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Abdullah Rabbani

Abdullah Rabbani

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Babar Azam Vs Aiden Markram Which One Will Finish On High These Two Are Very Young And On The Path To Become Greats For There Respective Countries With There Solid Techniques But These Two Have Problem Stone In There Path Each One Is Good In Single Format And Struggle To Perform In Other Format First Babar Azam Which Is Good Batsman In Limited Overs Not In Test And Other Is Good In Tests And Bad In Limited Overs Game HOW They Solve This Problem And Whats Your Suggestion For Them Following Are The Stats.

BABAR AZAM
T20I 20 :R 742 Average 53.00
ODI 50 :R 2129 Average 51.92
TEST 14 :R 648 Average 28.17

AIDEN MARKRAM
T20I: Not Yet Debut
ODI 13:R 320 Average 24.45
TEST 12:R 1040 Average 47.21
 
I will take Markram. He has failed in the India-SA recent series. But he did show a lot of promise. Looked good until he got out quickly.
 
Young days for both but if I have to make a bet, it will be Markram.
 
Markram has problems against spin. But I am sure he could sort them out. Still unfair to bash Babar. Markram so far in his test career has been a HTB.
 
Though I must say that Markram has immense potential and is very pleasing on the eye.
 
Markham was SA leading run scorer in the only home series SA won ever vs Australia.

Babar is a good player as well. A great battle in next few years ahead.
 
Markham is a very good prospect. Babar is another great talent. Difficult to call as I haven't seen enough of Markham to make a fair judgement.
 
Don't know who this Markhram lad is but pretty sure he will be better than Babar who is the king of cheap runs against SL and WI.
 
Markram has that authority about him.and can impose. He can be the next SA captain and could be like Smith.
Babar is more softer and is in the Amla mould. Both of them are young and have the potential to score.
In 5 years time I see both of them leading their sides in all formats and being the best batsmen in their teams. Overall, I think Babar will score more runs than Markram but Markram will win more games for his country
 
rhony said:
Markram has that authority about him.and can impose. He can be the next SA captain and could be like Smith.
Babar is more softer and is in the Amla mould. Both of them are young and have the potential to score.
In 5 years time I see both of them leading their sides in all formats and being the best batsmen in their teams. Overall, I think Babar will score more runs than Markram but Markram will win more games for his country
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Markram is an U-19 world cup winning captain. He was also the MOTS in that WC.

He has been earmarked for leadership for years now. He was made captain against India for the ODI series in 2018 when Faf was out with injury.
 
Azam should come good. He's has the wherewithal, and not always do players hit the ground running.

What I like about him is that he has the calm air of Azhar Ali but also has the shots. Success isn't far in the longer format.
 
Babar any day.Markram is good but a choker like Ab,Faf who will soon get involved in silly runouts in crucial matches
 
Aiden markram has got to improve his game against spin.
And also learn to construct an ODI innings.

Babar looks more well-rounded at the moment.
I think Babar is going to come good in tests very soon.
 
Babar easily. Markram was a colossal failure in overseas test. I rate home stats in tests lower than T20Is.
 
At this point, Markram is several leagues ahead of Babar in tests.

In odis, Babar is well ahead thanks to bashing SL and WI otherwise an avg of 38@SR 82 don't speak much.

In T20s, Babar is good but not someone whom you would like to go with because he can't score fast and win you matches.

Overall, for future potential, my bet will be the South African over a Pakistani.
 
Ab Fan said:
At this point, Markram is several leagues ahead of Babar in tests.

In odis, Babar is well ahead thanks to bashing SL and WI otherwise an avg of 38@SR 82 don't speak much.

In T20s, Babar is good but not someone whom you would like to go with because he can't score fast and win you matches.

Overall, for future potential, my bet will be the South African over a Pakistani.
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I like Makram but he could not even score well against Zim. He is a good player that hopefully will not turn out to be a HTB. His performance in Sri Lanka was atrocious and he needs to improve that aspect of his game.

Babar has at least been great against WI, Sri and Zim. Whilst having a few decent averages against other teams. And Babar does his job in T20’s that ensures the batting does not collapse and we defend the total. Obviously this probably won’t work on truer pitch’s but it still means he has some impact.
 
The Viper said:
I like Makram but he could not even score well against Zim. He is a good player that hopefully will not turn out to be a HTB. His performance in Sri Lanka was atrocious and he needs to improve that aspect of his game.

Babar has at least been great against WI, Sri and Zim. Whilst having a few decent averages against other teams. And Babar does his job in T20’s that ensures the batting does not collapse and we defend the total. Obviously this probably won’t work on truer pitch’s but it still means he has some impact.
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He is young. Performing in Asian conditions is a tough test for non-Asian batsmen. At this time, unfair to count that against him. But he did well against an Australia attack in SA conditions. How many SA players have fared well in SA against Australia? Look at averages of Kallis, Smith, Kirsten and Amla, that explains us.

