Babar Azam remains at No. 4 in the batting rankings, Hasan Ali is still No. 1 ODI bowler!

[MenInG]

New Zealand need 3-0 win against the Windies in upcoming series so as not to lose points
India opener Rohit Sharma has moved up to grab fifth position among batsmen in the MRF Tyres ICC ODI Player Rankings after the three-match series against Sri Lanka which India wrapped up 2-1 on Sunday with an emphatic eight-wicket victory in the final ODI in Visakhapatnam.

Sharma has gained two slots and it is the first time that he has crossed the 800-point mark. Though he has enjoyed a career-high ranking of third in February 2016, he reached a personal high of 825 points after the second match in Mohali when he struck an unbeaten 208, his third ODI double-century. He has ended the series with 816 points.

Rohit’s opening partner Shikhar Dhawan, named player of the series, too has gained one slot to reach 14th position after aggregating 168 runs including an unbeaten 100 in Visakhapatnam. Dhawan had slammed 68 in the second match, figuring in a 115-run opening stand with Sharma.

Among their bowlers, leg-spinner Yuzvendra Chahal has moved up 23 places to take 28th place after finishing with six wickets in the series, Chinaman bowler Kuldeep Yadav has moved up 16 places to take a career-best 56th slot while all-rounder Hardik Pandya has gained 10 slots to also reach a career-best 45th position.

For the visiting side, Upul Tharanga has gained 15 places to reach 36th position among batsmen with his current tally of 571 points his highest in five years. Niroshan Dickwella has gained seven places to take 37th position.

Pace bowler Suranga Lakmal (up 14 places to 22nd) and all-rounder Angelo Mathews (up nine places to 45th) have moved up in the list for bowlers.

There has been no change of positions in the MRF Tyres ICC ODI Team Rankings. India could have overtaken South Africa to take top position with a 3-0 win but that was ruled out early as they lost the opening match on a seaming track in Dharamsala.

Meanwhile, fifth-ranked New Zealand (111 points) take on ninth-ranked Windies (77 points) in a three-match ODI series after having clinched a preceding two-Test series 2-0.

Though New Zealand could lose as many as five ranking points if they go down 3-0 and the Windies could gain six points in such a scenario, there is not going to be any change in the ranking positions.

Series scenarios:

New Zealand win 3-0: New Zealand 112 (+1); Windies 76 (-1)
New Zealand win 2-1: New Zealand 110 (-1); Windies 78 (+1)
Windies win 2-1: New Zealand 108 (-3); Windies 80 (+3)
Windies win 3-0: New Zealand 106 (-5), Windies 83 (+6)

Captain Kane Williamson (10th) and Ross Taylor (15th) are the leading batsmen for New Zealand in terms of rankings. Captain Kane Williamson (10th) and Ross Taylor (15th) are the leading batsmen for New Zealand in terms of rankings.

Captain Kane Williamson (10th) and Ross Taylor (15th) are the leading batsmen for New Zealand in terms of rankings, while Trent Boult (seventh) and Matt Henry (17th) are their best bowlers.

For the Windies, Chris Gayle is the top-ranked batsman (67th) in the absence of Marlon Samuels with captain Jason Holder (69th) next in the list. Holder is also their leading bowler in 27th position.

New Zealand v Windies ODI series itinerary:

20 December: 1st ODI, Whangarei

23 December: 2nd ODI, Christchurch

26 December: 3rd ODI, Christchurch

MRF Tyres ICC ODI Team Rankings (as on 18 December, after the India-Sri Lanka series and before the New Zealand-Windies series):

Rank Team Points

South Africa 121
India 119 (-1)
Australia 114
England 114
New Zealand 111
Pakistan 99
Bangladesh 92
Sri Lanka 84 (-1)
West Indies 77
Afghanistan 54
Zimbabwe 52
Ireland 41
(Developed by David Kendix)

MRF Tyres ICC ODI Player Rankings (as on 18 December, after the India-Sri Lanka series and before the New Zealand-Windies series):

