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Babar Azam Test Captaincy SACK countdown thread

Not kneejerk but a humiliating loss could be bad for Babar in many ways!
 
Babar will be sacked

Rizwan next in line to be captain
 
Coward, defensive, selfish, negative and timid arejust a few words to describe Babar's captaincy.

Surely on borrowed time.
 
Babbar "koi kisi pr ungli nhin uthaye ga" Azam and Saqlain "Qudrat ka nizam" Mushtaq both are grossly inept at their roles. Get a proper coach and a strategically able player as captain... please no more kuptaans...
 
Why are duds like Azhar, Mahmood and Ali playing? Clueless selections. Horrible and timid captaincy in-game. The guy just doesn't have a captaincy brain. He needs to be binned off after the NZ series at the very latest.

The issue is, who next? Rizwan? There isn't really anyone else with any sort of experience in the team. Shaheen is too injury prone to be considered. Likes of Abdullah and Naseem are too raw. Shan could've been an option if the management had kicked out Azhar and given him a proper chance at 3 but as things stand we simply don't know if he's ready for test cricket this time around.

There is zero planning in Pakistan cricket. All other serious nations have a plan B. If their players underperform they have a plan B. If their captains underperform they have a plan B. In Pakistan you are allowed to overstay your welcome. Nothing happens until you are forced out by media/fan pressure.
 
Pakistan is a timid Test team with a captain singleminded in chasing records on flattest tracks. Really sad given how T20 mindset seems totally different.
 
You need a strong and assertive coach regardless of how big of "brand" you want your captain to be. Babar isn't very adept with selections (picking the worst options of an already poor squad given by Mr Powerpoint).

Good thing is Saqlain is going in 2 months.

But the bad thing is Ramiz "showman" Raja believes in 6 month to 1 year tenures of coaches and isn't a fan of spending money on good coaches for the national team.

Apart from the fact that it is Pakistani team, it's becoming extremely hard to support this organization.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
You need a strong and assertive coach regardless of how big of "brand" you want your captain to be. Babar isn't very adept with selections (picking the worst options of an already poor squad given by Mr Powerpoint).

Good thing is Saqlain is going in 2 months.

But the bad thing is Ramiz "showman" Raja believes in 6 month to 1 year tenures of coaches and isn't a fan of spending money on good coaches for the national team.

Apart from the fact that it is Pakistani team, it's becoming extremely hard to support this organization.
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I have always believed that Akhtar can change the mindset like how Shastri singlehandedly turned a bunch of wimps into fierce warriors. Jazba and Daleri is need of the hour for Pakistan team. They may still not be world beaters for the lack of talent, but it should be more enjoyable to watch.
 
On a par with Moyo, Moin khan and Rameez raja as the most pathetic test captain ever.
 
Well it's a pattern, he is always on the defensive when opposition tries to attack and put pressure which give them free hand to play intelligently and keep attacking in a control manner.
 
GreenBee said:
I have always believed that Akhtar can change the mindset like how Shastri singlehandedly turned a bunch of wimps into fierce warriors. Jazba and Daleri is need of the hour for Pakistan team. They may still not be world beaters for the lack of talent, but it should be more enjoyable to watch.
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Shastri was a former captain with known tactical nous. Akhtar was always a volatile character with no experience or success as a captain. In domestic t20s, he promoted himself at no.3 and no.4 quite a few times as a batter as well which tells you how self centered he was.

Younis Khan and Shahid Afridi would be much better options than him if we are talking about positive approach. But Younis' problem is his volatile nature and he feels disrespected once every week. But has a good sense of strategy and tactics.
Shahid Afridi isn't as volatile as Younis but isn't that good of a planner or tactician.

The same team was playing for results in 2021 against SA (home) and WI(away)

A foreign coach would be much better tbh.
 
GreenBee said:
I have always believed that Akhtar can change the mindset like how Shastri singlehandedly turned a bunch of wimps into fierce warriors. Jazba and Daleri is need of the hour for Pakistan team. They may still not be world beaters for the lack of talent, but it should be more enjoyable to watch.
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You can find jazba and daleri in other ways without making a poor role model the national coach. Akhtar had his opportunity but never led Pakistan nor has he prioritised learning coaching over his Youtube channel since retirement.

