Overseas Pakistanis - Will you put "your money where your mouth is" & contribute to Imran Khan?

[Hermoine Green]

Just worry about the time when this stops and locals have to work harder.

He wont worry. He is a rich dude, will run away to UK or US
Locals should check what happened in some days when overseas started to took out their money.

 

[Major]

Shameless, isn't it?
But then again, isn't that what beggars are, to begin with?

?? Shameless? Thats the rule. I dint make it.

You want to vote hop on the next plane, spend some money and vote if you are a registered voter

 

[MenInG]

?? Shameless? Thats the rule. I dint make it.

You want to vote hop on the next plane, spend some money and vote if you are a registered voter

To be honest, what Major is saying makes sense as it is what it is!

 

[Major]

Just worry about the time when this stops and locals have to work harder.

This aint gonna stop. It will continue. Overseas will continue to send money to their families no matter what nothing can stop this unless embasseys are closed.

Besides, in terms increase mnas, we have mor important issues than overseas. Like doing population count and adjust mna seats on those basis

 

[Hermoine Green]

To be honest, what Major is saying makes sense as it is what it is!

Then our country shouldnt be asking any kind of single penny from you guys. No remittances what so ever.

As you arent living in Pakistan. It makes sense too

If our awaam dont want you to vote, then our govt have no rights to ask anything from you guys.

 

[daytrader]

British High Commissioner Dr Christian Turner also called on Interior Minister Rana Sanaullah Khan

Rana Sanaullah said Pakistan values its bilateral relations with the United Kingdom and Islamabad appreciates the role of the British government in promoting health education and human development in Pakistan.

He said there was a lot potential between Pakistan and UK in tourism trade and business opportunities. Pak-UK bilateral relations, emerging geographical political and regional issues were discussed during the meeting.

The British high commissioner congratulated Rana Sanaullah Khan on assuming the office of interior minister. The two sides also agreed to strengthen ties between the Home Office and the British Home Office to promote bilateral relations.

Rana Sanaullah said that Pakistanis diaspora in UK playing an important role in the development of the country. On the occasion the British High Commissioner said that 75 years have passed since the establishment of diplomatic relations between Pakistan and the United Kingdom and the role of British citizens of Pakistani origin in strengthening bilateral relations is very enviable. He said that a joint strategy was needed to tackle extremism and terrorism.
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/956875-no-internal-external-conspiracy-can-harm-pak-china-ties-sana

 

[shortbread]

Just worry about the time when this stops and locals have to work harder.

And what then? Expats watch and rejoice seeing their families starve to death?! People need to get a reality check.

Individuals fly away from their families and work in godforsaken conditions in places like the Middle East for a better way of life, not because whichever leader is having a fit over political rivalries.

New saviours come and turn into incumbent despots before being thrown out by whatever means. Then the cycle repeats itself.

Irrespective of whose in power people continue to work and survive.

 

[MenInG]

The minister told reporters that the cabinet approved the revocation of multiple foreign passports under Passport Act, 1974. The ministers stressed that such passports should not only be revoked but also a strategy should be formulated to prevent their use in future, she added.

“Last date for the cancellation of dual foreign passport is December 31 of this year. Till the date all procedural and administrative arrangements will be finalised to take legal action against dual foreign passport holders,” Aurangzeb said.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2356072/holding-multiple-foreign-passports-banned

 

[Mamoon]

Just worry about the time when this stops and locals have to work harder.

Overseas Pakistanis send money to their families; not to do “ehsaan” on Pakistan’s economy.

So they will continue to do that regardless of who is in power.

 

[MenInG]

Overseas Pakistanis send money to their families; not to do “ehsaan” on Pakistan’s economy.

So they will continue to do that regardless of who is in power.

Ok so this is progress.

Overseas Pakistanis help their families to the tune of $32Bn, they therefore hold some stake in this country too.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Overseas Pakistanis send money to their families; not to do “ehsaan” on Pakistan’s economy.

So they will continue to do that regardless of who is in power.

But it does do "ehsaan" on the economy whether intended or not. All that cash ends up being spent in Pakistan for the most part, and that money circulates throughout and impacts businesses and livelihood through every level as a result. Don't think it goes unappreciated either, the vast majority of people in Pakistan aren't there to sing and dance hymns to India and Arsenal.

