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The republic’s supreme leader has plotted an exit route out of Tehran should his forces fail to quell dissent, an intelligence report reveals

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Ayatollah Ali Khamenei greeting a crowd during a ceremony in Tehran on Saturday
IRAN’S SUPREME LEADER OFFICE/EPA

Iran’s Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has a back-up plan to flee the country should his security forces fail to suppress protests or desert, according to an intelligence report shared with The Times.

Khamenei, 86, plans to escape Tehran with a close circle of up to 20 aides and family, should he see that the army and security called on to quell the unrest are deserting, defecting or failing to follow orders.

“The ‘plan B’ is for Khamenei and his very close circle of associates and family, including his son and nominated heir apparent, Mojtaba,” an intelligence source told The Times.

Beni Sabti, who served for decades in Israeli intelligence after fleeing the regime eight years after the Islamic revolution, told The Times that Khamenei would flee to Moscow as “there is no other place for him”.

Inside Iran protests that threaten regime: ‘This is the final battle’

Khamenei also “admires Putin, while the Iranian culture is more similar to the Russian culture”.

The getaway plan is based on the escape of his ally, the fallen Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad who fled Damascus aboard a plane to Moscow to join his family before opposition forces stormed the capital in December 2024.

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“They have plotted an exit route out of Tehran should they feel the need to escape,” which includes “gathering assets, properties abroad and cash to facilitate their safe passage”, the source said.

Khamenei is known to hold a major network of assets, some under one of the most powerful organisations in Iran, Setad — part of a system of semi-state charitable foundations known for their financial obfuscation. Estimates put the total holdings at $95 billion, according to a Reuters investigation in 2013, including properties and companies, all held and controlled by Khamenei.

Many of his closest aides, including the secretary of Iran’s supreme national security council, Ali Larijani — who warned President Trump to stay out of Tehran’s affairs — have family members already living abroad, including in the US, Canada and Dubai.

Nationwide protests triggered by economic hardships have gripped cities across Iran, including in the holy city of Qom, over the last week.

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Protesters accuse anti-riot forces — made up of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), the Basij militia, the police and the army — of using violent means including live fire, tear gas and water cannons to suppress the demonstrations.


The forces are under the total command of Khameini, who is the supreme source of power in the Islamic republic, overruling the army, courts and media. He relies on the IRGC to enforce his bidding as a central source of power.

The escape plan will be activated should Khamenei feel his security forces are not following orders. Desertion and defection are not easily undertaken, with Khamenei protecting loyalists, controlling key appointments and their safety, according to a psychological profile of the leader done by a western intelligence agency and seen by The Times.

But the same assessment said Khamenei was “weaker, both mentally and physically” since last year’s 12-day war with Israel. He has barely been seen in public and, notably, has not been seen or heard from during the last several days of protests. For the duration of war, Khamenei holed up in a bunker, avoiding the fate of several other high-level IRGC officials and feeding his “obsession with survival”.

The assessment calls him a “paranoid” leader, a trait that shaped his plan to leave Iran should his forces desert him. “On one hand, he is very ideologically motivated, but on the other he is pragmatic in what he sees: he sees tactical compromise for long-term greater cause. He is a long-term thinker,” the assessment read.

Khamenei was born in Mashhad in 1939 to a family of religious clerics, from Azeri-Turkish origins. When he was young, he was interested in poetry, Persian and Western music, and literature, reading classics including by Tolstoy and Steinbeck.

Under the rule of Iran’s last shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Khamenei joined the opposition. He was arrested several times and tortured by the Savak secret police, and in 1981 survived an assassination attempt that resulted in the loss of the use of one of his hands.

According to the assessment, the assassination attempt solidified a sense of “divine mission” to lead Iran in its mission to oppose Israel and the west, and preserve the regime above all else. After the revolution, he became deputy defence minister and member of council before becoming president. When the former supreme leader Ruhollah Khomeini died, Khamenei rose to power — despite not having the necessary chain of learned liturgical credentials to be leader.

He sees himself as the leader of Shi’ite Muslims worldwide, justifying his investments in the so-called axis of resistance — Hezbollah in Lebanon, Hamas in Gaza, and Shi’ite movements and militias in Iraq, Syria and Yemen.

The decapitation of those fronts in the war with Israel has led Iranians to question the investment in external forces instead of his own people, who have been left with record inflation and deteriorating living conditions. One chant heard on the streets of Iran sounded out: “No to Gaza, no to Lebanon, I’d give my life for Iran only.”


 
The republic’s supreme leader has plotted an exit route out of Tehran should his forces fail to quell dissent, an intelligence report reveals

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Ayatollah Ali Khamenei greeting a crowd during a ceremony in Tehran on Saturday
IRAN’S SUPREME LEADER OFFICE/EPA

Iran’s Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has a back-up plan to flee the country should his security forces fail to suppress protests or desert, according to an intelligence report shared with The Times.

Khamenei, 86, plans to escape Tehran with a close circle of up to 20 aides and family, should he see that the army and security called on to quell the unrest are deserting, defecting or failing to follow orders.

“The ‘plan B’ is for Khamenei and his very close circle of associates and family, including his son and nominated heir apparent, Mojtaba,” an intelligence source told The Times.

Beni Sabti, who served for decades in Israeli intelligence after fleeing the regime eight years after the Islamic revolution, told The Times that Khamenei would flee to Moscow as “there is no other place for him”.

