UAE in LOIs.... Our batting is so outdated, bowling does not have enough bite...Captaincy is very defensive...There is no positive ATM :facepalam:
 
Might see akmal take the gloves and bring in Malik in place of Rizwan. Probably Junaid or Rahat coming in for Rahat
 
Agreed, Pakistan has so many problems that cannot be fixed by 2/3 changes...Forget about AUS, they cannot beat any team outside UAE in LOIs.... Our batting is so outdated, bowling does not have enough bite...Captaincy is very defensive...There is no positive ATM :facepalam:

We are a more competitive ODI side outside the UAE
 
Maybe Arthur should double down on aggressive mantra and have akmal open the batting in case Azhar does not recover.
 
SK
Umar
Babar
Asad
MoHa
Malik
Rizwan
Imad
Amir
Hasan
JK/Rahat

Amir to lead the side (OK, too much asking, MoHa'll toss the coin, as Mian won't indulge in the rat race - MoHa still is far better Captain that the official one)

This is the only chance Mickey to try Uamr as opener; otherwise you might be sacked before Azhar is sacked & he'll keep opening as long as he is Captain :(.

Sadly, 2-0 to hosts though ........ hopefully, may be outside 40 overs or less than 75 runs this time.
 
Azhar won't be fit in time for the 2nd ODI. As much as I hate to say it, I can bet Hafeez will lead the side.

Hafeez (c)
Sharjeel
Babar
Malik
Akmal
Rizwan (+)
Imad
Nawaz
Amir
Hasan
Junaid
 
If Azhar is fit I would replace him with Nawaz in the team and play Hafeez lower down the order
 
This to me is the ideal squad considering Azhar Ali to miss 2nd ODI
1. Sharjeel
2. Hafeez ( personally like him to be at no.6 )
3.Babar
4. Umar
5. Mallik(C)
6.Asad Shafiq
7. Rizwan
8. Immad
9.Amir
10.Hasan
11.junaid


Junaid & Amir to share new ball then Hasan clever slower balls then to Hafeez & Immi to ball in tandem to put pressure. It's a decent bowling attack
 
Mickey will consult with Inzi on the captaincy issue.. And I'm sure both will go to Malik for captaincy and It is upto Malik to reject the opportunity... It is a golden opportunity for whoever gets the captains armband as azhar is still unsettled with captaincy.. Winning the series in Australia or atleast few matches will be the measuring margin...
 
So we'll assume Azhar is out, this would be my team.

Umar
Sharjeel
Babar
Malik
Hafeez
Rizwan
Imad
Hasan
Amir
Junaid
Wahab/Nawaz

May as well give Umar a chance to open. Imad would be my captain. Have a feeling Hafeez is gonna toss the coin though.
 
Need hafeez in the lower order, but with Azhar out injured and Hafeez having opened before, meaning he will have to open or maybe even open with Babar (hit a double century as opener in FC final)

1. Hafeez
2. Sharjeel
3. Babar
4. Akmal
5. Malik
6. Rizwan
7. Imad
8. Amir
9. Nawaz
10. Wahab
11. Hassan

Nawaz doesn't belong in the team, but no other choice with Hafeez being needed as an opener and him not wanting to play in the lower order.
 
Looking through peoples batting order only on sharjeel is consistently there as a opener. Shows the state of the affairs.
 
Maybe Arthur should double down on aggressive mantra and have akmal open the batting in case Azhar does not recover.
If azhar doesn't play it will be
sharjeel and hafeez opening with babar at 3.
 
Why on earth have Pakistan got 6 bowlers in the side, plus Azhar? Very strange I reckon.
Surely we could have included a batter in place of Nawaz. Maybe Shafiq. Our batting is weaker than our bowling, so shouldn't we strengthen that part of our team? Nawaz is not good enough - I have never ever seen him bat well.....ever! Same goes for Rizwan! Give the gloves to U. Akmal.
Changes I'd like to see: Rizwan and Nawaz out for Sarfaraz and Malik. Maybe replace Hafeez with Shafiq, and tell Shafiq that his role would be too hold down one end and just alternate the strike, to try and build batting partnerships.
 