 

[MenInG]

But it does do "ehsaan" on the economy whether intended or not. All that cash ends up being spent in Pakistan for the most part, and that money circulates throughout and impacts businesses and livelihood through every level as a result. Don't think it goes unappreciated either, the vast majority of people in Pakistan aren't there to sing and dance hymns to India and Arsenal.

How many lives in Pakistan are effected by these contributions? I can understand the panic amongst the corrupt.

 

[Mamoon]

Ok so this is progress.

Overseas Pakistanis help their families to the tune of $32Bn, they therefore hold some stake in this country too.

But it does do "ehsaan" on the economy whether intended or not. All that cash ends up being spent in Pakistan for the most part, and that money circulates throughout and impacts businesses and livelihood through every level as a result. Don't think it goes unappreciated either, the vast majority of people in Pakistan aren't there to sing and dance hymns to India and Arsenal.

Overseas Pakistanis do not send money to boost the forex reserves, they send it to help their families. That is their intention and motive, and the fact that it is benefits the economy as well is a by-product.

If you are not living in Pakistan, you do not deserve to have voting rights. It is impressive to disenfranchise them.

If the government of Pakistan calls their bluff and scraps the dual citizenship policy, these fake Pakistanis will be exposed.

Hardly more than 10%, including the ones on this forum, will pick Pakistani citizenship over their foreign one. They claim to love Pakistan but their love is their foreign passports.

So if your loyalty and preference is another country than you clearly do not deserve to right to vote.

Secondly, we need to understand that remittance is just a first or second generation thing. If you moved to the west or if your parents did, you will have affiliation with Pakistan and will send money to your family back home.

However, your future generations will not be bothered to follow your footsteps because they will have no allegiance to Pakistan. They will be as interested in Pakistan as the Americans are in their European ancestry, so do such people deserve voting rights? Definitely no.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Overseas Pakistanis do not send money to boost the forex reserves, they send it to help their families. That is their intention and motive, and the fact that it is benefits the economy as well is a by-product.

If you are not living in Pakistan, you do not deserve to have voting rights. It is impressive to disenfranchise them.

If the government of Pakistan calls their bluff and scraps the dual citizenship policy, these fake Pakistanis will be exposed.

Hardly more than 10%, including the ones on this forum, will pick Pakistani citizenship over their foreign one. They claim to love Pakistan but their love is their foreign passports.

So if your loyalty and preference is another country than you clearly do not deserve to right to vote.

Secondly, we need to understand that remittance is just a first or second generation thing. If you moved to the west or if your parents did, you will have affiliation with Pakistan and will send money to your family back home.

However, your future generations will not be bothered to follow your footsteps because they will have no allegiance to Pakistan. They will be as interested in Pakistan as the Americans are in their European ancestry, so do such people deserve voting rights? Definitely no.

Just to be clear, I don't want any vote in Pakistan, whether others do that is their business. I am just calling you out on this crap about our money not being some "ehsaan" for Pakistanis, it clearly is, whether you like it or not. Even if it is only family members who get to spend the wealth, they are still Pakistanis, and it is still your country where that wealth gets distributed, and most will appreciate it - even those who self confessedly hate their own country don't.

 

[Hermoine Green]

Overseas Pakistanis send money to their families; not to do “ehsaan” on Pakistan’s economy.

So they will continue to do that regardless of who is in power.

When a person have ZERO info of how economy works, pure example.

 

[Hermoine Green]

But the people who spent their whole lives in London, US, Saudia deserves to be made ministers in our country

Makes perfect sense.

 

[Mamoon]

When a person have ZERO info of how economy works, pure example.

When a person cannot understand simple English.

I am not talking about the impact of remittance on the economy; that has been discussed already. My point is that overseas Pakistanis do not sense money to Pakistan to help the economy - they send the money to help their relatives.

Yes that money is circulated within Pakistan and helps the economy but that is not their intention or their motive. Their intention is the well-being of their family that they have left in Pakistan. Henceforth, there is no need of doing “ehsaan” on the country.

Furthermore, these overseas Pakistanis (excluding the poor and majbur laborers in the Middle East and the taxi drivers etc.) have taken their skillsets, knowledge and expertise to benefit another country and do their ghulami, so sending money to Pakistan is the least that these doctors, engineers, accountants, bankers etc. can do to help their homeland that they left.

