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That's an interesting one...
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Babar Azam versus Lokesh Rahul
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That's an interesting one...
Split personality stuff may be
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I don't think any comparison threads are closed lol. It keeps getting bumped up. If Faheem scores a century definitely that thread will be bumped up. Four scenarios where these kind of threads are bumped
A vs B
A failing in a match
B failing in a match
A doing well in a match
B doing well in a match
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Players with great self-preservation skills always prevail not the most gifted or technically sound. Not saying Rahul is technically sound. He has a lot of holes. He is not the same as his namesake technically. Guys like Dhoni, Smith are examples. It may not be copybook technique. But has excellent survival skills. KL Rahul completely lacks that in addition to technical weaknesses. He can still work on it and come back. That is in the hands of team management. With so many guys waiting i very much doubt he will keep getting chances until he finds his rhythm.
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Because he was competing for a spot with Dhawan and Sharma and they are far too consistent to give up their spot in ODIs.
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Its not a fair comparison.
Rahul is a once in many decades level talent. He is in a different league of class.
Rahul is a once in many decades level talent. He is in a different league of class.
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Stop overhyping him.
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Believe the hype
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I think Rahul is a better player in T20I
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Babar being no 1 in this format is one of the reasons why T20 rankings can't be taken seriously. I mean in terms of quality and match winning ability there are at least a dozen bats who are better than him in this shortest format of the game.
Why are you still salty about it?
The fact is that he IS no.1. If anyone was better than him then they should have been no.1 (barring Kohli).
But they're not.
T20is isn't just for tulaybaazi. In the UAE, Babar's tactic of playing out the 20 overs worked. So he had a lot of success.
Power hitting ability? Lol
So you want people like Pant who hit one six and get out to be no.1?
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They use the same formula for all 3 rankings. Average will always be the biggest factor that will decide the ranking.
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Rahul is a match winner
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I am allergic to seeing non deserving players sitting cozy at the top is all. Babar at best can give you consistent knocks with a decent click of 130. He is good for setting up a 160 or chasing a total 150ish. Excellent by Pakistani standard, decent at best by world standard. Doesn't have that extra gear or game changing ability. Did I not teach you about the ranking methods just the other day?
Dunno about tulleybazi but t20 is not for run of the mill accumulators. Playing under strength teams in sluggish uae pitches or bashing silapama and Junior Dala abroad may contribute to ranking points but not a good indicator of player quality.
Why did you bring Pant unnecessarily? Pant has a better record than the specialist bat Babar in the grandest format of the game.
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You've already jinxed him to oblivion. Who's next?
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In Indian team alone there are 3 bats comfortably better than Babar in t20. Kohli, Rohit and Rahul. Not even counting teams like Eng, Aus, NZ or Windies.
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He most definitely is.
The same Dala took 7 wickets against you in 2018. If he was so easy to face, why did you batsmen struggle to face him in the 2nd and 3rd t20?
I've explained to you many times why Babar has a Strike rate of 130.
Looks like you're unable to comprehend.
He has a strike rate of 130 because (read it carefully) he plays in the UAE. Not that HARD to understand huh? It's just not sensible to play with a strike rate of 150+ in the UAE as it's not needed.
Tell me how many 200+ run scores have to made in the UAE.
Also, Babar scored 50+ against Aus in the 1st T20i with a strike rate of 150+ and scored two consecutive fifties. What else do you want him to do? Lol
Just say you're salty that Kohli or Rohit aren't at the top spot and we can end this discussion right here.
Really? Lol
In 2019, he has a strike rate of 136.6 which is, ironically, lower than Babar's 2019 strike rate of 137. He also has a lower average too than babar
As Babar's played most of his T20is away from home in 2019 (unlike in the previous 2-3 years), this strike rate comparison is a fair one to make.
I dont know why Rahul gets hyped after playing a useless innings against a useless bowling attack. Babar scored 98 off 60 vs W.I at Lahore. The main reason Babar is'nt having a high sr is because he has played most of his innings on the dead pitches of UAE. Just look at his t20 sr in SENA for a proof of this FACT.