Inside Iran protests that threaten regime: ‘This is the final battle’

Khamenei also “admires Putin, while the Iranian culture is more similar to the Russian culture”.

The getaway plan is based on the escape of his ally, the fallen Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad who fled Damascus aboard a plane to Moscow to join his family before opposition forces stormed the capital in December 2024.

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“They have plotted an exit route out of Tehran should they feel the need to escape,” which includes “gathering assets, properties abroad and cash to facilitate their safe passage”, the source said.

Khamenei is known to hold a major network of assets, some under one of the most powerful organisations in Iran, Setad — part of a system of semi-state charitable foundations known for their financial obfuscation. Estimates put the total holdings at $95 billion, according to a Reuters investigation in 2013, including properties and companies, all held and controlled by Khamenei.

Many of his closest aides, including the secretary of Iran’s supreme national security council, Ali Larijani — who warned President Trump to stay out of Tehran’s affairs — have family members already living abroad, including in the US, Canada and Dubai.

Nationwide protests triggered by economic hardships have gripped cities across Iran, including in the holy city of Qom, over the last week.

View attachment 160537

Protesters accuse anti-riot forces — made up of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), the Basij militia, the police and the army — of using violent means including live fire, tear gas and water cannons to suppress the demonstrations.


The forces are under the total command of Khameini, who is the supreme source of power in the Islamic republic, overruling the army, courts and media. He relies on the IRGC to enforce his bidding as a central source of power.

The escape plan will be activated should Khamenei feel his security forces are not following orders. Desertion and defection are not easily undertaken, with Khamenei protecting loyalists, controlling key appointments and their safety, according to a psychological profile of the leader done by a western intelligence agency and seen by The Times.

But the same assessment said Khamenei was “weaker, both mentally and physically” since last year’s 12-day war with Israel. He has barely been seen in public and, notably, has not been seen or heard from during the last several days of protests. For the duration of war, Khamenei holed up in a bunker, avoiding the fate of several other high-level IRGC officials and feeding his “obsession with survival”.

The assessment calls him a “paranoid” leader, a trait that shaped his plan to leave Iran should his forces desert him. “On one hand, he is very ideologically motivated, but on the other he is pragmatic in what he sees: he sees tactical compromise for long-term greater cause. He is a long-term thinker,” the assessment read.

Khamenei was born in Mashhad in 1939 to a family of religious clerics, from Azeri-Turkish origins. When he was young, he was interested in poetry, Persian and Western music, and literature, reading classics including by Tolstoy and Steinbeck.

Under the rule of Iran’s last shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Khamenei joined the opposition. He was arrested several times and tortured by the Savak secret police, and in 1981 survived an assassination attempt that resulted in the loss of the use of one of his hands.

According to the assessment, the assassination attempt solidified a sense of “divine mission” to lead Iran in its mission to oppose Israel and the west, and preserve the regime above all else. After the revolution, he became deputy defence minister and member of council before becoming president. When the former supreme leader Ruhollah Khomeini died, Khamenei rose to power — despite not having the necessary chain of learned liturgical credentials to be leader.

He sees himself as the leader of Shi’ite Muslims worldwide, justifying his investments in the so-called axis of resistance — Hezbollah in Lebanon, Hamas in Gaza, and Shi’ite movements and militias in Iraq, Syria and Yemen.

The decapitation of those fronts in the war with Israel has led Iranians to question the investment in external forces instead of his own people, who have been left with record inflation and deteriorating living conditions. One chant heard on the streets of Iran sounded out: “No to Gaza, no to Lebanon, I’d give my life for Iran only.”


Straight from Mossad
 
Man it will be a major upheaval if there is a regime change in Iran since their revolution. 2026 seems to be starting with a bang.
 
lol if Indians spent this much time on their own self instead of spreading fake news they would have fixed most of their internal problems.

If you have an ounce of understanding of Aya Khamanei ideology, you would have known that he doesn’t run away. He came out in public to give speech during the 12 day war when Israel was openly threatening to kill him.

Indians are beyond stupid at this point. Stick to Bollywood, IPL and things you are great at: scam, rape and spreading fake news for 0.1 shekel.

Secondly, the protests have already ended.

 
The republic’s supreme leader has plotted an exit route out of Tehran should his forces fail to quell dissent, an intelligence report reveals

View attachment 160535
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei greeting a crowd during a ceremony in Tehran on Saturday
IRAN’S SUPREME LEADER OFFICE/EPA

Iran’s Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has a back-up plan to flee the country should his security forces fail to suppress protests or desert, according to an intelligence report shared with The Times.

Khamenei, 86, plans to escape Tehran with a close circle of up to 20 aides and family, should he see that the army and security called on to quell the unrest are deserting, defecting or failing to follow orders.

“The ‘plan B’ is for Khamenei and his very close circle of associates and family, including his son and nominated heir apparent, Mojtaba,” an intelligence source told The Times.

Beni Sabti, who served for decades in Israeli intelligence after fleeing the regime eight years after the Islamic revolution, told The Times that Khamenei would flee to Moscow as “there is no other place for him”.

Inside Iran protests that threaten regime: ‘This is the final battle’

Khamenei also “admires Putin, while the Iranian culture is more similar to the Russian culture”.

The getaway plan is based on the escape of his ally, the fallen Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad who fled Damascus aboard a plane to Moscow to join his family before opposition forces stormed the capital in December 2024.

View attachment 160536

“They have plotted an exit route out of Tehran should they feel the need to escape,” which includes “gathering assets, properties abroad and cash to facilitate their safe passage”, the source said.