BATTING (top 10)

Rank (+/-) Player Team Points Avge Highest Rating

1 ( - ) Virat Kohli Ind 876 55.74 889 v NZ at Kanpur 2017

2 ( - ) AB de Villiers SA 872 54.06 902 v NZ at Auckland 2015

3 ( - ) David Warner Aus 865 44.94 880 v Pak at Adelaide 2017

4 ( - ) Babar Azam Pak 846*! 58.60 846 v SL at Sharjah 2017

5 (+2) Rohit Sharma Ind 816 45.23 825 v SL at Mohali 2017

6 (-1) Quinton de Kock SA 808! 45.85 808 v Ban at East London 2017

7 (-1) Joe Root Eng 802 50.00 808 v Win at Bristol 2017

8 ( - ) Faf du Plessis SA 773 43.90 791 v SL at Cape Town 2017

9 ( - ) Hashim Amla SA 766 51.25 901 v Eng at Trent Bridge 2012

10 ( - ) Kane Williamson NZ 760 46.31 798 v SA at Centurion 2015

OTHER SELECTED RANKINGS

Rank (+/-) Player Team Points Avge Highest Rating

12 ( - ) Martin Guptill NZ 728 42.71 789 v SA at Hamilton 2017

14 (+1) Shikhar Dhawan Ind 726 44.86 794 v SA at Melbourne 2015

15 (-1) Ross Taylor NZ 725 44.27 743 v Zim at Harare 2015

24 (+3) Angelo Mathews SL 632 41.85 707 v Eng at Colombo (RPS) 2014

36 (+15) Upul Tharanga SL 571 33.89 663 v NZ at Napier 2006

37= (+7) N. Dickwella SL 562* 33.63 605 v Ind at Pallekele 2017

BOWLING (top 10)

Rank (+/-) Player Team Points Avge Eco. Highest Rating

1 ( - ) Hasan Ali Pak 759*! 19.82 5.11 759 v SL at Sharjah 2017

2 ( - ) Imran Tahir SA 743 23.72 4.64 786 v SL at Johannesburg 2017

3 ( - ) Jasprit Bumrah Ind 729* 22.71 4.74 731 v SL at Mohali 2017

4 ( - ) Josh Hazlewood Aus 714 23.85 4.69 732 v Eng at Edgbaston 2017

5 ( - ) Kagiso Rabada SA 708 26.08 5.05 724 v Eng at Lord's 2017

6 ( - ) Mitchell Starc Aus 684 20.13 4.81 783 v NZ at Melbourne 2015

7 ( - ) Trent Boult NZ 671 26.21 5.04 766 v Ind at Delhi 2016

8 (+1) Rashid Khan Afg 649*! 14.48 3.91 649 v Ire at Sharjah 2017

9= (+1) Sunil Narine Win 646 26.46 4.12 791 v SL at Jamaica 2013

(+1) Liam Plunkett Eng 646! 30.22 5.77 646 v Win at Southampton 2017

OTHER SELECTED RANKINGS

Rank (+/-) Player Team Points Avge Eco. Highest Rating

14 ( - ) Mitchell Santner NZ 628! 33.81 4.95 628 v Ind at Kanpur 2017

17 ( - ) Matt Henry NZ 597 25.26 5.62 675 v Aus at Hamilton 2016

22 (+14) Suranga Lakmal SL 574 30.52 5.39 592 v Ind at Dharamsala 2017

27 (-1) Jason Holder Win 558 33.62 5.47 605 v SL at Bulawayo 2016

28 (+23) Y. Chahal Ind 557*! 25.07 4.66 557 v SL at Visakhapatnam 2017

45= (+9) Angelo Mathews SL 508 34.21 4.61 649 v Ind at Trinidad 2013

(+10) Hardik Pandya Ind 508*! 35.48 5.56 508 v SL at Visakhapatnam 2017

56 (+16) Kuldeep Yadav Ind 467*! 24.77 4.88 467 v SL at Visakhapatnam 2017

63 (+11) Nuwan Pradeep SL 457* 42.60 6.01 464 v Ind at Dharamsala 2017

ALL-ROUNDERS (top five)