Rahul played at a below par sr in both the 1st and last t20 and it was Kohli who made up for him.
Had Babar been playing his t20 cricket in India. His sr would have been over 135. Rahul is giving false hope for his fans
Rahul played at a below par sr in both the 1st and last t20 and it was Kohli who made up for him.
Had Babar been playing his t20 cricket in India. His sr would have been over 135. Rahul is giving false hope for his fans
When Babar scores against WI, he's a minnow basher
When Rahul scores against WI, he becomes a GOAT
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You can't just selectively cut and paste stats dude, that is called stats manipulation. Rahul had an awful year, his form and confidence has been shattered to bits and even at his lowest point he is still able to match Babar. In terms of sheer ability and stroke making Rahul is far ahead, I don't think Babar can ever make t20 ton with 200+ strike rate, he just doesn't have it in him. Babar is a limited t20 bat but good by Pak standard, not sure why it is so hard to swallow.
When was the last time Rahul played in the UAE?
He's been playing on dead tracks since he started his T20i career.
If he'd been playing in the UAE, I'm sure (with the way he plays) he wouldn't have succeeded
Also, i literally gave you the reason why I chose 2019 specifically but still you don't understand lol.
Is there a way to measure how much "ability" a player has?
What're the units for that measurement?
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When on song, Rahul makes Babar look like a gully cricketer.
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No wonder he's rarely on song
I doubt Rahul could replicate Babar's 100 against NZ in the WC.
So I don't know what Rahul being "on song" even means. Scoring a 90 against a weak bowling attack is now referred to as being "on song"?
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Okay, I guess I will have to educate you all over again. Alright, here you go.
Dala took 7 wks with a economy of 10, if you think that is struggle, you need to watch more cricket. For the love of God dude we won that series fair and square lol. Ballads has been written on Babar's exploits in SA while in reality he couldn't win a single match there. Such is the pathetic state of your batting culture that a few flashy drives and couple of half tons in losing causes are celebrated like there is no tomorrow. Which once again reinforces my argument, that Babar is no match winner outside UAE. hell the one match Pak actually won babar contributed the least in that, enough said.
UAE is a paradise for players with limited ability, the den of attritional cricket. A place where Imad friggin Wasim becomes unplayable. Babar made a T20 career out of bashing second string teams in UAE where 60 of 48 is a match winning knock. His lack of power game will be further exposed on true pitches, he will still be scoring zero impact 50 of 35 Pak will continue to lose and you guys will be overjoyed to see his average remains intact.
This is typical minnow level worldview, "My team was thrashed face down in the muck so what? at least pyara Bobby made two fifties" lol. Almost as if you guys subconsciously accepted that he can only score soft 50s in losing causes.
Nothing to be salty about something that has no credibility, everyone knows Kohli and Rohit are leagues above Babar, anyone thinks otherwise is either trolling or special.
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True dat...Rahul is amongst the finest strokemakers in the circuit.
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Rohit and Dhawan murdered your trundlers in the same UAE scoring at 8 per over for fun lol. Rahul played against AFG last Asia cup, played a much fluent knock. Point is when Indian batsmen are on song they will make UAE look like Chinnaswamy, can't say the same about Babar. UAE or no UAE he lacks that x factor, that extra gear and match winning ability.
Kohli and Rohit are obviously better than Babar but Rahul isnt and anyone who thinks that is delusional. If you replace Kohli with Hussain Talat in 1st and last T20 then Ind would not have won any of those t20s. It is Kohli who is a match winner not Rahul. Tell me one match which Rahul won for India.
Following ate Kohli match winning innings I can think of staright out of my head
81 vs Aus
55 vs Pak
49 vs Pak
94 vs W.i
Rahul was never a match winner. Babar is atleast in UAE
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He's shots are breath taking.
Rahul played slowly in the whole series vs W.I. Which gear are you talking about?
Firstly, Babar was batting first in all three t20is against Aus. I don't see how it was his fault that we didn't win the match. Was he chasing?