Khamenei is known to hold a major network of assets, some under one of the most powerful organisations in Iran, Setad — part of a system of semi-state charitable foundations known for their financial obfuscation. Estimates put the total holdings at $95 billion, according to a Reuters investigation in 2013, including properties and companies, all held and controlled by Khamenei.

Many of his closest aides, including the secretary of Iran’s supreme national security council, Ali Larijani — who warned President Trump to stay out of Tehran’s affairs — have family members already living abroad, including in the US, Canada and Dubai.

Nationwide protests triggered by economic hardships have gripped cities across Iran, including in the holy city of Qom, over the last week.

View attachment 160537

Protesters accuse anti-riot forces — made up of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), the Basij militia, the police and the army — of using violent means including live fire, tear gas and water cannons to suppress the demonstrations.


The forces are under the total command of Khameini, who is the supreme source of power in the Islamic republic, overruling the army, courts and media. He relies on the IRGC to enforce his bidding as a central source of power.

The escape plan will be activated should Khamenei feel his security forces are not following orders. Desertion and defection are not easily undertaken, with Khamenei protecting loyalists, controlling key appointments and their safety, according to a psychological profile of the leader done by a western intelligence agency and seen by The Times.

But the same assessment said Khamenei was “weaker, both mentally and physically” since last year’s 12-day war with Israel. He has barely been seen in public and, notably, has not been seen or heard from during the last several days of protests. For the duration of war, Khamenei holed up in a bunker, avoiding the fate of several other high-level IRGC officials and feeding his “obsession with survival”.

The assessment calls him a “paranoid” leader, a trait that shaped his plan to leave Iran should his forces desert him. “On one hand, he is very ideologically motivated, but on the other he is pragmatic in what he sees: he sees tactical compromise for long-term greater cause. He is a long-term thinker,” the assessment read.

Khamenei was born in Mashhad in 1939 to a family of religious clerics, from Azeri-Turkish origins. When he was young, he was interested in poetry, Persian and Western music, and literature, reading classics including by Tolstoy and Steinbeck.

Under the rule of Iran’s last shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Khamenei joined the opposition. He was arrested several times and tortured by the Savak secret police, and in 1981 survived an assassination attempt that resulted in the loss of the use of one of his hands.

According to the assessment, the assassination attempt solidified a sense of “divine mission” to lead Iran in its mission to oppose Israel and the west, and preserve the regime above all else. After the revolution, he became deputy defence minister and member of council before becoming president. When the former supreme leader Ruhollah Khomeini died, Khamenei rose to power — despite not having the necessary chain of learned liturgical credentials to be leader.

He sees himself as the leader of Shi’ite Muslims worldwide, justifying his investments in the so-called axis of resistance — Hezbollah in Lebanon, Hamas in Gaza, and Shi’ite movements and militias in Iraq, Syria and Yemen.

The decapitation of those fronts in the war with Israel has led Iranians to question the investment in external forces instead of his own people, who have been left with record inflation and deteriorating living conditions. One chant heard on the streets of Iran sounded out: “No to Gaza, no to Lebanon, I’d give my life for Iran only.”



Lets imagine that US Forces enter Iran, kidnap him and charge him in a US Court, he gets convicted and dies in a US Prison.

So what?
 
lol if Indians spent this much time on their own self instead of spreading fake news they would have fixed most of their internal problems.

If you have an ounce of understanding of Aya Khamanei ideology, you would have known that he doesn’t run away. He came out in public to give speech during the 12 day war when Israel was openly threatening to kill him.

Indians are beyond stupid at this point. Stick to Bollywood, IPL and things you are great at: scam, rape and spreading fake news for 0.1 shekel.

Secondly, the protests have already ended.


Whatever sanghis write should always be verified.

They are pathological liars.
 
Should move to India, apparently India is heaven for fugitive now a days.
Even though he is obviously Iranian/Persian origin, His most recent ancestors actually moved/ migrated back from Uttar Pradesh after living in India for centuries.

Technically since it was pre-partition India he is eligible for Pakistan citizenship.

Isn’t he considered a “Islamic” hero in Pakistan?

However I am 💯 sure he would rather prefer to be oppressed under Hindutva India than live high on the happiness index in Islamic Pakistan. I can guarantee that there will be more life threats to him in Pak (not just from USA etc but local maulanas) than in India where also he does have some following among a certain group of Muslims.


 
Even though he is obviously Iranian/Persian origin, His most recent ancestors actually moved/ migrated back from Uttar Pradesh after living in India for centuries.

Technically since it was pre-partition India he is eligible for Pakistan citizenship.

Isn’t he considered a “Islamic” hero in Pakistan?

However I am 💯 sure he would rather prefer to be oppressed under Hindutva India than live high on the happiness index in Islamic Pakistan. I can guarantee that there will be more life threats to him in Pak (not just from USA etc but local maulanas) than in India where also he does have some following among a certain group of Muslims.


I would be careful assuming that. He is a strong proponent of freeing Kashmiris from oppression. Hindutva will not like him.
 
Even though he is obviously Iranian/Persian origin, His most recent ancestors actually moved/ migrated back from Uttar Pradesh after living in India for centuries.

Technically since it was pre-partition India he is eligible for Pakistan citizenship.

Isn’t he considered a “Islamic” hero in Pakistan?