Rank (+/-) Player Team Points Highest Rating

1 ( - ) M. Hafeez Pak 352 438 v Ind at Kolkata 2013

2 ( - ) S. Al Hasan Ban 346 453 v Zim at Chittagong 2009

3 (+2) Angelo Mathews SL 321 427 v Eng at Colombo (RPS) 2014

4 (-1) M. Nabi Afg 316 349 v Ire at Greater Noida 2017

5 (-1) Ben Stokes Eng 293 299 v Win at Bristol 2017

 

[MenInG]

Pakistan boys doing well to hold on to their positions - greater things expected next year.

 

[Amirforpresident]

Altough Rohit is a FTB, there is no way Babar is better than him at the moment.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Babar is no where near anyone.

 

[Shafi]

All top 10 batsmen are far superior than Babar Azam unfortunately!!!!

 

[Madplayer]

Look at the defeatist attitude of Pakistani fans in this thread.

Babar might or might not be better than many of these players but he deserves this ranking for being the most consistent player in ODI cricket in the given period.

 

[MenInG]

Look at the defeatist attitude of Pakistani fans in this thread.

Babar might or might not be better than many of these players but he deserves this ranking for being the most consistent player in ODI cricket in the given period.

not sure what they are arguing about. The rankings arent made up! Its reality.

 

[RobinJay]

Babar hasn't played enough yet to be properly compared to any of the other top 10 batsmen but it is his consistently good performances so far that have landed him up there. The next set of international assignments will show whether he truly has the mantle or not.

 

[MenInG]

Babar hasn't played enough yet to be properly compared to any of the other top 10 batsmen but it is his consistently good performances so far that have landed him up there. The next set of international assignments will show whether he truly has the mantle or not.

Absolutely. And his performances will reflect in that ranking.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Look at the defeatist attitude of Pakistani fans in this thread.

Babar might or might not be better than many of these players but he deserves this ranking for being the most consistent player in ODI cricket in the given period.

They don't realise Babar is a world class batter and is easily a top 4 world batter at such a young age. This is the type of player along with Hasan Ali that will win us a world cup.

He is better than majority of south asian ftb trash.

 

[MenInG]

They don't realise Babar is a world class batter and is easily a top 4 world batter at such a young age. This is the type of player along with Hasan Ali that will win us a world cup.

He is better than majority of south asian ftb trash.

Not sure why we need to call others trash - just be happy we have a batsman at that ranking.

 

[UN talkz]

Hasan needs to cement his place at the top in the NZ series considering that Pak aren't going to play any ODI cricket till July 18

 

[Buffet]

All top 10 batsmen are far superior than Babar Azam unfortunately!!!!

How can they be far superior when Babar is ranked 4? Rankings are objective and I don't think I will argue too much if you say rank 8 is better than rank 5, but all top 10 batsmen can't be 'far' superior to some one who is ranked 4.

 

[Darkrai]

Some of the Pakistani fans are so ungrateful, saying Babar doesn't deserve to be on the list. lol what a joke. Ranking don't favor babar they just reflect his performance. You can whine and cry all you want but Without Babar's consistent performance i doubt we would have been this successful in odis this year. There is no one in the team who is as consistent as him. Our batting line up is a joke without him. Name one player we can rely on besides Babar? If you think his performances have been useless you're delusional. Without him we would have lost so many matches. The reason he bats slow is because the team required it- unlike other teams our batting is weak and can collapse any time. I'm sure if the management wanted him to play faster they would have told him but his role in the team is made clear and he is doing a great job. Facts > your opinion. I your opinion others players in top 10 may be superior to Babar but facts suggest that he has given better performances than most of them.

 

[DRsohail]

?Babar is doing what we need so no worries if he is there or not..do u remmebr when we were all out 9 out of 10 times in odi...thank u Babar Azam [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION].