Overall, it all comes down to potential rather than who has done what at this age.

Babar is doing a good job in LOs no doubt on it.
 
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Few Month's Back Every One Saying Fakhar Is More Impact Player Than Babar But Babar's Consistency Make Past Of FZ
 
Makram is unforunate in that he lost one of atg in develliers and is paired with an out of form/declined amla. In about 8-10 matches so much happened for that fellow. The thought of two established seniors right behind your back is a very good thing to have.

To bounce back from that will take time as SA is in transition now. But he will come good. He has that spirit I believe. As for ODIs, I am not sure.

But what can anyone say, if someone backs him the way raina, rohit, jadeja were backed for 5-7 years, he might become a SA great by the time he retires.

Babar already has a team in transition when he entered the cricket arena, he seems to be in his elements now. It needs to be seen if he can carry his form against a top ranked side in tests too. Again decock started in a smilar manner, he is struggling to find a boundary for the last 1 year or so. So, it will be good to compare them after 2-3 years, when both would have completed 5 years in international cricket.
 
Markham is not way ahead of babar in test cricket while babar is way ahead of markham in limited overs cricket. Babar azam has shown solid inprovement in test matches this year. He has averaged above 50 this year while markham has only averaged 37.

If you take away runs scored agianst wi and sri then every player's average will drop. Despite this he averages 56 against Aus 38 against Eng and 32 against Nz.
 
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Markram is average. Not sure why South Africa have banked their hopes on this guy, when they have had the likes of ABD, Amla and du Plessis represent them in the recent past.

Atleast Babar vs Rahul was a valid thread, this one is a joke.
 
Ab Fan said:
He is young. Performing in Asian conditions is a tough test for non-Asian batsmen. At this time, unfair to count that against him. But he did well against an Australia attack in SA conditions. How many SA players have fared well in SA against Australia? Look at averages of Kallis, Smith, Kirsten and Amla, that explains us.

Overall, it all comes down to potential rather than who has done what at this age.

Babar is doing a good job in LOs no doubt on it.
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True. That performance against Australia was very impressive. He sure is talented and can definitely end up as a better test player but to be great I think he needs to learn how to play spin. Even in the recent LOI series vs Aus, he showed flashes of brilliance. SA really do need him to develop due to the ages of their batsman.
 
Markram easily.Babar Azam will be a good/very good player but markram has ATG potential.
Azam will never be able to do this to a 151 kph starc delivery.
 
austerlitz said:
Markram easily.Babar Azam will be a good/very good player but markram has ATG potential.
Azam will never be able to do this to a 151 kph starc delivery.
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Wow. Babar needed Sharjeel to hold his hand and hold the innings together last time we toured Australia, once Sharjeel got out Babar felt the pressure and followed pretty quick.

But he is just a baby at 24 years old �� �� Cant expect him to win games for Pakistan right now.

Watch when he is a 34 year old MAN and all these Markrams will have faded into nobodies.
 
austerlitz said:
Markram easily.Babar Azam will be a good/very good player but markram has ATG potential.
Azam will never be able to do this to a 151 kph starc delivery.
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What are you talking about? Umar Akmal used to bash fast bowlers for fun. Where's he now? Hitting a fast bowler for a six doesn't make you an ATG.
 
austerlitz said:
Markram easily.Babar Azam will be a good/very good player but markram has ATG potential.
Azam will never be able to do this to a 151 kph starc delivery.
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Yes this shot makes him a legend. Bigger than Viv richards
 
Third Man said:
What are you talking about? Umar Akmal used to bash fast bowlers for fun. Where's he now? Hitting a fast bowler for a six doesn't make you an ATG.
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Markram is gun vs pace.Needs work vs spin,but has time on his side.I merely said azam will never be this good against pace.If starc comes at azam at 150kph...
 
austerlitz said:
Markram is gun vs pace.Needs work vs spin,but has time on his side.I merely said azam will never be this good against pace.If starc comes at azam at 150kph...
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Watching Markram bat in Sri Lanka was one of the most sorry sights I have ever seen in cricket. It was like a night-watchman opening the innings :))

There's no contest between Babar and Markram, unless Markram improves drastically. It's evident in the fact that a few people have to hold on to one shot played against pace to even justify the comparison.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Watching Markram bat in Sri Lanka was one of the most sorry sights I have ever seen in cricket. It was like a night-watchman opening the innings :))

There's no contest between Babar and Markram, unless Markram improves drastically. It's evident in the fact that a few people have to hold on to one shot played against pace to even justify the comparison.
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I saw the highlights of SA innings, it was beyond ugly. He is still young that's why I let it pass. Babar has never looked that bad anytime, anywhere
 
austerlitz said:
Markram is gun vs pace.Needs work vs spin,but has time on his side.I merely said azam will never be this good against pace.If starc comes at azam at 150kph...
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One shot is not a prove of ATG potential. And in this case the shot itself was very ugly. His head completely fell towards offside.
 