Shoaib is a decent orator but the national team coach is not a joke position that he will be revolutionary despite having zero credentials.

He can be the mascot or something if he really wants to help the side.
 
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Why didn't the Pakistani captain and bowlers look to dry up the runs?

I remember when India left South Africa 450 runs to chase in the final day of the test match in 2013, South Africa got off to a quick start and ABD was firing all cylinders and the match reached a situation where South Africa needed some 120 runs with a session and a half remaining, the pitch had nothing for the pacers and spinners and ABD was going great guns.

Dhoni decided to keep fielders on the boundary on the off side and he instructed his pacers to bowl outside the off stump and to restrict the SA batsmen to singles or dot balls. It didn't make for easy viewing and was pretty boring but the tactic was extremely defensive but the Indians succeeded in slowing down the run rate and eventually when ABD got out, JP Duminy got out as well and the South Africans in the end decided to play safe first and India ended up getting a draw and South Africa fell short by 8-10 runs.

On such a dead Rawalpindi wicket with nothing for the pacers or spinners, why did the Pakistani bowlers not decide to just restrict the flow of runs and adopt the same defensive approach when it was the need of the day? The goal should have been was to restrict England from scoring more than 350 in the days play.

Babar Azam is bringing his incompetent captaincy which was on display at Karachi Kings into the national side. The guy has absolutely zero game awareness or understanding of the game and is not spontaneous at all. When will the PCB wake up and smell the coffee that the best batsman in the team does not necessarily mean that the individual is captaincy material?

How long does the national side have to keep underachieving because of an incompetent individual in charge?
 
Leg side line for Zahid being pulverized by Brook. 27 runs off that over, Babar has no answers
 
Bowlibg with old ball even though its still going the distance.

This guy is awful
 
More then bowlers I am more afraid it will be Babar that will be scarred more by Bazball. Hairs is your best T 20 bowler and he has bowled least overs this guy is cluless as hell to deal with some out of box thinking from opposition
 
Xoib said:
More then bowlers I am more afraid it will be Babar that will be scarred more by Bazball. Hairs is your best T 20 bowler and he has bowled least overs this guy is cluless as hell to deal with some out of box thinking from opposition
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Babar isn't thinking about that at all. Saqlain told him Ali is there for 'long spells' and that's all what is there in his paindou head.
 
I gave this guy a lot of chances. And even then only said to remove t20 captaincy from him.

However, now, with the nepotism and continued brain farting and timid tactics. It’s time to go.

He’s still a world class bat, and so he should just focus on batting.

Not all star batsmen are cut out to be captains. It takes a lot of mental stress to perform + be captain, and he clearly isn’t about that life. He’s like Sachin. It’s time to let the bat and only the bat do the talking my friend.
 
With such pathetic pitch we have 3 new bowlers and our most experienced bowler is 20 years and 13 tests matches old. We should have rather gone with better pitch and more experienced bowlers (Abbas/Yasir Shah)
 
Suleiman said:
I gave this guy a lot of chances. And even then only said to remove t20 captaincy from him.

However, now, with the nepotism and continued brain farting and timid tactics. It’s time to go.

He’s still a world class bat, and so he should just focus on batting.

Not all star batsmen are cut out to be captains. It takes a lot of mental stress to perform + be captain, and he clearly isn’t about that life. He’s like Sachin. It’s time to let the bat and only the bat do the talking my friend.
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Plz explain this to his fans who keep citing the fact we reached the Semis of the 2021 T20 WC, the final of the Asia T20 Cup and the T20 WC in 2022 and the fact he keeps the team, dressing room happy as the reason why he should be persisted as captain.
 
Pakistan is the only Asian team which play test cricket at it's home grounds with defensive mindset for draw & survival. Even Sri Lanka & Bangladesh play for victory. Australia came to Pakistan after 23 years and they dominated in Karachi & Lahore test and eventually won the test series, now England came after 17 years and it's for all to see how modern test cricket is played. All these Pakistani cricketers have played plenty of cricket in their home conditions but still they are ultra defensive, low on confidence, zero game awareness, loss of ideas. If things will continue like this no team will come to Pakistan for test cricket or probably they will play 2 match series only
 
Some of the fields he has set in this Test at Pindi have been bizarre.