Think about the thousands of doctors who have graduated from public medical colleges in Pakistan and then settled in the West for good because they make more money.

The government of Pakistan spent money on their medical education only for them to provide their services to NHS or the US healthcare. So what was the point of spending money on them if they weren’t going to work in Pakistan?

When these people send money to Pakistan, they are not doing any favors, they are only repaying their debt.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

But the people who spent their whole lives in London, US, Saudia deserves to be made ministers in our country

Makes perfect sense.

Not to mention, looted the Pakistan treasury and used it to buy their vast estates in London and Dubai, most of these assets which will probably get frozen should they ever go against their masters in the west.

 

[Hermoine Green]

When a person cannot understand simple English.

I am not talking about the impact of remittance on the economy; that has been discussed already. My point is that overseas Pakistanis do not sense money to Pakistan to help the economy - they send the money to help their relatives.

Yes that money is circulated within Pakistan and helps the economy but that is not their intention or their motive. Their intention is the well-being of their family that they have left in Pakistan. Henceforth, there is no need of doing “ehsaan” on the country.

Furthermore, these overseas Pakistanis (excluding the poor and majbur laborers in the Middle East and the taxi drivers etc.) have taken their skillsets, knowledge and expertise to benefit another country and do their ghulami, so sending money to Pakistan is the least that these doctors, engineers, accountants, bankers etc. can do to help their homeland that they left.

Think about the thousands of doctors who have graduated from public medical colleges in Pakistan and then settled in the West for good because they make more money.

The government of Pakistan spent money on their medical education only for them to provide their services to NHS or the US healthcare. So what was the point of spending money on them if they weren’t going to work in Pakistan?

When these people send money to Pakistan, they are not doing any favors, they are only repaying their debt.

You have spoken true words, writing long essay wasnt even necessary Their money HELPS our economy and thats the point. Whatever is their intention, is doesnt bother. For example, PDM intentions are to safe Pakistan, but what is reality? LOL intentions.

And han lastly, no need to poke fun at those people who study in Pakistan but find jobs in abroad, and no need to call them Ghulam as well janab, because you were once in foreign too and you yourself mentioned it.

So better, dont try to give certificates of Ghulami to others. And btw, you are against Ghulami but you are in favour of your beloved leaders too ) Irony...

 

[daytrader]

Pakistanis in UK protesting outside Avenfield today
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[MenInG]

Remittance flows to Pakistan increased at an impressive 20 percent in 2021 to $31 billion, while in Bangladesh remittances grew by only 2.2 percent to $22 billion.

Growth in remittances was powered mainly by government incentives, support from migrants to their families back home, and inflows intended for Afghan refugees in Pakistan. High-frequency monthly data has marked a consistent downward trend since September 2021. Formally recorded remittances to Pakistan are likely to grow at eight percent to $34 billion in 2022.

https://www.brecorder.com/news/40172776/world-bank-projects-slowdown-in-remittances

 

[daytrader]

SC calls for speedy justice for overseas Pakistanis
Suggests a separate judicial system be established in the federation

ISLAMABAD:
The Supreme Court on Tuesday said that special steps should be taken to address the rights and legal grievances of overseas Pakistanis.

Justice Yahya Khan Afridi issued the directive while hearing a petition of an overseas Pakistani against the Peshawar High Court's judgement in a property dispute.

In his judgement, Justice Afridi observed the need of putting in place exclusive measures to dispense justice and removing the obstacles hindering the ability of overseas Pakistanis to pursue their cases effectively.

He regretted that the Pakistani nationals living abroad suffered greatly due to delayed justice as recourse to the legal options was not immediately available to them.

The judgement further suggested that the federation could set up a separate judicial system similar to the one established in Punjab, citing the example of Lahore High Court’s (LHC) special cell to address complaints of overseas Pakistanis. It added that the model could be replicated in the federation as well as in other provinces.

The steps taken by the LHC and the Punjab government are commendable, the judgement said.

“Therefore, we expect the federation and other provinces to take similar steps as the Punjab government,” the judgement said, directing that a copy of the order be sent to the registrars of all the high courts for appropriate action.

A copy of the decision would also be sent to the federal and provincial secretaries of law.