Why there is comparison between these two? One(Markram) has yet to prove anything where as other(Babar) has already proved everything.

Babar is a complete batsman and one can easily put him in the list along with Kohli, Root, Smith, Williamson.
 
ShahidDar08 said:
Why there is comparison between these two? One(Markram) has yet to prove anything where as other(Babar) has already proved everything.

Babar is a complete batsman and one can easily put him in the list along with Kohli, Root, Smith, Williamson.
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No, Babar has not proved everything. He is yet to make his mark in Test cricket.
 
Right now Babar is easily the best u-25 batsman in the world. I dont think there should be any debate.

Hemyer may catch him up soon.
 
Suleiman said:
Wow. Babar needed Sharjeel to hold his hand and hold the innings together last time we toured Australia, once Sharjeel got out Babar felt the pressure and followed pretty quick.

But he is just a baby at 24 years old �� �� Cant expect him to win games for Pakistan right now.

Watch when he is a 34 year old MAN and all these Markrams will have faded into nobodies.
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Markham is also 24 years old, btw.
 
Suleiman said:
Wow. Babar needed Sharjeel to hold his hand and hold the innings together last time we toured Australia, once Sharjeel got out Babar felt the pressure and followed pretty quick.

But he is just a baby at 24 years old �� �� Cant expect him to win games for Pakistan right now.

Watch when he is a 34 year old MAN and all these Markrams will have faded into nobodies.
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Markram is also 24 years old, btw.
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Right now Babar is easily the best u-25 batsman in the world. I dont think there should be any debate.

Hemyer may catch him up soon.
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.... Because indian counter parts can't even get a place in the senior team due to too high standard.
 
Itachi said:
.... Because indian counter parts can't even get a place in the senior team due to too high standard.
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Nobody talked about his "indian counterparts" here. You didn't have to talk about that, yet you did. Predictable, really.
 
Joseph Gomes said:
I used to be a skeptic but Babar has proved he's not a hack. It will be a shame if he declines after this.
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I have been following Babar from his 1st u-19 wc in 2010 and tbh he is only playing to 70% of his potential till now imo, he will only get better from here. Now that Haris is also in, his presence on the other end will do a world of good for Babar.
 
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SarfiBabarHaris said:
I have been following Babar from his 1st u-19 wc in 2010 and tbh he is only playing to 70% of his potential till now imo, he will only get better from here. Now that Haris is also in, his presence on the other end will do a world of good for Babar.
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I love these two haris , babar is future of Pakistan along with saad and saud what your thinking on them
 
Third Man said:
Nobody talked about his "indian counterparts" here. You didn't have to talk about that, yet you did. Predictable, really.
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Heh? That's what a forum is for. To discuss different aspect of the subject. Can't see anything wrong if I bring about players from the same genre of a different category. Why be so much under straightjacket?
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Haha ok lets see

Pakistan have few upcoming batting beauties too i-e Saud, Zeeshan, Saif, Nasir ;)
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Pakistani fans always overhype their players. On the other hand, we downplay greater achievement from the same category due to higher standard and expectations. WC 2019 and WC 2023 will show whether you were right or I.
 
Abdullah Rabbani said:
I love these two haris , babar is future of Pakistan along with saad and saud what your thinking on them
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I saw Saad one time in a one day televised match and didnt look too convincing to me but to his credit he still scored 80 odd. Had good defense and off stump game so a better test prospect imo.

Imo Saud, Zeeshan, Talat, Nasir and Saif are above in pecking order.
 
Itachi said:
Pakistani fans always overhype their players. On the other hand, we downplay greater achievement from the same category due to higher standard and expectations. WC 2019 and WC 2023 will show whether you were right or I.
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Lol i dont degrade others to praise my country's young guns so its not a war of me and I for me ;)
 
Test matches Markram is clearly ahead with 4 100's and 3 50's at an average of 40. Babar seems to be improving so won't put it behind him to catch up.

Aiden Markram has 1 ODI 50 in 16 innings and he opens the innings, that tells you enough. T20I's Babar Azam at the same age as Markram has become the fastest to 1000 runs and is number 1 in the rankings whereas Markram hasn't even played a match yet.

Babar is clearly the better batsman and most of the people going against Babar are because he is a Pakistani batsman being compared to a South African batsman. Take both players nationality out the equation and you have to choose one for your team, if you choose Markram then congratulations on losing your match.
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
I saw Saad one time in a one day televised match and didnt look too convincing to me but to his credit he still scored 80 odd. Had good defense and off stump game so a better test prospect imo.