No mid wicket for Crawley on a slow track.

Gifting runs.
 
He is a disgraceful captain, he has no leadership quality. Sack him and Saqlain
 
Was brave with the reviews in the first session and backed his young spinner. Encouraging signs of a good leader in the making
 
Clueless thread from no surprise whom . Only batsman who is assured of his spot and lifts this mediocre team with his batting should be removed as captain. Which will make us Australia of 2000.
 
Gullycricket said:
Clueless thread from no surprise whom . Only batsman who is assured of his spot and lifts this mediocre team with his batting should be removed as captain. Which will make us Australia of 2000.
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Lol

I think we won the Test today
 
Playing zahid mehmood over abrar is a sackable offense as is playing on the type of tracks they have done in the last 4 tests.
 
ask_analyse_act said:
Changing captain is not gonna do any good to this team..

Elephant in the room is quality of the players.....

Babar Azam is the only batsman in this line up who can cope with reverse swing and cracks in this pitch if being exploited.. Other that in the lineup I only see Abdullah Shafique who can come close to some extent but he is very young & naive to test cricket as well..

Get rid off Azhar ali and Fawad Alam bring in players like Saud Shakeel and Kamran Ghulam.. GIve them the experience of test cricket to form a future team, instead of nothing batsman like Azhar and Fawad...
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Imagine this side with Azhar and Fawad in this test match , wat would the score be right now..

With their defensive batting approach Pakistan would be 68-3 at the end of todays play...
 
As i said earlier in this thread Babar should continue as captain.., his replacments are not there yet..

Well this team on the whole needs a person (coach) who can teach, develop, nurture talents and provide direction... I hope if they can hire some renowned coach with that skill would do a gulf of difference.. Im sure he wouldnt be the captain he is under someone like MA... All now he has is Misbahi and Saqi vibes to the core..
So I dont expect him to captain like Stokes, Kohli or anyone for that matter...

MA was doing well forming a unit in LOI. His formation of the LOI top order is still doing good and in use, and that should be the yardstick... If he doesnt form this side, Pak would be still playing Shehzad , Anwar ali and so on..

Yes he did mistakes in the test side of it , but wat is happening now isnt the same, couldnt win against Aus in home ground...thrashed by Eng batting at 7 RPO in a test match lol..

This team lacks guidance and some times not even reactive...

Good to see young players like Shakeel, Agha Salma and Abraar coming to the fore making names.. One leech Fawad gone , waiting for Azhar to be shown the door too..
 
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If we have replacement then yes replace him but pakistan do not have a replacement in tests so he should stay captain.
 
ask_analyse_act said:
As i said earlier in this thread Babar should continue as captain.., his replacments are not there yet..

Well this team on the whole needs a person (coach) who can teach, develop, nurture talents and provide direction... I hope if they can hire some renowned coach with that skill would do a gulf of difference.. Im sure he wouldnt be the captain he is under someone like MA... All now he has is Misbahi and Saqi vibes to the core..
So I dont expect him to captain like Stokes, Kohli or anyone for that matter...

MA was doing well forming a unit in LOI. His formation of the LOI top order is still doing good and in use, and that should be the yardstick... If he doesnt form this side, Pak would be still playing Shehzad , Anwar ali and so on..

Yes he did mistakes in the test side of it , but wat is happening now isnt the same, couldnt win against Aus in home ground...thrashed by Eng batting at 7 RPO in a test match lol..

This team lacks guidance and some times not even reactive...

Good to see young players like Shakeel, Agha Salma and Abraar coming to the fore making names.. One leech Fawad gone , waiting for Azhar to be shown the door too..
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Hurraira should replace Azhar in asain conditions and In SENA should be Kamran Ghulam
 
ask_analyse_act said:
As i said earlier in this thread Babar should continue as captain.., his replacments are not there yet..

Well this team on the whole needs a person (coach) who can teach, develop, nurture talents and provide direction... I hope if they can hire some renowned coach with that skill would do a gulf of difference.. Im sure he wouldnt be the captain he is under someone like MA... All now he has is Misbahi and Saqi vibes to the core..
So I dont expect him to captain like Stokes, Kohli or anyone for that matter...

MA was doing well forming a unit in LOI. His formation of the LOI top order is still doing good and in use, and that should be the yardstick... If he doesnt form this side, Pak would be still playing Shehzad , Anwar ali and so on..