So this claim of "soft fifties" is a daft one.
Also, you're claiming that he doesn't have the power hitting ability. But he's been scoring at a strike rate of 140+ consistently in 2019.
Was all of that a fluke (a word that you Indians fancy a lot)?
He hasn't played a lot of true pitches yet so how can you make the assumption that he'll fail?
Also, your claim that the UAE is paradise for players with limited ability is only true if the players you're talking about are bowlers.
You're just contradicting yourself by saying that Imad Wasim becomes unplayable and then you say Babar's only scoring on the UAE pitches and that he'll fail on true pitches.
Where's the logic? Lol
If the pitches in the UAE make Imad Wasim (a mediocre player) unplayable, shouldn't that make Babar's 50s in the UAE even more impressive than if he had scored them on flat pitches?
Come up with better arguments buddy
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When did Babar helped setting up 240 against Windies? I don't think he can do that against Zimbabwe. Not everyone has to be like Kohli or AB. Rahul doesn't have Babar's maturity and mental fortitude likewise Babar can't match Rahul in terms of destructive batting or game changing ability. We should just accept that and move on.
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Give Babar the flatbeds and postage stamp boundaries of the Wankhede and he would smash knocks like these too.
Babar scored 98 off 60 vs W.I
Is this the part of the thread where we say Rahul is better than Babar now, since he's just made a series winning 91? I wouldn't be surprised if it'd be tempting for some, especially if Babar flops in this current test match.
For me Babar is miles ahead in terms of consistency across all formats, but Rahul is more dangerous when he is on song.
For me Babar is miles ahead in terms of consistency across all formats, but Rahul is more dangerous when he is on song.
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Dude he is going through a career threatening bad patch still going at 160+ clicks. Don't talk like you have Roy and Russells warming bench for you.
Rahul wasn't the reason you scored 240 lol
Rohit and kohli's innings were the reason. Both played at a strike rate of 200+ (the latter had a strike rate of 240) . While Rahul played at a strike rate of only 160.
Looks like your maths is weak coz 1.6 * 120 = 192, which is 48 runs less than your final total. Rahul scored at a far lower strike rate than your whole innings so how was he the reason you scored 240?
If the others had scored at a similar rate, you would have scored only 190-200 (a score that Babar has contributed towards scoring a few times at least).
Look up Babar's match against WI in 2017 where he scored 97 off 58 balls to set up a score of 200+. HE was the reason we got to 200 in that match. The bowling attack wasn't very strong but according to you Babar couldn't even do it against Zimbabwe so I guess it fits that criteria.
You're acting as if Rahul scored 120-130 out of your team total of 240.
You're really starting to clutch at straws now
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Even Joe Root, who can’t even get in to an IPL team, has one of the ATG T20 innings at the Wankhede chasing down 200+ against South Africa. The ground is an absolute joke.
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Bro I genuinely want you to learn more about cricket. Since I don't have time to spoon feed now, I will throw you a clue, see if you can figure it out yourself. Hasn't Pak been producing the greenest of tracks for domestic cricket? at least until Wasim Khan? Didn't those pitches made trundlers look like world beaters averaging in the sub 20s? So your domestic bats who are playing on those pitches and still scoring runs must be out of this world and immune to all kinds of swing and seam movements right? Must be breaking all mortal records when they play international cricket on sporting pitches, are they?
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No one scored a lot, which is why they changed the tracks.
Also, why are you comparing domestic cricket with this?
Are you that desperate??
I'm done with this. You just don't seem/want to understand. So I'm out.
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My math is pretty okay considering I am making a decent living based on it. At the risk of sounding rude I'd have to say the issue lies in your comprehension. I said he 'Helped', if you think he hasn't contributed despite scoring the highest run then I guess continuing this discussion isn't really worth my time. He is awarded man of the match for crying out loud.
Yes Babar scored at a 165+ strike rate good for him and that is his ceiling. I don't think he can score a century at 200+ strike rate. I would even accept PSL examples if you have one.
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You shouldn't run away from genuine learning opportunities.