 

[CricFan2012]

babar is certainly a top 10 batsman, but doesn't deserve to be in the top 5 unless he starts adding more power shots to his arsenal

 

[Darkrai]

babar is certainly a top 10 batsman, but doesn't deserve to be in the top 5 unless he starts adding more power shots to his arsenal

These ranking are not subjective, They are based on performances not opinions. He deserves whatever rating he gets.

 

[WengerOut]

So rankings don't matter when a certain team is NO 1 but matters when some individual is No 5. Ranking might not be subjective but opinions about rankings surely are.

 

[Madplayer]

So rankings don't matter when a certain team is NO 1 but matters when some individual is No 5. Ranking might not be subjective but opinions about rankings surely are.

Number 4 *

 

[WengerOut]

Number 4 *

Thank u

 

[navin]

LOL people are not asking how many of those runs he has made in UAE and against whom?

Different standard for different players?

None the less he is an excellent find for pakistan, a lot better than most pakistani players of this generation

 

[Darkrai]

So rankings don't matter when a certain team is NO 1 but matters when some individual is No 5. Ranking might not be subjective but opinions about rankings surely are.

Ranking may be flawed but the same method is used for everyone. If you're referring to India's test ranking, people don't take it too seriously because India has played only at home for a while now or in sri lanka. Any team that only plays home series will obviously get better rankings, that's not India's fault that's just how the ranking works. I know the same method is used for players ranking as well. But babar has performed well overseas and besides many other players played more at home than babar has recently.

 

[Darkrai]

LOL people are not asking how many of those runs he has made in UAE and against whom?

Different standard for different players?

None the less he is an excellent find for pakistan, a lot better than most pakistani players of this generation

In that case people should also ask that about every player on the list. Although i believe the ranking does take into account the difficulty of the opposition.

 

[navin]

In that case people should also ask that about every player on the list. Although i believe the ranking does take into account the difficulty of the opposition.

my point is whenever there is a thread on Indian players people come with excuses that he is a FTB and only score against weak teams at home. Don't you think same standards should also be applicable on pakistani players as well?

 

[Darkrai]

my point is whenever there is a thread on Indian players people come with excuses that he is a FTB and only score against weak teams at home. Don't you think same standards should also be applicable on pakistani players as well?

I agree, because the ranking system is flawed people will always have problems with the rankings. Of course the same standards should be used for everyone-but people tend to be biased at times and i'm also guilty of that. I wish ICC would improve the ranking system, then i think people would have less excuses.

 

[navin]

Just to put things in perspective


Record against Sri Lanka and west indies



Record at UAE



and Indian batsmen are called FTB

 

[Darkrai]

To be fair Babar also did well in Aus with 1 100 and 1 50 but this NZ series will tell us a lot about his batting.

 

[navin]

To be fair Babar also did well in Aus with 1 100 and 1 50 but this NZ series will tell us a lot about his batting.

You are right but This is how Indian players are judged and when Indian players make 4 centuries in a row in test matches in Australia then the tracks are automatically become flat LOL.

 

[babajee]

You are right but This is how Indian players are judged and when Indian players make 4 centuries in a row in test matches in Australia then the tracks are automatically become flat LOL.

95% of ODI wickets are flat.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Just to put things in perspective


Record against Sri Lanka and west indies
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Record at UAE
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and Indian batsmen are called FTB

Rohit Sharma has consistently failed early on against the moving ball to form an informed opinion about his prowess in difficult batting conditions. Babar Azam's sample size is comparatively zero. Ajinkya Rahane is appreciated here for being outstanding in overseas conditions. Stop whining when facts are for all to see.

 

[navin]

6 out of 7 centuries agaist Sri Lanka and West indies

 

[navin]

95% of ODI wickets are flat.

You should tell this to your own countrymen?