However I am 💯 sure he would rather prefer to be oppressed under Hindutva India than live high on the happiness index in Islamic Pakistan. I can guarantee that there will be more life threats to him in Pak (not just from USA etc but local maulanas) than in India where also he does have some following among a certain group of Muslims.



So is that yes or no on hosting him in India?
 
lol if Indians spent this much time on their own self instead of spreading fake news they would have fixed most of their internal problems.

If you have an ounce of understanding of Aya Khamanei ideology, you would have known that he doesn’t run away. He came out in public to give speech during the 12 day war when Israel was openly threatening to kill him.

Indians are beyond stupid at this point. Stick to Bollywood, IPL and things you are great at: scam, rape and spreading fake news for 0.1 shekel.

Secondly, the protests have already ended.


My dear summer child,
You don’t seem to have a clear understanding of how India’s foreign policy actually operates across different regions.

With much of the Muslim world, India is not bound by ideological alignment. The bedrock of these relationships has always been deep, historic, and contemporary people-to-people ties, not shared theology or political systems. Iran is a prime example. Despite being a theocratic regime with many flaws, its leadership understood this reality and treated India with a level of respect shaped by history, culture, and strategic pragmatism. As a result, relations remained fairly stable and functional over many years.

Even in the event of regime change, where a more US-aligned leadership were to emerge in Tehran, alignment would not be seamless. Structural differences would remain. Yet India-Iran ties have always had an independent gravity of their own. They do not depend on transient governments alone; they are anchored in civilizational memory, trade, culture, and mutual strategic interest.

Iran will not antagonize India, certainly not for Pakistan’s sake. That would run counter to its long-term interests. Iran is a rational and strategically mature nation, fully aware of where its enduring partnerships lie.
 
My dear summer child,
You don’t seem to have a clear understanding of how India’s foreign policy actually operates across different regions.

With much of the Muslim world, India is not bound by ideological alignment. The bedrock of these relationships has always been deep, historic, and contemporary people-to-people ties, not shared theology or political systems. Iran is a prime example. Despite being a theocratic regime with many flaws, its leadership understood this reality and treated India with a level of respect shaped by history, culture, and strategic pragmatism. As a result, relations remained fairly stable and functional over many years.

Even in the event of regime change, where a more US-aligned leadership were to emerge in Tehran, alignment would not be seamless. Structural differences would remain. Yet India-Iran ties have always had an independent gravity of their own. They do not depend on transient governments alone; they are anchored in civilizational memory, trade, culture, and mutual strategic interest.

Iran will not antagonize India, certainly not for Pakistan’s sake. That would run counter to its long-term interests. Iran is a rational and strategically mature nation, fully aware of where its enduring partnerships lie.
The hell?

What does my response have to do with India’s relationship with Iran? I simply replied that Indians spent way too much time spreading fake news. This was in response to the usual suspects posting news about Aya Khamanei plan to escape.

Are you dyslexic?
 
The hell?

What does my response have to do with India’s relationship with Iran? I simply replied that Indians spent way too much time spreading fake news. This was in response to the usual suspects posting news about Aya Khamanei plan to escape.

Are you dyslexic?
No brother he is dharmic.
 
The hell?

What does my response have to do with India’s relationship with Iran? I simply replied that Indians spent way too much time spreading fake news. This was in response to the usual suspects posting news about Aya Khamanei plan to escape.

Are you dyslexic?

You do not know Iran. Have you even been there? Indo-Persian ties go back centuries. People there are fond of India and have resisted Pakistani propaganda for decades.

Only place this thing works is backward Bangladesh which is an abomination for a nation currently and might not exist in the near future to be very frank.
 
You do not know Iran. Have you even been there? Indo-Persian ties go back centuries. People there are fond of India and have resisted Pakistani propaganda for decades.

Only place this thing works is backward Bangladesh which is an abomination for a nation currently and might not exist in the near future to be very frank.
lol oh do I not know Iran? you r in for a surprise
 
I’m gonna wake up tomorrow morning and Reza Pahlavi will be the Shah of Iran.

China and Russia will do jack…

Kinda sucks to see US winning
 
Another Muslim country Iran is on the brink of bankruptcy..... their currency fallen.... Trump wants to reinstate democracy in Iran
 
Even though he is obviously Iranian/Persian origin, His most recent ancestors actually moved/ migrated back from Uttar Pradesh after living in India for centuries.

Technically since it was pre-partition India he is eligible for Pakistan citizenship.

Isn’t he considered a “Islamic” hero in Pakistan?

However I am 💯 sure he would rather prefer to be oppressed under Hindutva India than live high on the happiness index in Islamic Pakistan. I can guarantee that there will be more life threats to him in Pak (not just from USA etc but local maulanas) than in India where also he does have some following among a certain group of Muslims.




Ok you convinced me.

He's all yours, hope he enjoys his stay in Dehli.
 
Even though he is obviously Iranian/Persian origin, His most recent ancestors actually moved/ migrated back from Uttar Pradesh after living in India for centuries.

Technically since it was pre-partition India he is eligible for Pakistan citizenship.

Isn’t he considered a “Islamic” hero in Pakistan?

However I am 💯 sure he would rather prefer to be oppressed under Hindutva India than live high on the happiness index in Islamic Pakistan. I can guarantee that there will be more life threats to him in Pak (not just from USA etc but local maulanas) than in India where also he does have some following among a certain group of Muslims.


Please take him back into Uttar Pradesh, the world will be a far better place with being in India!

Ok you convinced me.