I only brought your domestic pitches since you implied that since Babar was winning you in UAE he is able do the same everywhere. It doesn't work like that at all.
Your comprehension is quite off too.
Read what I wrote again.
Babar has scored 90+ scores in his t20i career just because no one around him has been able to play a kohli-esque innings with Babar, does that make his innings inferior to Rahul's?
So you're telling me Babar's 97 off 58 balls is inferior to Rahul's 91 off 56 balls just because your team scored 240 and we scored 200??
My question was:
Was Rahul THE reason why you scored 240?the answer is no he wasn't. Even babar has given this much help to his team, and he's done it multiple times too
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Do you know the players involved in that match? Peak Amla, DeKok, AB, Faf, Duminy, Miller, Roy, Stokes, Root and Butler. No ground is big enough if players of their caliber decides to have a game to remember.
So you're telling me the bowling quality in domestic cricket will be the same as the bowling quality in International cricket?
A domestic player on a seaming wicket will perform, more times than not, worse than an international bowler even if the international bowler had been bowling on a flat deck. There is a difference in quality.
For example, Sami Aslam will find it harder to face international bowlers on a flat deck compared to domestic bowlers on a difficult wicket even though the latter would be bowling on a more helpful track.
So using that to undermine Babar's innings in the UAE is just daft. If he can smack Boult for example on a difficult wicket in the UAE, you think he can't smack Boult on a flat deck?
)Your logic is WAY off
That makes my claim even more genuine
So many players were able to have a memorable match IN THE SAME match because all of them managed to perform lol.
This reminds of when Aus chased down 240 vs NZ on that kids cricket sized ground.
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Considering how desperate you are comparing Rahul's potentially career saving innings with Babar's best till date, I must admit I am impressed by your passion if only you had better logic to back that up. Why are you so fixated on this innings? Rahul scored thunderous tons against Eng and WI away, has Babar done anything close to that? You know you lost the argument when you are comparing Rahul's desperate innings amidst a career threatening bad patch with Babar's best innings till date.
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Do you think Pak is able to chase down 225+ even on a school ground? Show some respect
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His knock may have come against a weak attack bit it wasn't useless. His team won and he got a Man of the Match.
Useless inning was the one Babar played against SL which lead to his team getting whitewashed by a side which was made up of players who were just willing to travel Pakistan
Thunderous tons yeah?
The ton against Eng I admit was pretty good but the one against WI in the US?
)Nah.
You got smashed for 245 in that match. The pitch was flat AF.
Stuart "the naagin slayer" Binny got smacked for 32 in one over in that match lol
Also, what's with this "desperate innings" **.
Rahul secured his place with his first T20i score. Nothing about this innings was at a time when he was "desperate"
Did you miss out the "98 off 60" on purpose?
Or are you selecting what you like and ignoring what you don't?
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So you're telling me the bowling quality in domestic cricket will be the same as the bowling quality in International cricket?
A domestic player on a seaming wicket will perform, more times than not, worse than an international bowler even if the international bowler had been bowling on a flat deck. There is a difference in quality.
For example, Sami Aslam will find it harder to face international bowlers on a flat deck compared to domestic bowlers on a difficult wicket even though the latter would be bowling on a more helpful track.
So using that to undermine Babar's innings in the UAE is just daft. If he can smack Boult for example on a difficult wicket in the UAE, you think he can't smack Boult on a flat deck?
Your logic is WAY off
Way to miss the point!! Arey bhai did you at least read what I have been writing? or you just auto looking for keywords and typing response? Babar is perfectly capable of scoring at a decent click anywhere in the world against any attack, just that he has a ceiling which is not that high as far as t20 cricket is concerned, so when he plays against better teams on true pitches, his decent knocks doesn't turn out to be match winning since opposition bats can easily outdo him on sporting pitches, but they usually can't do the same in UAE as they are not accustomed to playing on sluggish pitches.How hard is that to understand man?
If that makes your day better, yes he can smack Boult anywhere, good Lord!!
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Thunderous tons yeah?