 

[navin]

Rohit Sharma has consistently failed early on against the moving ball to form an informed opinion about his prowess in difficult batting conditions. Babar Azam's sample size is comparatively zero. Ajinkya Rahane is appreciated here for being outstanding in overseas conditions. Stop whining when facts are for all to see.

How come Rohit or Rahane have come to the discussion? Why are you being so defensive when I am using the same parameter Indian players are judged upon?

 

[babajee]

You should tell this to your own countrymen?

They know

 

[navin]

They know

Even then whenever Indian player score runs they are called FTB? It doesn't make sense if 95% of all the tracks are Flat then how come only Indian players are called FTB not the likes of Babar? Why this double standard?

 

[babajee]

Even then whenever Indian player score runs they are called FTB? It doesn't make sense if 95% of all the tracks are Flat then how come only Indian players are called FTB not the likes of Babar? Why this double standard?

The only player who gets called FTB mainly is Rohit because of his failiures in tests and whenever there has been swing.

 

[Madplayer]

Even then whenever Indian player score runs they are called FTB? It doesn't make sense if 95% of all the tracks are Flat then how come only Indian players are called FTB not the likes of Babar? Why this double standard?

Because Babar has shown glimpses of being a good batsmen in the 5% of difficult batting pitches where Indian batsmen fail miserably.

 

[navin]

The only player who gets called FTB mainly is Rohit because of his failiures in tests and whenever there has been swing.

If this is the criteria then tell me what's the record of Babar Azam in tests and in swing conditions?

 

[navin]

Because Babar has shown glimpses of being a good batsmen in the 5% of difficult batting pitches where Indian batsmen fail miserably.

and what are those pitches and what is record of Babar Azam on those pitches compare to Indian batsmen?

 

[Usman Chadda]

How come Rohit or Rahane have come to the discussion? Why are you being so defensive when I am using the same parameter Indian players are judged upon?

Irony.

Quite clear who's stinking up the thread by being defensive here. This is a thread about Babar Azam and Hasan Ali's respective rankings. You can open a new thread for your negative rubbish.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

If this is the criteria then tell me what's the record of Babar Azam in tests and in swing conditions?

Can you stop ranting. Your FTB specialists get to play on Indian doctored surfaces against Sri Lanka to build their averages which are inflated by 7 at the very least. Then you have western pundits all eager for the slice of IPL pie hyping your batters.

Reality is very different, I know its difficult for you to grasp but Babar is far superior to every Indian batter except for Kohli and with Babar being young he can potentially eclipse him or match him as he develops and matures.

 

[navin]

Irony.

Quite clear who's stinking up the thread by being defensive here. This is a thread about Babar Azam and Hasan Ali's respective rankings. You can open a new thread for your negative rubbish.

There is no irony here but you are going off topic here by thrusting Rohit and Rahane here when Babar is being discussed.

 

[navin]

Can you stop ranting. Your FTB specialists get to play on Indian doctored surfaces against Sri Lanka to build their averages which are inflated by 7 at the very least. Then you have western pundits all eager for the slice of IPL pie hyping your batters.

Reality is very different, I know its difficult for you to grasp but Babar is far superior to every Indian batter except for Kohli and with Babar being young he can potentially eclipse him or match him as he develops and matures.

Wow your fellow countryman said Rohit is called FTB and Babar not because of their record in tests and in swing condition and me asking him what is the record of Babar in those condition is ranting?

 

[Buffet]

So rankings don't matter when a certain team is NO 1 but matters when some individual is No 5. Ranking might not be subjective but opinions about rankings surely are.

In both cases rankings are fine and objective.

 

[navin]

Can you stop ranting. Your FTB specialists get to play on Indian doctored surfaces against Sri Lanka to build their averages which are inflated by 7 at the very least. Then you have western pundits all eager for the slice of IPL pie hyping your batters.

Wow and your Azam has 6 out of 7 centuries against world beater Sri Lanka and West Indies and on the minefields of UAE. Woah

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Wow and your Azam has 6 out of 7 centuries against world beater Sri Lanka and West Indies and on the minefields of UAE. Woah

UAE is not home and pitches are dull and slow. If he played in Pakistan he would have made 170+ on multiple occasions against these teams.

