Australia v South Africa | 1st Test | Perth | Nov 3-7, 2016 | Day 3

[marlonbrowndo]

Are you by any chance Lillian
Thomson,mate

Whose that?

 

[MMHS]

After tea, SAF must keep attacking. This is the time to go after the tired attack. Also, Elgar has batted 7+ hours in this heat, he won't last longer; better he should blast out. SAF has a body length advantage, only way Aussies can make a come back is, SAF becomes too cautious & then lose 3-4 wickets in short time.

I have seen - defensive, careful cricket never works against Aussies, they'll ride on your back. Just go after & keep their spirit down.

 

[MMHS]

Whose that?

It's a joke - in 1974 Lillee- Thompson scared the Poms so much that their regular Captain dropped himself after 3rd Test & they called old guy Cowdrey from home. Some tabloid published a satire that Poms were shy from the Aussie girl Lillan Thompson.

 

[rollingstoned]

I can't believe that Australia turned to spin for the 7th over with a new ball at the WACA.

I have to say, Australia are getting buried here. They now have a 0% chance of victory - they have to try to hold out for a draw, like Mark Greatbatch so famously did for NZ against them 26 years ago.

Rod Marsh and Mark Waugh have a major set of problems as selectors now. The attack is basically a half-fit Mitch Starc plus nothing and is reliant on dodgy behaviour to doctor the ball for reverse swing

And the batting looks thin too.

My comments eighteen months ago about New Zealand's Test team look stupider than ever now. It's becoming fairly clear that in the home and away series v Australia a year ago we saw a mediocre Australia beat a poor New Zealand team.

Apart from Chenai 2005 where Martyn was brilliant I really cannot remember when Australia even at their pomp saved a test match, this is one reason why even if the pitch is a decent one I don't favour them getting anything from this match even with Steyn out. It's just not the way they play.

 

[James]

Apart from Chenai 2005 where Martyn was brilliant I really cannot remember when Australia even at their pomp saved a test match, this is one reason why even if the pitch is a decent one I don't favour them getting anything from this match even with Steyn out. It's just not the way they play.

Yes and Old Trafford in 2005. But there have not been many.

Strong performance from SA, surely even they can't mess this one up now with so much time left in the game.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

It's a joke - in 1974 Lillee- Thompson scared the Poms so much that their regular Captain dropped himself after 3rd Test & they called old guy Cowdrey from home. Some tabloid published a satire that Poms were shy from the Aussie girl Lillan Thompson.

I see

 

[Junaids]

It's a joke - in 1974 Lillee- Thompson scared the Poms so much that their regular Captain dropped himself after 3rd Test & they called old guy Cowdrey from home. Some tabloid published a satire that Poms were shy from the Aussie girl Lillan Thompson.

It was a bit different with me.

I was only 5 when England toured Australia in 1974-75 and we didn't have any proper TV coverage - the wickets would be shown on the news the next lunchtime and evening.

But there was nothing else on the radio - well, for a schoolboy - apart from endless analysis of the terror that Lillee And Thomson were inflicting on England. In the end the skipper dropped himself, David Lloyd had his box broken and the ancient Colin Cowdrey was sent out as a reinforcement.

So the words Lillee And Thomson mutated into the terrifying spectre of Lillian Thomson......

 

[street cricketer]

Australian batting didn't look convincing even two years ago against India (their immensely strong lower order of Haddin, MJ, Harris, Starc and Hazelwood made a huge difference in that series). But their bowling looks a bit thin too when faced with injuries. I know Patto is out of the season, not sure about Cummins. They desperately need him to make the series against Pakistan and hope that Starc remains fully fit and injury free. Starc, Hazelwood, Cummins, Marsh and Lyon will make a very good attack.

For the first time in a very long time I see Pakistan coming into the series in Australia with a more settled batting line up than the home team. Australia should look to fix their middle order woes soon, otherwise they should start making changes to increase the revenues. Otherwise the Pak bowling attack is capable of inflicting damage to the Australian batting line up on good bouncy wickets.