The ton against Eng I admit was pretty good but the one against WI in the US?
Nah.
You got smashed for 245 in that match. The pitch was flat AF.
Stuart "the naagin slayer" Binny got smacked for 32 in one over in that match lol
Also, what's with this "desperate innings" **.
Rahul secured his place with his first T20i score. Nothing about this innings was at a time when he was "desperate"
Now you are clearly trolling. Pretty bad considering i have invested so much of my time already on you. What is so laughable about flat pitches? If PCB had seen the light a decade back and produced flat pitches for domestics your team wouldn't be filled with strokeless wonders like today.
Rahul's place is not secure even now lol. Already dropped from test and ODI, do you think he wouldn't be desperate enough to keep his place in the only format that has not been touched by bad patch yet?
Imad "freakin " wasim is a joke ...babar will hopefully not end up being one ..... a true cricket fan/enthusiastwill know/understand the difference in time ....
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I think it's fair to say that Rahul and Babar are completely different batsmen.
Babar cannot chase any high scores on any ground and that will REMAIN A FACT UNTIL HE DOES. Infact, the proof is on the opposite side, when he chugged away at a useless century while chasing 360 against Australia in an ODI because that was his ceiling. Babar is more a of a complete player, as he will almost guaranteed hit you a 50 every match, but most of the times it won't define the match. However, it will ALWAYS BE useful innings in the context of the game.
Rahul is more of a hit and miss player. If he fires, he WILL DEFINE THE MOMENTUM of the match and will decide the fate of the match more often than not. Rahul has a higher ceiling chasing or setting scores because he is more aggressive naturally. Rahul however WILL FLOP MORE TIMES than Babar because of his stroke making ability.
In a team like India, which has a rich heritage of batsmen, Rahul is almost a luxury. If he fires, he will win you the match. If he doesn't, you have Rohit or Kohli to change the complexion of the game. Pant can hack around a few as well and then upcoming Prithvi Shaw is a huge talent.
However, in team like Pakistan, Babar is almost a necessity. If you don't have Babar, we are collapsing to 150 all out almost every match.
I can see why Pakistanis tend to over-rate Babar, who might be a great player someday, but at the moment is a better consolidator than a match defining winner, and I can see why Indians don't rate him that highly.
And that is precisely the reason Indian tend to over-rate Rahul because they have way too many consolidators in the past.
In my opinion, I would take Rahul but only because I like aggressive stroke makers more than pretty consolidators in any situation in any match.
Kohli and Rohit are in another league and anyone who thinks Babar is close to them should get his head checked.
Babar cannot chase any high scores on any ground and that will REMAIN A FACT UNTIL HE DOES. Infact, the proof is on the opposite side, when he chugged away at a useless century while chasing 360 against Australia in an ODI because that was his ceiling. Babar is more a of a complete player, as he will almost guaranteed hit you a 50 every match, but most of the times it won't define the match. However, it will ALWAYS BE useful innings in the context of the game.
Rahul is more of a hit and miss player. If he fires, he WILL DEFINE THE MOMENTUM of the match and will decide the fate of the match more often than not. Rahul has a higher ceiling chasing or setting scores because he is more aggressive naturally. Rahul however WILL FLOP MORE TIMES than Babar because of his stroke making ability.
In a team like India, which has a rich heritage of batsmen, Rahul is almost a luxury. If he fires, he will win you the match. If he doesn't, you have Rohit or Kohli to change the complexion of the game. Pant can hack around a few as well and then upcoming Prithvi Shaw is a huge talent.
However, in team like Pakistan, Babar is almost a necessity. If you don't have Babar, we are collapsing to 150 all out almost every match.
I can see why Pakistanis tend to over-rate Babar, who might be a great player someday, but at the moment is a better consolidator than a match defining winner, and I can see why Indians don't rate him that highly.
And that is precisely the reason Indian tend to over-rate Rahul because they have way too many consolidators in the past.
In my opinion, I would take Rahul but only because I like aggressive stroke makers more than pretty consolidators in any situation in any match.