The match is in just about 28 hours and the previous one finished only 12 hours ago.

Is there really enough time to cram in a training session?
Seriously??? Some bowling and a hit in the nets tonight or tomorrow morning won't suffice? Acclimatizing to surrounds and weather conditions? Hone their skills and work on any little aspect of their game that needs tinkering? - batting or bowling.
That thinking is why Australia have won every match in this series so far, and why Pakistan have lost every match.

Thank god you don't manage the team.
 
Seriously??? Some bowling and a hit in the nets tonight or tomorrow morning won't suffice? Acclimatizing to surrounds and weather conditions? Hone their skills and work on any little aspect of their game that needs tinkering? - batting or bowling.
That thinking is why Australia have won every match in this series so far, and why Pakistan have lost every match.

Thank god you don't manage the team.

Calm down. I was unsure which is why I left the question mark at the end.

I'm not sure if teams have proper training sessions between back to back matches. They need to travel, get some sleep and recover as well.
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Just checked - the team will not train today. Makes sense.
 
Nothing is going to work for us !!! It is like playing Chess with only pawns on our side and the opposition has all the pieces !!! We are not going to win under that situation. We need players huge mental strength.... talent we have, but how to best utilize it .... we don't!!! Until then we will only suffer and hope for the best.
 
Australia is a much superior side than Pakistan.

Nawaz , Imad , hafeez , three same kinds of players , no pace bowling all rounder , this is stupidity of highe order
 
Calm down. I was unsure which is why I left the question mark at the end.

I'm not sure if teams have proper training sessions between back to back matches. They need to travel, get some sleep and recover as well.
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Just checked - the team will not train today. Makes sense.
Sorry brother. Please forgive my impatience, which I'm working on. My passion for the Pakistan cricket team get's the better of me sometimes.
Thanks for checking training. I obviously incorrectly thought there would be a hit-out or something.

Inshallah we put on some sort of fight tomoz at the G.
 
Sharjeel
Asad
Hafeez
Babar
Malik
Umar
Rizwan
Imad
Amir
Hassan
Junaid

This is what Mickey is gonna select
 
Sharjeel Khan
Asad Shafiq
Hafeez
Babar Azam
Akmal
Rizwan
Imad Wasim
Nawaz
Amir
Hassan Ali
Junaid Khan
 
Hope pak bat first so maybe i can watch the whole match :yk
 
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Our two most important batsman- Malik and Sarfraz are gone. If Hafeez opens, then Shafiq comes in at 4. Asad is too slow to play there. If Shafiq opens, Hafeez will demand to play at 3. Moving Azam down to 4. :facepalm: So I would rather have Shafiq opening though. Or instead of bringing in Asad, Pakistan can bring in Junaid in Azhar's place. Moving Amir up to 8. Which is fine. Rizwan is good enough to play at 4. Or we could try Akmal there. Basically half our squad is gone so it is impossible to organize the lineup.
 
With proven failures like hafeez and akmal, Pak batting will collapse at 150 or less.
 
I expect

Hafeez
Sharjeel
Babar
Shafiq
Akmal
Malik
Rizwan
Imad
Amir
Riaz
Hasan

so we mess around with Babar and his position once again
bravo!
 
With the recent form of our team it is not a case of whether we can win the match but how big will be the margin of loss.
 
With no Malik, Azhar, Sarfraz, or Irfan, the team I'd pick from the 13 man squad would be:

Sharjeel
Hafeez*
Babar
Shafiq
Umar
Rizwan (WK)
Imad
Nawaz/Junaid
Amir
Wahab
Hasan

No options at all.

Shafiq will unfortunately have to play.