It is pertinent to note that last year the Punjab government decided to set up special courts to ensure that justice may be dispensed to the overseas Pakistanis at the earliest, besides considering proposals, including allowing them to record statements in their cases through video link.

The special courts were aimed at ensuring that the cases of overseas Pakistanis do not go through any inordinate delay and there will be a specific time frame for deciding each case.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2357296/sc-calls-for-speedy-justice-for-overseas-pakistanis

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I request all Pakistanis living in Pakistan and across the world to donate & support PTI's fight for Haqiqi Azadi. This is a struggle for a sovereign Pakistan - please play your part in this Jehad.<br> <a href="https://twitter.com/PTIKhurshidAlam?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PTIKhurshidAlam</a> is chairman of the PTI fundraising committee. <a href="https://t.co/CBmNKOtFLJ">pic.twitter.com/CBmNKOtFLJ</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1543079524493312000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 2, 2022</a></blockquote>
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[Cpt. Rishwat]

its very had to tell if your stupid or you act stupid or are you just an uneducated freshie who has comprehension issues
Osama bin laden being found in kpk and Imran khan calling Osama bin laden a Shaheed are 2 separate incidents
you can't mix both and make it out Imran khan isn't pro Osama bin Landen when he clearly called him a Shaheed

I don’t know if you were trying to be clever by pointing out that Imran Khan wasn’t ruling KPK in 2011,it doesn’t change the fact that Imran Khan publicly called Osama bin Laden a “shaheed” in 2020. That statement has nothing to do with who was in power in 2011, and bringing it up is just an attempt to distract the fact imran khan called osama bin laden shaheed.

or are you just stupid uneducated idiot who have comprehension issues.

You do realise that freshie is a term used for immigrants "fresh" off the boat right? You are an immigrant if I'm not mistaken.

 

[emranabbas]

You do realise that freshie is a term used for immigrants "fresh" off the boat right? You are an immigrant if I'm not mistaken.

unlike you I'm not fresh off the boat. I'm born and bred in UK

 

[HalBass9]

unlike you I'm not fresh off the boat. I'm born and bred in UK

Kindly stop talking about Pakistan. You’re UK born, let Pakistani born Pakistanis deal with Pakistan. Thanks.

 

[emranabbas]

Kindly stop talking about Pakistan. You’re UK born, let Pakistani born Pakistanis deal with Pakistan. Thanks.

There’s nothing wrong with talking about Pakistan I support the country and I’m genuinely happy for it. Whenever the country does something positive, I’ll openly praise it.

The issue is people like you who clearly don't live in Pakistan yet constantly demand changes and try to dictate what should happen there and try to downplay Pakistan just because your favourite person isn't the PM.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

There’s nothing wrong with talking about Pakistan I support the country and I’m genuinely happy for it. Whenever the country does something positive, I’ll openly praise it.

The issue is people like you who clearly don't live in Pakistan yet constantly demand changes and try to dictate what should happen there and try to downplay Pakistan just because your favourite person isn't the PM.

Well that is irony indeed. I always assumed because you moaned about non-Pakistanis interfering in Pakistan affairs that you were born in Pakistan. Maybe you should take your own advice and let local Pakistanis mind their own affairs and you can stick to kissing Nigel Farage

 

[emranabbas]

Well that is irony indeed. I always assumed because you moaned about non-Pakistanis interfering in Pakistan affairs that you were born in Pakistan. Maybe you should take your own advice and let local Pakistanis mind their own affairs and you can stick to kissing Nigel Farage's backside.

Captain, you seriously need to go back to school and educate yourself, because you clearly don’t understand the difference between supporting a country and interfering in its internal affairs.

I support the country and want to see it do well. I have never demanded a change in the prime minister, the government, or any other leadership. Praising a country for its positives and wishing it success is not interference.

The real interference comes from people like you those who are don't reside there yet feel entitled to dictate who should or shouldn’t be prime minister, what direction the country should take, and how it should be run, all while not even living there. If you’re so dissatisfied, that’s your personal issue, but trying to impose your opinions on a country you don’t reside in is just plain stupid.