Kohli and Rohit are in another league and anyone who thinks Babar is close to them should get his head checked.
Doc ..... i could not agree with you more ,...... if you permit me the freedom ( assuming you are a real doc) ... i would suggest you do the head examining of folks who do the babar/virat comparison
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Fair assessment. Roles are different. KL Rahul is more like Aaron Finch, Adam Hales. In for setting the tone for the rest of the line up.
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In ODIs:
Babar >>> Rahul
In Tests:
Babar >> Rahul
In T20is:
Babar >>> Rahul (for their consistency)
Babar <<< Rahul (for their power hitting ability)
In T20is, both players play different roles for their respective sides. Babar is given the role of playing the full 20 overs while Rahul has the role of a hard-hitting batsman.
I agree with [MENTION=148927]Hyperion66[/MENTION] here as Babar hasn't won a single game yet single-handedly for Pakistan against a SENA side away in T20is.
We could have labelled his 50s against Australia as match-winning if Pakistan had won those matches but they didn't.
This doesn't mean Babar will not develop into a hard-hitting batsman. He can but he has to show us by hitting quickfire 50s, 60s and 70+ scores. Scoring 50 off 40 is not good enough in Australia, South Africa or England.
Babar >>> Rahul
In Tests:
Babar >> Rahul
In T20is:
Babar >>> Rahul (for their consistency)
Babar <<< Rahul (for their power hitting ability)
In T20is, both players play different roles for their respective sides. Babar is given the role of playing the full 20 overs while Rahul has the role of a hard-hitting batsman.
I agree with [MENTION=148927]Hyperion66[/MENTION] here as Babar hasn't won a single game yet single-handedly for Pakistan against a SENA side away in T20is.
We could have labelled his 50s against Australia as match-winning if Pakistan had won those matches but they didn't.
This doesn't mean Babar will not develop into a hard-hitting batsman. He can but he has to show us by hitting quickfire 50s, 60s and 70+ scores. Scoring 50 off 40 is not good enough in Australia, South Africa or England.
You are wrong because Babar has already shown us that he can score quickfire scores. He scored highly against WI in 2018 at a strike rate of above 180+.
Is that not enough hard hitting for you??
Do you want him to score at 300+ or 600+?
He should hit every ball for six and that will be enough?? Huh???
Then you're going to say why doesn't he hit every ball for 20 runs
)[MENTION=148927]Hyperion66[/MENTION] you are making no sense at all Come up with facts to prove me wrong because I can say with confidence that Babar is a lot better than rahul and you're here just to prove that Rahul is trying to save his t20i spot
)You have no evidence bring some then talk to me
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You are wrong because Babar has already shown us that he can score quickfire scores. He scored highly against WI in 2018 at a strike rate of above 180+.
Is that not enough hard hitting for you??
Do you want him to score at 300+ or 600+?
He should hit every ball for six and that will be enough?? Huh???
Then you're going to say why doesn't he hit every ball for 20 runs
[MENTION=148927]Hyperion66[/MENTION] you are making no sense at all Come up with facts to prove me wrong because I can say with confidence that Babar is a lot better than rahul and you're here just to prove that Rahul is trying to save his t20i spot
You have no evidence bring some then talk to me
Actually forget Rahul.
There are tons of batsmen in T20's including Maxwell, Buttler, Rohit, Kohli who have more impact in T20's than Babar but probably are less consistent than Babar in scoring because of their style of play. T20's is totally about impact and Babar has had one innings possibly against WI that had some impact. Most of the times he plays it safe, till he gets to 50 odd runs.
Heck, even an aging Afridi would have more impact in chasing 180 plus than Babar.
I'll ask you a serious question.
Would you pick Babar if Pakistan had to chase 210 runs in a T20 given the choice between Rohit, Kohli, Warner, Finch, Maxwell and other gun strikers of the ball?
Your answer will tell me everything.
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Simple. Let us put nationalities aside for a second.
If Imran Khan (the Legend himself) was captaining a T20 side, and his team has to chase 200+, and he has to pick one of Rahul or Babar - who would he pick?