Wahab, if he has another poor outing, should be benched for the next few games.

Umar and Rizwan, if they fail the next four straight, should be dropped.
 
Honestly I wouldn't play Shafiq.

Sharjeel
Hafeez*
Babar
Rizwan+
Akmal
Wasim
Nawaz
Amir
Riaz
Rahat
Junaid
 
Don't what Wahab to play , Imad is a must in our team meaning there is no need for Nawaz. But more than likely Wahab and Nawaz will play. Wouldn't be surprised if Australia scored big in this game.
 
Honestly I wouldn't play Shafiq.

Sharjeel
Hafeez*
Babar
Rizwan+
Akmal
Wasim
Nawaz
Amir
Riaz
Rahat
Junaid

vow looks like you have an atg batting middle order that you are playing with one batsman less but I get your point. Asad is a liability in an ODI team.
 
Umar
sharjeel
hafeez
babar
shafiq
Imad
rizwan
amir
hassan
junaid
rahat

would be my team and batting order.... let's see what mickey selects..
 
Sharjeel
Hafeez :Facepalm:
Babar
Asad
Malik
Rizwan
Nawaz
Imad
Aamir
Junaid
Hasan
 
It's going to be slaughter tonight

If Aussies bat first, one of smith or warner is bound to come good and I can see a score of between 350-400

If we bat first, the best we will get against this line up is 280 and Aussies will eat that up in 40 overs

We had our opportunity to get them when they were 70/5. Not going to happen again
 
Imad needs to bat at 6 tomorrow

1. Sharjeel Khan
2. Asad Shafiq
3. Hafeez
4. Babar Azam
5. Akmal
6. Imad Wasim
7. Rizwan
 
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Last match we got Warner and Smith out cheaply..... probably will not happen again ..... sure hope so though !!!
 
I am in shock over Hafeez being made captain. 1 step forward, 4 steps back, Pakistan cricket in a nutshell. You make a bits and pieces player who can't bat overseas a captain. :91: :91:

England have Root, India have Kohil, OZ have Steve Smith and all we can muster is Hafeez :91: :91:

Imad or Sharjeel perhaps? Let a top performing player be captain at the very least. :facepalm:
 
Hafeez
Sharjeel
Babar
Akmal
Malik
Rizwan
Imad
Amir
Wahab
Junaid
Hassan Ali

May as well play Junaid as a specialist bowler since Nawaz contributes nothing with the bat.
 
Rizwan was horrible in batting in 1st ODI and so was Nawaz. Make these changes:

Replace Azhar (injured) with Malik.
Replace Nawaz with Asad.
Replace Wahab with Junaid.

1. Hafeez
2. Sharjeel
3. Babar
4. Asad
5. Malik
6. Akmal
7. Imad
8. Rizwan
9. Amir
10. Hasan
11. Junaid
 
Nawaz and Riaz shouldn't play.

I can't believe Inzi didn't select Sohail Khan for the ODIs, he's 10 times the LO bowler Wahab is.

Nawaz shouldn't be anywhere near the playing 11. A dud with the bat, and not smart enough with the ball. Nawaz was good in the PSL because he could afford to dart the ball in and the pitches would continue to help him. Imad wasn't that good in the psl but he's smart enough to succeed at the International level.
 
Nawaz and Riaz shouldn't play.

I can't believe Inzi didn't select Sohail Khan for the ODIs, he's 10 times the LO bowler Wahab is.

Nawaz shouldn't be anywhere near the playing 11. A dud with the bat, and not smart enough with the ball. Nawaz was good in the PSL because he could afford to dart the ball in and the pitches would continue to help him. Imad wasn't that good in the psl but he's smart enough to succeed at the International level.

Riaz can be replaced with Junaid.

Nawaz we have no choice, not enough batsmen in the squad with Sarfraz, Azhar and Malik out. We'll need someone with a bit of batting. Plus Aussies struggle more with spin than pace.
 
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