He's all yours, hope he enjoys his stay in Dehli.
:)
 
I don't think so Khamenei will escape Iran like that.
The Sanghees are so confused that they are mixing two people:
  1. Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini (1990-1998): His ancestors possibly stayed in India...
  2. Ali Hosseini Khamenei: Nothing to do with India...
Me neither.

It can turn into a war, however.
I don't think so either but Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini (1990-1998) stayed in exile for 14 years so never know.

Tonight will be make or break for Khameini.
This cannot last too long...
 
More protests erupt in Iran as supreme leader accuses crowds of ‘trying to please Trump’

Fresh anti-government protests have erupted across Iran for a 13th consecutive day, as Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei lashed out at demonstrators, accusing them of acting to “please” US President Donald Trump. The unrest, which began in Tehran on 28 December, was initially triggered by the collapse of the Iranian currency but has since evolved into broader demonstrations against the country’s clerical leadership.

In a strongly worded response, Khamenei dismissed the protesters as “a bunch of vandals” and warned that authorities would not tolerate what he described as foreign-backed attempts to destabilise the country. His remarks came amid rising international attention, after Trump threatened to “hit Iran very hard” if government forces began killing protesters.

The protests have continued despite a nationwide internet blackout that has severely limited communication inside the country. Iranian officials say the restrictions are necessary to prevent unrest, while rights groups argue they are aimed at silencing dissent. With international media barred from reporting inside Iran, footage circulating on social media and satellite services such as Starlink has become a key source of information, showing cars set ablaze and clashes in several cities, including Tehran and Zahedan.

Adding to the political pressure, Reza Pahlavi — the exiled son of Iran’s last shah — has called on Trump to be “prepared to intervene” in support of the Iranian people. Pahlavi, who lives in the United States, has urged Iranians to take to the streets and claims growing chants in his favour suggest increasing support for change, though this remains difficult to verify.

Iran’s Supreme National Security Council has vowed “no leniency” toward what it calls saboteurs, accusing the US and Israel of exploiting economic grievances to incite violence. Analysts say the protests are among the most widespread since 2022, fuelled by economic hardship, political repression, and deep frustration with unaccountable leadership, as many Iranians feel they have little left to lose.

 
Why do you think that? :inti
Whenever regime cuts internet it means something major is on the cards.
They cut it yesterday and protestors caused some damage. Today the regime has called them terrorist, pro regime protesters have came into the streets too. There will have been speeches in mosques.

If there is any major protest today I think regime and religious supproters will go after the protestors in a big way.
 
I have always wondered why Israel is so obsessed with Iran. Iran and Israel are far from each other. Israel also have no claim over Iranian land.

Then I remember this hadith. It makes more sense when I read the hadith. Maybe we can deduce what Israel's ultimate goal in Iran is.

Isfahan is of course in modern day Iran.

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Whenever regime cuts internet it means something major is on the cards.
They cut it yesterday and protestors caused some damage. Today the regime has called them terrorist, pro regime protesters have came into the streets too. There will have been speeches in mosques.

If there is any major protest today I think regime and religious supproters will go after the protestors in a big way.
They do that in Pakistan all the time and India. First thing they cut off is communications.

If you carefully see the pictures, they aren't mass protests in any one place but small numbers causing damage spread across wider geographic area. This is one big PsyOp. What you will see is that increasingly, the religious and non religious elements facing off. This is a pretext to maybe launching an attack on regime by Trump maybe?

I am not a fan of Iranian regime, so seeing the humiliated is not a bad thing, but overall instability is not good thing for Pakistan as it could spill over in Pakistan and if they manage to topple Iranian regime, it will be a boost for India as sanctions on Iran and Chabahar will be lifted. So in a selfish way, come on fight it out the Mullahs!!
 
Tonight will be make or break for Khameini.
Yes it does seem that way. They'll have to murder a few thousands to stay in control.

Iran has always been one of the few dictatorial regimes unwilling to murder it's people en masse. Hundreds yes... especially the wrong kind - women, liberals etc. but not thousands. This time it's mainstream folks - shopkeepers, traders etc. I'd like to think the Iranian regime would be unwilling to go that far but the lure of power can make folks break every last principle.
 
They do that in Pakistan all the time and India. First thing they cut off is communications.

If you carefully see the pictures, they aren't mass protests in any one place but small numbers causing damage spread across wider geographic area. This is one big PsyOp. What you will see is that increasingly, the religious and non religious elements facing off. This is a pretext to maybe launching an attack on regime by Trump maybe?

I am not a fan of Iranian regime, so seeing the humiliated is not a bad thing, but overall instability is not good thing for Pakistan as it could spill over in Pakistan and if they manage to topple Iranian regime, it will be a boost for India as sanctions on Iran and Chabahar will be lifted. So in a selfish way, come on fight it out the Mullahs!!
If the protests are organic I'm not too fussed about whether the regime stays or goes. They have had a long run and their people deserve for their voice to be heard regardless of the international ramifications.

We mustn't forget thst there are probably more conservative regime loyalists though so it won't be easy that they are completely overthrown, perhaps some concessions made.

Iran has a principled ideological stance ( or so they think) but it must grate on their population that they alone seem to be pushing back against Israel and America, recieving sanctions, hyperinflation and bombing in return, whereas most other countries are shaking their hand, doing deals and making merry.

A poor trader who can no longer afford to buy goods or whose goods are no longer affordable will be scratching his head wondering what the hell he has gained from this stance.
 