Maybe I am wearing coloured glasses, but my money would be on KL.
If Imran Khan (the Legend himself) was captaining a T20 side, and his team has to chase 200+, and he has to pick one of Rahul or Babar - who would he pick?
Maybe I am wearing coloured glasses, but my money would be on KL.
I would pick Rohit definitely and Kohli or Warner as my second opener.
Only because Babar hasn't shown the ability to strike big at a big stage but that doesn't mean he can't. We saw a glimpse of it against WI
It'll become clear in the T20 WC how Impactful he is
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Rahul played amazing today but you have to take in the fact it’s at the wankhede and only time will tell t20 World Cup is not far away
Rahul will score less than Babar in the 2020 T20WC at a lower strike rate too
MARK MY WORDS.
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babar is far better than this fraud Rahul. He is trash in tests. average in odi.
good in t20 but not as good as babar.
good in t20 but not as good as babar.
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R u indian ?
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COrrectly summarized. He is going to be a consistent player. Not going to be a dangerous player. He is a small framed guy like Rahane. He relies a lot on timing and placement. Neither has the bat speed of Maxwell nor the brute power of Finch. once in a while can score quickly as Rahul Dravid did. In his defense in a team like Pakistan he cannot play the role of Kohli and also Maxwell. Guys like Fakar, Asif have to do their respective roles so that they complement each other.
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I know what you are referring to but Pak has a record of 5 consecutive 180+ scores and Babar had a role in them.
Also just taking into account big chases is slightly narrow perspective of evaluating things. What about regular chases of 150+, who will you rather have Babar or Rahul as that chase would not only require decent SR but good solidity and consistency as well. What about chasing on a difficult wicket when other batsmen are falling? Also not to forget probability of chasing more than 200s and probability of faltering while chasing 150-170, probability of chasing 200+ is gonna be less always and Rahul maybe once in a blue moon can achieve that but at the same time he is more likely to falter against good teams while chasing not so much. Both are T20 batsmen though, no doubt about it and Rahul on his day can get a good score at a higher SR due to multiple factors.
I think Babar provides bit more in overall aspects than Rahul but again its very subjective and arguable when comparing them both in T20s. Few of Rahul's innings in T20s are really good no doubt about that but at the same time Babar's explosive game isnt dry too though it gets restricted by being the best batsmen of the team and there arent others to support him.
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Some people need to make up their mind.
Babar scored 3 consecutive hundreds at the age of 21 against the same WI, and was labelled a minnow basher, those hundreds lost their value as they were scored against the WI, etc... He even scored 98 from 60 in a T20I against the WI last year as well.
Do these runs automatically start becoming legendary knocks once Rahul plays them, or did the WI side suddenly become a great team ?
Babar scored 3 consecutive hundreds at the age of 21 against the same WI, and was labelled a minnow basher, those hundreds lost their value as they were scored against the WI, etc... He even scored 98 from 60 in a T20I against the WI last year as well.
Do these runs automatically start becoming legendary knocks once Rahul plays them, or did the WI side suddenly become a great team ?
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What counts single highhandedly winning? Scoring 50* of 29 balls @SR of 172 at Eden Park, NZ and helping his team to score 201 runs in a winning cause doesnt count as a match winning knock? He also score 90 off 58 balls in SA @ SR of 155, while Pak lost that match by 7 runs but it wasnt due to Babar not creating an impact.
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Your post will be ignored by a lot of people.
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Rahul is capable of playing utterly rubbish cricket. So i won't be shocked if that happens. Babar is more consistent. It is not even a debate. But if both are their best, KL Rahul is something. I don't like him being picky about his batting position. But with Dhawan sucking KL Rahul deserves the spot he wants.
He is way too inconsistent in other formats. In T20 resasonably good. This innings in ENgland is an example of what he can do at his best.Lot of Non Chalant strokes.
https://youtu.be/R3fRIgNOdio?t=169
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Indian/,south african.
mum is south african.
I support both. pakistan is my other favourite team after india and s.a
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