 

[navin]

UAE is not home and pitches are dull and slow. If he played in Pakistan he would have made 170+ on multiple occasions against these teams.

As far as I know the pitches in UAE are not considered swing friendly(remember only 5 percent of pitches are not flat as we have discussed above). So either they are flat or they are swing friendly where only a real batsman can be judged(that has also been discussed above).

Or as one of the member said above that he is not a FTB because of his record in tests and those swing friendly pitches and I asked what is that record in tests he is talking about or the his record on rest of those 5% pitches but I haven't got the answer.

Maybe you can put some light on those records!

 

[Usman Chadda]

There is no irony here but you are going off topic here by thrusting Rohit and Rahane here when Babar is being discussed.

How do you miss the irony in all of your posts? Who brought up the topic of Indian batsmen and FTBs in this thread?

 

[TeymurBlake]

It brings me great joy to see how far Babar Azam has come, to see him amongst some of the best players today and not only that but to be ahead of most of them. Babar has come far but there's alot more further to go

 

[navin]

How do you miss the irony in all of your posts? Who brought up the topic of Indian batsmen and FTBs in this thread?

This is a common tradition on pakpassion here. I am not doing that doesn't happen on every other thread.
It would have been an irony if I was doing something new out of blue but it is a regular practice here on PP.

 

[Hasan123]

Babar has done well to get this ranking. Hopefully he can learn to accelerate. Having more power hitters around him will help and relieve some pressure off him.

Happy with his progress in ODIs. In tests once he gets a big score,he'll become a run machine in that format. You can mark this post.

 

[maxamax]

All top 10 batsmen are far superior than Babar Azam unfortunately!!!!

Babar is no where near anyone.

Altough Rohit is a FTB, there is no way Babar is better than him at the moment.

Anyone who saw him flicking Pandya and co away for 4s would disagree. He needs to be backed up..

 

[navin]

Anyone who saw him flicking Pandya and co away for 4s would disagree. He needs to be backed up..

He is a very fine batsman but some people like only those players who can accelerate very rapidly but I think he is going to be one of the top player for a long time and whatever deficiencies he has will vanish with time.

 

[Buffet]

I think reaching a certain ranking by a player or a team is less meaningful. More meaningful is how long a player or a team sustains it.

Arguing about ranking is also meaningless, it's a formula and same for everyone. Home, away, minnows etc gets balanced with a longer time span and that's why I read more into situations where player or team sustains it for a long time.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Fluke no 4 ranking for Babar Azam.

Sharma, Dhawan, Rahul, Iyer, Jadhav, Pandey and Karthik are all better than him. Babar won"t make it into the Indian side.

Regards.

 

[htariq25]

Babar had the best average amongst all of them which is pleasing. He deserves his 4th spot due to his consistency.

 

[babajee]

Fluke no 4 ranking for Babar Azam.

Sharma, Dhawan, Rahul, Iyer, Jadhav, Pandey and Karthik are all better than him. Babar won"t make it into the Indian side.

Regards.

Bhai, Babar wouldn’t even make the Indian U15 team, they have that much batting talent.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Also Hasan doesn't deserve to be at top of the rankings. Got lucky that opposition played poorly against him.

Bumrah and Bhuvi are comfortably better and unlucky to miss out especially Bumrah. They have a kept a world class bowler like Shami on the sidelines which rankings won"t show.

Regards.

 

[navin]

Bhai, Babar wouldn’t even make the Indian U15 team, they have that much batting talent.

You haven't posted the test stats and the performances in swing condition you were talking about yet!

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Bhai, Babar wouldn’t even make the Indian U15 team, they have that much batting talent.

Thats quite true brother.

Indian u-15 players like Prithvi Shaw have a much higher ceiling than Babar and as you said Babar will find it extremely hard to make Indian u-15 team as they have talent in abundance plus a proper batting culture. Those who think otherwise should take off their biased nationality glasses off.