Imo Saud, Zeeshan, Talat, Nasir and Saif are above in pecking order.
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Zeeshan , Saif & Nasir Need More Time In Domestic...

Omair Yousaf , Rohail Nazir , Nabi Gul, And Imran Rafiq Also Promising.
 
iPakistani said:
Test matches Markram is clearly ahead with 4 100's and 3 50's at an average of 40. Babar seems to be improving so won't put it behind him to catch up.

Aiden Markram has 1 ODI 50 in 16 innings and he opens the innings, that tells you enough. T20I's Babar Azam at the same age as Markram has become the fastest to 1000 runs and is number 1 in the rankings whereas Markram hasn't even played a match yet.

Babar is clearly the better batsman and most of the people going against Babar are because he is a Pakistani batsman being compared to a South African batsman. Take both players nationality out the equation and you have to choose one for your team, if you choose Markram then congratulations on losing your match.
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Well Said
 
You want to argue Babar is a minnow-basher? Fair enough. Markram has an average of 7 against Sri Lanka in 3 innings. Average of 34 vs Zimbabwe in 2 matches and a very low average of 21 against India in 6 matches.

Markram's only ever career 50 came off a game against Bangladesh. Where even Imam ul Haq managed to score 83 against them.
 
All these players will fall apart one by one in comparison with babar and in the end he ll only stand fast inshallah .Be relaxed mates and Let the Indian bros bring players one by one for comparison with babar , and see them fading one by one 😂😂😂.
 
Godhelpma said:
All these players will fall apart one by one in comparison with babar and in the end he ll only stand fast inshallah .Be relaxed mates and Let the Indian bros bring players one by one for comparison with babar , and see them fading one by one 😂😂😂.
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Hope insha'Allah
 
Btw on the debate of Ind vs Pak batsmen i do agree that Indian batsmen develop better and also agree Pakistani batsmen tend to fall and not living up to their potential due to various reasons.

But these 3 batsmen Babar, Haris and Saud will have great careers I am sure about it except for God forbid injuries. They have too much class, backing of captain/coaches and great work ethics too. These 3 are here to stay!
 
Dont understand the hype around babar azam.A good technical batsman -yes.But no team is afraid of him.Hasnt played any real noteworthy innings yet.Let him go to Aus and SA,then we'll see in tests.Let him go to WC in ODIs ,then we'll see.
 
austerlitz said:
Dont understand the hype around babar azam.A good technical batsman -yes.But no team is afraid of him.Hasnt played any real noteworthy innings yet.Let him go to Aus and SA,then we'll see in tests.Let him go to WC in ODIs ,then we'll see.
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Yet you continue to hype someone like Markram who has done nothing in comparison to Babar. Based on one shot he played against Starc, for that matter :))
 
Babar, Markram, Rahul are all great prospects. Rahul is older and has every stroke in the book but doesn't have the temperment. An excellent 20 or 30 is followed by recklessness. He also seems to have attitude issues that have made him out of favor with the Indian leadership. his reluctance to bat at 4 based on team requirement and they didn't do any favors by moving him up and down the order. Don't see a place for him until Dhawan or Rayudu are out of the team.

Markram has incredible ability based on the innings he played so far, no matter how brief they were. A future SA captain and a top order main stay in the years to come. Needs to improve his game against spin and he will. Has all the ingredients to be a great but tends to lose his concentration after a pretty 30. It's still early days for him and he will be one of the top batsmen in a couple of years. Even Kohli was very impressed with his abilities.

Babar is the only one amongst the three that has fully utilized his talents so far. Incredible consistency and the thirst for runs are his strengths. I believe he is limited in his strokeplay compared to the other two but ekes out every ounce of his abilities and has great temperment to go along with discipline.

I think Babar can be the next Williamson but strengths in LOIs as opposed to tests. He will maintain 50+ avg in LOIs, 40+ in tests and will be an LOI great when he retires.

Markram will be the next Steve Smith that can take the test records and will be a 40+ avg LOI player.

Rahul can be the next Rohit in LOIs with 45+ avg in LOIs and a Cook in tests with 45+ avg at a better SR.
 
Ab Fan said:
At this point, Markram is several leagues ahead of Babar in tests.

In odis, Babar is well ahead thanks to bashing SL and WI otherwise an avg of 38@SR 82 don't speak much.

In T20s, Babar is good but not someone whom you would like to go with because he can't score fast and win you matches.

Overall, for future potential, my bet will be the South African over a Pakistani.
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Markram has only done well at home. Has done nothing to prove himself abroad so saying he is miles ahead of Babar is an overstatement because Babar actually has a few innings of note in England, New Zealand and West Indies.Not saying Babar is better in tests but neither is Markram.
 
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