 

[Jabo]

Lol

Commentator not hiding which team he's supporting

 

[street cricketer]

I'm not sold on Shaun Marsh and Khawaja. I don't know why Australia aren't trying out Bancroft and Handscomb.

I would like Australia to field a line up of

Bancroft
Warner
Handscomb
Smith (c)
Voges
Marsh
Neville (wk)
Starc
Lyon
Hazelwood
Cummins

Think it's probably better than the current line up.

 

[Adijazz1706]

Starc is being ground into the dust here and so are Australia. In Amla, Elgar, Bavuma and Du Plessis, SA have no issues with patience.

 

[Slog]

Ian Chappell always sneaks in these jibes at Pakistan out of nowhere

Been doing for years for some reason. No idea why

 

[Junaids]

Ian Chappell always sneaks in these jibes at Pakistan out of nowhere

Been doing for years for some reason. No idea why

He's been good for Pakistan. He made Imran Khan the great skipper that he was - much more attacking than Misbah, for example.

His comments about Sarfraz and Javed are completely fair. The way they behaved in that series was disgusting.

 

[Junaids]

Bavuma showing why you actually DON'T pull or hook in Australia!

 

[anuk]

SA just losing their way a little bit. they would want 400+ with so much time remaining in the test.

 

[Adijazz1706]

Lets see what QDK can do here

 

[street cricketer]

Ian Chappell always sneaks in these jibes at Pakistan out of nowhere

Been doing for years for some reason. No idea why

What did he say?

 

[Ozymandiasza]

Faf

 

[street cricketer]

Bavuma showing why you actually DON'T pull or hook in Australia!

Kohli's 4 tons in Australia were almost entirely composed of cover drives, straight drives and pull shots.

I know the tracks were a bit more forgiving, but the bowling attack was much better - MJ, Harris, Hazelwood, Starc, etc.

 

[Junaids]

Kohli's 4 tons in Australia were almost entirely composed of cover drives, straight drives and pull shots.

I know the tracks were a bit more forgiving, but the bowling attack was much better - MJ, Harris, Hazelwood, Starc, etc.

But he is a top, top batsman.

My point is that none of the Pakistanis should be hooking and probably only Sarfraz should be pulling.

BTW, Vern Philander proving the value of a third quick who can average 25 with the bat!

 

[Junaids]

A first century beckons for Australia.

But it's Mitch Starc. With the ball!

 

[rollingstoned]

Vern fills the Shaun Pollock hole nicely.

 

[Ozymandiasza]

Yes and Old Trafford in 2005. But there have not been many.

Strong performance from SA, surely even they can't mess this one up now with so much time left in the game.

Hey now, don't jinx it.

 

[street cricketer]

But he is a top, top batsman.

My point is that none of the Pakistanis should be hooking and probably only Sarfraz should be pulling.

BTW, Vern Philander proving the value of a third quick who can average 25 with the bat!

Hook shot is probably not a good idea. Though I think cover drive is a good option. Azhar played it well at England iirc. Sarfaraz is good in the covers as well..

 

[Adijazz1706]

SA well ahead, should bat till a few overs after lunch setting ~500 as the target.

 

[MenInG]

Really dont see a way back for Australia here unless SA administer a self-choke in massive doses.

 

[Protea Fan]

I've been surprised by Smith's usage of Lyon

Especially his non usage in the first session with two lefties in

 

[Hasan123]

Main problem for SA is that they are a bowler down so it means a lot of work for the 2 quicks. So if Aussies can see of rabada and phillandor they'll think they have a chance vs the part timers SA will have to bowl.

Personally think South Africa will win this game because Australian batting line up is weak and under pressure. Australia should look at trying to include handscombe and bancroft in the next test. They seem decent players and surprised they haven't been called up earlier.

 

[Adil_94]

Aussies can still win this. If Warner and Smith fire they can chase 400. But Saffers are still favourites atm.