Regards.

 

[navin]

Bumrah and Bhuvi are comfortably better and unlucky to miss out especially Bumrah.

Regards.

what is the reasoning behind your observation?

 

[babajee]

You haven't posted the test stats and the performances in swing condition you were talking about yet!

He’s only played in swing conditions in NZ where he scored a 90*.

Can’t be bothered arguing with you bro.

 

[navin]

Indian u-15 players like Prithvi Shaw have a much higher ceiling than Babar

Regards.

Again what is the reasoning?

 

[navin]

He’s only played in swing conditions in NZ where he scored a 90*.

Can’t be bothered arguing with you bro.

You can't argue because you can't support your claims with facts.

You said Rohit is called FTB due to his performances in test but you haven't presented the performances of Azam? and based on one 90 run in NZ he automatically can be classified a better batsman and Rohit a FTB even though he has given many performances overseas in England, Australia and many more.

 

[navin]

[MENTION=143344]babajee[/MENTION] I am just trying to find some sense and reasoning backed with data that supports your claims nothing else.

regards

 

[babajee]

You can't argue because you can't support your claims with facts.

You said Rohit is called FTB due to his performances in test but you haven't presented the performances of Azam? and based on one 90 run in NZ he automatically can be classified a better batsman and Rohit a FTB even though he has given many performances overseas in England, Australia and many more.

The sample size is too small for Babar. Let him play and you will see.

If you read properly I never called Rohit a FTB I just said why people call him that.

Enjoy your day.

 

[navin]

The sample size is too small for Babar. Let him play and you will see.

If you read properly I never called Rohit a FTB I just said why people call him that.

Enjoy your day.

[MENTION=143344]babajee[/MENTION] All I am saying is people judge Indian and Pakistani players here with a different yardstick. If A Babar bash minnows in UAE he becomes a great batsman and If A Rohit does the same in India or even in Australia he becomes a minnow basher or a FTB

regards

 

[Hiraeth]

6 out of 7 centuries agaist Sri Lanka and West indies

He’s only gonna play what’s in front of him. Did well in Aus and scored two fifties against NZ (from 2 games, 2nd ODI was washed out) in his first series outside of Asia. He’s only really had one series as a OD batsman which can be classed as a failure and that was against England.

Only failed in two matches in the CT (India and SL), but can’t expect him to amass large runs when your bowling out oppositions for 220-240 .

 

[Anuj25]

Babar azam is a great find and is consistent but it would be interesting to see how he copes when the chip are down for him.
In my personal opinion atm he lacks that x factor to be dominant in odi.
Completely irrelevant but Hasan ali might end up a better odi player than him in the long run

 

[bilalmasaud]

Not sure why we need to call others trash - just be happy we have a batsman at that ranking.

exactly after a decade we have a batsman that has the potential and is performing to his potential but we have wrist slitting going on ... he's earned his spot ... will he maintain it or do better time will tell but why the hate now

 

[jnaveen1980]

He is doing the role he is set out to do in the best way possible. Expecting him too much from him will lead to wrist-slitting. Expecting Babar to bat like Gayle is going disappoint fans. He has some limitations. Don't think he is going to turn into a monster hitter.

 

[MeanAndGreen]

You can't argue because you can't support your claims with facts.

You said Rohit is called FTB due to his performances in test but you haven't presented the performances of Azam? and based on one 90 run in NZ he automatically can be classified a better batsman and Rohit a FTB even though he has given many performances overseas in England, Australia and many more.

You're seriously calling Azam a FTB based on 36 matches and comparing with him with a 30-year old world class ODI batter who's played 175 matches? The argument here isn't whether he's better than Rohit, it is that he doesn't deserve that tag so early in his career. In his ODI career so far he hasn't shown any signs of being an out and out FTB either.

It's ludicrous to nitpick a 36 match sample size to this extent and compare it with that of a seasoned international cricketer.