Yes it does seem that way. They'll have to murder a few thousands to stay in control.

Iran has always been one of the few dictatorial regimes unwilling to murder it's people en masse. Hundreds yes... especially the wrong kind - women, liberals etc. but not thousands. This time it's mainstream folks - shopkeepers, traders etc. I'd like to think the Iranian regime would be unwilling to go that far but the lure of power can make folks break every last principle.
The language is more charged now. They have shifted from aknowledging the protests to now painting the protesters as American stooges. This gives them cover to go and shed blood. I think it will get very serious, or of course it could be like Pakistan and people think they would rather stick with the status quo and it's not worth the clashes.
 
So regime change attack is pretty much confirmed. The date being given is by the end of the month and may come as early as next week.
I am not big support of any regime that doesn't have deep route in the public consciousness but if Iran goes into chaos to stop the threat to Israel, then it needs to take Israel and The Western proxies ie like UAE and Qatar down with them.
Hopefully better sense will prevail and there is no loss of life in any country
 
Please take him back into Uttar Pradesh, the world will be a far better place with being in India!


:)
So you are ok if Iran goes back from Islamic shariah state to secular Persia 🤷‍♂️? Him being given refuge in India is a different debate and said in a lighter vein mostly but this intrigues me more 🤔
 
The language is more charged now. They have shifted from aknowledging the protests to now painting the protesters as American stooges. This gives them cover to go and shed blood. I think it will get very serious, or of course it could be like Pakistan and people think they would rather stick with the status quo and it's not worth the clashes.
There is definitely an element of Mossad and CIA in the protests along with genuine anger at the inflation.
 
There is definitely an element of Mossad and CIA in the protests along with genuine anger at the inflation.
Yeah. Didn't some American senator also shout out the Mosssd agents on the ground. They are not totally organic but there is a considerable amount of average Joe's that are fed up with these Babay being in power for 50 years.
 
Yeah. Didn't some American senator also shout out the Mosssd agents on the ground. They are not totally organic but there is a considerable amount of average Joe's that are fed up with these Babay being in power for 50 years.
Iran needs reforms and get back to its routes in the people. Iran and Israel were allies under the Shah and the west wasn't worried about democracy when that dictatorship suited them.
 
The language is more charged now. They have shifted from aknowledging the protests to now painting the protesters as American stooges. This gives them cover to go and shed blood. I think it will get very serious, or of course it could be like Pakistan and people think they would rather stick with the status quo and it's not worth the clashes.
They've got to use the language in order to be able to fight the protests. They've been pretty restrained so far though - 45 deaths according to CNN. Small numbers in a protest supression. The Mahsa Amini protest casualties were far worse.

It's going to get worse before it gets better as you say. I'm not a big fan of the Iranian regime...I dislike any involvement of religion in State policy and this is absurdly religious as it gets.

However, it's tough to see anything but utter chaos resulting if this regime collapses.
 
If the protests are organic I'm not too fussed about whether the regime stays or goes. They have had a long run and their people deserve for their voice to be heard regardless of the international ramifications.

We mustn't forget thst there are probably more conservative regime loyalists though so it won't be easy that they are completely overthrown, perhaps some concessions made.

Iran has a principled ideological stance ( or so they think) but it must grate on their population that they alone seem to be pushing back against Israel and America, recieving sanctions, hyperinflation and bombing in return, whereas most other countries are shaking their hand, doing deals and making merry.

A poor trader who can no longer afford to buy goods or whose goods are no longer affordable will be scratching his head wondering what the hell he has gained from this stance.

Iranian people are stuck between a rock and a hard place. The authorities is crippled by sanctions so this reflects on their economy, but if they get regime change orchestrated by America, well you just have to look at Libya and Iraq to see how that will end.
 
Lets imagine that US Forces enter Iran, kidnap him and charge him in a US Court, he gets convicted and dies in a US Prison.

So what?
I don't think Venezuela type stunt cannot happen with Iran. If any, Khomeni will flee to Russia or China before stuff hits the fan. :mv
 
lol if Indians spent this much time on their own self instead of spreading fake news they would have fixed most of their internal problems.

If you have an ounce of understanding of Aya Khamanei ideology, you would have known that he doesn’t run away. He came out in public to give speech during the 12 day war when Israel was openly threatening to kill him.

Indians are beyond stupid at this point. Stick to Bollywood, IPL and things you are great at: scam, rape and spreading fake news for 0.1 shekel.

Secondly, the protests have already ended.

Times isn’t sn indian news outlet while you tely on geo tv
 
Iranian people are stuck between a rock and a hard place. The authorities is crippled by sanctions so this reflects on their economy, but if they get regime change orchestrated by America, well you just have to look at Libya and Iraq to see how that will end.
I think their best bet is a setup like Iraq. Subservient to the west and low profile but not too repressive.

I think it could be delivered if the Ayatollah abdicates and hands over power to the civilian government. Pezeshkian strikes me as someone who'd be happy with that setup.

Tough for the virtually senile Khamenei to give up the total power of life and death he enjoys over the people of Iran I guess.

Maybe if he does mysteriously?
 
Iranian people are stuck between a rock and a hard place. The authorities is crippled by sanctions so this reflects on their economy, but if they get regime change orchestrated by America, well you just have to look at Libya and Iraq to see how that will end.
The people may be hating a dictatorship and wanting a change, y think it will be libya, it may be a change for betterment
 
I have always wondered why Israel is so obsessed with Iran. Iran and Israel are far from each other. Israel also have no claim over Iranian land.