Yes he did mistakes in the test side of it , but wat is happening now isnt the same, couldnt win against Aus in home ground...thrashed by Eng batting at 7 RPO in a test match lol..

This team lacks guidance and some times not even reactive...

Good to see young players like Shakeel, Agha Salma and Abraar coming to the fore making names.. One leech Fawad gone , waiting for Azhar to be shown the door too..
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Agree with you. Babar is building a good culture. He has created trust. He's a good leader but probably not the best tactically
 
Yet another home series loss on the cards this year. At this rate I won’t be shocked if NZ win too.

Just like Joe Root’s captaincy, Babar’s is going nowhere. He has to be sacked. Let him focus on his batting and give the captaincy to someone who has the right mindset.
 
Hectic said:
Yet another home series loss on the cards this year. At this rate I won’t be shocked if NZ win too.

Just like Joe Root’s captaincy, Babar’s is going nowhere. He has to be sacked. Let him focus on his batting and give the captaincy to someone who has the right mindset.
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Not going to happen. Ramiz will stick with Babar
 
He should be sacked ASAP

A terrible leader with terrible selections. How does someone like Salman Ali Agha , Mohammad Nawaz and Zahid Mahmood get to play test cricket?
 
The captain in the game of Cricket sets the tone and culture of the team. Babar is a hundred percent for our debacles in test cricket and even in limited overs cricket
 
Gullycricket said:
Clueless thread from no surprise whom . Only batsman who is assured of his spot and lifts this mediocre team with his batting should be removed as captain. Which will make us Australia of 2000.
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You should have waited for the Test to finish brother
 
One of the most horrible team selections I have seen in many years with so many bits & pieces and clueless players:
1. Playing with only 4 proper batsman, Imam, Abdullah, Babar & Saud and 2 out of these 4 are totally new
2. Playing without any proper fast bowler, Faheem is an all rounder with medium pace, Mohammed Ali is good for nothing
3. Zahid Mehmood is the most ineffective bowler I have seen. Neither he takes wickets nor he control runs
4. Nawaz: Not sure about his role, whether he is playing as a bowler or allrounder. He is not an allrounder and in bowling he should have been brought as first change but he was used as a part time bowler when all others failed except Abrar
5. Salman Agha has nothing to offer in test cricket
6. Rizwan doesn't want to work in his weakness and living in a different world. He is also poor advisor of DRS

After seeing above team selection, I don't see any reason to keep out Shan, Sarfraz & Waseem junior
 
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Rana said:
You should have waited for the Test to finish brother
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Tell me how he has done poorly in this test. Should he teach others also how to bat or put some common sense into Faheem who was giving strike to tailenders on the first ball of the over. The rot runs deep and no captian can change it. Babar is the only person who has an assured spot in this team and isn't injury prone.
 
Who can replace Babar Azam as pakistan test captain?

Abdullah shafiq is new ,imam ul haq has not yet cemented his place in the side. Azhar ali is on his last legs , Shaheen shah is a fast bowler and will need rest some times. There is Mohammad Rizwan who isn't performing well in test cricket snd honestly i would prefer babar azam over rizwan anyway. Pakistan will have to continue with babar azam as there is no replacement at the moment. What we need is a good qualified coach and rid ourselves of Ramiz Raja who wants t20 players in our test team ,we dont even have t20 players for our t20 team.
 
You have no replacement or alternative is the easiest cop out and excuse to stick with mediocrity.

Babar is not going to change or improve much with a new coach. He has now worked with Misbah, Saqlain, Wasim Akram and has looked poor every time.

Not all good batsmen end up becoming good captains ie Tendulkar, Lara, Root etc.

Pakistan needs Babar more as a batsman. Even as a batsman he has a lot to prove in all formats, he needs to be scoring big daddy hundreds and taking Pakistan to victory. He is risking his career by carrying on with the captaincy for which he is clearly unsuited 3 years into the job.

Each and every moment and decision you make as captain ie selections, bowling changes, field placings, team strategy, match strategy is vital where incompetence and mediocrity cannot be tolerated forever.
 