 

[emranabbas]

@Cpt. Rishwat worst part is you pick online fights with people who support the country and people who want to see it do well and get angry when people praise the country, why anyone has anyone praised Pakistan
all because the person you’re obsessed with and trying to push for isn’t the prime minister. and you do all that while not even residing in the country. do you realise how stupid that makes you look? but when you fight with indians you like to be called british

 

[HalBass9]

There’s nothing wrong with talking about Pakistan I support the country and I’m genuinely happy for it. Whenever the country does something positive, I’ll openly praise it.

The issue is people like you who clearly don't live in Pakistan yet constantly demand changes and try to dictate what should happen there and try to downplay Pakistan just because your favourite person isn't the PM.

The heck you are doing then? LOL

Please allow Pakistani born Pakistani to decide who they support in Pakistan, you as a British born British stay out of it.

Thanks

 

[emranabbas]

The heck you are doing then? LOL

Please allow Pakistani born Pakistani to decide who they support in Pakistan, you as a British born British stay out of it.

Thanks

Are you deliberately being stupid, or can you just not read properly? Read the full post instead of cherry-picking one line and twisting its meaning. Is this level of ignorance common among PTI supporters? because you all seems the same.

 

[HalBass9]

Are you deliberately being stupid, or can you just not read properly? Read the full post instead of cherry-picking one line and twisting its meaning. Is this level of ignorance common among PTI supporters? because you all seems the same.

I read it, it reads like grandiosity. An English word you shouldn’t have trouble grasping as a British born Brit.

 

[emranabbas]

I read it, it reads like grandiosity. An English word you shouldn’t have trouble grasping as a British born Brit.

Many of the people commenting here weren’t even born in Pakistan. I have never called for changing governments or leaders, nor have I pushed for political upheaval of any kind. That narrative does not come from me it comes from your side.

So before making accusations or twisting my words, get the facts straight. Don’t project your own positions onto others and then argue against something I never said.

But I hope you and rest your kind are man of your words and not like the great u turn imran khan

 

[HalBass9]

Many of the people commenting here weren’t even born in Pakistan. I have never called for changing governments or leaders, nor have I pushed for political upheaval of any kind. That narrative does not come from me it comes from your side.

So before making accusations or twisting my words, get the facts straight. Don’t project your own positions onto others and then argue against something I never said.

But I hope you and rest your kind are man of your words and not like the great u turn imran khan

Sir, please stay out of our internal matter. Thanks

 

[emranabbas]

Sir, please stay out of our internal matter. Thanks

Sir please go back to your own country and deal with your internal matters there.

 

[HalBass9]

Sir please go back to your own country and deal with your internal matters there.

We’re literally exercising free speech by calling out the dictators you seem oddly committed to defending, as a Brit, of all people. The irony could power the National Grid.

 

[emranabbas]

We’re literally exercising free speech by calling out the dictators you seem oddly committed to defending, as a Brit, of all people. The irony could power the National Grid.

The Irony is a freshie like you left your country to chase the pound from very west you hate and funding isreal through paying tax then coming online screaming and shouting

Make it make sense

 

[HalBass9]

The Irony is a freshie like you left your country to chase the pound from very west you hate and funding isreal through paying tax then coming online screaming and shouting

Make it make sense

Only a Pakistani freshie has a right to talk about Pakistan, you as a Brit, please stop lecturing us how to bring about democracy in Pakistan.

 

[emranabbas]

Only a Pakistani freshie has a right to talk about Pakistan, you as a Brit, please stop lecturing us how to bring about democracy in Pakistan.

I have never been interested in your political system during my time on this forum and I still aren't but you PTI idiots got triggered because I made a thread praising the Suthra Punjab project. If praising Pakistan, its government, and its army upsets people like you, then I’ll keep doing it. That’s not interference that’s simply acknowledging positive work.

 

[HalBass9]

I have never been interested in your political system during my time on this forum and I still aren't but you PTI idiots got triggered because I made a thread praising the Suthra Punjab project. If praising Pakistan, its government, and its army upsets people like you, then I’ll keep doing it. That’s not interference that’s simply acknowledging positive work.

You do not upset me, you are irrelevant, you are Brit.

 

[emranabbas]

You do not upset me, you are irrelevant, you are Brit.

But you still need to reply me in every single thread when my posts are never directed at you

Even this conversation was between me and the british captain rishwat and you jumped in lol stop stalking me