Then I remember this hadith. It makes more sense when I read the hadith. Maybe we can deduce what Israel's ultimate goal in Iran is.

Isfahan is of course in modern day Iran.

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So you are saying Israel believes in Quran and Hadiths and trying its best to hate Iran and finish it off? :clown

Israel has nothing to do with Iran. It was Iran that has vowed to take out Israel ever since the Mullah regime has taken over Iran in 1979. :mv
 
Iran needs reforms and get back to its routes in the people. Iran and Israel were allies under the Shah and the west wasn't worried about democracy when that dictatorship suited them.
Shah was a persian who didn’t persecute his people on small religious pretexts
 
I think their best bet is a setup like Iraq. Subservient to the west and low profile but not too repressive.

I think it could be delivered if the Ayatollah abdicates and hands over power tpo the civilian government. Pezeshkian strikes me as someone who'd be happy with that setup.

Tough for the virtually senile Khamenei to give up the total power of life and death he enjoys over the people of Iran I guess.

Maybe if he does mysteriously?

Not sure if israel will be happy with a subservient Iran, it is a powerful nation. They might want to see it degraded structurally and militarily to the point where the israelis can continue their expansion with less disturbance.
 
Not sure if israel will be happy with a subservient Iran, it is a powerful nation. They might want to see it degraded structurally and militarily to the point where the israelis can continue their expansion with less disturbance.
Yes that's true. It's very tough to see a relatively peaceful resolution to this.

One hope for the Iranians is that Israel so believes it's thoroughly degraded their nuclear and missile capabilities in the recent attacks that it's willing to let them them work out their fate for themselves.

No Ayatollah and Mullahs but still a relatively religious State with openness to the rest of the world. That's what I'd expect most Iranians want. Maybe a Pakistani model?
 
I don't think Venezuela type stunt cannot happen with Iran. If any, Khomeni will flee to Russia or China before stuff hits the fan. :mv
Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini (1990-1998) died long ago!

I believe that Ali Khamenei may retire or step aside for the betterment of Iran and that won't be a bad thing due to his age.
 
Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini (1990-1998) died long ago!

I believe that Ali Khamenei may retire or step aside for the betterment of Iran and that won't be a bad thing due to his age.
Would be a good thing for Iran and the world. He's clung leach like to power for 20+ years now and is a lot older than his ideological buddies Trump and Putin.
 
Iranian people are stuck between a rock and a hard place. The authorities is crippled by sanctions so this reflects on their economy, but if they get regime change orchestrated by America, well you just have to look at Libya and Iraq to see how that will end.
When foreign interests are allowed to shape a country’s internal direction, the result is never stability. Core institutions gradually erode, governance weakens, and public trust collapses. What follows isn’t accidental chaos, it’s sustained disorder, quietly fueled from the outside because instability serves external agendas better than a strong, independent state.
 
Every year you all come here with same stuff and every year it’s the same result. You would think at least Pakistani posters would get the trend but na.
Literally, this goes on every year and each time Indian posters keep repeating it will b different this time and yet get egg faced.

At least learn few things about that region. look at the size of the country, the terrain, geographical location, multi ethnicity, the population.

Do you even understand the Wilayat Faqih system? How a Supreme leader is picked? What happens if the current one dies or get compromised?
I swear some of you are thinking that US will come throw bombs, assassinate or kidnap the leader and then the streets will be filled with liberal class cheering for freedom.

This is to hopefully make stupid, low IQ Indians understand that let’s say if country X kills or assassinates Modi, would that collapse the whole country? Obviously not as there is a system in place for such a situation. But you all are either beyond retarded or paid. Otherwise, I refuse to accept that you believe this every year.
 
Every year you all come here with same stuff and every year it’s the same result. You would think at least Pakistani posters would get the trend but na.
Literally, this goes on every year and each time Indian posters keep repeating it will b different this time and yet get egg faced.

At least learn few things about that region. look at the size of the coun
I swear some of you are thinking that US will come throw bombs, assassinate or kidnap the leader and then the streets will be filled with liberal class cheering for freedom.

This is to hopefully make stupid, low IQ Indians understand that let’s say if country X kills or assassinates Modi, would that collapse the whole country? Obviously not as there is a system in place for such a situation. But you all are either beyond retarded or paid. Otherwise, I refuse to accept that you believe this every year.
Agreed, most people have not looked at the geography or terrain of Iran.

It is not possible for US or Israel to invade Iran and do a coup and that isn't going to happen. Iran isn't going to collapse even if Ali Khamenei or IRGC command get decapitated.

Just because Iranians stop wearing the Chador, doesn't mean they will become 1960s hippies, that won't happen either.

Proud Persian heritage and culture older then America isn't going to give way...
 
Agreed, most people have not looked at the geography or terrain of Iran.

It is not possible for US or Israel to invade Iran and do a coup and that isn't going to happen. Iran isn't going to collapse even if Ali Khamenei or IRGC command get decapitated.

Just because Iranians stop wearing the Chador, doesn't mean they will become 1960s hippies, that won't happen either.

Proud Persian heritage and culture older then America isn't going to give way...

I believe Iran is very mountainous. That's a defense advantage during war.
 
Statement of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Islamic Republic of Iran on the current domestic developments in Iran


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Since when did random X accounts become reliable news feeds ?
Iranian government issued a blackout of the internet. Where else do you expect people to get information from? Of course lot of disinformation online too but that doesn’t mean this is not an alternative.