People in the corporate world are held accountable and terminated brutally if they don't do their job for one year and then we have Babar Azam, three years in charge, win, loss, doesn't matter, there is no alternative, he has to continue as captain. Sums up the mediocrity in Pakistan Cricket and why players remain in mediocre comfort zones.
 
I would go with Shaheen. He should be fit by next series. Vice captain Saud Shakeel.

For odi and t20 make shadab captain with vice captain shaheen.
 
Savak said:
You have no replacement or alternative is the easiest cop out and excuse to stick with mediocrity.

Babar is not going to change or improve much with a new coach. He has now worked with Misbah, Saqlain, Wasim Akram and has looked poor every time.

Not all good batsmen end up becoming good captains ie Tendulkar, Lara, Root etc.

Pakistan needs Babar more as a batsman. Even as a batsman he has a lot to prove in all formats, he needs to be scoring big daddy hundreds and taking Pakistan to victory. He is risking his career by carrying on with the captaincy for which he is clearly unsuited 3 years into the job.

Each and every moment and decision you make as captain ie selections, bowling changes, field placings, team strategy, match strategy is vital where incompetence and mediocrity cannot be tolerated forever.
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Then what is your solution?
 
mon858 said:
I would go with Shaheen. He should be fit by next series. Vice captain Saud Shakeel.

For odi and t20 make shadab captain with vice captain shaheen.
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Shaheen is playing all three formats and is injury prone - horrible idea
 
Shadab in lois and rizwan in test cricket are the only possible replacements as of now
 
It took Wasim Akram one season to tell Babar to take a hike from Karachi Kings. But expect the incompetent PCB to do things differently
 
Gullycricket said:
Tell me how he has done poorly in this test. Should he teach others also how to bat or put some common sense into Faheem who was giving strike to tailenders on the first ball of the over. The rot runs deep and no captian can change it. Babar is the only person who has an assured spot in this team and isn't injury prone.
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Well, he can start by not leaving the reversing ball outside off
 
The unnecessary hate Babar gets is unreal. It reminds me of my childhood memories with Sachin's captaincy. Why is it difficult to admit that England is far superior test side than Pakistan?
 
Rana said:
Well, he can start by not leaving the reversing ball outside off
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Come on man, the ball was miles outside the off stump. It reversed back absolutely prodigiously.

If this had been a Pakistan bowler, you would be praising him and sending your commiserations to the English batter.
 
Rana said:
Well, he can start by not leaving the reversing ball outside off
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James said:
Come on man, the ball was miles outside the off stump. It reversed back absolutely prodigiously.

If this had been a Pakistan bowler, you would be praising him and sending your commiserations to the English batter.
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More than reversing, the ball certaincly hit a crack. Root was pointing at the exact point where the ball pitched.
But hating is blind, so Rana you are right continue to hate.
 
Savak said:
It took Wasim Akram one season to tell Babar to take a hike from Karachi Kings. But expect the incompetent PCB to do things differently
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Wasim reads & judges these tactics quite well. Wasim Akram in Asia Cup in a post-match discussion openly commented about Rizwan playing all 20 overs with mediocre strike rate and then he received backlash from some fans at that time.
 
Mobashir said:
More than reversing, the ball certaincly hit a crack. Root was pointing at the exact point where the ball pitched.
But hating is blind, so Rana you are right continue to hate.
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Yes. Im not sure what some viewers expect here. Do they think Pakistan will never lose a wicket ever again? It’s a contest between bat and ball. That is the nature of the game.
 
Abdullah in Tests
Shadab in ODIs / T20s

Abdullah is intelligent he will learn and actually understands cricket.
 
NO VIABLE OPTIONS OTHER THAN BABAR ATM GLARING REALITY

Rather than replacing captain we are better off finding a couple of lethal pacers and rock solid batsman
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Its the only option.

Thats why I think we need to stick with Babar ane instead of changing the captain, change the coach.
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Shan masood isnt even a certain in the side let alone be the captain , i wouldnt mind him after he plays 3 series on a trot and scores decently.

There is no other option at the moment other than babar but surely the coach should be changed. And for Gods sake change the selector. We are picking up bowlers from PSL.
 
Babar Azam cannot last like this.

Captaincy, team selection etc - all under scrutiny now
 
I think he is giving a run to Muhammad yousaf as pakistans worst test captain ever.
 
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