 

[anuk]

sa should bat at least another session..maybe even a bit more. u need all the run support possible when ur strike bowler is out of the game.

hoping philander can hit that crack consistently. it'll be mighty difficult for aussies if that is the case.

 

[MMHS]

Well, I think JP has a good chance to add a 5fer with his century. If he starts to flight the ball over eye line with 5 men on line - you never know.

It's shameful for cricket as a whole that I wrote something for historically the strongest cricket side, that's the standard operating process against tail-enders. Hope Aussies prove me wrong.

 

[MenInG]

Standard Bank Proteas all-rounder, JP Duminy, has described his career-defining innings of 141 on the third day of the first Test against Australia at the WACA ground as a ‘step in the right direction’. Duminy, who was dropped from the Test team in January, says he went through an introspective period following the disappointment and was determined to make a contribution after being given a second chance.

“There were indifferent feelings, I wasn’t sure where I was going in terms of my career,” he said honestly. “I’m grateful to get another opportunity, I got another opportunity in the fourth Test against England and did okay. I always knew that to try and make a mark in Test cricket again I needed to put in the performances.

“The change came just before the West Indies tour,” he said. “I sat down and re-assessed where I wanted to go and re-assessed my goals. Test cricket has always been a big part of my goal-setting, I knew that I was at a crossroad in terms of my Test career and I wanted to leave my Test career knowing that I had given it my all. I committed to giving myself the best chance, in whichever way that I could, so that was the difference.”

His fifth Test century, and his third against Australia, ended a trying 11-match drought without a century, but was also an encouraging sign of the responsibility he has taken since moving up the order to number four, especially in the absence of AB de Villiers. He has attributed his success against Australia to the persistence of his opponents, whom he feels bring an unrelenting and unique challenge.

“I was pleased with the opportunity,” he said of his move up the order. “It’s something that I have enjoyed in the first-class arena, batting at four, and to be given the nod to go ahead, especially with it being a crucial position in the South African team, was a positive for me. I knew I had to step up and fill some big boots, we had Jacques Kallis and AB de Villiers batting there before, so there are some big boots to fill and obviously today was a step in the right direction.

“You know that you have to bring your ‘A’ game every time that you play against them,” he said of Australia. “There is no period that you get to rest and today was testament to that. I didn’t feel at any stage that I could relax and take my time, it was about focusing on every ball. That is something that myself and Dean (Elgar) spoke about, focusing on the next ball, especially if there was something that happened in the wicket or a good ball was bowled. We came down the wicket and made sure that we focused on the next ball, that was the key to our partnership.”

Duminy says the team has yet to place a marker on a possible declaration target, and are rather focused on batting time with the lead currently sitting at 388.

 

[soso_killer]

After tea, SAF must keep attacking. This is the time to go after the tired attack. Also, Elgar has batted 7+ hours in this heat, he won't last longer; better he should blast out. SAF has a body length advantage, only way Aussies can make a come back is, SAF becomes too cautious & then lose 3-4 wickets in short time.

I have seen - defensive, careful cricket never works against Aussies, they'll ride on your back. Just go after & keep their spirit down.

2012 Adelaide?

 

[Markhor]

Duminy batted beautifully today - that straight drive to bring up his 50 was divine.

Elgar was superb too, a gritty knock and SAF after being cheaply bowled out in the 4th inns are in the driving seat. With Steyn's injury leaving their bowling short, they will need a massive lead.

 

[Haroon786]

SA will probably want to get another 100 runs to cover up for Steyn's absence in the 4th innings bowling effort.

 

[MMHS]

2012 Adelaide?

Aussies were couple of bowlers short. Also, it's not about saving a Test - on 4th innings, you have to try play out overs in a hopeless chase. Kallis also saved a Test in MCG, in late 90s.

I am talking about open matches, where the game is reasonably balanced - most of the time Aussies will go for aggressive cricket & they'll win. There are examples like Eden 2002, when that strategy back fired; but in general, they are good in those situations. Yesterday JP, Faf & Elgar didn't go to shell against 2nd ball.