Till a couple of days ago BBC- CNN type sources were not covering these protests much. people were calling it propaganda but clearly things escalated and got real now.
 
Reza Pahlavi, the US-based son of Iran’s ousted shah, hailed the “magnificent” turnout on Friday and urged Iranians to stage more targeted protests this Saturday and Sunday with the aim of taking and then holding city centers.

“Our goal is no longer just to take to the streets. The goal is to prepare to seize and hold city centres,” Pahlavi said in a video message on social media.

Pahlavi, whose father Mohammad Reza Pahlavi was ousted by the 1979 revolution and died in 1980, added he was also “preparing to return to my homeland” at a time that he believed was “very near.”

Activists have expressed concern that the internet shutdown could mask repression by authorities, and the Norway-based Iran Human Rights group has said at least 51 people have been killed in the crackdown so far.

Iranian Nobel Peace Prize winner Shirin Ebadi warned on Friday that security forces could be preparing to commit a “massacre under the cover of a sweeping communications blackout.”

Authorities say several members of the security forces have been killed, and Khamenei in a defiant speech on Friday lashed out at “vandals” and vowed the Islamic republic would “not back down.”

He blamed the US for stoking the unrest in comments echoed by several other Iranian officials.

US President Donald Trump again refused on Friday to rule out new military action against Iran after Washington backed and joined Israel’s 12-day war against the Islamic republic in June.

“Iran’s in big trouble. It looks to me that the people are taking over certain cities that nobody thought were really possible just a few weeks ago,” Trump said.

Asked about his message to Iran’s leaders, Trump said: “You better not start shooting because we’ll start shooting too.”

 
Every year you all come here with same stuff and every year it’s the same result. You would think at least Pakistani posters would get the trend but na.
Literally, this goes on every year and each time Indian posters keep repeating it will b different this time and yet get egg faced.

At least learn few things about that region. look at the size of the country, the terrain, geographical location, multi ethnicity, the population.

Do you even understand the Wilayat Faqih system? How a Supreme leader is picked? What happens if the current one dies or get compromised?
I swear some of you are thinking that US will come throw bombs, assassinate or kidnap the leader and then the streets will be filled with liberal class cheering for freedom.

This is to hopefully make stupid, low IQ Indians understand that let’s say if country X kills or assassinates Modi, would that collapse the whole country? Obviously not as there is a system in place for such a situation. But you all are either beyond retarded or paid. Otherwise, I refuse to accept that you believe this every year.
What do you want personally? Do you think this regime should go and replace with a more liberal progressive government?
 
I strongly oppose Iran’s current ruling system with decades of repression, extremism, corruption, and especially the regime’s brutal treatment of women have destroyed its legitimacy. The leadership has also shown deep incompetence, as seen by how exposed and vulnerable it has become on the international stage.

At the same time, I do not support foreign backed or opportunistic factions trying to hijack this moment, whether they are Israeli-aligned groups, exiled elites, or Shah-nostalgia movements. Iran’s future should not be decided by outside powers or by disconnected elites, but by the Iranian people themselves.

History shows that externally driven “regime change” almost always leads to chaos, not democracy. A power vacuum risks militias, warlords, and foreign interests taking control rather than ordinary citizens.

The recent protests reflect both genuine public anger and the presence of destabilising actors, including those who burn property, masjids and create disorder. That kind of chaos only harms the people and weakens legitimate calls for reform.

What Iran needs is a stable, people-led transition, not theocratic rule, not foreign puppets, and not a return to authoritarianism under a different name.
 
What do you want personally? Do you think this regime should go and replace with a more liberal progressive government?
Not at all.

The government should stay and address the legitimate concerns of people who are protesting.
Swift end to riots.
Public property damage, attacking places of worship and offices should be dealt with the appropriate punishments.

The current government benefits India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, China, Russia- albeit in different ways.

Current Iran provides stability to the region- despite whatever differences you have with the theocracy.
 
I strongly oppose Iran’s current ruling system with decades of repression, extremism, corruption, and especially the regime’s brutal treatment of women have destroyed its legitimacy. The leadership has also shown deep incompetence, as seen by how exposed and vulnerable it has become on the international stage.

At the same time, I do not support foreign backed or opportunistic factions trying to hijack this moment, whether they are Israeli-aligned groups, exiled elites, or Shah-nostalgia movements. Iran’s future should not be decided by outside powers or by disconnected elites, but by the Iranian people themselves.

History shows that externally driven “regime change” almost always leads to chaos, not democracy. A power vacuum risks militias, warlords, and foreign interests taking control rather than ordinary citizens.

The recent protests reflect both genuine public anger and the presence of destabilising actors, including those who burn property, masjids and create disorder. That kind of chaos only harms the people and weakens legitimate calls for reform.

What Iran needs is a stable, people-led transition, not theocratic rule, not foreign puppets, and not a return to authoritarianism under a different name.
POTW right there.
 
Iranian government issued a blackout of the internet. Where else do you expect people to get information from? Of course lot of disinformation online too but that doesn’t mean this is not an alternative.

Till a couple of days ago BBC- CNN type sources were not covering these protests much. people were calling it propaganda but clearly things escalated and got real now.
It's not just here but every current events thread on TP that gets littered with posts from dubious social media accounts. It's about time a rule is implemented that only links from reputable, fact checked sources are allowed.
 
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